YPG does not equal wins
by UTexan on Dec 12, 2009 1:54 PM CST
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PrintWhile being a statistically good team we seem to not win when the wins are needed. You would think the team with the 3rd highest YPG in the NFL would be able to put some points on the board. But, we seem to have issues with penalties, stupid mistakes and seemingly giving up when we are put on the line.
This to me seems to all come back around to overall team leadership. And that leadership comes from the top. So somewhere between Jerry Jones and Tony Romo there is a major disconnect. This disconnect also seems to make those in a position of leadership blind to the fact of what is going wrong. Otherwise they would have already been able to fix the issue this late in the season. Unless, we have a case of gross negligence, or a lack of overall will, or pure stupidity possibly plays a factor in why the issues are not being corrected.
The Dallas Cowboys are not the only team with this issue at the moment. The Patriots are the second highest YPG offense in the NFL right now and they are doing very poorly. If someone can let me know where the disconnect for both of these teams is happening I would appreciate it.
Also, on a side note the Saints are the most high powered offense in the NFL. (DUH)
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YPG comes down to playcalling, execution, and game time situations. What crack are you smoking? Sorry but all your posts are awful. What does ypg have to do with jerry jones and tony romo? from the title i actually thought you were finally gonna make a good point but i guess not.
Sorry to be such an ass but i dont like having the fanposts spammed up with this garbage, is there a way to ignore user posts?
by DavidLaFleur on Dec 12, 2009 2:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Lafleur
Who made you the all knowing Football God? I am sorry if my posts don’t meet your standards but I thought t was interesting that we have such a high powered offense but are not turning those in to points at the right time.
If you can’t tell what the whole deal has to deal with the people between Jerry Jones and Tony Romo then I really have to believe that you are a bigger imbecile than I first thought.
You should also probably look up what the meaning of spam is as well. Spam is primarily a commercial message. And as far as I can tell I don’t represent any corporate entity.
But hey thanks for your witty and informative banter. I feel richer for having corresponded with you…
Correction
SPAM stands for:
Stupid
Pointless
Annoying
Messages
And they can be of any kind, be it primarily a commercial or just comments on a webpage.
BTW, I don’t think that your comments and posts are SPAM, you’re just posting too much, you should try to add your ideas in other posts that are related and people will read them.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Chandus
I was just going off the dictionary definition. But once again nice informative post.. Thank you for your informative post and I look forward to conversingwith yu more
Continuing
One example of what I’m saying.
Some time ago, Rafael wrote an article about how Garrett’s Offense lives and dies going for the big play… And that’s an absolute truth, if the Offense can’t get those big plays, they have problems…
And with big plays come great YPG numbers and it isn’t really a good indicator of actual performance, those numbers will be good in victories and bad in defeats and with a team that stands 8-4 it’s rather obvious that they’ve had much more good than bad.
This kind of post would have been a nice comment in that post and your thoughts would be appreciated for what they’re, football talk, unfortunately you weren’t around when Rafael wrote that piece, but you will get chances of making good comments.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
has absolutely nothing to do with leadership
and has everything to do with execution, it’s really as simple as that.
In Romo we Trust
How can you say
they are not executing when they have the 3rd highest YPG in the NFL?
Or are they executing most of the time and then just falling apart when it matters? Which if that is the case then it goes straight back to leadership…
not true
not executing within the red zone or anywhere else has nothing to do with leadership, it’s all about executing or not executing it.
I know a lot of fans like to blame it on a lack of leadership but thats simply not true.
In Romo we Trust
+1
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 12, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
But
Doesnt play calling come into play at all? And the guys that call our plays are on the sideline and they are the coaches (leadership).
I do agree that we are not executing when needed but I just find it so hard to believe that the guys are fighting hard enough to be so high powered and then they shut down that fight in the redzone? Maybe it needs to be mixed up a bit more so the offense can actually have a chance in the redzone.
there has been nothing wrong with our play calling
that 2nd TD to RW against the GMen was a brilliant call by Garrett
In Romo we Trust
+1
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 12, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
I think saying Garret always calls brillant games might be giving the guy a little to much credit he has his moments but if he was a truly great(brillant) play caller he would utilize our backs 50x better there’s no excuse to only give Felix and tashard 6 carries between them.
by regaberto on Dec 12, 2009 11:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I dont actually see where anyone said "brilliant"
except you. Terry accurately stated that Garrett calls good games.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 13, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
Hey Aussie
Had you actually "read"the post you would have seen where terry says that he made a “brilliant” call. It was under the post dated Dec. 12 at 7:32pm. But I know you just want to criticize without understanding why so I will forgive you this one.
And
My actual statement was one brilliant TD (play called) does not make a brilliant (game) called….
I dont really understand why you keep trying to argue with me...
but as Regaberto said, he combined two statements. So I was correct, no-one said that Garrett called brilliant games. SO perhaps you best improve your comprehension.
And on your last point, I completely agree.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 13, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
What you said
is that you dont see where anyone said “brilliant” other than me. Exact words! You didnt say anything about “games” . You need to work on pretty much everything….
When your running game is based of the draw play…well its either because the OC doesn’t believe the linemen can runblock well or they simply don’t runblock well. I think we are capable of being a power running team but it seems Garrett is just too obsessed with the pass and looking cute to ever practice some hard nose running down the opponents throat football. IMO
I totally agree
with what you are saying. I think we have been throwing birdshot at a bulldozer and its just not working. I honestly can not see a game that we have played so far that we should have lost.
That is why I am so critical right now. For some reason I really truly see greatness in this team. And it is difficult for me to watch it being misused. I could totally be wrong but, after watching football my whole life and 3 years of playing I think these guys got what it takes and I am afraid our leadership is totally lacking. By leadership I mean coaching.
we're not capable of being a power running team
because our OL, despite their huge size, aren’t good at run blocking. Garrett isn’t obsessed with the passing game, he passes a lot because he has a great qb and an OL that doesn’t run block well.
In Romo we Trust
True, which is why their best running plays come...
… When one or two Olineman are in the move, meaning that the RBs need to give the OLineman time to reach their respective positions, which in the end leads to all those running plays from the shotgun (draws, delays, etc.).
They just aren’t a good run blocking unit when they’re supposed to block head on, actually, they pretty much suck at it…
You only need to count the number of times the RBs (every RB) are getting hit right before the LOS in an every game fashion to realize this… If a RB is touched behind the LOS, it’s because someone messed up along the line, it’s that simple.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I actually believe the opposite is true.
The Cowboys are actually a good running team which is why you see DCs selling out to stop the run against us. The Giants, Redskin, and Denver games are primary examples. In all of those games the defenses played eight men in the box and sometimes 9. If safeties are blitzing the gaps where the run is going you will get a negative play. You can’t expect an interior lineman to block both a DT AND the blitzer since his job is to move his defender out of the way.
The only game where the O-line had a really bad game was Green Bay. Garret was right in his play calls against the Giants (in particular) and figured out short passes would work against Washington. The question that begs to be asked is if the O-line is so bad why are teams blitzing to stop the running game? The better you run the more men you will see in the box. It’s really that simple.
i see what you’re sayin’ but i think it comes down to the fact that our team is a bunch of pretenders. sure we put up good running stats but when it comes down to it our guys cant beat their guys when they have to. if we truely were a good running team we would still find some success in those situations but we seem to get completely shut down and at the same time don’t really seem to take advantage in passing the ball either.
by DavidLaFleur on Dec 13, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions
your absolutely right Jevans, but..
I think there is things our offense can do against 8 man fronts that we are not doing in as much as mixing with the passing game. The Giants game was a perfect example. But first, i would like to hear what you have to say. I want to hear your opinion on what the Cowboys could have done on offense that they could have mixed better with the passing game against the Giants 8 man front. Alot of people think that there is nothing we could have done but just drop back.
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Dec 13, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
I also want to hear Your opinion Chandus
Terry has already said in other fanposts that he is very comfortable and confident that the Cowboys can beat the Giants in a game where Romo drops back the majority of the time.
I have always said it’s Tashard, the quintessential all-purpose back. If we establish him as our featured back, our pass offense is unstoppable. I have also stated my belief that MB3 and Felix are more situational RB’s, and should not be getting the majority of carries.
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Dec 13, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
DCs sell out to stop the run because:
a) They know that all of our RBs have a good set of eyes and can find holes to make big plays.
b) They know that our OLineman have problems with speed and quickness and LBs and DBs have those in spades.
and
c) They know that without big plays from the run, they aren’t consistent running team (which means that they can’t get 3 or 4 yards per carry in a consistent basis).
That’s the gist of my opinion and it’s based on looking at the OLine in the past few years… For example, Eli Manning was awful for most of the game, but a couple of big plays made his numbers look passable and almost good. That’s the Cowboys running game. They rely too much on the big play because they aren’t consistent.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Maybe your right Chandus
Maybe the o-line isn’t good at run blocking.
It’s not that I agree, or disagree.
What I do know, is we don’t see good run plays called, and we don’t see enough run plays called. We also don’t see the correct RB used for the correct situation ( I believe).
There is just not enough info to make a determination on whether the O-line is bad at run blocking or good. Garrett doesn’t allow that with his philosiphy.
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Dec 13, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Well said LaFleur
Maybe Terry and Aussie will start to understand what I’ve been debating with them for awhile if more people like you start writing pertinent important issues about the offense that need to be said. I think Aussie is starting to see the wisdom of what alot of people have been saying about Garrett- It’s not so much that people (including myself) are stating disbelief that his passing strategies do not work. They do.
The problem is you can’t go into any game and expect passing in and of itself to be the challenge with this offense. This offense can pass the ball. This offense with Garrett has always been challenged to run the ball effectively against the better defenses. Whether it’s that Garrett isn’t capable, or won’t, or just doesn’t use it enough matters little. the fact is it isn’t there with Barber and Felix. I’m not certain Felix himself is gonna be good enough. I hope it is, if that’s what Garrett’s gonna try. It would be the biggest mistake of the year if Garrett drops back and passes alot against the Chargers. Even if they’re secondary isn’t good (which they are), we have to eat the clock on offense to win.
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Dec 13, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
This guy doesn’t make any points in any if his posts that don’t suck.
Squish.
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