Interesting FOX Pregame-Jay Glazer note.

by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 20, 2009 11:28 AM CST

During the Jay Glazer update (really the only reason to bother with the show), he mentioned that the Redskins were already putting the peices in place to make a run at Mike Shanahan after the season. Nothing particularly surprising about that (never mind that the Washington players are killing themselves trying to save Zorn's job, something that Dan Snyder clearly doesn't comprehend).

I was equally unsurprised to hear that Mike has his eye on the Dallas job, but what did catch me off guard was Glazer's almost offhand comment that Dallas didn't have much interest in him. Does anybody know why, or is Jay just guessing? I'm one of the rapidly-dwindling Wade supporters, but Shanahan is on the short list of guys, along with Dungy and Cowher, that I'd fire him to get in here.

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Shanahan

For whatever reason I’ve never been a big Shanahan fan. Doesn’t Denver pretty much have the same team, player wise, this year as last year (sans Cutler)?

by Kyle Mc on Dec 20, 2009 11:39 AM CST reply actions

Obscene injury situation last season, if I recall correctly.

I think if you put two of my best seasons together it wouldn't come up with the numbers he's going to have at the end of the season. -Troy Aikman on Tony Romo

by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 20, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions

two things

1) allegedly (and i am quoting another poster here) JJ told babe last night that if wade goes redball gets the job

2) shanahan was a good coach / coordinator but made awful personnel decisions (eg maurice clarrett) i think he and jerry would be a bad mix. need a guy who could publicly coach the team and privately be GM (like parcells)

by 325424 on Dec 20, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions

If you're going to take off points for Clarett...

How many do you add for Elvis Dumervil and Brandon Marshall, both of whom were fourth rounders, or the slew of late round running backs not named Maurice Clarrett who ran for big numbers under Shanahan?

I think if you put two of my best seasons together it wouldn't come up with the numbers he's going to have at the end of the season. -Troy Aikman on Tony Romo

by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 21, 2009 2:50 AM CST up reply actions

no

McDaniels gutted that defense. Totally remade it.

by foyesboys on Dec 20, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions

Before we get all weepy over the genius of Josh McDaniels...

Let’s keep in mind that since the 6-0 start, the Broncos are 2-6, with their only wins coming over KC and the Giants when they were in their own slump.

People around here would be slitting their wrists and demanding Wade’s head on a plate if Dallas had had a turn like that.

I think if you put two of my best seasons together it wouldn't come up with the numbers he's going to have at the end of the season. -Troy Aikman on Tony Romo

by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 21, 2009 2:52 AM CST up reply actions

Different situation though

The Eagles lost to the Saints (who we beat), they lost to the Raiders (who we beat) and they lost to us (who we are).

by aussie_cowboy on Dec 21, 2009 3:34 AM CST up reply actions

In what way?

I think if you put two of my best seasons together it wouldn't come up with the numbers he's going to have at the end of the season. -Troy Aikman on Tony Romo

by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 21, 2009 3:50 AM CST up reply actions

Different expectations

we are a better team than Denver

The Eagles lost to the Saints (who we beat), they lost to the Raiders (who we beat) and they lost to us (who we are).

by aussie_cowboy on Dec 21, 2009 3:53 AM CST up reply actions

They were 8-4 after 12 games last year, before they collapsed down the stretch.

They were never a bad team, just a thin and beat up one.

I think if you put two of my best seasons together it wouldn't come up with the numbers he's going to have at the end of the season. -Troy Aikman on Tony Romo

by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 21, 2009 7:41 AM CST up reply actions

as much as we hate Dawkins

he has made a big difference for them

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by MayurP on Dec 20, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions

Mike Nolan

… has been a bigger difference in Denver this year than McDaniels replacing Shanahan as the HC and offensive mind.

Cowboy Up!

by CowboyCrazy on Dec 20, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions

Glazer is one of the best info guys out there

Now that Adam Schefter has joined the Borg, he may be THE best info guy out there. I trust his info.

by Rafael Vela on Dec 20, 2009 11:43 AM CST reply actions

I agree, which is why I was surprised to hear it.

I think if you put two of my best seasons together it wouldn't come up with the numbers he's going to have at the end of the season. -Troy Aikman on Tony Romo

by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 20, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions

Agree with that

Glazer seems to have more reliable sources than anyone. He’s almost always correct and almost always on top of breaking news.

Drago says, "We must break you!"

by APerfectStar on Dec 20, 2009 11:04 PM CST up reply actions

If we keep winning, we're not getting a new HC

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 20, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions

Saw that myself and wondered.

Never been a huge Shanahan fan.

by Chris in Va on Dec 20, 2009 1:12 PM CST reply actions

Shanahan wants a personnel guy that he likes in place if he takes a HC job

Did you notice who the Skins hired in their front office?

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Dec 20, 2009 1:15 PM CST reply actions

Garrett is going to be the next HC thats why....

Shanahan runs the WC style of offense also and that’s a problem to begin with.

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 20, 2009 1:46 PM CST reply actions

Shanahan is not the answer

neither is Cowher or Holmgren. The coaches that have been doing better recently are the smart young coaches, like Tomlin, Caldwell, McDaniels even, also Garrett could be one as well.

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Dec 20, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions

Tomlin and Caldwell took over recent Super Bowl champions with veteran, franchise QBs already in place.

Then again, once upon a time, so did Shanahan. Denver hadn’t won a SB when he arrived, but Elway had already led them to three.

Then again again, Shanahan got a Jake Plummer-led team within one win of the Super Bowl. Let’s see Mike Tomlin do that.

I recognize that Shanahan wouldn’t be a perfect fit, and I’m not even really advocating for him, I just thought it was strange that Dallas wouldn’t have any interest in him. 14 years with Denver, and only 2 losing seasons speaks for itself.

I think if you put two of my best seasons together it wouldn't come up with the numbers he's going to have at the end of the season. -Troy Aikman on Tony Romo

by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 21, 2009 3:00 AM CST up reply actions

Poor special teams and Defense

Shanahan teams are never known for having good defenses or good special teams. That’s probably why Jerry isn’t interested. Cowher won one Super Bowl in over ten years. i don’t think Cowboys fans would be happy about that. As much as Cowboy fans complain about how laid back Wade is, they are going to embrace Dungy? Most of you feel he should have won more Super Bowls with Peyton. If anyone, i would seriously look at Joe DeCamillis. He seems to have the respect of the team. And Jerry.

by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Dec 20, 2009 2:53 PM CST reply actions

love the screen name

by elharpo on Dec 20, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions

I'd have been pretty happy with a Super Bowl win sometime in the last decade.

And every single Cowboys fan ever born agrees with me.

I think if you put two of my best seasons together it wouldn't come up with the numbers he's going to have at the end of the season. -Troy Aikman on Tony Romo

by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 21, 2009 3:01 AM CST up reply actions

Bring Dungy...

"What the hell is going on out there?" - Vince Lombardi.

by Nisri on Dec 20, 2009 4:09 PM CST reply actions

I definitely don't want Shanahan.

For that matter I don’t want Cowher or Dungy either. Everyone keeps saying that we should be more like the Steelers, but to do that, we definitely have to avoid hiring a retread head coach and instead find a young talented coach that can stay here for a long time. In my opinion, it is likely that this guy will be Garrett considering his offense has produced and him and Tony seemingly work together well.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Dec 20, 2009 4:32 PM CST reply actions

I just don't think Garret would be a good HC.

He just doesn’t seem to have authority or command of the players.

"What the hell is going on out there?" - Vince Lombardi.

by Nisri on Dec 20, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions

I am curious as to what you base that opinion off?

I am not saying you are wrong, but I am curious as to what leads you to draw that conclusion.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Dec 20, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions

I definitely think he's wrong

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 20, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions

i want a coach who adapts

jg is hit and miss with this… i wouldn’t be upset if he was head coach next year, but i wouldn’t be thrilled either… i’d still root for him tho

by CowboysFan4Life on Dec 20, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions

I think he adapts very well

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 20, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions

Well I personally think he is wrong as well

but I wanted to know what he was basing his opinion off before giving mine.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Dec 20, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions

I dont want one of these past it HCs

such as Shanahan, Gruden or Cowher. I want a Garrett, or the next big thing. That would be a wiser hire IMO to look for an up and comming assistant.

The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!

by aussie_cowboy on Dec 20, 2009 5:32 PM CST reply actions

i would not mind shanahan

we have a great qb and some good wr’s… and some great running backs…. now, since we need to rebuild the o line, might as well let shanahan do it… he’s always picked greats linemen for a great running game… however, i don’t know if they are good at pass blocking, but with a good running game, less presssure will come.. the more i think shanahan, the more i drool of huge holes for felix marion and tchoice

by CowboysFan4Life on Dec 20, 2009 6:35 PM CST reply actions

Shanahan is a Zone blocking guy

Can you imagine Bigg and Gurode trying to handle zone blocking?

It would be either a jailbreak or a penalty on every play.

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Dec 21, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions

Frankly, it's about time to start rebuilding the line anyway.

Flozell is clearly losing the physical ability that makes up for his mental mistakes, so LT is already due for a replacement. None of the other guys are getting any younger either. It would be a long term process, the same way going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defense was.

I think if you put two of my best seasons together it wouldn't come up with the numbers he's going to have at the end of the season. -Troy Aikman on Tony Romo

by Big D Bam Bam on Dec 21, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions

I'd say Garrett is the next Dallas HC after Wade leaves

Jerry has called in favors, pulled strings, probably made some back room deal to keep Garrett here as OC, and he loves the guy. Plus you lose Garrett, you also lose his brother

Just my opinion from watching outside the bubble.

Drago says, "We must break you!"

by APerfectStar on Dec 20, 2009 11:12 PM CST reply actions