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Looks like the Redskins ARE the key to the Division, (for Dallas anyway)..?

 

On November 20, I posted this prior to the first Redskins meeting:

 

Are the Redskins the Key to the Division

One key thought from this post was this here:

 

Conventional wisdom would seem to favor the Cowboys, Eagles and Giants all splitting their season series with each other; this would make all three of them 2-2 in the division when removing the Redskin games.  I personally believe that these match ups are going to work a little differently this year in that the Eagles are going to sweep the Giants; the Giants will sweep Dallas, and the Cowboys will sweep the Eagles, but end result is the same; 2-2 for each of those 3 in the division minus the Redskins games.


Star-divide

The other key thought was this:

 

The tricky part then remains who is going to lose to the Redskins because mark my words someone will. No team has ever gone winless in NFC East match ups and it's not going to happen this year either. I think it's reasonable to assume that the team (or teams) that loses to the Redskins will miss out on the divisional crown this year.

 

Well the Giants and Eagles have already swept the ‘skins which leaves us with Dallas, and you better believe that Redskin nation would love nothing more than to undo the Cowboys season; there is nobody they hate more.  The Cowboys are the Redskins last hope of avoiding an 0-6 record in the division.

 

The question I have is; have the Redskins already packed it in for the year?  Has the level of dysfunction in the front office become so bad that they no longer even try on the field?  Up until last night they had at least been competitive in back to back to back losses to Dallas, Philly and New Orleans before beating the crap out of the Raiders.  I even thought they had a solid chance at an upset last night; instead I awake this morning to discover they suffered a 45-12 beat down.  Are the Giants just that good now?

 

The keys to this game are similar to the last time these two met.  Dallas needs to score early and often, if they don’t and they let the Redskins hang around, we could be in for another frustrating dog fight but this time Shaun Suisham is on the Cowboys sideline.  Yikes.  If the Cowboys get off to a quick 14-0 lead (like they did against New Orleans last Saturday) then the Redskins will pack their bags and sign off on this game and Dallas should win rather easily.  However, if this turns into another 7-6 affair it could very well be the other sideline celebrating when the final gun sounds.

 

As a side note:

 

I’ve noticed that the Redskins have started wearing their dark jerseys at home this season.  I must say this bums me out a bit.  It just doesn’t feel like a, Cowboys at Redskins game without seeing Dallas in the rarely seen blue jerseys.  Here’s to hoping the ‘skins go old school this Sunday and wear the white jerseys. 

 

 

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not me, I hate our blue unis

and the Skins certainly look like they’re packing it in for this season if their game against the GMen is any indication.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 22, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions  

No way, Blue is better imop

the white jerseys are worn way to often.

"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"

by sprewelllatrell on Dec 22, 2009 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah

i love it when the blue is on, its rare, maybe only twice in a season do we wear them. This season we wore the throwbacks twice though

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Dec 22, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I like our throwback unis

I’d rather wear them than our regular blue unis

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 22, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I love the white jerseys...

That’s the classic Dallas Cowboys look.

But, I love having those two games per season where they’re forced into the blue jerseys (one of which always used to be at Washington).

There was a time when the only time one of those teams wore their dark jerseys was when they were on the road against the other.

The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.

by gee-roj on Dec 22, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Only one Blue jersey is legit

The 90’s alternate jersey with the stars on the shoulders…hell yeah baby!

by elFURIOSOpozo on Dec 22, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I like the 90's alternative unis as well

I wouldn’t have minded if that look had become permanent.

The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.

by gee-roj on Dec 22, 2009 6:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

is it just me

but I’ve always dreaded the Cowboys wearing the blue unis because until recently they always seemed to lose when they wore them

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by MayurP on Dec 22, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

the dreaded blue uni curse

I remember it so well

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 23, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

yup

just like the dreaded Cowboys Hall of Fame curse.

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by MayurP on Dec 23, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

That curse seems to be lifting a bit

2006 – Aikman and Rayfield Wright
2007 – Irvin
2009 – Bob Hayes
2010 – Emmitt
2011 – Deion Sanders
2013 – Larry Allen

by DavidH22 on Dec 24, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah? Well.....

I said in my post “6 more games or Are we raelly the worst 7-3 team” that we would beat the Saints.

Think I was the first one to call it. I mean, since we’re al doing “I told ya so” lately.

:-P

JERRY: I worked a club in Dallas one time and they couldn't afford to pay me so they gave me these. Oh, I can't wear these! They look ridiculous!

KRAMER: Ah, you look like a cowboy! Huh?

JERRY: But I don't wanna be a cowboy!

by HEpennypacker on Dec 22, 2009 1:31 PM CST reply actions  

i agree...

IF we start quick and get the crowd OUT of it, we go on to win easy… however, we give them momentum early, but turnover or 3 and outs, etc.. they will ‘think’ they can win and that is dangerous for a Redskin / Cowboy game.

i also have to belive that they are so embarassed by what the Giants did to them they will want to come out and try to redeem themselves….

by stephena on Dec 22, 2009 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

Agree

I’ve been to too many Skins Cowboys games here in DC to think they’ll just roll over – they never do for us…wish they would, though…

by Cal in DC on Dec 24, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Like you and others already have said..

If we come out and curb stomp them early (similar to the Saints game) and don’t let up, they will fold like a cheap tent. All of their past sins this season will be forgiven by their fans if they win. It will salvage their fans and teams pride. We cannot let that happen.

by Benthere on Dec 22, 2009 1:57 PM CST reply actions  

This games gonna be a war

we’re not winning in washington easy. I think this comes down to the defense needing to hold washington under 17. I think the offense will be ok. Its not gonna be as easy as many of our fans think. The Giants just seem to have the redskins number, thats not the case with us. They’ll come out playing hard for Zorn. Its their superbowl.

by foyesboys on Dec 22, 2009 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

The Skins hated Dallas BEFORE the Cowboys were an NFL team..

When ole Corrine sold their fight song to Clint Murchison so he could get George Marshall’s vote the Redskin nation orbited and it’s been ‘on’ every since. Now I believe the primary reason for the general competitiveness of division rivals is one builds a team to compete first in his division otherwise they’ll never compete in the league. We match-up pretty well with all of the NFC East teams so anything can happen on the way to the playoffs…the Cowboys best be on full alert because I see the Skins up for this one.

by Keys80 on Dec 22, 2009 4:37 PM CST reply actions  

I am stationed in DC right now. Trust me

they are packing there bags. They don’t even fight or joke around anymore about football. Kinda depressing. The media here has also been riding them since about week 3. And I mean hard. It’s pretty bad here, but not as a Cowboy fan! Can’t wait for the game.

Marine by trade, Cowboys fan by birth.

by Mac_24 on Dec 22, 2009 4:44 PM CST reply actions  

*their bags*

Marine by trade, Cowboys fan by birth.

by Mac_24 on Dec 22, 2009 4:45 PM CST reply actions  

Sure looked like it

Before the MNF debacle, I was a bit uneasy about the Foreskins mounting one last monumental effort against Dallas. But after watching the putrid effort they put forth against another division rival, I’m pretty sure the Boys are going to go into Fed-Ex and beat the tar out of them.

I just hope no one gets hurt, and by no one I mean Romo specifically. Orakpo could give Flo some trouble.

Drago says, "We must break you!"

by APerfectStar on Dec 23, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd love to see them melt down

but I won’t believe it til I see it.

Mac_24 and I get to revel in the “total drama island” that is Skins football operations. They are tremendously disfunctional and lately have radically complicated their playcalling similar to the bureacracy required in the new Healtchare Bill – but they always seem to rise to the occasion when we come to town – sort of like Army Navy Game!

by Cal in DC on Dec 24, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

The Giants are not that good

The Redskins are just that bad. Which is weird, considering they’ve been playing decent football the last several weeks.

But hey, 4-10 (if that’s their record) has to be indicative of something, right?

2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: not 11-5 :(
2009-2010 Dallas Mavericks: 57-25

by Grady90 on Dec 22, 2009 8:20 PM CST reply actions  

are they?

The Giants get a pass rush..they ARE that good.

And how come the Redskins are that bad..when they were supposedly ‘so good’ before they played the Giants

They have the Redskins number too lately (kinda like Philly with the Giants right now).

They play the Cowboys a lot tougher for whatever reason. Will they beat the Cowboys? Dunno…but I expect them to play better Sunday night, they always do against Dallas (or at least lately).

"It ain't over till its over"---

3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.

"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 22, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I am going to offer my perspective on what I saw in that game. Note this is just my two cents.

The giants measured up the skins and landed a solid head shot to the zombie skins. The giants had two very good drives in the 1st quarter against them and after that they looked like they quit; the effort was not there as a team. Sure, they had a few individuals fighting the good fight but the overall team just packed it in because the giants came to play and left no room for the skins to crawl back out of their hole. So I give full credit to the giants playing solid football that took the fight out of the skins that pushed them to the point of no return.

I think your team showed the blue print in how to avoid the zombies from rising up again, dallas has to be agressive and build up a lead to take the fight out of them early. If dallas lets them linger it could be a replay of the 1st meeting between dallas and the skins. I do think that the internal strife and the coaching interview news about how they are going to replace zorn took the will out of the skins because they were not willing to fight for a lame duck coach. But your team was able to give them such a steep climb that they just decided to lay down after the 1st half.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Dec 22, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree..

yet all I’m saying, the Giants have had the blueprint for years.

They’ve beaten the hell out of Washington the past few years…the scores really don’t tell 1/4 of the story.

They always play the Cowboys extremely tough. regardless of the blueprint.

They ‘get up’ for the Dallas game more then the Giants do.

Its all about the first couple possessions, I agree. The longer Wash. stays in it…they’ll have a chance.

And the fact they don’t have Suisham any more (and you do?…) gives them even more of a chance.

"It ain't over till its over"---

3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.

"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 23, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

"They ‘get up’ for the Dallas game more then the Giants do"

Not this time. It usually is like that. Just look at my post below. Not this time

Marine by trade, Cowboys fan by birth.

by Mac_24 on Dec 23, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

once they get on that field...

I doubt that man.

One radio show doesn’t display their pride.

They won’t be playing here if they give up….Bruce Allen will just be a ‘former boss’.

Giants have their number. Dallas..while winning…usually doesn’t handle them as easily.

The Cowboys will probably win, but I doubt it’ll be so easy.

"It ain't over till its over"---

3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.

"I just saw Avatar, and Sean Avery was hands down the best character!"

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 23, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

be careful

i throuht the same about washington and they played well vs denver

okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule

by j-man on Dec 24, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

The Giants played well but that wasn't the same Redskins

of the last 3 or 4 weeks. I really think the NO loss just put a sour taste in their mouth. That being said, Dallas better be on their A game because they will play alot better this week. The Redskins always play the Cowboys tougher for w/e reason. It won’t be a blowout but we should prevail. No one should be looking past the Redskins cause if so we are in trouble. I just can’t see them playing that badly again.

Again , hats off to the Giants but there is no way you are that good. Btw did the Redskins even show up? I was watching replays on the NFLN and guys were just gving up on the play and not even trying at times.

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by dubious on Dec 22, 2009 9:25 PM CST reply actions  

I'm telling you

The have Jason Cambell on the radio every week. He said basically all this non football stuff is affecting them. And Orakpo comes on every week too and he just sounds straight up depressed about the team. He says there’s no leaderhip and he might have to step up and do it cause they aren’t performing. They also think Albert is a crybaby. Kinda like the Ward/Roethlisberger thing.

Anyways, they talk about “DALLAS WEEK” all week before there last game, but they don’t even care anymore. They went on and on about records out the window blah blah last time. But nothing this week. They care more about Bruce Allen and Vinny Cerrato. One guy even said, “Do you even notice it’s Dallas week” and another said “who cares”. If thats any indication of the mindset then we should walk out with a W.

Marine by trade, Cowboys fan by birth.

by Mac_24 on Dec 23, 2009 10:55 AM CST reply actions  

I would love nothing more than the Redskins as a doormat to the Cowboys playoff door

2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: not 11-5 :(
2009-2010 Dallas Mavericks: 57-25

by Grady90 on Dec 24, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

...and they were

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by Mac_24 on Dec 30, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

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