My rambling is for all of you
by cow_fanatic on Feb 12, 2009 7:54 PM CST
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PrintI haven't been a member of this site for very long and , in fact, have never blogged before I joined. I have noticed if you get enough people with their own opinions the greater good tends to get lost in the minutia. I have been as guilty as the next person(CowboyRnumba1) and for that I apologize. We are all here for the same reason and that is to vent with our opinions about what needs to happen for the Cowboys to win another one.
My ramblings begin now. I apologize for the ramblings but we are a very small % of fans that are willing to talk about the Boys in freakin' February and I love it.
I do not care about the perception of players brought in and their character. Trust me, noone else does either if we won another SB. I am criticized for rooting for the helmet and the jersey but I accept that. I want to win at all costs and morals have no room in that.
There is room to question JJ’s decisions if they do not win. That is where we are now. Bringing in the Tank’s and Pacman’s of the world was bad choice only in hindsight. If they had won a SB this year the Cowboy fans wouldn’t care and the haters would sit there seething.
But everything is cyclical it seems. JJ takes criticism for the character of players so he doesn’t draft Randy Moss. He then has a team stacked with talent after hiring Parcells and he goes out and gets questionable character guys to try to get them over the top and it didn’t work.
He’s trying everything and that’s what I want from an owner. But he deserves the criticism he’s getting right now and I believe it’s because he isn;t making decisions that ultimately win a championship. I joined this blog to voice my disdain for Wade and becaue of the lack of focus and direction with this organization he doesn’t even make the front page here. He’s an afterthought because Jerry hired him and remains obstinate keeping him here. But Jerry hired him to do a job which he has failed miserably at and he should receive the criticism for that instead of JJ taking the heat for hiring him.
The fans that booed TO are not real fans and they are an embarrassment to everyone on this site. They provide the Cowboy stereotype used by all haters but I will never be associated with them. Stay strong, voice your opinion but don’t lose sight of the objective, winning at all costs
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This is the best part
I do not care about the perception of players brought in and their character. Trust me, noone else does either if we won another SB. I am criticized for rooting for the helmet and the jersey but I accept that. I want to win at all costs and morals have no room in that.
That is sooooo true. Our SB winning teams in the 90s were FAR from choirboys. The coke, the women, the stabbing teammates in the neck? Yea…
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Feb 14, 2009 8:11 AM CST up reply actions
I would boo the boobirds only.
You are right—it’s all about winning. If I thought Romo was past his prime and had no future in Dallas and was hanging around causing discomfort or splitting the locker room, then I’d say he can take a hike too. But he’s the key to our success and no QB out there (Manning, Brady, Warner, whoever) would be a better fit for the future of this franchise.
But there are some bad apples and we all have our opinions on who’s spoiling the rest in the bushel. For us fans, it seems that the T.O. debate lights the biggest fire. I don’t see any fire Wade/Garrett posts repeatedly being recommended.
Continuity exists with those who succeed by going with the flow.
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Three points:
1. Character wins championships. A team full of criminals and ego-maniacs does not win. I don’t mind taking the occasional character risk but history has shown that teams put together without attention paid to character simply do not win.
2. It is within our rights as Cowboy fans to boo T.O. or any other player for that matter. Blind loyalty does not make sense and in an era of ultra free agency makes less sense now then it did 10-15 years ago. And with personal seat licenses now becoming all the rage you are damn right I’m going to voice my opinion.
3. The dominant teams of the 90’s had strong leadership like Aikman, Emmitt, Stepnoski, and Woodson to keep everybody in line. And I would take Irvin any day over T.O.
by Beuerleincouldhavebeenbetterthentroy on Feb 12, 2009 9:27 PM CST reply actions
I'd take talent over character
Character alone wins nothing. Talent alone can actually take you pretty far. This team, with absolutely zero direction managed to win 9 games, despite being without their starting QB for 3 games.
The team needs a head coach and a general manager who puts his ego aside to make the right decision for the team. Their supposed lack of character didn’t lose them anything. Their lack of direction did. I’d take a mediocre head coach who actually knows how to lead men over a brilliant defensive mind who can’t control anything.
And yes, I thought the TO boos were uncalled for. You do have the right to boo, however pointless and mean spirited I feel it may be. Doesn’t make anybody any less of a fan than I am.
And finally, the 90’s Cowboys had Irvin. Seriously. Guy is the quintessential WR badboy. Same competitive drive TO has, plus a crippling addiction to drugs and prostitutes. I was a child in the 90’s and watching the dynasty days with my father and grandpa are still very fond memories to me, and I still love Irvin as far as his icon status is concerned, but I will defend TO’s character over Irvin’s any day.
by the red scare on Feb 12, 2009 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
+1
Sorry, but what kind of message does this send to our kids if we take any kind of talent on our team? As a parent, these guys should (emphasis on should) be role models for our kids. As a parent of a teenage football player, I use the good guys like Kurt Warner, Peyton Manning, and etc. as examples for character to my son. The day that football is all about winning at any cost is a sad day.
Hey, don't question my parenting
so you don’t think that these guys that are getting paid millions of dollars should be good role models, not necessarily for my son, but for some of the inner city kids? I guess you think it’s fine to have all the knuckleheads like Pac Man and etc. influencing our youth. Sorry don’t agree.
and apparently Kelloggs agrees with me as well
they just dumped Michael Phelps.
Kids should look up to parents, not athletes
Didn’t mean to question YOUR parenting, I’m sorry about that. Not what I meant.
I’m just saying that athletes shouldn’t be role models. They are far too flawed.
Believe it or not, getting paid millions of dollars doesn’t make one better than me, who makes barely anything in the Air Force.
True they shouldn't be role models
but many kids do look up to these guys especially the inner city kids. I remember as a kid, that I worshipped Staubach and would have been crushed to hear something bad on him. On the other hand, Lance Rentzel was another story.
You obviously dont have kids...
because it seems you don’t have a clue as to how ‘role model dynamics’ works in kids.
Aren’t people are on this site because we have all looked up to current or former players and/or coaches?
Better yet, were none of the Cowboys players your childhood heroes?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I'm on this site because I like football
I just hate when athletes are blamed for being human beings and doing wrong, because they have a ‘lot of money’ and should be doing what’s right ‘for the kids’.
Maybe instead parents should teach their kids that these immortal millionaires are humans, and make mistakes just like the average joe.
Couldn't have said it better
Well put, ol’ chap.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Feb 15, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
I strongly am against the negative attention Michael Phelps is receiving. Maybe because I am only a couple years younger than him, and I understand that he is just a kid that wants to have a good time like the rest of us. Yes, he should be more discrete about what he does, and yes the suspension is fitting because what he did was illegal. However he did not sign up to be a role model, he signed up to be a swimmer, and he is currently the best in the world. Don’t try to tell me that being a role model comes with that. It’s his job and he is damn good at it. I know we are talking about football, but sorry, this just goes along with the whole athletes being role models.
Disagree
I know that you are young and I have a son about your age, but, when you sign these big contracts, there is a responsibility that goes along with that contract. When you sign a multi-million dollar contract with Professional Sports and Private Companies, they expect you to represent them in a positive light. Sure, they are human and no one is disputing that, but they are held to a higher standard. You think that Kelloggs likes their name associated with pot? I don’t think so. You think that McDonalds liked their name associated with Kobe when he had his problems? Like it or not, these guys are role models when they sign these multi-million dollar contracts and in those contracts it is stated that they will act accordingly. In fact, many of these guys sign on with United Way etc. because it’s written in their contract. I know some of these guys are young, but when you sign on for millions of dollars, you give up your rights to do your own thing.
There's a serious problem with our society then
It’s funny how we hold athletes to this high standard, but this sort of behavior is expected and applauded by most when it comes to actors and musicians. Actors who, by the way, usually make much more than athletes. Why is it that only athletes who are rich are held to this standard. Does this money standard not apply to CEO’s of these companies who are hypocrites, not apply to our rich government officials? Nope, just athletes.
Quite hypocritical of our society.
If athletes don't want to live
to a high standard then they shouldn’t be signing these multi-million dollar corporate contracts because like it or not they are representing these companies’ images. BTW, you don’t see too many actor/musicians representing companies do you? There’s a reason that the milk producers normally use athletes for their commercials over musicians with the slogan “Milk’s good for you”
And the CEO's of these companies are incorruptible I'm sure
It’s hypocritical. It has nothing to do with the companies wanting them to act like role models. It’s all about $$
Well
Maybe you are right, in the sense that signing endorsements should make him responsible to represent the company in a positive light. You got me there, I didn’t think about the endorsements. However as a swimmer, I do not think he should owe any responsibility to be a role model. I understand your concern for the youth being that you are a father, but it is my strong belief that as a swimmer he owes nothing, just for the fact that it is his job, similar to actors and musicians who are also very vulnerable to the media yet still owe nothing.
But may I also make the point that
If companies want to hire someone for endorsement, they should consider the fact that it may not work out in there favor. They probably didn’t do their research when signing him. I attend a college near where Michael Phelps lives, where he received a DUI when he was 19. I hear about it all the time. I’m not saying that justifies what he does, but theses companies should know what they are getting into.
BTW, I like Michael Phelps
and I hope he gets it together. The athletes that I’m talking about are more like the Pac-Man’s,Michael Vick’s etc. Kids look up to these guys (inner city kids). When they go around doing stupid things it sometimes gives the kids the idea that if you are a good enough athlete you can get away with things which I detest. Does any of my rambling make sense? Back to the DUI with Phelps, he asked for forgiveness for the DUI and so people forgave him for that. Companies forgave him for that because of his age, but when there’s a repeat they may not be so forgiving.
Gets his act together?
Are you serious? Because he smoked pot?
Wow. You act like he killed someone, or is a tax cheater (we’ll leave that to the politicians) or slaughtered some animals.
YOU LIVE NEAR SALISBURY?
HAHA I GRADUATED FROM THERE! THAT’S OUR BIGGEST SELLING POINT! COME TO THE SCHOOL WHEN PHELPS GOT BUSTED!!!
by AikmanNailedMySis on Feb 18, 2009 7:28 AM CST up reply actions
I just did last spring...
I miss it like crazy! There’s nothing like being hated by every person in Break Time while watching the Boys win haha
by AikmanNailedMySis on Feb 18, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Damn, that is crazy
I’m graduating next spring, and yeah i love it here. Now Salisbury has two claims to fame: Where Phelps got a DUI, AND where AikmanNailedMySis was invented.
Disagree,
He’s representing the USA. Don’t think that’s the kind of image that we want internationally.
Yea i just think it is a matter of opinions
I for one don’t think a kid smoking some pot is the end of the world.
No, I don't think it's the end
of the world either and neither am I in favor of some fat-executives either. Hey, these guys are human and I really like Michael Phelps but whether you think it is fair or not, when you are in the public eye as an athlete, you are held to a higher standard than the general public.
BTW,
I don’t even know how we got off thinking about something like pot but all I was trying to say earlier, was that some people all they care about is winning and they don’t care about the character of people on their team. All I was trying to say is I don’t want the thugs and others on my team. I wanted the good guys. I don’t put smoking a little weed in the same category. I was talking about people in the category of Pac Man.
Sometimes they're held to a higher standard lol
If I slaughtered 50 dogs, or if I nearly cut someone’s head off, or if I killed my teammate while driving drunk at about 120 mph in my Porsche (Danny Heatly when he played for the Atlanta Thrashers) I’d be in jail instantly, and for a very long time.
Sure, weed might cause chronic laziness and apathy in the wrong kind of underachieving individual.
But alcohol is a billion times more harmful and it’s legal. In an ideal world, Michael Phelps’ harmless little soiree would be representative of how a hard-working world class athlete was also capable of enjoying a little harmless recreational drug use in moderation.
As for athletes, all they really are is entertainers who a lot of the time won some kind of genetic jackpot and there are plenty of them who aren’t even willing to work that hard at their craft. These guys might play through an occasional sprained ankle but they really ain’t changing the world.
Soiree; alcohol and marijuana
Not sure what you mean by Soiree….but my +1 is for your opinion that alcohol is more harmful than marijuana.
by Cowboy Louie on Feb 14, 2009 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
As usual, I had a type-o or left something out of my original post.
I meant to type soiree WITH MARY JANE. Soiree is a fancy Frenchy word for party.
+1
It was the stupid camera’s greed. Dude still won like a million gold medals.
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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 14, 2009 1:59 AM CST up reply actions
Absolutely not. Their are way more SB winners who werent the most talented than the most talented winners.We were the most talented this year and we didnt even make the playoffs.
Character absolutely counts. Problem is most people get confused by character. They want choir boys. Footballs make up and violence lends itself to violent alfa males. I want “FOOTBALL CHARACTER”. This is a team guy willing to sacrifice for the good. Guys that want to be a part of something bigger than themselves. Guys who dont polarize the locker room. Guys who when the going gets tough become part of the solution and not part of the problem. Football character counts in football.
By the way a BP guy is a guy you can win with. thats all it is.
Character to some extent
is in the eye of the beholder.
The Pittsburgh Steelers may have the character that it takes to win, but Bens a moron, Ward and Harrison dish out some serious cheap shots, Holmes has problems and the list goes on…in this regard, we’re a much better “character” team than they are. But are they a better/generally more disciplined football team than us? yes, they are.
Exactly
My point was that if this team had more direction, a result of a good leader at head coach, nobody would be talking about “character”. Tomlin knows how to lead men, therefore, their roster, loaded with people who parents wouldn’t want their children to admire, won the Superbowl. Now they’re heroes, and Santonio Holmes(who’s hobbies include beating his girlfriend and selling drugs, apparently) is the Super Bowl MVP. Their isn’t a character problem at Valley Ranch. There’s a lack of direction coming from the head coach, GM, etc.
by the red scare on Feb 13, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
I just realized
how many spelling and punctuation errors that has…ugh.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Feb 14, 2009 3:39 AM CST up reply actions
don't worry about it
i get on here about twice a day between classes and my spelling ends up an utter disaster.
100% agree
Theres character on this team. Newman, Ware, Romo, Witten, Columbo, TO….we have guys with character.
Completely besides the point...
But please find me a video of a Ward “cheap shot” and I’ll find you 50 of him making great crack-back/a WR’s dream blocks…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Feb 16, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, must feel nice to think you're the one who gets to decide who's a fan and who's not.
In all my disagreements on this site about TO or whatever (not much else really) I pride myself on never getting personal. Who cares in the end, we’re discussing hypotheticals about a sport, right? I put my opinions (do you know that word?) out there, and know others will disagree.
Time to break THAT rule. This post is stupid and offensive. It lacks all coherent, logical thought, and is offensive in calling people who disagree with your OPINION and FEELINGS about a football team not true fans.
I don’t need to explain the last part, and hopefully someone will remove this post as completely against the spirit of the blog.
To explain the lack of thinking/logic, try this: You say you joined this blog to protest WadeP?? Well, suppose I’m a big WadeP supporter! Huh!! Well, I say YOU are not a true fan! Because in my opinion, it’s all about winning, and in my opinion he’s the best coach for this team!! So there! I’m a fan. You’re not, loser.
(Disclaimer—read in fast/quick voice—I’m not a big Phillip’s fan and that was purely hypothetical.)
How’d you like that? Using your thinking, anyone who disagrees with you is not a true fan???
Stupid. Worst post I’ve read since coming here.
By the way, you need to get a life. You seem to take this stuff too seriously, dude.
Wow.
I’m gonna have to reread the original post. I thought it was seeking some peace.
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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 12, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
lol...me too.,.i recommended it...and he's (cow_fanatic) calling me out all the time...
maybe i missed something ?
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 13, 2009 1:01 AM CST up reply actions
I may be overreacting to your last paragraph, but
we also had a recent post where someone took it upon themself to state who was a true fan and not.
Kinda like the politicians trying to get control of the word “patriot” and deciding who is or isn’t one, and can we all just agree not to use that line?
I thought he meant "winning at all costs" means cutting T.O. is okay
and that those who “boo” T.O. were the ones at the actual game, not here on the site.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 12, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Well, that's plain stoopid then.
I declare that anyone who calls other people not a fan
is not a fan.
So, I get to say you are not a fan.
So there.
by Realist Larry on Feb 13, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Well by that logic youre not a fan either
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Feb 14, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions
Nice!
You got me.
We could go into a philosophical rambling about reality and subjectivity, but not today….
by Realist Larry on Feb 14, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
How does one acquire the wisdom
to be the arbiter of who is a true fan and who is not? I sure wish I had that skill, I’m noticing that a few people on the blog have acquired this secret knowledge without telling the rest of us where it comes from. That’s a neat trick, to look into the mind and soul of another and divine their true feelings about the Dallas Cowboys. Eh, maybe that explanation is much too mystical. Maybe it’s just deciding that those who don’t agree with you on a subject must not be true fans. Who knew it would have a narcissistic angle?
Selah.
I agree...
questioning someones opinion, maturity, intelligence, manhood, and especially fan status is uncalled for on this site…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 13, 2009 1:06 AM CST up reply actions
+ 1 million
For all the times I agree or disagree with posts on this site, nothing makes me madder than people saying “if you do this or don’t do this, you are not a true fan.” I got news for you guys, anyone who is blogging about their football team in February is a true fan because he or she obviously cannot get the cowboys out of their system.
To be honest, this last season left me so bitter that if I had the ability to walk away from this team, I would have done it. Instead, here I am in February, blogging about the boys while I should be working.
Mystical is it.
If only we lived in a mystical world. But this is real. And fandom is fandom because we all seek the divine intervention between that dude above the clouds and his new retractable hole to peer down upon this team.
Good bless these Dallas Cowboys in 2009!
Damn, 7 Deadly Zins is some good wine.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 14, 2009 2:02 AM CST up reply actions
I meant "Mystical IT is."
wine
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 14, 2009 2:03 AM CST up reply actions
Geez. OK new rule.
I submit everyone has to read a post at least twice, go take a shower, come back and read it again, and then respond. For my short time here, I’ve encountered mostly thought-provoking well thought-out responses, a little humorous banter and repertoire, etc. Apparently, though, there are some subjects that bring out the emotional, angry responses from some people. All well and good, but the finger pointing name calling crap should really be kept to a minimum. We’re all fans of the same team, we all want what’s best for them so we should at some point just agree to disagree on some subjects and move on.
T.O.'s cancer is infliltrating BTB!
Told you guys so!
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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 14, 2009 2:04 AM CST up reply actions
Well, I tried
Those opinions above were truly all ramblings of my opinions and apparently offended some which was not my intention. I am going to assume a true blog is not one which can make all happy and that’s fine.
I apologize to Dave and Realist Larry to this point and maybe others later. Not because our viewpoints differed but because you took mine so personally. I certainly didn’t have y’all in mind when I wrote it
Hope that wasn't aimed at me
Cuz you’d have to try a lot harder to offend me. I was more responding to someone else who I thought was overreacting a bit and I’ve noticed a lot more of these types of responses lately (see any TO or Romo post for evidence).
I wasn't offended and didn't take it personally cow_fanatic
I took it blogally…wait, what, did I just make up a word? I see it far too often when the passions run high in comments, someone drops the ‘not a true fan’ line. Go root for the so-and-so’s, that’s who you really like. Things of that nature. Do we want to talk football or judge other people on the blog? I vote talk football.
by Dave Halprin on Feb 12, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
OK
There are things you can learn and I have learned not to make blanket statments. I tell my wife that all the time but she doesn’t listen.
My bad. No opinions should be blanket statements and that’s what I did. Let’s talk football
by cow_fanatic on Feb 12, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
I really have to ask though Grizz does a true fan ever boo before a game even starts? When your team is in the playoff race and needs all the support they can get?
I want to understand the motivation for a hometown boo before the game even starts. I am all for booing for games like the Eagles, and anytime you see a disgraceful performance. But a true fan and (yes I can say this) does not look to hurt a member of their own team.
A hometown boo is meant to motivate your team when they are playing bad. Can you please give me a reason why I should think these are “true” fans. I know that is a very made up word but I just truly believe anyone who was up there booing T.O. in such a pivotal game does not really deserve to be called a “true fan”. I understand if you do not like someone, but a true fan would realize how important this game was to the Cowboys and try everything in their power to help them get the edge they needed. A “true” fan like this post mentions looks to win at all costs and do everything in their power to help their team win.
You don't know what that person feels or thinks
Everyone reacts to situations differently and maybe somebody booed TO that game because of comments he made in the media which that fan took as divisive to the cowboys. Maybe that fan thought that TO’s off the field antics were the very thing keeping the cowboys out of the playoffs, who knows?
The point is that nobody has any right to judge anyone else’s fanness (fanship?) based on one action. You are expressing your opinions about what a “true” fan should or should not do but you need to remember that those are your opinions and maybe nobody agrees with you.
What if the booing is actually about the said players recent behavior.
Im sure the player was booed for his recent off the field actions. Im also just as sure that if said player made a dazzling TD he would be cheered greatly.
But I believe
the booing stemmed from reports from behind the scenes that there had been a falling out between Romo, Witten and T.O. T.O. was booed based on the way the report was slanted and was way too premature to take sides at that point.
AND if you are booing on the field players for off the field issues you aren’s as interested in the win as you are voicing your opinion. Call in to talk shows and blog and cuss the players you don’t like on the team but on gameday at the stadium it’s my opinion you cheer loudly those same players you didn’t like the week before.
I don’t want anyone coming back and saying I should change teams but I want you to think about this. Do you think any Green Bay Packer is booed on gameday? The answer is no
the only time I mentioned
that Cowboys fans root for another team is when they insist Jerry has to step down as GM because that will never happen. If a fan can’t accept Jones as our GM I don’t see any other choice than root for another team because Jones will run the team so long as he’s alive.
In Romo we Trust
heck...you had me in mind...took the liberty to spell my name out and everything :-)
I’m one of the truest fans you’ll ever find……..1975 was my start date as a Dallas Cowboys fan…..til i die…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 13, 2009 1:10 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't take it personally, that's impossible. I don't know you!
Thanks for the apology.
As I said after posting the first time, It was 2 in a row that got to me. Your post is fine, except for the last paragraph about who’s a fan, and it was just the 2 in a row that I read along that line (the other guy above is unapologetic) that got to me….
Glad to see Grizz agrees above.
by Realist Larry on Feb 13, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
You're using exclamation points
so you’re taking something personal. Were you one of the few booing T.O. at the game? That’s probably why I hit such a raw nerve, I apologize again
I took it to mean more than a literal meaning,
that you were referring to the large % of fans (yes, they are) who want to get rid of Owens. Not actually booing at a game.
That said, just because someone boos at a game you can’t say they’re not a fan. That’s their way of expressing their fandom! The guy may be a season ticket holder for 20 years, you don’t know.
You should say he is not a “Good” fan, or he is a “poor” fan, and explain how he’s being a “bad fan.” But people don’t get to say who is a fan or not.
by Realist Larry on Feb 14, 2009 1:32 AM CST up reply actions
How many of us
scream and rant during a game because of the heat of the moment. Even on this blog. I’ve even turned them off. We only do this because we are fans and get emotionally wrapped up in the situation at times.
It all sounds good to me fanatic.
I bet all of us on here gotta admit to while watching a Big D game, imagining the look we would give those jerks behind us that boo any of our current players.
This team’s fragile, right now; they need support!
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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 14, 2009 2:07 AM CST up reply actions
Classy to apologize
But you clearly stated that it was just your ramblings, nothing else, which means you’re opinions were being criticized, just as you were being accused of. I guess challenging someone about being a fan is a touchy subject, just something to steer clear of. But honestly I thought it was a great post.
A very good Fan Post...recommended.
Hey…I’m as passionate as they come…I’ve been kicked off twice, and I still come back. Like cow_ fanatic, I was never a blogger until I fell apon this site one day. I haven’t missed a day in almost 2 years….Cuz I LOVE the Cowboys, more than anything else in this world, well, besides my dog…lol. I’m really not here to argue with people, or to seem like I know more than anyone else. I’m here cuz I actually think of fellow BTB regulars as somehow an extention of my / a family of deeply devoted Cowboy fans, and I look forward to new comments everytime I come on here, which is several times daily. It actually takes up too much of my time, but hey, I’m a diehard Cowboy fan , and I eat, drink, and sleep Cowboys. When I offer insight here, or give you all the run down on a draft prospects for instance, it’s to keep you all informed, keep you in touch with what’s out there, I’m doing it for you people. The last thing I want to do is come on here having to defend a member of the Cowboys roster. Romo, TO, Stanback, etc. etc…….No matter who it is, I’m not going to let outside forces (media) ruin my harmony, my special retreat, my mingling space…that being BTB, and of course, I’ll never let anyone dog my team. I’ve tried to live up to Grizz’s standards of etiquette, sometimes I go over board, and I apologize to any or all that I’ve offended or disturbed in the past.
I think I can speak for all of us here. Last years roster was so geared up, so ready, so talented that the only thing that would stop us from winning that ever elusive 6th SB, was ourselves….Of course we didn’t realize going into the season, we’d have to overcome a boat load of injuries, some questionable play calling on both sides of the ball, and of course non stop 24/7 media vultures just setting us up to fail with lofty expectations, knowing they’d turn on a dime if any one thing went wrong. Well, injuries happened, some bad calls were made, we lose a few games, and here they are…The media hounds diggin’ for bones…Of course the TO comment, and the Pacman fiasco, and the loss of Romo, the demotion of Stewart, and all of a sudden….Our fondness, our hopes, our dreams, everything went right down the crapper……..Each and every one of you know, the season was lost long before the last game against Philly. Of course we’re all pissed, of course we need to have people held accountable, and of course we needed changes…I was a big supporter of Wade Phillips, the defensive guru, but I have wanned from supporting him as much nowadays…I like his family friendly approach, as that’s the method I use as a supervisor. People should work better, when they like coming to work for their boss. I am not saying it didn’t work, or doesn’t…It still requires a heavy hand at times, and you need to put your foot down to let your players know you are the boss, even if Jerry is really the boss. Blame can be put squarely on Jerry for not securing proper depth at QB, Safety, and OL . Wade can be blamed for not taking over sooner for Stewart. Garrett should be blamed for several problems, the poor play calls, the lack of creativity, the blocking schemes, and foremost important, not prescribing to the notion of changing it up a little take advantage of his personel, more Felix, more slants, more motion, more bootleg, etc. etc…Romo for being out of synch most of the year, TO for running his mouth, Crayton and Roy W11 for running theirs, Pacman for showing up, Hamlin, Flo, Newman, and MBIII for taking the money and not living up to it…so we can blame everyone, including ourselves for letting this bickering and bantering to get out of control…..
Sorry guys, but the season is over…..It’s been over for a while now….Let’s all more forward ?? sound good ??
That means there should be no more TO should go posts….. cuz if he doesn’t go, alot of people are going to feel outraged or look foolish in some way, and you’ll carry your opinion of him into next season looking for him to screw up,(just like the media) just so it would support your beliefs about him. And that’s not good karma, to go into a season with an agenda in hopes of someone failing,
And of course IF TO is released, me and several other supporters will be going into next season with the feeling that this team isn’t going to be as good, and will have no shot at a championship, regardless, it’s not good. I want TO scoring the first TD in the new stadium…..
I know my suggestion won’t stop the madness, so I vow not to discuss, debate, or argue for TO anymore….none….nada……..He is the biggest cog, on the best, most well oiled machine in the league….with him, we are Vegas odds on favorites once again to win the NFC, without him….I can name at least 4 NFC teams better than us….Jerry will decide this mess….I have confidence in the best owner in team sports…..
Let’s focus on free agency, and the draft…This is probably my most exciting time of the year….
Once again…..I’m a team player guys…..let’s all get along.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 13, 2009 12:50 AM CST reply actions
Is your no more TO posts a suggestion, request, or for lack of a better term "order"? I ask
because I do not feel that any commentor here can have a gag order on what we can or cannot post (Grizz has that authority). What I think you are saying is to not build up the expectation that TO will be gone because it will leave them crestfallen if it does not happen and it will take away from any positive results from next years team.
But the inital reaction to your paragraph sounds like something of a decree and if a commentor feels strongly about an issue then they should have the right to post and let the powers that be over this blog (Grizz) determine if it’s out of bounds. I do not think you could really be asking the members of this blog to not post on the TO issue any more than Terry could ask people to stop posting about how Romo should be traded, cut , or benched. I do think that the Romo, TO topics have run their course for lack of new information; until something is reported we will not know what is going on. This does not mean I want people to stop talking about the TO, Romo topics and both you and Terry are the stauch supporters of your respective players. I have no right to ask either one of you to stop responding to almost every TO/Romo comment that you feel the need to defend.
I know that this is a long reponse to a small part of your comment, please do not take this as a critique, it’s just an observation and if you feel that I missed the mark please let me know.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
I say
let’s keep talking about T.O. and Romo and all these guys that piss us off. If they were working well together we’d be talking about repeating and looking over our shoulders at the other teams in the East.
It’s huge to pay attention to them right now because one of them will likely land Boldin. It’s all good if they do though, because we’ll have some new sick a$$ safeties to level him.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 14, 2009 2:13 AM CST up reply actions
I am very Sorry, I did not see the very end, it was a suggestion, please accept my apology and ignore the earlier comment.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
It was merely a suggestion to refrain from each individual reiterating the same sequence of thought through a new fan posts...
I don’t care if people love or hate TO, I’m just tired of seeing a new daily posting containing basically the same things day in and day out…….this of course is nearly 5 months since anyone’s even heard a peep out of TO’s mouth…..
This is FA and draft season…..let’s move on people..
Have to agree
I am sick of logging onto BTB just to see more rehashing of TO. Will he stay, will he go, what if blah blah blah. I’m ready to talk draft, combine and FA acquisitions (if any.)
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Feb 14, 2009 8:19 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly Right! He is a distraction even to this blog.
Please dont blame the media on this. You and I and everyone else gets involved every freaking time.
A distraction to the blog! That's good.
Maybe we’ll make it on ESPN.
by Realist Larry on Feb 13, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
+1
Let’s scout. We need another speed guy on the outside, regardless.
I don’t recommend any T.O. posts. He’s boring. I want some new blood.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 14, 2009 2:15 AM CST up reply actions
I meant for me. That's why I said I want some new blood.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 14, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
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