What I want in a Head Coach
by HutHut on Dec 16, 2009 4:01 PM CST
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The number one trait I want in my head coach is a complete and utter hatred of losing.
I want my HC to make everyone's life so miserable after a loss that the players will do everything they can to avoid one. I recall Ken Norton Jr. discussing Jimmy Johnson's demeanor after a loss. He said the man was almost insufferable. The players hated it... but that was the point.
I believe our current coach doesn't like losing, but I don't think he hates it either. After the loss to the Giants he seemed to think all was well because we still had a winning record. Memo to Wade: Lots of teams with winning records don't make the playoffs.
I don't know who our next HC will be, but I sure hope he hates the eff outta losing.
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Nick Eatman has a gut feeling
That we could see Jimmy Johnson return to coach the Cowboys. I know it seems way out there but that would be interesting to say the least if that could be a real possibility. Eatman said he had no inside information and that if you asked him 4 months ago, he would have said no way. But now he wouldnt be surprised to see it happen.
I read Boys will be Boys and if the accounts are even partially accurate in there. Jimmy fits your bill exactly.
by Impatient on Dec 16, 2009 4:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That would really surprise me
I read an article about Jimmy saying how he had turned his life around because when he was coaching, he neglected his family and was totally obsessed.
He can’t be hurting for money so unless he wants to come back and win so he can have the right to tell Jerry “I told you so” for the rest of their lives, that seems like the longest of long shots.
by Billito on Dec 16, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there is absolutely no way I see that happening
I like Nick and think he is one of the better beat writers covering the Cowboys, but he is way off base here. Jimmy has it made in the shade with his FOX gig, I’d be beyond shocked if he came back to coaching.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 16, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So would I
But it was one of the most interesting theories I had heard lately.
by Impatient on Dec 16, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it'll happen either
But with the right coordinators, Jimmie could be VERY intriguing.
by tyhall on Dec 16, 2009 5:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that was on Monday's Lunch Break, it was like a you had to be there moment because if you did not hear it you
cannot explain the situation via 3rd person account. Nick made it an appealing idea because it is the ultimate challenge for any new coach to come in and take this team to the super bowl. Jimmy could be talked into the situation because it would be JJ admitting that he needs Jimmy and that his way has failed. JJ would have to be very desperate and be very convincing, but it would be an amazing story if it did happen. But I agree with a lot of guys here the chances are pretty low.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Dec 16, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You put my thoughts perfectly into words
Thanks for clarifying the situation.
by Impatient on Dec 16, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did he say he had a source saying that either Jimmy and/or Jerry had interest, or was it pure speculation?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Dec 16, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Wade hates losing
it’s just that his personality doesn’t show it as well as coaches who are more emotional. Same thing with Romo.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 16, 2009 4:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
so. . .
Does he show his “hatred of losing” to his players, in private? Because that’s all that matters, Terry.
by dfan77 on Dec 17, 2009 6:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Wade acts much differently towards his players privately
and actually there have been several players on record as saying so. Fans only see coaches on the sidelines and at PCs, I’m sure they show a different side behind closed doors.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 17, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What’s galling about our current coach is after the last two hard-to-take losses Wade has been cracking jokes with the media. Today he signed off by whistling a tune to the amusement of some of the local reporters. Wade sickens me.
For the love of the Star I give my undying devotion.
by FlexDefense on Dec 16, 2009 6:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The coach you're thinking of...
Is Gruden. Have you seen him after losses? Scariest MF you’ll ever see. And with the talent this team has, I don’t think he would accept losing.
by Alexcomestokill on Dec 16, 2009 7:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Negative Ghost Rider
Gruden can stay on MNF as far as I’m concerned. I dont want him or the six QBs he will sign to give Romo pressure.
I dont hate Gruden.
Best line ever….
“There’s 5 flag on the field. One more and you have an amusement park” – Jon Gruden
by Impatient on Dec 16, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind Gruden
. . .much better upgrade from Gailey, Wade, Campo, et. al., don’t you think?
And do you REALLY think JJ would let him sign up a bunch of QBs to challenge Romo?
Really?
by dfan77 on Dec 17, 2009 6:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gruden wouldn't do that since he'd already have a franchise qb
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Dec 17, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well the rumor going around now is
the possibility of Gruden going to Wash. to be with Bruce Allen. Don’t know if there’s any truth to it, but I don’t think he will be coming to Dallas
by texstar on Dec 17, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gruden
Is fine as a head coach but keep that guy away from GM responsibilities. He is a terrible judge of talent. Not that the Joneses are any better.
by Taoboy on Dec 17, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not true
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 18, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not true
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 18, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True
He inherited a Tampa team put together by Dungy and won a superbowl. It was all downhill from there.
by Taoboy on Dec 18, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NO, not true that the Jones' are terrible judges of talent
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 18, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
jimmy would obviously be my choice but i do not see it happening
Gruden would be my second…
by scandrick32 on Dec 16, 2009 8:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I fear the difference between Jimmy Johnson circa 1992 and 2010
would be the like difference between Elvis 1956 and 1977…not pretty, and kind of sad.
That said, I’d love to see it.
by DavidH22 on Dec 16, 2009 9:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The answer is yes
With 5 pounds of undigested meat in his colon. 5 pounds of bacon, peanut butter, and bananas will do that to you.
by Alexcomestokill on Dec 16, 2009 10:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Gruden is a caricature.
He always struck me as someone putting on a show. Players see through that quickly.
Jimmy today doesn’t have the hunger. I don’t think Holmgren has much fire left either.
Perhaps Cowher, but I can’t see him putting up with Jerry.
In the end, Jerry will have to go before a true HC can be hired.
by HutHut on Dec 17, 2009 7:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Old Coaches
Don’t have the energy of the young guys. If you’re hiring, look for a young guy. McDaniel, Harbaugh, Tomlin, Whisenhunt, Payton. The list goes on and on. But whoever you hire has to have cut his teeth as a Coordinator and done well. I think Garrett is pretty good considering how poor his Offensive Line is. Bigg Davis is poor in space, Flozell can’t move, Kosier loses weight during the season and therefore strength and Gurode isn’t bright enough to be a center, it seems. I wouldn’t mind putting Garrett in there as opposed to someone like Cowher who took TEN YEARS to win a Super Bowl. Garrett is already in the family. Give him a good LT who can move and run block and have Brewster come in at LG next year the offense might really take off.
by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Dec 17, 2009 10:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Garrett might be really interesting…
…if he’s able to bring in BOTH a new OC and DC. A few years ago his idea was to bring in Cam Cameron as the OC and Dom Capers as the DC had he been made the HC. That’s pretty impressive. This indicates to me that Garrett is not looking to call the offense and would rather oversee things as a true head man. He might do very well in this role.
This whole three head coaches affair they have now is a joke and it might be time promote Garrett and enrich the assistants staff.
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
by gee-roj on Dec 17, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This might sound crazy...
but I just want a coach that wins. Not just regular season, not just playoffs, but Superbowls. Not saying every year, just simply a winner. Like my football coach told us in HS: “Second place is the first loser”. We need more hardware, or at least start some winning playoff runs and soon.
by Mac_24 on Dec 17, 2009 12:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely no way Jimmy returns
I don’t understand why people keep bringing this up.
Would you, COULD you come back after accomplishing everything you could want in your chosen career, being practically universally respected and admired by your peers, making millions of dollars, aging past your prime anyway, and then spending the last 10 years playing and relaxing in your backyard which happens to look exactly like a Caribbean postcard?
No way. He has too good of a life now and has already accomplished too much to ever return to the 24 / 7 / 365 job that head coaching an NFL team is.
He has gone on record numerous times in recent years about how he grew to hate the person he had to be in order to get the best out of his teams. He despised being the bad guy and the hard case and the coach that could never be pleased, but he knew anything less would not give him the results he wanted.
He’s become a different person since those days. He’s enjoying life, enjoying family, enjoying scuba diving and fishing daily, and enjoying picking up a huge paycheck for working about 20 weekends a year at the FOX studios.
And there is absolutely no guarantee he would succeed the second time around in Dallas.
by Behe on Dec 17, 2009 1:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Garrett has a better chance
of becoming the next head coach. I think Jerry would love to be seen as the genius who recognized and developed the next Sean Payton.
Jerry is a shrewd businessman and he’s got a significant investment in Garrett. He hand picked him (BEFORE the head coach!). Jerry paid him BIG money to keep him here. The Jerrys of the world don’t just flush their big investment down the drain because some fans don’t like the play calling on 4th-and-1.
You think Garrett isn’t telling Jerry in private that this offensive line is not that great? You think he can’t go into great detail about the deficiencies that he’s working around that Rafael has detailed here so well?
Garrett is the next head coach with a more seasoned defensive coordinator brought in to take over for Wade. And Wade won’t even be fired. He just won’t be renewed.
by Behe on Dec 17, 2009 1:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Garrett as HC
Garrett Moss the Inside Linebackers Coach from the Pack as the new Defensive Coordinator. Bring some guy like Cam Cameron in as Asst. Head Coach/ Offensive Coordinator. Done and done.
by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Dec 17, 2009 2:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Garrett?
Really? Did you guys watch the Chargers game?
by Taoboy on Dec 17, 2009 8:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
how about rivera?
thats a guy I take a look at…Gruden would be my choice but i do not see him leaving the booth just yet
by scandrick32 on Dec 17, 2009 11:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not advocating Garrett
I’m just trying to figure out what Jerry is thinking and how the decision looks from his perspective rather than go on and on about who I think it should be.
My opinion doesn’t matter. But looking at it from Jerry’s perspective it may make much more sense to promote from within while not making wholesale changes to the organization.
by Behe on Dec 18, 2009 1:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
Not sure it makes sense to promote from within when your coaching has been terrible. It’s either the players or the coaching— and who is responsible for the players? Jerry and Stephen Jones. So, ask yourself, is Jerry more likely to conclude that he has done a lousy job of evaluating talent and building the roster, or is he more likely to conclude that his coaching staff needs to be fired and replaced?
by Taoboy on Dec 18, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Think about it for a minute though
Jerry hired him BEFORE Wade. He has invested a lot in him and must think he sees something. I’m far from the Garret bandwagon but it won’t surprise me when he takes over for Wade.
by Mac_24 on Dec 18, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the key
Jerry hired Garrett first. Then he was rewarded with Garrett’s high-powered offense of 2007. Then he paid him big money to stay. I don’t think his opinion of Garrett has changed one bit.
Obviously, the offense is not perfect (GB, Wash, SD), but I think Jerry feels it’s good enough to win a championship, IF they had a reliable defense. But the defense remains suspect: lack of consistent QB pressure/sacks, very few takeaways, critical failures when the game is in the balance, etc….
by Behe on Dec 18, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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