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FISH on FOOTBALL: A Cowboys Top Ten Takes Featuring Tony Romo's 'Turtle Shell'

Top Ten Takes on Cowboys-Giants, a FISH on FOOTBALL examination that includes "happy faces,'' "dirtbags,'' "December talk'' and Tony Romo's "turtle shell.''

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1. I want to paint a happy face on the performance/potential of Felix Jones.

It's not going to be easy - he totaled nine touches, 19 yards and 1,900 references to him by Aikman and Buck as Dallas' "home-run hitter" - but I shall try:

Let's do it within the context of the Roy Williams TD catch that put Dallas up 17-14. Rafael describes it in beautiful detail here, and I'll coattail on that: Miles Austin in the backfield? A fresh look. Marion Barber as a sort of "fullback''? Nice wrinkle. Two tight ends? Suggests a run.  Play-fake handoff to Barber? Good enough to draw attention at the point of attack. A pitch-out left to Austin? Wait, that's a fake, too! And finally, on second-and-goal from the 3, Roy Williams working in the confined spaces of the red zone for the touchdown catch.

Timing and precision and detail and execution, all designed with a very specific goal in mind.

Look for the Cowboys to apply the same philosophies to get Felix Jones untracked.

2. Three quick personnel notes:

*Anthony Spencer had a fine, impactful game. But I did not know that he was slower than Brandon Jacobs.

*Mike Jenkins is now almost good enough to earn the coveted title of "cover corner.''

*Some guys' performances are diluted by big contracts. Jay Ratliff? He seems to play every down as if he's trying to re-earn it.

3. I've defended Flozell Adams at most every turn this year ... even as some of those turns have turned nasty. There are logical reasons for the false starts and there are justifiable explanations for the tripping penalties.

But the half-ending brawl apparently triggered by Flo's cheap shot on rival Justin Tuck? I can't figure out what gives here.

Tuck is now calling Adams a "dirtbag.'' In context - and without knowing if Tuck did anybody to precipitate the incident - I see his point.

Adams is now calling Tuck a "nobody.'' And that cannot be true, inasmuch as Tuck is a co-star in those opera-singing Subway commercials with Jared. And they don't give Subway commercials to "nobodies.''

Unless you count Jared himself.

4. Folks are hesitant to say such a thing around here because of the heroic nature of special-teams coach Joe DeCamilis' presence, but ...

The kicking game suddenly sucks.

*Rookie David Buehler's touchbacks are disappearing. Four touchbacks in the last five games? Is that right? Add it up, even take into consideration the weather circumstances at Giants Stadium, and remember that's an entire roster spot being used on a kid who is suddenly not consistently booming it to the back of the end zone. He hit the endzone 7-out-of-7 times against Seattle, and he's still among the league leaders, and he's now got a bum toe. So let's stay hopeful that David gets this fixed.

*Nick Folk is a mess. When he missed that 42-yarder in the fourth, it did more than prevent Dallas from being down just 21-20. It drained the life out of a Cowboys team that was on the border of buoyancy because it has just converted on third-and-14. Is that four straight games in which he's missed a FG? Is Mat McBriar an inferior holder? When is enough enough?

*Patrick Watkins used to be known for his special-teams braincramps and he suffered one again on Domenik Hixon's crushing 79-yard punt return. Watkins was supposed to keep containment, let his focus wander ... and next thing you know, Hixon wanders 79 yards.

You can't kick field goals, you can't kick off and you can't cover ... I won't harp on the botched onsides-kick attempt, because that's so hit-and-miss ... but if you can't do those first three things, which shouldn't be hit-and-miss, there ain't much left.

5. I think my media brothers were relentlessly rough on Wade Phillips in his Monday presser. He says "Our guys are winners,'' and reporters badger him to offer "proof.'' Guys, what would you have Wade say about his 8-4 team? That it is something less than "winning''?

6. Regarding Marion Barber's screen-pass fumble: the Giants knew they were livin' right on that play. NY's Mathias Kiwanuka, allowed freedom from a poor Leonard Davis block, did not seem to really be trying to tackle the ball; it just sorta squirted loose from Barber. Then it's picked up by NY "star'' Osi Umenyiora, who'd been benched for this game but was in there as a specialist. His recovery sets up a 28-yard TD drive, makes it a game, and makes the Giants believe that even their gaffes are gifts.

7. At the risk of being a Cowboys-rootin' Pollyanna: The Cowboys had a chance to turn this into a laugher. Seriously.

Dallas was up 10-0, and the Giants - who have over the last five weeks struggled as badly as almost any team in the NFL - had to be mired in self-doubt. With 3:14 remaining in the first half, Bobby Carpenter blitzes. He's going to get a sack, the Cowboys are going to score again, and Dallas will take a 13-0 or 17-0 edge into intermission.

But Carpenter can't quite hold onto Eli Manning, who survives the pressure to somehow flip the ball to tight end Kevin Boss. He rumbles for a 16-yard gain, three plays later the Giants score, and the blowout that was ... wasn't.

8. Dallas' tackling - especially from its safeties - was a problem a year ago at this time, and I don't know, maybe the cold weather doesn't agree with the fellas, but Gerald Sensabaugh and Alan Ball had problems in this department.

I think arm tackling demonstrates a lack of "want-to.'' Don't you?

9. Valley Ranch filing cabinets are loaded with evidence that says the Cowboys are better than the Giants.

Consider Tony Romo's day: 41 completions, 55 attempts and 391 yards passing! (Too bad he missed Roy on a potential TD pass when the Cowboys were down 31-17 with four minutes left ... and the intentional-grounding hurt. ... but that's nitpicky, right?) Compare him to Eli Manning; take away Eli's dump to Brandon Jacobs that became the longest, slowest touchdown of the year, and Eli did nothing.

Or consider the raw data: The Cowboys won in turnover ratio, time-of-possession, total yards, third-down conversions, you name it.

But still - again - the supposedly inferior team won.

Why?

10. Well, don't dismiss December talk.

"We don't care about December talk,'' said Romo, trying to dismiss December talk. ... and fibbing about it.

They do care. They do know. Romo actually said the criticism has caused him to develop a "turtle shell,'' which is a rather cute word-picture. Up next on the schedule, the division-leading Chargers and the undefeated Saints. Let's see if the Cowboys pull their heads out. ... of their shells.

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hey cool 1st

AND I read the article!

I haven’t lost faith yet, a win this week would help a lot tho…

by goldnboi7 on Dec 8, 2009 6:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

damn...too slow lol

at least I got to enjoy another Fish offering…good work, man!

by goldnboi7 on Dec 8, 2009 6:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoy the Fish articles

And he has direct access to players which makes this blog’s excellent style get some mainstream first person type insight.

Don’t want too much mainstream understand, but his writing is an excellent complement to Grizz and Raf (who I followed here from the blog that dares not speak its name)

by Travlr on Dec 8, 2009 6:13 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

It's official...

Flozell Adams will not be suspended, which is an absolute joke.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Dec 8, 2009 6:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

don't mind Dawk...

he is obsessed with the ‘Boys, that’s why he trolls the site.

by fiverings37 on Dec 8, 2009 7:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

anyone else see suisham get cut

(havent read this article so if he mentions it dont kill me)

i find it interesting they cut him, but folk’s job is apparently as secure as Wade’s. Take that statement for what it’s worth.

"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."

-Ari Gold

by Young Wiz on Dec 8, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

dont know Suisham's situation, but

Folk is doinking an legitimate excuse (McBriar is not a consistent holder). Unless we sign back Brad Johnson to hold I have no solution to his woes

by dcfanz on Dec 8, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

according to Mosley

he was consistant all year but has just recently missed a few, the latest of course was the game sealer against the Saints.

"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."

-Ari Gold

by Young Wiz on Dec 8, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

re-signing Brad Johnson is not too crazy of an idea

that would put our ST specialist tally to what like 5 lol

"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."

-Ari Gold

by Young Wiz on Dec 8, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

plus we could have flo push him to the ground before every game

and get it out of his system

"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."

-Ari Gold

by Young Wiz on Dec 8, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Felix is being under-used and over-used simultaneously

Take the play that Fish mentioned. It worked because Garrett has ran the fake dive pitch to Austin a few times and knew the Giants would be ready for it if Austin motioned into the backfield. However, it didn’t seem like he takes the same approach with Felix. I forget who said it, but they were right in saying that sometimes the threat of a big-play guy is more affective then the actual plays he makes.

I am one of the people who has called for more screens to Felix, but it sure looked like the Giants were ready for any play that went his way, save one that went for about 10 or so I believe. I would have liked to see them use more play fakes, fake pitches, fake screens (when he’s in the slot would be the most realstic time for that). So while we know he needs more touches, I think there are times when he would be an affective decoy.

"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."

-Ari Gold

by Young Wiz on Dec 8, 2009 7:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

call me crazy, but the obvious underutilizing of our RBs

(see Choice 2 caries), got to be by design. Maybe Garrett is hiding plays for the playoffs

by dcfanz on Dec 8, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he better start unveiling them

Because with that loss, plus our remaining schedule, the playoffs aren’t exactly a guarantee.

"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee

by BigDinSC on Dec 8, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

or for when he's HC

nah i’ve actually had that same thought a lot times, but it’s a big gamble because right now they need those plays to get into the playoffs. It’s like slow playing aces. Maybe he will open it up more in the next few weeks against two teams with high powered offenses.

"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."

-Ari Gold

by Young Wiz on Dec 8, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about Garret.

But, Wade needs to open up his bag of tricks.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Dec 8, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

actually i think if you rewatch the play, if bradie james hadn’t started running in from of spencer on that brandon jacobs play, spencer would have caught him. watch as spencer runs around bradie and the giants TE and then caught all the way back up to jacobs to push him in the back

by mahuebel on Dec 8, 2009 7:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Spencer still took a bad angle

it looked like he clearly underestimated Jacobs’ speed and thought he could get to him for a short gain, while he could have gone more upfield and certainly stopped him for about a 10 yard gain.

"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."

-Ari Gold

by Young Wiz on Dec 8, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1
it looked like he clearly underestimated Jacobs’ speed

So did I.

Spencer played an overall good game once again, but that one mistake on the angle taken towards Jacobs turned out to be a big one.

You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.

by APerfectStar on Dec 8, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it was absolutely a mistake

but there is just no way you can expect that mistae to go for a 70 yard td. 9 time out of 10, if you take a poor angle on the rb, thats a ~20~40 yard play. Just not on that play with the way the defense was moving.

by foyesboys on Dec 10, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

I finally saw the replay broken down and there was no one on that side of the field after Spencer. Sensabaugh was covering the TE deep down the seem, and that was it.

You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.

by APerfectStar on Dec 11, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you are being a bit too harsh on Bye_Dawk..

He is a good guy..He visits our site also..He is not a Troll..So leave him alone and be glad that you have a decent guy/fan making comments that are non-derogatory…It gives us all a feeling on how other fans think about things..Correct me if I am wrong, but I have never read a comment from him that rubbed me the wrong way here or on my site.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 8, 2009 8:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Really bobbiblue?

I have posted on the Philly site and been blasted in the past by him and others with major cussing. I am ok with him but dont be hypocritical. He is right now posting with Giants fans about how crappy Dallas is and thats ok with me. Just don’t make it seem how bad all of us are and how perfect both fans of the Giants and Eagles. Opposing fans should post here and will get respect from me but will it go both ways? Not in a million years as us posting our opinions in other sites like the philly one. I have been cursed so bad in that site for not agreeing with their logic that its laughable.

by dubious on Dec 8, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Scand..do you really think that guy is a Troll?

and the last thing I stuck up anyones @..Was a 3200 lb laser guide bomb from my F-117A back in ’91.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 8, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

people with different opinions aren;t trolls

if we all had the same opinion that wouldn’t be any fun. Can you imagine a night at the dinner table where everyone felt the same about every subject? That would be so boring and what would you talk about after the first 5 minutes of everyone agreeing with each other?

by dubious on Dec 8, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

People with different opinions aren't necessarily trolls

but Bye Dawk is the very definition of the term. Whenever the Cowboys lose he is here to post something annoying or to agree with Montecito Tex (which is even more annoying)

by Omer on Dec 8, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Works for me

as long as the subjects are;

Do we need more booze?
Do we need more steak?
Do we need more bacon?

Conan!, What is good in Football?!

Daa.... to run between the tackles,
To drive the linebackers before you,
And to hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders.

by The Pale Scot on Dec 9, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he is a troll

but his whole “argue a point, be proven wrong, argue semantics” act is getting a little old.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Dec 8, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He baits people. He has the vocabulary to do it without being crude, but

his behavior in Tex’s 600 reply monstrosity is all the proof I need.

by Fernie67 on Dec 8, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If not a troll

then he is a douche and yes, he has made insulting comments to plenty of people. Plus the guy never leaves and who wants the opinion of an eagle fan that much? Probably only eagle fans but sure as hell not cowboys fans on a cowboys site.

by Billito on Dec 8, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm throwing the yellow flag for illegal substitution.

Our largest LGBs were based on the Mk-84, a 2000lb bomb, and the fin assy and LGB nose assy might approach 200lbs together; then again, instant replay might show something entirely different.

by GalTex on Dec 10, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry GalTex..The ruling on the field stands..The LGBs were 3250 lbs..

and we built a few larger ones for bunker attacks…they had no impact because we found that bum in a dirt hole.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 11, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You deal with him as you wish on your site. We'll see with him as we see fit here. He's

a pot stirrer, pure and simple, and the fact that you aren’t bothered by what he says about the Cowboys isn’t exactly meaningful to me.

by Fernie67 on Dec 8, 2009 8:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's fair.Fernie..

I don’t care about what he has to say about the Giants either..and I only post on my site and your site..I can’t be bothered posting elsewhere..and there is a reason for that.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 8, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's some non-trolling love from your boyfriend
Haha, very good point. Won’t surprise me.

Still just a rumor at this point (and I only read it over at BTB by some idiot poster, so who knows?). Keep the faith, everyone. He has to get suspended, right? I mean… right?
by Bye, Dawk :( on Dec 8, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He must be addicted to us idiot posters because the douche won’t stay off our site for more than a 10 minute stretch.

by Billito on Dec 8, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Do we really need to treat him like they do us in their site?

we can be much more mature than that …..just my opinion. We shouldn’t let people bother us period. We are true fans talking about our team and I enjoy it.

by dubious on Dec 8, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If Cowboy fans are at other sites doing the same thing, they deserve the same

treatment, and I hope they get it. I cringe whenever I hear of a fan from this site making trouble elsewhere, and i don’t really get why they do it.

by Fernie67 on Dec 8, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Fernie posting opinions that differ from others is not stirring trouble unless those fans take everything

badly. I post good and bad opinions in other sites and no I am not there to stir trouble I just like talking to everyone not just fans of my team. So if I go to the Giants and say I disagree that he should be suspended, then I am there to stir trouble? Cmon man we take this to personal….its a blog site and we are here to talk football or sports for that matter.

by dubious on Dec 8, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

With all due respect, dubious, I know the difference between differing

opinions and baiting other posters. Feel free to look more closely at Bye, Dawk’s posting history; he’s earned the razzing he gets.

by Fernie67 on Dec 8, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know him that well as some of you might

so me responding on this might not be warranted :) I could be wrong in his case as I am not perfect by any means :)

by dubious on Dec 8, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

How bout dem Frogs!!!!

by DIRE WOLF on Dec 9, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm..interesting..but don't you ever call him my 'boyfriend'...

Did you ever serve in the armed forces belittle?..I did.. F-16s and F117As and a comment like that would have gotten you into a huge amount of jazz with me.
Now, I say again if that guy is insulting y’all then RAF can toss him out..So why don’t you spare yourselves from him and have him rocket-launched? (no pun intended). Don’t ever say something like that to me again.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 8, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tough guys on the internet

Look out!

You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.

by APerfectStar on Dec 8, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be sure to do that, Pops

You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.

by APerfectStar on Dec 8, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was just joking

You referred to me as son even though I bet we are close to the same age.

You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.

by APerfectStar on Dec 10, 2009 4:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait to have the walking farts.

I saw a dog today. Have you seen a dog? You probably have. How was school? Was it fun? Did you get a lot of homework? Huh? Do you have any friends? Do you have a best friend? Does he have a big coat, too?

by Aaron Novinger on Dec 10, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

True that!

I saw a dog today. Have you seen a dog? You probably have. How was school? Was it fun? Did you get a lot of homework? Huh? Do you have any friends? Do you have a best friend? Does he have a big coat, too?

by Aaron Novinger on Dec 10, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am ex Air Force too. E-3 Awacs hence the Avatar. You want to mess with another

Vet you can just mess with me too.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Dec 9, 2009 6:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to mess with an AWACs guy..

You guys were my eyes and ears..The ultimate wingman.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 9, 2009 8:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, settle down guys

I have nothing but respect for anyone who served in the armed forces and am not sure why you would think I don’t.

Sorry about the lame comment bobbiblue but you have no place coming onto a cowboys blog and telling us how to treat a troll. I should have phrased my comment better but my point remains that you are sticking your nose where it doesn’t belong and you don’t need to try and make that a personal attack because it isn’t.

by Billito on Dec 9, 2009 8:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Billito..Your absolutely right..

I have no business making a comment about a guy you all consider to be a troll..In retrospect, I have no knowledge of the exchanges and should not draw any conclusions on whether he is or isn’t a thorn in your side, obviously he must be..Actually, I find trolls rather entertaining in a way..Their value add is that they know nothing about the game of football, so you can play around with them..and they provide a little fun break from talking serious football stuff..but nonetheless, I apologize to you guys for stepping out of bounds so to speak regarding whom you determine is a troll..None of my business…bottomline.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 9, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good deal

and I have no problem with guys like you who post on other sites or anyone who wants to talk football but some people really get carried away and seem to love being the center of negative attention.

Again, I didn’t mean anything by my first comment, you are good in my book.

by Billito on Dec 9, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We're cool then..

I only post on my site..because I live in South Florida now and I need a fellow Giants fan fix..and I post here on BTB because my wife is a diehard Cowboy fan and I like to hear what fans of the other dominant team in the division have to say..I haven’t bothered going to any other sites..I believe it was ‘Dubious’ that stated he just gets hammered over on whatever that Philly site is..Who needs that?..I’ve commented with alot of really knowledgeable and good guys out here..and I enjoy it..and I think you guys enjoy hearing from me.You’ll never read an insult from me billito.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 9, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Where in South Florida?

I live in north Florida (St. Augustine actually) and I am supposed to be a Giants fan. I’m from Jersey and my dad graduated from Nebraska so he got me into the Knicks, Yankees and Cornhuskers. BUT, I used to spend every summer in San Antonio with my cousins in the seventies and they brainwashed me with the star and those scantily clad cheerleaders before my dad could get to me.

I also don’t consider myself bandwagon because I went to high school in Jersey and had to suffer through the late 80’s when the Giants were a powerhouse and the cowboys were a joke so I took my share of abuse before the three-ring run of the nineties.

by Billito on Dec 9, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We live in Port St Lucie, Billito..

Probably, roughly 200 miles South of you..St Augustine is a really nice town..I / we go there alot. That’s really cool how you became a Cowboy fan..I was weened on the Giants by my Father..sitting on his lap for the first six years..My wife is from Jersey..She grew up in Brigantine, I don’t know how she became a Cowboy fan, but she is..lol..It would be really cool to meet halfway and catch a game together sometime..I’d be outnumbered but that’s okay..lol

by Bobbiblue on Dec 9, 2009 7:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be cool

My brother and his family live in Jupiter so we usually get down there a few times a year. The only thing now is that my wife is almost 8 months pregnant so I don’t know how much travelling we’ll be doing in the near future.

Definitely love to get together sometime. Hopefully for the playoffs!!!

by Billito on Dec 10, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Congratulations!..Yes let's keep in touch..That would be fun

Is it a boy or girl?..If you guys have a boy I’ll begin training him to be a Giants fan…If it is a girl then your wife will have to train her to be a Cowboy cheerleader, my dancing moves have severely degraded…kidding (well not about the dancing moves..haha)….That is a great Christmas present on the way..You go right by us on the way to Jupiter..We’re about 2.5 miles east off of I-95.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 10, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's not brainwashing ...
BUT, I used to spend every summer in San Antonio with my cousins in the seventies and they brainwashed me with the star and those scantily clad cheerleaders before my dad could get to me.

… just sounds like good upbringin’ to me.

by GalTex on Dec 10, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't a hard sell

I was like 5 or 6 and my parents were divorced so I hadn’t really watched any football with my dad but my uncle and cousins are cowboy crazy so it only took a few visits with them for me to get the fever.

by Billito on Dec 11, 2009 6:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

As far as Flozell is concerned..

If he was on my team I wouldn’t defend him at all..Whatever happens with him I know the players across the league will take care of him and the Refs will be watching him closely.He’s eventually going to be ‘retired’ on the field.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 8, 2009 8:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

cool bobb that's the thing I look for in an opinion.

Bobb has there ever been a Giant that has played with aggression and done things not up to par with the league that you fans have defended? Just curious? Quick to be critical but do Giants fans really get on their own players for being stupid?

by dubious on Dec 8, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well I can't speak for everybody Dubious..

And I can’t think of a Giant or a Cowboy beyond Flozell that I could honestly criticise…I’ll have to think more about that..I’m sure we had our fair share of dirty players.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 8, 2009 9:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually have to agree with Fernie67...

This post sounds just like an Eagles fan (‘retired on the field’ – seriously?).

Its all good though because the truth is the biggest punk in the NFL plays for the Giants. Somehow though I would bet you would take up his cause if I suggested the Cowboys try to “retire him on the field.”

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Dec 8, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

did you defend jacobs a couple years ago?

when he was jamming his fingers into our defenders facemask after a play?

by foyesboys on Dec 10, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No I didn't defend him for that..Nor would I defend any runner pulling that crap..

The stiff arm is part of the game..always has been..but it is an open palm maneuver..When a runner gets into a defenders facemask then they should be flagged for it..I don’t care who it is..Minimally illegal use of hands..or personal foul.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 12, 2009 1:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, now you sound like a Philly fan. Hoping that a player gets a career-ending

injury? Thanks for showing me what you’re made of. I didn’t celebrate Tuck’s injury, despite the fact that I don’t for a second believe Adams intended for him to get hurt. Dude is old and slow, and he was trying to keep his QB from getting crushed. Don’t tell me you wouldn’t be all right with one of your O lineman doing the same to protect Eli. I didn’t celebrate Adams’s idiocy on Sunday, despite the fact that a shove in the back is hardly the worst thing I’ve ever seen on a football field. Saying I don’t think what he did should result in suspension is hardly a defense. It was stupid and hotheaded, and the league has my blessing to change the rule so the penalty can be assessed in the second half.

by Fernie67 on Dec 8, 2009 8:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You need to re-read my comment..your wrong..

I don’t want any player hurt..What I said was if he keeps this up the players in the league will stand up and dole out their own justice..I would never condone and never will condone a cheapshot the ends a players season or career..

by Bobbiblue on Dec 8, 2009 9:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I read it. Sounds like you're distinctly hopeful he'll get the vigilante "justice" the league

didn’t administer to your satisfaction. I seriously doubt the players in the league care that Adams shoved Tuck and hurt his feelings. On the other hand, if that’s not what you meant, it’s all good. Revel in all that outrage Bye, Dawk is encouraging for now, and then count on the fact that I’ll be rooting for the Giants to administer an ass whipping to the Eagles next weekend..

by Fernie67 on Dec 8, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Fernie maybe I wrote the comment wrong..

Flozell needs to get sat down and talked to..What I said was if he doesn’t clean up his act the players he faces will help him..I don’t want to see any athlete get hurt..but if he keeps this up there are alot of players out there that are not going to put up with him..If you noticed in the second half we had one guy just smashing into him..cleanly.every play they had a guy just hit him..How is that going to help the Cowboys?..Teams rendering him useless?

by Bobbiblue on Dec 8, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Believe me, I want him to clean up his act. Of course, I want him to be the player

he was a few years ago, too. “Smashing” into him “cleanly” on every play? Isn’t that what every defensive player should be aiming for on every down? But I’m guessing we’re not really talking about clean play, or it wouldn’t matter. If someone deliberately hurts him, here’s hoping fines and suspensions await, and I assume Bye, Dawk will support that, too, and cry for Flo. I’m totally positive he wasn’t one of those cheering when Michael Irvin was lying paralyzed on the turf at the Vet.

by Fernie67 on Dec 8, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why is everyone surprised by Jacobs' speed?

Without looking it up, I’m almost certain he went sub 4.5 at the combine. That’s haulin’ ass for a guy that size. And I’m not sure I’ve really ever seen him run down from behind.

OBSERVATION - EMOTION = COMMON SENSE

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Dec 8, 2009 9:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, a Giants fan pointed out to me today (while gloating obnoxiously) that Jacobs

ran a 4-something coming out of college. I hate that guy. Jacobs, not my annoying friend.

by Fernie67 on Dec 8, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

its funny really.

we know the Cowboys dislike the Eagles and vice versa and the Giants hate the Cowboys and vice versa. Whats funny is when we hear the players say it like we have never heard it before lol

by dubious on Dec 8, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ummmm I recall Ware catching many fast backs

and look at his size…….a man that size being able to run is called a freak of nature…….there are many now in the NFL

by dubious on Dec 8, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hes not fast side to side

but straight line speed (which he RARELY gets a chance to show off), jacobs is fast.

by foyesboys on Dec 10, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that could have been called a hold..

but these referee crews are screwing everything up this year..you can only hope that these idiotic calls balance out..the latest near screw up came last night in the GB- Ravens game.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 8, 2009 9:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Have to agree there. The refs have been more attrocious than I can recall in a long time.

I get the feeling they are letting instant replay and lack of accountability become a crutch. BTW do they have any accountability? Maybe the NFL needs to have full time professional refs, and not guys who sell cars during the week.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Dec 9, 2009 6:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Believe me, it kills that Romo had an amazing day and the Cowboys still lost.

What are the odds he throws for 400 yards, gets three TDs and no picks, and they lose? Sometimes it seems like the Cowboys are destined to lose in the weirdest ways possible.

by Fernie67 on Dec 8, 2009 10:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Romo did his job...We squashed the running game and the Cowboy defense had a bad day...so if anyone thinks..

Romo was to blame I’ll give them the universal high-sign..I am glad we won but these fools are already blaming his trip to Vegas…unreal

by Bobbiblue on Dec 8, 2009 10:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's weird how

Romo is nearly flawless and they score 24 but in the game he has 3 interceptions they score 31.. hmm.. their record when they rush for 100 yards and their record when they don’t are pretty telling stats. I understand that the Giaints were keyed in on the run game, and run blitzing and all that, but rushing for 250 yards is not a fluke. It’s still the Giants, and if you can only score 24 points when your QB throws for 390 and 3 td’s, you have to realize how important your running game is. And honestly, it’s really hard to expect Romo to keep close to that pace that he set. The last thing they can do is try to get into a shootout with Rivers. Garrett has to force the run this week imo.

"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."

-Ari Gold

by Young Wiz on Dec 9, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well..Romo did his job as I have said..

And I also said leading up to that game was that our guys needed to stop that awesome running game your guys have..Romo did his part..but you can light up a 500 yard passing game and it means nothing if you can’t score..The Giants played their best red zone defense and offense in that game..the best all year..The Cowboys defense let you guys down..and again, I would blame Flozell for throwing gas on a small spark at the end of the first half..He motivated the opposing defense..You can’t do that and expect to win..I’m sure Wade is dealing with him this week on that very thing..and watch out for Rivers..I’ve read comments out here about his immobility..He is as good as it gets moving around the pocket and he is tough. He played with a torn MCL..He is nothing to overlook..Also, Tomlinson has got his game back ..Sproles is like a little speedy mouse..You can’t even find the guy until he’s way downfield..If the players even think about looking over their shoulders at the Saints..then they will lose..So, hopefully they are just focussed on the Chargers this week.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 9, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

its not a fluke?

aside from a 5 game stretch from the end of last year to the beginning of this year, our run game has been virtually non-existent the last two years. Thats pretty much the definition of fluky.

by foyesboys on Dec 10, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good article Fish

Hit on most of the disappointing facts of the game and a couple disturbing trends on ST’s and Carp missing the opportunity to squash the Midgets first scoring drive.

So why did the Cowboys running game fail so badly? Did NY stack the box? Did Dallas’ big uglies just get whipped?

You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.

by APerfectStar on Dec 8, 2009 10:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Only 26 more days of Wade Phillips

The sullen son of Bum has become a punch line around the league, isn’t cut out to be a head coach, and will be fired on Monday January 4th. The Cowboys held hostage… only 26 days and 627 hours until the disappointing Wade Phillips era comes to an end.

by Montecito Tex on Dec 8, 2009 10:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why can't you just live in the here and now?

You annoy me about as much as these trolls from the other team’s blogs. You are such a whiney little man and your 3rd person schtick is so freaking BORING and so unoriginal

Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread

by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 8, 2009 11:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

If y'all want to complain about something..

How about the media???..They think we are all idiots waiting for them to throw us a dog-biscuit.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 8, 2009 10:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We? I like you Bobbi, but I haven't heard anything but praise for the Giants.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Dec 9, 2009 6:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Gun..

I was referring to how the media tries to feed all of us you, me all fans this nonsensical jazz about our teams..Didn’t mean any one particular fan base they do it to all of us..In the case of Tony Romo, they are now blaming a 14 hr trip to Las Vegas for losing the game?..Gime a break, he threw for 392 yards and three TDs..That’s a very impressive effort…Sorry if you mi-interpreted my comment..I was commenting on the general media trying to put spins on things and feed the nonsense to the fans.

by Bobbiblue on Dec 9, 2009 8:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that's why we are all here rather than there

The time I used to spend on ESPN etc is now spent mostly here – and a few other places.

The talking head ex-Jocks and Werders rely on the tabloid sports journalism and can’t beat the quality thinking we get from the “amateurs” here.

"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson

by BoyfromOz on Dec 10, 2009 1:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think arm tackling demonstrates a lack of "want-to.‘’ Don’t you?

Yes I do

by StillHateTheGiants on Dec 9, 2009 12:01 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Montecito Tex, for once

I agree with you on something.

by IronCowboy on Dec 9, 2009 6:38 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I bet there were posters on Giants blogs

counting down the days and hours in midseason 2007 until Tom Coughlin was fired. Just sayin’…

by DavidH22 on Dec 9, 2009 7:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wade is not Coughlin

And Coughlin is only an above average coach that had one good streak in the playoffs and has lost better assistance then Wade has ever had.

Given the options at the time, I was for the Wade head coach hiring. Like many others, I was wrong. The problem is that the historical weaknesses of Wade’s Team and the weaknesses of this team look a awful lot a like. Even if this team has a minirun and make the playoffs and wins a game there, the team needs an upgrade at head coach.

Plus, you almost want to fire Wade just for his lame press confrences alone. He says nothing other then it’s never the fault of the players.

by Trey, on Dec 9, 2009 7:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Geez...

I post a tame 13-word comment about Flozell’s non-suspension being a joke, and World War 3 breaks out. Relax, fellas.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Dec 9, 2009 7:42 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well he didn't know that

a DE in the 3-4 is like a DT in the 4-3. That’s is pretty basic and he had no idea.

How bout dem Frogs!!!!

by DIRE WOLF on Dec 9, 2009 11:50 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

True

Comparing a 4-3 de to a 3-4 de is just ridiculous

by scandrick32 on Dec 9, 2009 11:51 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Man guys..I think I walked smack dabbed into a firestorm last night..

I hope the team is just as grumpy this week and takes it out on the Chargers..I really believe you’ll beat them..they can’t stop the run..But the Cowboys need to control TOP and keep the Charger offense off the field..If you can run the ball and control the time of posession, you’ll win this game..just don’t sell them short…run right at them, early and often…Also, how can anyone in Cowboy land not like what Williams is now doing?..He is finally showing what he can do..

by Bobbiblue on Dec 9, 2009 5:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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