Adam Schefter tweets that Cowboys will sign kicker Shaun Suisham.
Cowboys will be signing former Redskins K Shaun Suisham to kick against his former Washington team Sunday night.
[UPDATE]: From Todd Archer:
The club reached an agreement with Shaun Suisham, who kicked in six games with the Cowboys from 2005-06, according to a source, on Monday not long after he finished an audition at Valley Ranch with four other kickers.[END UPDATE]
[UPDATE II]: Cowboys cut Nick Folk to make room for Suisham. [END UPDATE]
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nope there are not
but w/e anything is better than folk, also this sends a message as well
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
what's up buddy
hope you’re ready and lathered up for these Iggles! I know I am.
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I find it incredibly ironic...
That the kicker that will supposedly solve our kicking woes is a guy who was cut four years ago by the Cowboys for missing kicks.
The big point in all this though is this: it’s not like Suisham can do any worse than Folk. And I really, really feel bad for him and I hope he comes back with his head on straight next season.
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The other ironic part is...
Suisham got released from the Skins for missing the exact same kick (24 yards) against the exact same team (Saints).
by Road Warrior on Dec 21, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
seriously lol
there’s a remarkable symmetry to this… not one that’s terribly confidence building for us fans, but definitely good for the irony
WHOO
Hey at least when he missed against the saints he kicked it straight, only prob was he was lined up on the hashmark haha.
I think hes the best option out there. Elam was awfull and they really must not think Beuhler can do a better job than these free agents.
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 21, 2009 4:54 PM CST reply actions
I got it!
Maybe Sushiam was pulling for Dallas all along. check it out, he was perfect on the season untill he played his former team. Then when the redskins fans thought they had a signature win he screwed them over! What a guy, faithfull to jerry all these years later
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 21, 2009 4:56 PM CST reply actions
LOLlipops
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by accidental innuendo on Dec 21, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Except he had a Game Winning FG against us a couple years back
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
Good Move
Hopefully Folk will still be on the team and can come back next year.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
I don't understand this sentiment of bringing him back
Why? He’s lost it, and no other team is going to give him a chance to get it back. But you would like the Cowboys to give him another shot in a regular season situation when every game counts? No chance.
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by accidental innuendo on Dec 21, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
He's shown in the past he's got talent
That’s one.
Because we’re starting all over again next year, that’s two.
Three, because it might be physical from the surgery last year, and he came back early. Time + therapy may make him as good as new next summer.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Dec 21, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
Wow
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Dec 21, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
havent announced that yet
cant see how they could afford to have 3 kickers on the roster thought
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 21, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
could release him too
who else will sign him now? nobody has use for a guy that cant make a 24 yard straight on fg.
Theres a good chance they could sign him in the offseason if they think he can rebound.
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 21, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
Sushiam is already responsible for one of our wins!
helped us beat the redskins by missing 2 kicks.
I say go back to mcbriair as the holder unless he actually was bad at it. Its more time he can work with the kicker compared to Romo
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 21, 2009 5:01 PM CST reply actions
some of the problems were bad holds
a lot of them were on Folk for sure, but McBriar wasn’t a great holder either
career 79.4 percent and he was better than that this year
lots of kickers have performed worse and not got cut. He became a better kicker after leaving Dallas
good point
if he makes that percent hear I think the cowboys will take it. Allot better than folk this season
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 21, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
Well if there's ever a guy that'll be motivated to
have his head in the right place, it’s Suisham kicking on Sunday night against the team that just cut him.
Hope we give him lots of practice this week with the speakers turned up REAL loud because the Skins fans will be letting him hear it every time he steps on the field
Drinking the Blue Kool-Aid since 1980. "Ohhhhhh yeeeaaaaahhhh!"
true
the offense needs to make his first game easy, score tds
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 21, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
I’m intrigued to see what Suisham can do… I saw Suisham and Elam as a toss-up…so let’s see what he can…
by SDTrueblue on Dec 21, 2009 5:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Perhaps there is a second reason for grabbing him too…he can maybe provide some info on Washington. And I guess he can’t do any worse than Folk…..
Info on the Redskins...
Is just icing on the cake. Gotta make those gimmes.
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by accidental innuendo on Dec 21, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
maybe he can kick off too.
not that Beuhler isnt doing a good job of that but if shuisam could kick off maybe that could save them an activr roster spot down the strech
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 21, 2009 5:08 PM CST reply actions
He's
the guy to get if they were going off the street. The only guy with a worse % then Folk this year is Elam.
If you’re going to replace Folk for the year, it had to be him, IMO.
folk had every oppertunity in the world
because of his past greatness he was given a ton of leeway. He missed kick after kick, helped games come down to the wire and or be lost and still had a chance to keep his job.
Glad Dallas has finally moved on.
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 21, 2009 5:15 PM CST reply actions
Is Suisham the best available? I think I’m heading to my local high school to practice kicking field goals obviously there’s a supply and demand issue.
Isn’t there a Grammatica running around somewhere?
haha
thats my thought too. How cant there be more men in the world that can kick a football accurately?
I think Suisham is prolly the best experienced guy but thats not saying allot.
the gramaticas prolly have torn acls from jumping around too much
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 21, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
what is your expectation
you aren’t going to find a pro bowler in December. It is still an upgrade
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Find it hard to believe Beuhler couldn't have been better than Suisham?!
B is a stud… Suisham is not much better than Folk…. Wish we could have just gone with him and saved ourselves a roster spot!
18/21
one of the misses was from 50. That is the very definition of much better than Folk if you are talking 2009.
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Well he cost them 2 consecutive games.
Besides the 50 yarder, he missed a 30-40 against the Cowboys and lost 7-6.
The Saints game he missed an 18 yarder that would have won it.
That’s why they cut him. That and Dan Snyder is a complete idiot.
Interested
In how he did in the kicking competition.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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This moves shows how CLUELESS WP and JJ can be...
The FG kicker on your own roster has become a liability. So what do you do? You go out and sign a kicker who just missed a game winning kick against the Saints the week before. Such idiocy. This also shows WHY WP is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM HEAD COACHING MATERIAL. Never has been and never will be.
Unbelievable.
How do you find a kicker
who has been cut for making winning kicks?
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Uh?
Please, explain the following:
a) Who would have been the best option in your opinion? And don’t come to me with the name of a FG kicker on another team with a high pct, those guy aren’t available…
b) Why is this a clueless move?
I’ll explain my reasoning:
Out of the street FAs who has an accuracy comparable to 18/21 in 2009? No one? That’s your answer.
Am I glad that this is the direction the team is moving on? No, I would be throwing human sacrifices to the Football Gods if they restore Folk to his pre-2009 condition…
Suisham is the best option right now.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Okay...so YOU think you want to sign a kicker who has MISSED a game winning FG ....
and by bringing in that kicker, you want to have faith in that SAME kicker who lost a game to help you WIN a game at the end? I’m sorry but that’s incompetent thinking.
OTOH….if Suisham comes in and proves that he IS reliable and CONSISTENT, I will be the first to thank him!
Exactly.
A higher percentage would be ideal, unfortuantely, we do not have that luxury at this stage of the season..
Superbowl, or BUST.
I think that was Beasticon's point.
That 80% figure is Suisham and the 65% is Folk. Actually, I think 18/21 is closer to 85%. So we do have the luxury and management made the move.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
You're not getting it
if there were a better kicker, he’d HAVE a job because he’s better. Suisham is the cream of the crap, if you will.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
In other words
You hate Wade and even after a career defining win, you will find a way to bash him.
Well done?
I DEFY you to look at WP's record where he has been head coach and then come back and tell me you still want him.
I do not hate WP. I simply think he is a poor choice for a coach. He may be a decent defensive coach but I just don’t think he offers anything as a head coach. His coaching decsions and his judgement are what I base my comments on and taken as a WHOLE, remember 13-3 and the Giants debacle? We were ALL calling for his head and rightly so.
Wade..
has the second most wins in the NFL behind Belichick since he became Cowboys head coach. Pretty good record.
That is pretty impresive
13-4
9-7
9-5
Considering the 9-7 season was marred by injuries and TO’s locker room divisiveness, I’d say Wade has done as good a job as anyone working for Jerry.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Dec 21, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
WP's record as a HC is nothing special...
In 10 yrs as a HC, his record is 63-56…hardly inspiring. That stat is from….
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/PhilWa0.htm
That cant be right
So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 21, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
He is 61 and 46
So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 21, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
No
I thought It was better than that.
So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 21, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
OK, besides Jimmy
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Dec 22, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
I'll hold off
until we see how he does. What else can you do?
Interesting
Maybe they are confident that Beuhler can become a reliable kicker with an offseason to work on it. It would be nice to actually only have one place kicker on the roster.
Cowboys cut Folk
DMN has it on their blog…i am kinda bummed if this is true…i wanted to see Folk back here next year..oh well
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t most analyst have Mason Crosby graded higher than what the folk. And JJ and his crack scouts over thought and reached for Folk.
Just like they went with Felix Jones over 2k rusher Chris Johnson and they passed on Desean Jackson and paid a kings ransom for Roy Williams. Not to mention has Martellus really been an upgrade over Fasano.
Some teams win because of their front office this team wins sometimes in spite of it’s front office.
Ridiculous
Firstly, JJ took FJ over Chris Johnson because he was rated higher on the team draft board. Even the Titans admitted that they would have prefered Felix. But then again you would be a great hindsight GM wouldn’t you.
Secondly, Crosby is struggling just as bad as Folk, just go over to their site, many posters were calling for him to be cut.
So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 21, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
Felix made have been rated higher but it wasn’t cut and dry I can recall many on Raf’s old blog making valid arguments for drafting CJ over FJ. Mostly durability and being more of an every down back was the issue.
Jeff Fisher himself said that he wanted...
… Felix Jones… He surely loves having Johnson right now, but the Titans also had Felix higher on their board.
Now, tell me that they’re idiots, too.
Oh, and Folk was the better K for a couple of years, it’s a shame that everything is going down the drain, but it isn’t as if it was obvious that such a thing would happen…
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
at the time..
Chris Johnson was considered late 1st, early 2nd and many thought the Titans reached for CJ. If Dallas was taking heat for not taking a RB, it would have been Mendenhall who was sliding at the time.
Commonwealth Connection
Canadian snapper, Aussie holder, Canadian kicker.
I assume
Romo was just there to appease Folk.
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
Also to consider:
The dude was 18-21 this year
and 5/5 from 40 – 49 yards!
Absolutely he should be the guy.
And, hmmm, would he love to stick it in the Redskins next week ????
Or have any insight to their coverages etc. on sp. teams? (a longshot, I know)"
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
Think he'll keep his head down Raf?
How could he possibly be worse than Folk? And, I seem to remember another season is the last decade that we made a late season switch at K….hmmm, what year was that?
WORST kicker on free agency
This guy is just as unreliable as Nick Folk.
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: not 11-5 :(
2009-2010 Dallas Mavericks: 57-25
Any other free agents
who have played this year and are batting over 85%? Who would you recommend.
How do you assess reliability?
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
Suisham doesn't have the yips. Folk does.
I keep reading people say he missed the same kick as Folk. No it was a similar distance, but it wasn’t in a dome. He missed two against us, one over 50 yards. He’s 18 of 21, which is better than 18 of 28.
I also read people asking why would the Cowboys bring back someone they already cut. Suisham kicked pretty well when he was here. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t we cut him when we signed Vanderjact? I may not have that right.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
should be a fantastic upgrade
suisham really hasnt been that bad this year, he just really blew it against the saints. other than that one kick and the game we played against washington he hasnt missed a single FG. i’m pleased.
i'm calling it right now...
Suisham kicks the game winner against the Redskins next week.
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
it won't be that close
we’re gonna kill em
by robolundgren on Dec 21, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
i want to agree
but they always play us tough. may i use 7-6 as evidence?
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Dec 21, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
well yeah, i know they play us hard
but i just find it hard to believe they’ll hold it that close again
by robolundgren on Dec 21, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
Hey!
See my comment above!
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Dec 22, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
Suisham by the numbers
Career – 85 of 107 (79.4%)
2005 – 3 of 4 (75%)
2006 – 9 of 11 (81.8%)
2007 – 29 of 35 (82.8%)
2008 – 26 of 36 (72.2%)
2009 – 18 of 21 (85.7%)
Career stats:
0 to 29 yards – 29 of 30 (96.6%)
30 to 39 yards – 26 of 32 (81.3%)
40 to 49 yards – 27 of 36 (75%)
50 and up – 3 of 9 (33.3%)
Of his 22 total missed field goals:
10 were wide left (50, 39, 48, 41, 50, 37, 49, 30, 52, and 39)
6 were wide right (47, 50, 42, 48, 50, and 23)
2 hit the right upright (36 and 36)
2 were short (47 and 46)
1 was blocked (43)
1 reason for miss unrecorded (54)
Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character. - John Wooden
Suisham definitely isn't an upgrade over Folk
very disappointing we are heading into the playoff stretch without a reliable kicker, hopefully Wade will go for more 4th downs
In Romo we Trust
He undoubtadly is an upgrade
Even though he isnt great
So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 21, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
*undoubtedly
So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 21, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
how do you come to that conclusion terry?
he’s been better than folk by a long shot this year
by robolundgren on Dec 21, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree
I saw him miss two big kicks against us which cost the Skins that game and missed a chippie like Folk against Saints which cost the Skins that game.
Suisham definitely isn’t an upgrade
In Romo we Trust
better %
and didn’t miss in a dome
So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 21, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
what would make him an upgrade
other than making a much higher percentage of his kicks?
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
better % makes him unquestionably an upgrade...
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Dec 21, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
That makes no sense
IMO
So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!
by aussie_cowboy on Dec 21, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
well the kick against the saints was inexcusable
but missing two against us implies he just had a bad game, it happens to the best of them. freakin venitiara, one of if not the most clutch kickers ever has had worse seasons than suisham is having
by robolundgren on Dec 21, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
I thought players couldn't win or lose games
only teams could.
I’m sure there are other plays that could have turned the tide in the game against us, and one kick was a 50 yarder. Those are a coin toss at best.
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Their execution (or lack there of) influences games, so regardless how you feel about kickers
their play must be evaluated just like any other position on the field.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Dec 21, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
so kickers are more important
because they have more influence? Or are you just reverse engineering your statements again?
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
no but it makes sense
kickers can win or lose games, other players aren’t
and you want Folk to be the guy
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 22, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
what would be satisfactory, then?
who would you nominate for the position that would be a better guy? Anyone still available that has done better than 18-21 for the year this year?
What's his percentage this season?
What’s that? He’s retired? How is that an upgrade, Terry?
I don’t get your reasoning on this one.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
he was a good clutch kicker
and who said he’s officially retired, just not employed as an NFL kicker at this moment.
In Romo we Trust
has he been training
or is he covered in rust?
I am sure you will tell me it doesnt’ matter. you know he would be better no matter what.
That is lots of faith in a guy who went 6/10 last year, playing for a dome team, got cut and has had no work since.
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 22, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, when I said that a while back, you said it did not make any sense
Glad to see you are coming around
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
how many times has folk completely deflated the Cowboys?
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Dec 21, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
Glad to make a change...
I love Nick Folk for those kicks against Buffalo, but ten misses is absolutely inexcusable. A change had to be made. And yes, I think Suisham represents an upgrade. The kicks he missed against Dallas were of a decent distance and while that Saints miss was terrible, he hit all his other FGs this year. That is not something that Nick Folk can remotely claim. Plus, I assume he kicked well enough in his workout for Dallas to conclude that he is currently an upgrade over Folk and his godawful kicks in practice. Like I said, I really like Folk as a person, but it is time to move on.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
in the warmup
Folk was hitting cold shank after cold shank from a tee – hopeless.
Let’s not forget his little whinefest about needing a new holder. He wasn’t exactly taking it on his shoulders. We don’t need finger pointers, especially from our kicker.
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
I guess
you’ll always have Buffalo, Nick. I still go back and watch that game. Has any rookie kicker ever been so clutch as that moment? Sad that we’ve reached this point with him.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
he is the Bobby Clampett of kickers
Maybe he read to much Homer Kelley
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
in defense of folk
When they showed the misses during pregame…who knows if he made 100 of em and missed those 4? I really don’t know since I watched the game at a bar and couldn’t hear anything.
But this is the right move for sure. It hurts, and if we didn’t have Beuhler, we could carry two kickers. I assume they aren’t allowed to stow away Folk on IR, and that they couldn’t put McGee on the practice squad, etc. Cutting Suisham was a knee jerk move on WASH’s part…
+1
Cutting Suisham was a knee jerk move on WASH’s part…
another boneheaded move from the skins
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Dec 21, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
esactly, just because the Skins cut him does not mean they should have cut him
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
you may be right on the 4/100
but those weren’t just misses. They were like nothing I have ever seen before.
by I_miss_Switzer on Dec 21, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
Suisham's 23 yard miss
is his ONLY miss less than 30 yards out of 107 field goal attempts – and he got fired because of it
Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character. - John Wooden
Did seem a bit hasty
Unless they know something we don’t….
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
Posters agree with the 'Boys choice
Free agent options laid out here:
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2009/12/20/1209441/which-free-agent-kicker
Suisham was the #1 choice (28%)
Second was keep Folk (17%) – so we have a lot of loyal posters
Third was Elam (16%) – but apparently the Cowboys didn’t consider him “due to injury concerns”
A real shame that Adam Vinatieri got injured – as otherwise Matt Stover would have been available and in my view a perfect choice. Vinatieri is suppossed to be out 4-8 weeks and its been 8…. If he comes back, Stover is likely cut and a good pickup if Suisham bombs at the Skins. Given Vinatieri would have been out for a while, Indy may hold them both for a little while for insurance for their playoff run. Also note Stover has only been kicking XP’s for the last 2 weeks…
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
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