Must beat eagles 3 times, tall order....

not true

I was doing the playoff simulator yeasturday and if the packers loose to the seahawks this week and then beat az theres a strong possibility dallas would play gb. Only thing that would change that is a tie or dallas loosing one of the last 2 and ny getting in

"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"

by sprewelllatrell on Dec 22, 2009 9:33 AM CST reply actions

Dude, seriously...

Have you seen the Seahawks play?

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Dec 22, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions

There are plenty of other playoff scenarios...

…that doesn’t pit the Cowboys and Eagles against each other in the first round. Root for the Bears to beat the Vikings this weekend for starters.

The Cowboys could still get a first round bye if they win out and the Vikings lose out, (plus the Cards have to drop one more as well). There’s even a scenario where the Cowboys host the Giants in the first round and I’d LOVE another shot at those guys.

Try playing with the Yahoo playoff simulator to see all the different possibilities:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=yahooranker

Dallas has to win out because neither the Giants nor the Packers are going to falter from here. 10-6 will not get it done for Dallas this year.

The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.

by gee-roj on Dec 22, 2009 9:34 AM CST reply actions

That "cant beat them 3 times in one year" is BS

Pitt did it just last year to baltimore. I know it would take allot to do that but theres no way they should not go all out week 17. The home field is much more important than you think. Plus if they are to advance past the first round it keeps the possibility of getting another home game alive.

"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"

by sprewelllatrell on Dec 22, 2009 9:36 AM CST reply actions

I agree

I would much rather be Dallas playing at home two straight times than Philladelphia having to travel to Dallas two straight times. The key to the entire playoffs is to win the NFC East. Notwithstanding the success teams have had recently, being a road Wild Card is a tough draw. This scenario could play out: the Dallas/Philly game gets flexed to Sunday night and then the two teams might meet again in Dallas the following Saturday. That would make for a short, travel-filled week for the Eagles, which would play nicely into Dallas’ hands.

Philly could have to travel to Dallas two straight weeks and Green bay may have to travel to Arizona two straight weeks.

by Cowboy.Louie on Dec 22, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions

definitely

i can’t stand the thought of playing at Philly in the playoffs. I’d much rather take our chances playing at home under perfect field conditions. You never know what Philly’s field will be like in January, but we know what Cowboys Stadium’s field conditions will be.

by BuckeyeICO on Dec 22, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions

Welcome back, Louie

Haven’t seen you in quite a while…

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Dec 22, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions

thanks

I’ve been popping in now and then to catch up, but mostly I’ve been busy getting ready for Christmas. Quite a fun challenge with two little ones.

Wow, what a game Saturday night! I’m still on such a high. Can’t help it; I’m back emotionally tied to this team in December despite the 1-2 record. Should be fun the rest of the way.

by Cowboy.Louie on Dec 23, 2009 7:06 AM CST up reply actions

ready to start giving some love to Romo now?

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 23, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions

Yep

His December play in 2009 has been lights out and he has forced me to considerably improve my opinion of him. It will be very interesting to see how he plays from here on out.

by Cowboy.Louie on Dec 23, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions

well thats good to hear

maybe Deke and Tex will come around as well….ah, who am I kidding, that will never happen.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 23, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions

Believe in Christmas miracles Terry!!!

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Dec 23, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions

Philly could potentially get a first round bye...

If we take care of business against the Broncos and you guys; and the Vikings drop one of their final 2 games, we get a week off.

by JimmyK on Dec 22, 2009 9:51 AM CST reply actions

I believe the Cowboys match up well against the Eagles

McNabb likes to go deep which is good for the Cowboys because:
1)With a slow developing play, that gives Rat, Ware, and Spencer more time to bring pressure on the QB
2) The weakness in the Cowboys defense has been coverage by the linebackers in the middle of the field but McNabb likes to go to his receivers down the sidelines which works in the Cowboys favor because they have good cornerbacks. Plus the Cowboys shut down the Eagles passing game last time.

by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Dec 22, 2009 9:52 AM CST reply actions

Desean Jackson 2 for 29 yards last time we played

(love that stat)

by Thehomerpimpson on Dec 22, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions

And Austin had one catch

it happened to go for a TD, but it’s not like he was owning our secondary or anything.

Brent Celek’s not a bad option for McNabb in the middle of the field either…if I remember this season well enough, it seems as though Celek is having a pretty good year.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 22, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions

I see your Celek

and raise you a Witten

So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!

by aussie_cowboy on Dec 23, 2009 12:17 AM CST up reply actions

Sure, I'm not at all saying Celek is better

and I have no interest in just saying names back and forth…

NguyenScenario was saying how the Cowboys match-up well against the Eagles because we throw the ball to the outside where your D is strong, and we don’t throw the ball to the middle. Celek’s had a great year in the middle.

Witten is better than Celek, no one’s arguing that…Eagles are usually bad against TE’s, so I expect Witten to play well against us, that wasn’t my point at all.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 23, 2009 6:49 AM CST up reply actions

Understood

but my point was that while our LBs do struggle to cover TEs, your performance against TE has been almost as bad. Both players may well have big games.

So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!

by aussie_cowboy on Dec 23, 2009 7:36 AM CST up reply actions

Dallas has contained top receivers this year

Steve Smith, Manningham and Vincent Jackson are the only receivers that have had 100 yard games against the Cowboys. The Cowboys secondary is actually pretty good at containing passing offenses, the issue is if the Cowboys can keep Romo from getting pressured. If Romo gets hit less than 10 times/game, the Cowboys should be able to win both games. If the offensive line (the weakest part of the Cowboys team) can play average, the Cowboys should be able to win the division.

by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Dec 22, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions

100 yard games don't impress me

because we spread the ball around so much. Guys rarely get more than 5 or 6 catches, and DeSean only happens to get 100 yard games because he averages 20yds/catch.

A lot of teams have a big-time go-to receiver…that guy’s getting 7-10 grabs a game, and will put up 100 yard games…containing those guys is impressive, but we don’t really have anyone on our team catching the ball that often.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 22, 2009 10:01 PM CST up reply actions

Ok, let's just win against Washington first

by DavidH22 on Dec 22, 2009 10:59 AM CST reply actions

I'm just a fan, I can speculate

The only film the Cowboys are looking at this weeks is Redskins’ film. They don’t have time for anything else. The offensive and defensive gameplans Wade and the Redhead put together pertain ONLY to the Redskins.

by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Dec 22, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions

I just don't like to jinx stuff...no offense

by DavidH22 on Dec 22, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions

+1

So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!

by aussie_cowboy on Dec 23, 2009 12:18 AM CST up reply actions

Agreed

One game at a time. I still remember the season looking rosy last year after we beat the Giants. And then…(shudder).

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by accidental innuendo on Dec 22, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah, Washington first because a loss there renders this discussion moot

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Dec 24, 2009 8:03 AM CST up reply actions

I don't think the Cowboys have beaten the Eagles three times in a row

since the 1994 (both games) and 1995 (first game) seasons, never mind in one season.

by DavidH22 on Dec 22, 2009 11:16 AM CST reply actions

it doesn't matter

you can’t go into any game between us with either side EXPECTING a victory.

We all just bite our nails, calm our indegestion, drink beer, yell, throw things. cheer, sit quietly, jump around…and see what happens at the end.

Any game between us can go either way, and if you can’t admit that, you’re delusional (cough, cough, Terry)

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 22, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions

They may have to beat them 3 times this year

to permanently rid themselves of any residue from the 44-6 beating last year. This could be redemption at its finest.

by Billito on Dec 22, 2009 11:30 AM CST reply actions

And if you pull it off

you deserve it…I don’t think you will beat us 3 times, but I sure didn’t expect to beat the Giants as often as we have, and I don’t think we’re more invincible than anyone else.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 22, 2009 10:05 PM CST up reply actions

I'd rather beat you guys the last game of the season

and then not face you in the playoffs but I hope the cowboys can do what they have to do.

by Billito on Dec 23, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions

I DEFINITELY don't want to see you Wildcard Weekend!

I get too worked up for Cowboys games, and I don’t think my blood pressure could handle two weeks in a row. I’d MUCH prefer we go our separate ways in the wildcard, our separate ways for the Divisional Round, and then meet in NFCCG (if it comes to that)…

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 23, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions

Agreed

That 44-6 game last year almost ruined my New year’s and I had to do a complete sports hiatus for a couple of days.

I agree that our teams are very evenly matched and every game could go either way. What I can’t figure out is why we have been able to beat the iggles this year but got swept by the giants. It would be sweet revenge to keep them out of the playoffs.

by Billito on Dec 23, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions

There is a chance these two could be playing each other...

…in week 17, simply to see who gets to host the following week. In that case both teams might hold something back (in terms of the playbook) that they’d rather save for the wild card round.

The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.

by gee-roj on Dec 23, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions

The likely possiblity of Eagles/Cowboys leaves a PIT IN MY STOMACH.

Based on the opponents of the other teams, i completely believe this senario will occur. I can’t stand having to face them again. After the heartbreak of 07, i will have a complete emotional breakdown if the cowboys lose in the playoffs after sweeping the eagles (just like the giants). If they win, it will feel like a relief, not like an overly joyous affair. It’s like, “there, finally we got a playoff victory”. If they lose, it’s like “I cannot believe it happened again”. I just hate getting my hopes up. This team has been such a tease over the past 3 years. I do think if the cowboys get past the monumental task of winning 3 straight (10, 11, WC), then they will feel like an elephant is off thier collective backs. I think they will be a “loosest” of the remaining playoff teams. The sky could be the limit. BUT 1st the DAMM EAGLES!

by Toughquestions on Dec 23, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions

i dunno guys i just don't like that senario...

but it looks like it will lilkey happen. I have played around on yahoo generator, and most combinations of wins and loses pit us against the eagles, either home or away. I guess you just gotta believe if this team is up to the task, it’s up to the task. Unfortunately, our NFC East foes are always around come playoff time.

by Toughquestions on Dec 22, 2009 1:29 PM CST reply actions

it's a matter of seeding, and ALOT can happen

I don’t think either of us are getting a first round bye despite the math. The Vikings aren’t going to lose out.

With that said, one of us is likely going to be the 3 or 4 seed, and the other the 5 or 6…there are too many teams still in the hunt to list the scenarios that could play out here, but it’s just as likely that we’re playing Arizona or Green Bay as it is playing each other.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 22, 2009 10:09 PM CST up reply actions

Reason why the East is always competitive

Big markets (NY, DC, PHL, DAL) have big pockets. More money to invest in top scouts, coaches, and top players in FA. Would anyone be willing to switch Dallas out and get them in the NFC West and have an easier path to get to the playoffs? I hate how tough it is for the Cowboys every single, stinking year, but the drama is great, ain’t it?

by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Dec 22, 2009 1:35 PM CST reply actions

ur right

by Toughquestions on Dec 22, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions

realignment

If memory serves, the last time the NFL went through realignment Jerry Jones (who was and is a very influential and powerful owner) absolutely insisted that Dallas remain in the NFC East both to protect the rivalries and also to make sure that the Dallas Cowboys continued to get maximum exposure in the huge eastern markets. From a pure geographic standpoint, it doesn’t make very much sense to group Dallas in the East….unless of course you view Dallas’ home territory as all of America!

Anyway, I’d be very much against moving out of the east. I was raised hating the Redskins and it would suck to not play them every year. Realignment will again raise it’s ugly head when a team moves to LA from somewhere far away. Then the NFL will have the same type of situation as when the Cardinals were in the NFC East.

by Cowboy.Louie on Dec 22, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions

I was at the latest Eagles/Giants game

and a Giants fan (pissed after the loss) remarked that the NFC East isn’t even close to the toughest division…

At the time you guys hadn’t beaten the Saints, and he didn’t think that any of us could match up to ‘the good teams’

I had to reply that we’re DEFINITELY the toughest division BECAUSE we don’t have a 13-0, 11-1 team. We’re coming into week 16 and three teams could realistically tie in overall record at the top of the division…where else does that happen?

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 22, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions

Agree

with a 31-25 W/L-Ratio, the NFC East is only one of two (AFC South, 35-21) divisions with a winning record. Our combined 177 scoring differential is better than any other division. No other division has a third ranked team with as many wins as the Giants.

by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2009 4:08 AM CST up reply actions

And no other division

could potentially send three teams to the playoffs

by Billito on Dec 23, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions

almost every year

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 23, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions

Its nowhere near a sure thing

and that “its hard to beat a team 3 times in one year” thing is garbage.

I just want us to make the playoffs. After the 44-6 embarassment, we will have enough mental ammunition to keep us fired up in 3 games against philly.

by foyesboys on Dec 22, 2009 3:33 PM CST reply actions

I would rather play Philly at home if we beat them week 17

more than play the Packers first round period. I like our chances against Philly ESPECIALLY if we already beat them twice. The main thing is remember 07 Giants and the final game of last year. Put it all out on the field and let the Eagle fans shut their mouth… At least for a few months.

Marine by trade, Cowboys fan by birth.

by Mac_24 on Dec 22, 2009 4:31 PM CST reply actions

Our Team should just worry about the Redskins and not all this talk.

Let the Eagles and their fans think they have it all in the bag. They are seriously acting as if the Bronco game is a W, when that game is big for both teams. If we play them with the playoffs at stake , then the better things will be. Beat the Redskins first and then we can talk all the other nonsense .

"When people talk about Super Bowl dynasties they mention the 1970's Steelers, 1980's 49ers, 1990's Cowboys and the current New England Patriots, but nobody has dominated the Super Bowl like Anheuser-Busch. In recent years, Budweiser has been the MVP of Super Bowl advertising -- making another company the favorite to win the Ad Meter poll was never an option."

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by dubious on Dec 22, 2009 9:30 PM CST reply actions

What scares me

is you’re right. We’re all assuming a win over Denver, because we’re all focused on not getting swept by you guys. I just hope the team is paying attention to Denver!

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 22, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions

Our team most likely is focussed on the Skins

but why does that mean fans cannot look at the bigger picture?

So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!

by aussie_cowboy on Dec 23, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions

we looked at the bigger picture last year and

had our hearts broken. I was at the last game at Texas Stadium and on those two runs , You could just feel the air sucked out of our lungs. It was dead silence. Well except for the lady , 2 rows down from me yelling the same comment " We have to win the game" about 100 times lol. You can get excited but until we prove otherswise with this group , I will just wait and see after this game :)

"When people talk about Super Bowl dynasties they mention the 1970's Steelers, 1980's 49ers, 1990's Cowboys and the current New England Patriots, but nobody has dominated the Super Bowl like Anheuser-Busch. In recent years, Budweiser has been the MVP of Super Bowl advertising -- making another company the favorite to win the Ad Meter poll was never an option."

Simon Noble

by dubious on Dec 23, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions

I actually expect the Packers to lose to the Cardinals in week 17

and put 3 teams from the East into the playoffs. We get the Giants at home in the wild card game and after beating them go to Arizona to punch a ticket to the NFC Championship. The Vikings would beat the Saints in the divisional round and we get to host the NFC Championship against the Vikings. Its possible but first we have to win the next 2.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=custom&15=11000041&16=55055505

by Kansas Cowboy on Dec 22, 2009 9:56 PM CST reply actions

You realise that it is completely illogical

to suggest that winning in week 17 is less likely because we have already beaten the Eagles once right?

So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!

by aussie_cowboy on Dec 23, 2009 12:20 AM CST reply actions

Only partly

I get your point completely, and in certain circumstances, I agree. If you won because your game-plan was better or your personnel packages were better, than the chances of you repeating a victory are good. I would expect you to beat the Raiders every time (can’t say that for my Eagles though:)…HOWEVER,

If the win was the result of chance, or a play that could have gone either way, or if the teams are just really evenly matched, then it becomes much tougher to predict.

I see our games in that second category. Anything can happen, one play here, one play there…(If Donovan had gotten the 1st down on that sneak where some refs have admitted they would have given it to him etc…) anything can happen. It doesn’t take away from your win at all, you earned it, but I think your win was a matter of having the higher score when the clock wound down. I don’t think you out coached us, and I think the talent on each of our rosters is pretty evenly matched.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 23, 2009 8:11 AM CST up reply actions

all that to say

I think each game stands alone rather than any previous one being a predictor for the next.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 23, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions

And that is exactly what I said.

I didn;t state that we would win because we did previously. I just stated that because we won the first game, that does not make it more likely that you will win the second.

each game stands alone rather than any previous one being a predictor for the next

So I had to establish the rules and regulations of the game...85!

by aussie_cowboy on Dec 23, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions

Gotcha

I’m with you. There were some guys on here arguing that you would be MORE likely to beat us because you did once already, I guess I thought you were trying to say the same thing.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 24, 2009 7:28 AM CST up reply actions