Playoff Picture

by 325424 on Dec 28, 2009 12:30 PM CST

First, it's great to be back in the tournament.

Now, having said that, what does the draw look like?

CosbySweater outlined the steps that would be required for Dallas to get the #2 seed and accompanying buy. I am going under the assumption that Minnesota doesn't lose out (while hoping that they do).

If Dallas wins this weekend they clinch the division b/c a 2-0 head to head record vs Philly.

If Arizona loses, that makes us the 3 seed (11-5 vs. 10-6).

If Arizona wins, we should STILL get the 3 seed on the strength of victory tiebreaker (I think we will have beaten teams w/69 wins vs. 62 wins for the teams the Cardinals beat, but there is still a weekend left).

CORRECTION: AZ owns the tie breaker over us, so if we both win they are 3rd and we are 4th.

As the 3 seed, we play the #6 seed, which is Philly if GB wins (with both guys at 11-5 GB wins on the record vs common foes) If we win and AZ wins then we are the 4 seed and Philly is the 5 seed.

If Dallas loses, then we are on the road in Philly b/c GB has a tiebreaker over us.

so...

Dallas Wins

GB Wins PHI @ Dallas

AZ Wins PHI @ Dallas

Dallas Loses

GB Wins @ PHI

AZ Wins @ PHI

This reminds me of 2007 when we swept NYG in the regular season then lost the third game.

I think its tough to beat a NFC eastern foe three times.

I STAND CORRECTED, IT APPEARS ALL ROADS LEAD TO ROUND 3 OF DAL / PHI.

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If that is how you feel then you need to pull for the boys to win and the cards to win as well.

Personally I would love dallas to have another crack at those f#$^(ing peckers; I want the defense to put rodgers in traction and start a new streak of GB QBs that cannot win in dallas.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Dec 28, 2009 12:45 PM CST reply actions

I'm pretty sure the Cards have the tie breaker on us if we finish both at 11-5

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 28, 2009 1:05 PM CST reply actions

I thought the Cards also had the tie breaker over us and we were destined to see Philly twice

by Travlr on Dec 28, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions

I'm about 90% certain you're right

by robolundgren on Dec 28, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions

well

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
Two Clubs

Head-to-head, if applicable. N / A
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. BOTH WOULD BE 9-3
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four. ONLY 2 (Broncos / Seahawks)
Strength of victory. I THINK WE GET THEM HERE
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in conference games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss.

by 325424 on Dec 28, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions

The 3rd tiebreaker is record in common games

We would finished tied for the 2nd tiebreaker with 9-3 conference records if we both win.

The common opponents are: Giants, Seattle, Green Bay, Carolina

We are 2-3 in those games. They (if they beat Green Bay) would be 4-1

The would get #3 seed.

by mhuff13 on Dec 28, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions

you are right

i forgot that GB would be the 4th common opponent.

by 325424 on Dec 28, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions

I would be happy to be wrong

GB in our house would be my favorite first round scenario

by Travlr on Dec 28, 2009 1:16 PM CST reply actions

If we win ad GB wins

we have a better record than AZ and GB has a better common games record than philly. Hence we play philly again in 3 vs 6 matchup

by foyesboys on Dec 28, 2009 1:37 PM CST reply actions

If we win and AZ wins

AZ has the tiebraker over us in common games because of the ****** giants and we play philly in 4 vs 5 matchup

by foyesboys on Dec 28, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions

What scenario is needed to have dallas win the division and face the peckers in th WC round?

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Dec 28, 2009 1:55 PM CST reply actions

Pretty sure there isn't a scenario that does this

by mhuff13 on Dec 28, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions

if

minnesota loses twice and the cards beat the packers…i think we face GB and Minny faces philly. AZ gets the bye

by foyesboys on Dec 28, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions

Correct

by Travlr on Dec 28, 2009 2:31 PM CST reply actions

What it comes down to...

Is Go Bears and Giants. Two Minnesota losses (and a Boys win) put us the best positions regardless of the Green Bay/Arizona outcome. (Facing the Packers at home or a bye)

by TexaninNYC on Dec 28, 2009 2:50 PM CST reply actions

The only way we DON'T play Philly again in Round 1...

is if Minnesota loses one of its last two games. If Minnesota wins out, then we are guaranteed to play Philly in consecutive weeks. The only difference is where the game will be played. If we win, we basically play Week 17 all over again, but for much higher stakes. If we lose, then we traipse up to Lincoln Field for the rematch.

Curiously, GB plays Arizona this week, and is almost guaranteed to play them again in Round 1.

Now, Minnesota can screw up this incredibly bizaare scheduling quirk by losing one or both of its remaining games. If it loses one, and Philly beats us, then Philly get the #2 seed, and we play at Minnesota in Round 1. But if Minnesota loses both games, and we beat Philly, then we could be the the #2 seed with an Arizona loss. However, if Minny loses both, we beat Philly, but Arizona beats GB, then we would still play Philly, as Minny would be the #4 seed, and GB is locked into the #5 seed.

by DannyWhite on Dec 28, 2009 5:54 PM CST reply actions