FISH on FOOTBALL Cowboys Top Ten Takes: Dallas Not Waiting To Exhale
FISH on FOOTBALL presents a Cowboys-Saints Top Ten Takes, complete with some clarification over the beaten-to-within-an-inch-of-its-life cliché "winning ugly'' ... because there was nothing ugly about Dallas' ballsy 24-17 victory at New Orleans:
1. In the last few weeks, I've had a few people within the Cowboys family swear to me that while DeMarcus Ware is a superstar, while Jay Ratliff has blossomed from "over-achiever'' to simply "high achiever,'' while Mike Jenkins is developing into a difference-maker and while new/old vet Keith Brooking is about as good as he ever was in Atlanta, there is nobody on the Dallas defense who is outperforming Anthony Spencer.
After what happened Saturday in New Orleans, I'm inclined to believe those people within the Cowboys family.
Spencer has spent most of the year being an Almost Standout. He's almost had interceptions and sacks and SportsCenter highlights. But against the Saints, Spencer went from Almost to Most (as in, Most Valuable) as he had two sacks (which would've been three if not for an away-from-Spencer penalty), plus three hurries and a fumble recovery.
You know what Spencer looked like coming off the edge all night against the befuddled and overmatched Saints? He looked like a mirror image of Ware, who was doing the same thing on the other edge.

2. Speaking of Ware, is he a stud or what? He's old-school, this kid. His pocket is full and his neck is nearly broken and he rubs some dirt on it to record two sacks and force two fumbles, one of those Combo Platters being delivered on the Cowboys' final defensive play, when Ware put a crushing lid on Drew Brees and the Saints.
There are a couple of lessons to be learned here. One is about the Saints in general. Big-time front-line heat on Brees is a disruption and it is do-able. I bet Brees was flushed from the pocket (or worse) in some fashion on almost half of New Orleans' pass-play calls.
Before anybody crowns the Saints as NFC titlists, someone might want to notice that among the teams that stand in their path might be not only Dallas (last year's NFL sack champions) and Minnesota ("The Outlaws'' racking up numbers reminiscent of "The Purple People Eaters'' before them).
(Meanwhile, in the same weekend, both the Saints and the Vikings displayed some vulnerabilities, eh?)
And the other lesson: This is how you write yourself a chapter in Cowboys Mythology: One week, you're frozen on the ground with doctors unscrewing your facemask. ... and six days later, you are screwing Drew Brees into the floor.
3. Nick Folk just got un-friended on Facebook. No, not just by some fans. By the entire Facebook company.
4. Seriously, while I always say that a team had better have a superior replacement in mind when it dumps an employer (kicker, head coach, whomever), Dallas cannot do worse here. Folk not only missed a clutch FG chance from 23 (the late one that would've put Dallas up 10 points and allowed us all to retain our fingernail tips), but one of his extra points looked wobbly. ... and did you catch the NFL Network's tape of his pregame warm-ups?
Nick's kicks were so off that it looked like he was aiming at the other goalpost. It was one of the most embarrassing pieces of television I've ever seen, so much so that for a minute there I thought Bob Papa and Matt Millen were going to be replaced by hosts Tom Bergeron and Bob Saget.
So. ...
Here's a list of The Usual Suspects (with what I think is the latest on each):
*Steven Hauschka, recently dumped by Baltimore in favor of old Cowboys friend Billy Cundiff
*Brandon Coutu (a Seahawks camp cut)
*Shane Andrus (a member of the Colts and Bucs this year)
*Sam Swank (cups o' coffee with Philly and Cincy in recent years)
*Nick Novak (a former Redskin)
*Dave Raymer (another former Redskin)
*Chris Boniol. OK, I'm kidding. Chris is long-retired. But I'm in contact with him quite a bit, he lives, teaches and coaches in the North Texas area, he's in shape. ... and even Chris Boniol wouldn't miss extra-point-length kicks.
*And ... the winner should be ... Jason Elam.
He was almost as bad with the Falcons this year as Folk's been with Dallas. But you know what? I'd rather miss kicks with one of the most pedigreed kickers in NFL history - and be able to say I tried to ride a great old horse - then continue to try to get mileage out of unproven donkeys.
Nevertheless, there is a report saying Dallas isn't interested in Elam, but might be interested in Shaun Suisham, an old Cowboy discovery recently with Washington.
Will Suisham or another guy come in here and miss a field goal? Maybe. But it's time to let somebody else miss.
5. Tony Romo was positively Steve Youngesque here, spinning out of trouble, running only when necessary, finding targets while on the run, and supplementing super numbers (312 passing yards, no turnovers and a 104 QB Rating) with the best stat of all, a crunch-time victory.
We discussed December Denial in this space last week, and the Cowboys leaders themselves acknowledge it all. After the game, Jerry Jones touched on it ("They showed that they can win a game in December,'' he said, laughing) and Romo let himself smile through questions regarding December.
But shouldn't somebody also note that in the last three winter-month games, while the Cowboys are now 1-2 ... Romo is six TDs up and zero TOs down? And all against Giants/Chargers/Saints?
Romo is passing the December test.
6. Want less of Roy Williams and more of ... anybody? I think if you back and chart plays, you are going to see that No. 11 took an awful lot of "rest breaks'' while Patrick Crayton and even Kevin Ogletree and (double on the "even'') Sam Hurd found themselves "rotating in.''
7. I like Dallas at Washington. Don't you?
The Redskins are interviewing coaches while they presently employ one, accepting resignations from front-office personnel and down to playing Home Depot refugees at some skill positions. The Cowboys beat Washington 7-6 earlier this year, of course, and figure to handle their rivals with greater ease this time around ... and if they do, Dallas is in control of its fate.
"We still can't exhale,'' Jason Witten says. "We can't relax now."
That sounds like the words of somebody who thinks his team is ready to not only accept the pressure, but to relish it.
I like them to do just that ... at least against the Redskins. Don't you?
8. As the Saints were leaving the field, New Orleans fans appreciative of the fact that the losing team had previously won a bunch of games gave their fellas a standing ovation.
Awwwww! Isn't that cute?
To me, it felt like parents encouraging their baby as he takes his first steps. ... and then tumbles to the living-room carpet. Maybe I'm being a Grinch here, but the Superdome audience seemed awfully easy to please.
Easier-to-please than you are, for certain.
9. Let "The Great BTB Debate'' continue (because I think we're the only ones who do this). ... but I think the run-vs.-pass arguments ("Which should the Cowboys do more of?'' ... "Which is the Cowboys better at?'' ... "Which really determines Cowboys wins and losses?'') have devolved toward the bizarre.
Romo was brilliant. But meanwhile, the Cowboys rushed for 145 yards and did so in a way that didn't allow New Orleans' offense to get back on the field. (A season-high 36 runs helped Dallas get up and stay up.) Felix ran hard through holes and was allowed 14 carries. Marion Barber danced with what brung him to the NFL, hammering defenders who dared stand in his way. Tashard Choice and the Wildcat/Razorback got a sniff. ... and in the end, Dallas was a better passing team than New Orleans was AND was a better running team than New Orleans was.
Be that team two more times ... and the team that nobody will want to play in Round 1 of the NFL Playoffs will be the Dallas Cowboys.
10. My friends at ESPN are terming the 24-17 victory at the Superdome an example of "winning ugly.''
Sorry, guys. Not even close.
This was Wade Phillips overseeing a dismantling of an undefeated team in their house before a juiced-up crowd in a hungry town before a national-TV audience. The QB threw for 300-plus. The top receiver (Miles Austin, whom Jerry might want to go ahead and contract-up) was un-coverable. They pounded the Saints into submission with 145 rushing yards. They racked up sacks upfront and played like ballhawks in coverage. A 21-point lead was forged in a dominating fashion over the course of three quarters and then a 10-point lead to close was but a foot away. In the end, the Saints were dealing is desperation and lost a game by seven when they were favored by the same number.
That's not "winning ugly.'' That's just "winning.''
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Great post.
Love these articles from Mike.
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i agree with everything except
8.
i heard countless times it was the loudest game in years, if not ever.
when was the last time cowboys lost and still received as much support from the fans?
it would be pretty sweet have a stadium that brings the house down instead of have everyone just mindlessly stare at a 3d screen going ooooo and ahhhh. but seems like the cowboys actually turned that too a positive in new orleans so thats sweet as well.
Yeah, loudest home environment since Krakatoa
and how many false starts did Dallas have?
0
when its that loud players are more likely to just watch the ball rather than try and listen to the cadence.
cowboys did turn this to a positive somehow. you can hear a pin drop at texas stadium and flozell false stars 3+ times.
nevertheless, good stadium and good fans, but a better victory.
In Flo's defense...
the offense silenced that crowd pretty dang quick so that even Flo could hear his own thoughts…
I have a question for Rafael
In regards to our “back ups”…..
1. Phillips vs Bennet: Which one is a better blocker or receiver? My perception is that we were not getting what we were expecting fro Bennet and then we saw Philips make a great play on the 4th qtr of the boggest game of the season…
2. Ogletree and Hurd vs Roy Williams: How many more balls does Roy Williams have to drop before we start using the other two guys. Miles Austin vs Roy Williams I think is no longer a competittion anymore and then I see Ogletree making that sideline catch keeping his feet inbounds vs Roy’s drop on a crucial 3rd down….my lord!.
3. Would it really be worth it to use Ware the way we used him vs New Orleans, Buttler seems to be pretty good and Ware rested for third downs sounds like a nightmare for the other team.
Shouldn’t we start using those back ups more?
I kind of see what you mean about Ware being rested...
…he was huge in the 4th quarter and especially on that last drive but he’s too good at every other aspect of the game to use him strictly as a situational pass-rusher. Butler didn’t embarrass himself but hes no D-Ware….but i wouldnt be opposed to getting him a little extra rest so hes that amped up in the 4th quarter every week…
by American Fan on Dec 21, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Phillips > Bennett
Ogletree > Williams
Ware > Butler…but using Butler more to give Ware more energy in the 4th is not a bad idea.
~Texas Massacre '09~
really after one
game. We measure Phillips to be the latest greatest?
However, I do think that Roy, no matter how much I liked him from Texas to Detroit, leaves something to be desired. Detroit is probaly still laghing at us.
I don't think Phillips is better than Bennett
but he didn’t look out of place, and Bennett is developing a little on the slow side.
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
I'll take a stab at it
1. I think this is the wrong dichotomy
Phillips vs. Bennett, when Bennett is healthy, is no the right debate. Phillips vs. Anderson is for me. Phillips blocks well. So does Bennett. Remember, Bennett was getting the reps at true TE and Witten was being flexed before B’s injury.
Phillips does block better flexed into the backfield, as a fullback. Both those guys are better weapons as receivers than Anderson. Bennett is a target downfield.
2. Ogletree seems the one guy we see to actually challenge an established starter. Free didn’t do this, it took an injury to get him in the lineup. Flo has wobbled and Free couldn’t get a start at LT.
Ogletree got a lot of reps this week and made them count. Romo had him deep on an early play but had to eat the ball becaue his protection broke down. The guy runs good routes as speed. Bring him on.
3. I would not rest Ware. Butler may need more reps, just to keep the other guys fresh, but Ware is a monster vs. the run. I want him on the field as much as possible.
I agree that both Bennett and Phillips are better receivers...
…than Anderson, but man doesn’t Deon bring the wood whenever he gets in the game? I watch him on special teams sometimes and he just flat out loves to hit people. Maybe it’s just me but I love a guy like that with that energy and love of the game being on the field, especially as a lead blocker for our RBs.
That leaves the question of Bennett vs. Phillips in the more traditional TE position to which I say, a little competition may be a good thing for Bennett to motivate him and possibly help him excel when given the opportunities the way Phillips seemed to on Saturday.
by American Fan on Dec 21, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Deon in the SD game was a beast. He was blasting everyone.
"On a journey to anywhere you can draw your own map."
for sure
watch that drive that we had with no pass completions. we couldn’t get the last foot for the TD (only one try behind Deon) but for the rest of that drive, I think they ran behind Deon 5 or 6 times and he made some key blocks on several of their nice runs. I like the variety of the 2-TE forms and the pass threat they have, but Deon’s a great lead blocker, inside or outside, can really blast those LBs out of the hole.
Raf, does that mean olgetree could take away more from RW, Pat, or Sam?
I could see olgetree pushing sam for his job next year if he continues this kind of play.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
+1 on all three points
I’d like to see more Butler to keep everyone fresh. He’s proven he can handle a bigger work load.
Obvious Roy is the guy who will lose reps to Ogletree or anyone else. Because Dallas was not only a missed FG away from “winning”, but also a RW dropped slant away from “dominating”.
by spadesking131313 on Dec 21, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Wade: Butler "didn’t have a great game"
Wade said in his presser this morning, "Victor Butler played but he didn’t have a great game…" He was obviously passable since he was part of shutting down the Saints offense, but I think he’s still early on the learning curve transitioning from pass rushing DE to 3-4 OLB, and is still a long ways from mastering the run stopping and coverage assignments of that job. But opportunities like yesterday’s game have got to help him with experience and be able to review tape and learn from his mistakes.
You say Free couldn't wrestle the job from Flow
and that he only got on the feild through injury and that’s true.
But remember, Miles Austin couldn’t wrestle the #2 WR job from Patrick freaking Crayton and he only got on the field through injury too. Now we’re already talking about him as a Top 10 WR in the league.
I think this staff is a little hesitant (or was) to make a switch with starters even when it might be becoming obvious that the guy on the bench could play better.
I was thinking the same thing, but in a way they may be doing it to protect the players.
Ogletree looked great in preseason, but had some booboos on ST this year. By bringing him along slowly, and sprinkling him in here and there, they are avoiding doing anything detrimental to his development.
Now that he’s got another good performance under his belt, we will probably see a little more from him…injury to RW or not.
I saw a dog today. Have you seen a dog? You probably have. How was school? Was it fun? Did you get a lot of homework? Huh? Do you have any friends? Do you have a best friend? Does he have a big coat, too?
by Aaron Novinger on Dec 21, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Ware should be one of the few players
that decides when to take a breather. He knows game situations and he wouldn’t do it in critical situations, but he’s also the one that knows when he’s winded.
I gots to see me some Ogletree man.
The tribulations of Winter...
90% of Americans say 'OH SHIT!' before going into the ditch on a slippery road.
The other 10% are from TEXAS and they say, 'HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS!!!'
I really don't mind bringing along rookies slowly
especially an undrafted guy like Olgetree.
It’s the guys who spent a few years here who look good but have to continue to wait as mediocre players play in front of them that bother me.
Austin was going into his forth year, competing against an average player (Crayton), and had already showed big play potential the previous year. Since he’s got on the field he’s been one of the major driving forces behind any and all of our wins (stating the obvious I know). It concerns me that they were so hesitant to pull the trigger on something that seems so simple. Average veteran incumbent player vs young veteran Top 10 talent WR, and the latter had to wait for injury to get the start.
Doug Free is playing well. How much worse could it he have been at LT than Flozell Adams is right now if they gave him the job a few months ago? (Obviously Colombo’s injury changed everything). If they’d of had any confidence in going with a young guy maybe Flow doesn’t get a 6 year $43 million dollar contract at a rapidly decling 34 years old which is going to haunt our salary cap for years.
Oh well, what’s done is done I suppose.
The gap seems to be closing, though.
Yeah, Free’s been here a while but he’s had injuries in past camps which has slowed his development.
What’s been pretty amazing is that this year’s rookie class has been contributing, especially when you consider they are a bunch of low round picks.
J. Phillips and Buehler have been playing since day one.
Butler’s got eyes since the Carolina game.
Noone even expected Ogletree to make the squad, but here he is making everyone forget about the “potential” of Isaiah Stanback.
Stephen McGee’s over there on the sidelines with a pen and paper learning all kinds of fun stuff.
Hamlin and JWilliams have been active recently, which suggests we can expect them to lay some wood—at least on ST.
It sucks that Hodge, Brewster, and BWilliams got hurt, but at least we get to keep them around for next year.
Nobody really expected much from this class, yet they are contributing here and there. Fortunately, the team the Cowboys put together isn’t dependent upon the rooks, but seems to work with their strengths and limitations.
I saw a dog today. Have you seen a dog? You probably have. How was school? Was it fun? Did you get a lot of homework? Huh? Do you have any friends? Do you have a best friend? Does he have a big coat, too?
by Aaron Novinger on Dec 21, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
The perfect situation.
the team the Cowboys put together isn’t dependent upon the rooks, but seems to work with their strengths and limitations
Gotta hand it to the scouting dept and front office for that situation.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
miles had injury issues
Can’t win a roster spot from the IR list.
by alanTdot. on Dec 22, 2009 5:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like the Phillips for Anderson suggestion
That makes a lot of sense.
I have been pushing for more Ogletree all season. Looks like they are slowly bringing him in. Do you know how many reps he got this game?
TREE got 2 targets, 2 catches, one for a FD
Fine stats as everyone says.
In the same game, RW got 3 targets, 1 catch for a FD. And TREE got 23 yds and RW got 14
Let’s take up the chant:
“FREE THE OGLETREE”
When in doubt, empty your magazine
He seemed to play alot in the second half too, which warrants trust from the coaches.
I mean, this was a huge game and they’ve got this UDFA in. Ballsy, but worth it.
Thanks for reading BTB, Garrett.
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by Aaron Novinger on Dec 21, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
I think Free has done a VERY good job. He blew that one corner up on that play
and has been very athletic. I have hope for him at left tackle.
Free Cushed Gay
Gay was actually knocked out and didn’t realize until he huddled and then collapsed. Free was in space and just killed Gay, literally blew him up.
Anderson Can Block, For Sure
Review the opening run by MBIII; Anderson just slammed the defender trying to fill the hole and MBIII glanced off of Anderson to get his nine yard gain to open the game offensively. Anderson gets some really good blocks. Of course, Phillips blocked well on the second run when he lined up in the backfield with Witten and they both led with blocks to spring Felix.
Wade said in his presser that Butler did not have a good game
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Hmmm, on Ogletree
Seems to me that his ST woes were fielding balls which has to be one of the most ballsy plays in all of sports having 10 guys running full steam directly at you with ill will, vs. playing WR against a CB whom you are running away from (most of the time). I want to see him catch a few over the middle to see if he was nervous on ST or a deer in the headlights. My bet is he was just nervous in the service of KR/PR.
I think his skill set mirrors Steve Smith of the NYG
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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How many more balls does Roy Williams have to drop before we start using the other two guys.
Mantab, I have been asking this question for a long time. If you get an answer, let me know
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Hey Fish.....
last week a few of us were kinda getting on you for not giving Romo some love with his December performances (even in losses)…. glad to see you come around.
As always, great read.
I kind of see what you mean about Ware being rested...
…he was huge in the 4th quarter and especially on that last drive but he’s too good at every other aspect of the game to use him strictly as a situational pass-rusher. Butler didn’t embarrass himself but hes no D-Ware….but i wouldnt be opposed to getting him a little extra rest so hes that amped up in the 4th quarter every week…
10 snaps for Butler
use them judiciously and it should be good for everyone.
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
That's the way to cut to the chase!!!
Exactly what the ’Boys should be doing this week and so should we.
When in doubt, empty your magazine
of course...
I can’t help be root for the redskins tonight
by kevinkinsler on Dec 21, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Playing the Giants
makes it just a little easier to root for the skins. But it still makes my skin crawl.
BSPN labels it an "ugly win?"
Does the blatant bias ever end? Cowherd, Bayless, Theisman, Dungy … the list of haters is pathetic.
As a Tar Heel fan, it was tiring to see Vitale constantly kissing coach K’s butt … (although equally entertaining was how Dean ignored the guy :) … bias is part of sports reporting, even for a national outfit. But this Cowboys hatred is far more pervasive.
Fish, if these hacks are your friends, I hope you’re delivering some humble pie this week.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
LOL
300+ passing yards, +3 in the turnover battle, with no turnovers of our own, 440 total yards of offense = ugly win. It’s just remarkable.
Also loved Peter King saying we might be a playoff threat now. Really, Peter? We just flat out-played the best team in football at their place and we MIGHT be a threat? Jesus.
Why does this stuff bother you guys....
these mediots only do it to get attention. They day they start saying good things is the day to worry.
by Road Warrior on Dec 21, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
given my complete lack of exercise lately, that's starting to be more accurate than I care to admit!
To add to the pathetic media spin, here’s one from NFL.com:
Cowboys suddenly have reason for hope
Fans of the Cowboys, Panthers, Raiders, Buccaneers, Ravens, and even the Browns have to be wondering: Why did it take to Week 15 for my team to finally look like a good team?
Talk about a “back-handed” compliment! That’s supposed to be praise?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
I read that too
wasn’t happy.
So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 21, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
and another thing ...
Since when does beating an undefeated team 24-3 in the 4th quarter on the road qualify as “ugly” ???
Nick Folk ugly? yes … Roy’s key drop? kinda …
Dominating on both offense and defense? ANYTHING BUT UGLY :)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Well if that was winning ugly,
I like me some ugly. More, please.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Let me know when BSPN reports this:
“Dallas Cowboys visit local hospital…. all babies rearranged in maternity ward while hospice patients found with tubes physically removed. Details at 6.”
by Road Warrior on Dec 21, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Sarcastic I assume?
Meaning the only news they report about the Cowboys is when it’s bad? I’d give that about +1000000
BSPN just plain SUX – prejudiced bastards
When in doubt, empty your magazine
Exactly!
It gets tiresome, but it’s what they do. Expecting it to change would be useless.
by Road Warrior on Dec 21, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Strangely...
Bayless is really loving Dallas these days.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Dec 21, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
Bayless luving the Cowboys is like being nice to some girls mom because it might help you get laid
… the sincerity doesn’t exist
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Dec 21, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Now that is funny!
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Dec 21, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
I noticed that too.
He’s got their backs since like the KC game.
I saw a dog today. Have you seen a dog? You probably have. How was school? Was it fun? Did you get a lot of homework? Huh? Do you have any friends? Do you have a best friend? Does he have a big coat, too?
by Aaron Novinger on Dec 21, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Re #7
Cant overlook the Skins. They always get up to play us, and they’re at home. Yes, their management/FO is a mess, but they’ve looked better recently than they were early in the year.
I think it’s very helpful that we’ll have had 2 more days of prep for the game than they will.
+100 They are more dangerous now and at home.
Getting up on them early sure would help-emotionally, and strategically, because they’re not really built to come from behind.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Dec 21, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Some side effects of ESPN kissing your ass include:
Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, rash at the site of infection, fever, cramps. You may want to reconsider and simply stay away from them altogether.
If SHE has one for 4 hours, you may be in the wrong hotel room
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
#11
Please, Wade and JoeD, get Romo off holding duties now.
It was Folk, not McBriar. McBriar was fine!
This is a no-win situation, and hopefully we hear a minor report coming out of camp, when the new kicker is announced, that also they will go back to the old holder!
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
Thank you.
I was wondering if they would get McB back in there after switching out Ks. Gosh, I hope so.
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by Aaron Novinger on Dec 21, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
any news about the kicker?
I hope they cut him. I’d be ok if they resigned him tomorrow, but at some point they’ve got to shake up his mind
Interesting article...
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/8628/is-shanahan-waiting-on-jerry
I’m not really for Shanahan coming to the Cowboys, but I do think that Dallas offers a better situation.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Dec 21, 2009 3:01 PM CST reply actions
I think Shanahan is raising the price on Washington
he may find himself getting passed over unexpectedly if he tarries all the way to the play offs.
by AustonianAggie on Dec 21, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know if I'm ready for 290lb Olinemen.
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by Aaron Novinger on Dec 21, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Can someone please explian the thought of bringing in Suisham?
Isn’t he unemployed for missing the exact same field goal against the exact same team on the exact same situation? Am I missing anything?
By the way, How bad can Buehler be when you consider Suisham or Folk over him?….either the lights are on and the house is empty or something is really screwed up here.
you heard it here first, but ...
Don’t be surprised if Folk makes the trip to DC. I would not be at all surprised to see them stick with Nick.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
That would mean
we couldn’t find anyone better, and that sucks.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
... Okay, I lied...
I didn’t know I was lying, and I didn’t intend to lie… but the Cowboys made me do it. Folk!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Maybe Coach D should look into a hypnotist for Folk...
You can do it. You’ve done it your whole life. You, your foot, the ball are one (grasshopper) ;-)
Where is Steve whatshisname, the kicking coach Parcells fired (another stupid Parcells move)?
When in doubt, empty your magazine
Hoffman - yeah. Thanks. :)
I though he was awesome and there’s no cap on coaches. But I won’t get in a rage about Parcells again. Already done it here a couple of times.
But, g-dammit he was a stupid game manager. Great eye for talent, not so much for coaching
When in doubt, empty your magazine
Hoffman is the ST coach in Kansas City now.
I thought he did an outstanding job with our kickers when he was here.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
ST or Kicking?
Maybe we can poach him for next year? Cause kickers all have one similarity, they need special handling and Hoffman was the absolute best at handling them
When in doubt, empty your magazine
No, he's running the entire ST's show in KC.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Squeezem has missed three FGs and Folk has missed
like three or four Brazillian.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
If Suisham comes in, they should make Folk hold for him.
To get more snaps, they can have him be the upback for McB’s punts, too.
I saw a dog today. Have you seen a dog? You probably have. How was school? Was it fun? Did you get a lot of homework? Huh? Do you have any friends? Do you have a best friend? Does he have a big coat, too?
by Aaron Novinger on Dec 21, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
he got cut
cause he missed 2 FGs against us, and one against …. someone …. cost them the game.
I was a little surprised they cut him. He was 18 for 21 for Washington.
Yeah isnt he the Skins alltime percentage field goal leader w/ min 100 attempts?
How can that be worse than Folk right now?
Folk just proved that it's only what you've done for me lately
… it’s interesting that Suisham’s first game will be back in DC
:)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
winning ugly?
Just deleted ESPN from my favorites menu.
What a stupid comment from some ugly commentators
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"
Let me put in the first vote for Sam Swank
Has there ever been a bigger porno name for a kicker??? If he shows up with a Scott Case mustache, I say we take him on the spot.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I think Sam Swank is Scott Suisham's porno name
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Dec 21, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
Shaun Suisham
I keep calling him Scott as well. I must be confused with Scott “rhymes with missin;” Scisson from the 90s.
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
Doh
Well if he makes a few kicks, I’ll learn his first name.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Dec 22, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
I am not getting into the Great BTB Debate, but ...
I do think Garrett can run the ball a little bit more on 3rd and medium. NFL teams sell out on the pass on these downs, and Dallas has the type of rushing attack to pick up easy first downs. … His play calling balance has been excellent, and his work with Romo has been nothing short of genius.
by spadesking131313 on Dec 21, 2009 3:24 PM CST reply actions
Fish .. I have to disagree with you on your first point ..
while Spencer has been “that” good, Mike Jenkins is playing lights out coverage. He, IMO, has been our defensive MVP. Now I probably don’t get to view the same game video as you, it seems to me that everytime he gets air time, he is just blanketing his guy. Even last week against San Diego, it took an incredible pass AND an incredible catch to beat him. While I’d have to say players on TEAMs have to compliment each other to be successful, Jenkins is the guy playing at the highest level.
by spadesking131313 on Dec 21, 2009 3:30 PM CST reply actions
great discussion to be having
which defensive player is playing at the highest level… Ware, Ratliff, Spencer and Jenkins all deserve to be in that conversation… plus Brooking and Sensabaugh are not far off…
Yup.
I kinda hope they keep the December swoon thing going, cuz this team is responding well to the adversity this year.
I saw a dog today. Have you seen a dog? You probably have. How was school? Was it fun? Did you get a lot of homework? Huh? Do you have any friends? Do you have a best friend? Does he have a big coat, too?
by Aaron Novinger on Dec 21, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
I have to give a little love to Spencer. I think her has been playing lights out
but just has missed on sacks earlier in the year. He is getting them now. Does anyone else pay attention to how many plays he chases down from the backside and how many times you see him 15-20 yards down the field making tackles. I said before the season Ellis would have more sacks than him in the first 8 games but Spencer would beat him the last 8 games. I love his hustle and versatility.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Spencer's Cloak of Invisibility
he must have one, that’s the only way I can understand how they managed to leave him completely unblocked on his 2 sacks. He had a great game, but boy it is easier to get to the QB when they forget to block you lol…
Anyone else notice the similarities between this year and last.
We need a win in these last 2 games to make the p[layoffs. We are playing our next game at night. If we and the Eagles win they are a half a game up and they come to our house for divisional lead. The only problem is we cant knock them out of the playoffs and snatch the NFCeast tile from them. It would be poetic justice.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Yeah but ..
Maybe we can grab homefield for the wild card round and kick the shit out of them then and send them home!! (excuse the language, but I am sure we all can appreciate talkin about the Eagles)
by spadesking131313 on Dec 21, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
I posted elsewhere earlier, but:
“The dude was 18-21 this year
and 5/5 from 40 – 49 yards!
Absolutely he should be the guy.
And, hmmm, would he love to stick it in the Redskins next week ????
Or have any insight to their coverages etc. on sp. teams? (a longshot, I know)"
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
Mike, please!!
Please don’t refer to our fearless leader and Steve “it’s that time of the month” Young in the same sentence. JEEZ! Dude nothing exists in SF except fog and mud.
just hate dem boys
If my Giants dont make the play offs, they dont deserve to be be there.Keep worring about your kicker. It would be sweet to see the Boys needing to beat the Eagles, and the Giants beating the Vikings on the last day, and seeing the Boys eliminated by tie breakers to N.Y. You have know ideas that even if the Giants and their rotten defense craps out, beating the Boys twice makes my day. I can look forward to seeing them beaten if they make the playoffs by who ever they draw as a road team. Rooting against the Cowboys every week is bonus, for Giants fans, as well as Cowboy haters everywhere. The agonized look on Jerry Jones face, your schmuck owner when they lost
to the Giants 2 years ago, and Phillips sore loser " we were the better Team" press conference and TO tears were priceless. Used to respect the Cowboys excellence, even if they kicked the Giants butts regularly from the time they entered the NFL., but now relish their failures even more than when they went 1-15 prior to their last Superbowl run.
Jones first act as an owner was to fire Tom Landry, humiliate Jimmy Johnson by Replacing him with coaching pariah Barry Switzer and grab off the credit for all three rings for himself. He wised up long enought to hire Parcells after a series of poor coaching choices that allowed him maximum personnel control. But if that wasnt enough
he drove Parcells away from a team that was on the cusp of playoff success, that Parcells had molded. The TO signing, the PacMan signing before he was even reinstated by the Commissioner. Tank whatever his last name is, A new Stadium built
to have 20,000 suckers stand for 3 hours to squeeze every last dime. Even during the glory years and 3 SB rings the Boys despite Aikman selective memory lapses, were
a hot bed of wink wink drug use by Michael Irvin and others. Dont tell me that that pig
Flozell Adams behavior isnt tacitly condoned by coaches and ownership, and pardonable if it contributes to winning, even if opposing players are injured. He is now
regarded as the dirtiest player in the league, and the most penalized. Its one thing to coach cut blocking as they do in Denver over the years, but Adam needs suspension
not fines. One win against the Aints on the road, doesnt mean a Super Bowl. As`well as
Dallas played, the Saint did some sleepwalking in uncharted waters. Usually this time of year they are on the outside looking in, let alone 7 games up and playing for an undefeated season. I give the Boys credit, but now lets see, what there made of.
needs league suspension.
by sudden death overtime on Dec 21, 2009 6:13 PM CST reply actions
Good luck tonight
cus you’re gonna need it
by spadesking131313 on Dec 21, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
OBTW!!!!
The best player to don a Giants uniform …. did drugs DURING the games!!!!
by spadesking131313 on Dec 21, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
dddduuuuuuuuudeeeee........
take a chill pill man…….
Paragraph, sentence, periods
How about some coherence thrown in for good measure?
Paragraphs, sentences, periods... a few more verbs ... and maybe a HS diploma to round it out
One thing he was right about: The Cowboys OWNED the Giants in the Meadowlands – even through the Parcells years there. We could be out-played every which way and still walk away with a win.
I know, I went to most of those games.
Some times these trolls remind us how lucky we are to have quality posters on this blog.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
who pulled
your chain? what the hell? your post has nothing to do with the subject. take your punk a$$ back to that sorry giants blog and shut up. giants won’t make the playoofs this year. matter of fact they will lose this game you trick.
So that is "gving the Cowboys credit"
Well maybe that is how you give credit if you are a troll.
Your last line says it all. That said, Witten is right;
now is the time to man up, take a deep breath, take their fate in their own hands, and play lights out.

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