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Be Sure You Are Sure, Mr. Jones

According to Sports Illustrated's Don Banks and many other league insiders we may have almost certainly seen the last of Terrell Owens in a Dallas Cowboy uniform. It is not my intent to argue for or against the move because the men making the decision are a lot closer to the situation than you or I. Though it is likely Terrell Owens is a contributor to poor clubhouse chemistry, it would be foolish however to think that removing Terrell Owens from the Cowboys locker room would cure all ills. This team has deeper, more complex issues, and before he sends his 2009 squad into battle without it‘s top scoreboard-changer, Jerry Jones had better be sure of a few things.

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Be sure that you have not been fooled, Mr. Jones. The current debate over whether or not to retain Terrell Owens is very much a real one. What Jerry Jones cannot do is make a decision based on anything other than the findings of the guys closest to the situation. This is the time for Jerry to listen to his front office, his coaches, and his players. Jerry cannot allow the Terrell Owens lynch-mob to have any effect on this situation. The Cris Carter's and Peter King's of the world do not have the Cowboys best interest in mind. Jerry Jones has never been the type to allow anyone to tell him what is best for him or his team. Still, he may feel that Terrell Owens would take the media circus out the door with him, and letting him go would be worth it just to get the carnival to stop. If Jerry Jones confers with his front office and coaching staff, and decides that moving Terrell Owens is the best thing for this team, then he most definitely should do it. However, this critical decision must not be altered in any way, shape, or form by exterior forces.

Be sure that your locker room is completely clean, Mr. Jones. Releasing Pacman Jones was the first step towards healing a fractured locker room. Declining to retain Tank Johnson should probably be second. If Terrell Owens is also moved, the spring cleaning can not stop there. If this team truly wants to rework its team chemistry, it can not stop after getting rid of the players that the media has deemed problematic. Oh no, the Cowboys have got to vacuum under the couch, dust the blades on the ceiling fan, and pull all of the weeds. If you are going to get rid of problematic guys, then get rid of perennial malcontents like Greg Ellis, who will almost certainly find something else to whine about this off season. Get rid of excuse makers like Roy L. Williams, and strap a muzzle on Martellus Bennett before he does something really stupid. This team has also got to locate and exterminate the rat or rats otherwise known as "sources close to the team." The Cowboys' chemistry issues are too complex to be resolved by releasing one or two players. To remedy this situation the Cowboys have got to examine the construction of their locker room from the ground up. Guys have to hold themselves accountable, and if so many players are so easily distracted, maybe the front office needs to rethink the way they evaluate the guys they are bringing in.

Be sure about Roy E. Williams, Mr. Jones. Jerry Jones made the mid-season deal to acquire then Detroit Lions wide receiver Roy E. Williams with the idea of Williams some day becoming the teams featured receiver. Well Roy, if T.O. is gone its lights, camera, action buddy. I hope you are ready for your close-up. Granted, last season Williams was shoehorned into an offense in Week 7, and he also battled a foot injury for most of the season. Still, how can anyone be confident that this guy can be a lead-dog for this offense? Five years into his NFL career, Williams has eclipsed 1,000 yard receiving just once. He did play for a dysfunctional Detroit franchise, catching passes from the likes of Joey Harrington and John Kitna. That excuse would carry some validity if we did not all just witness Calvin Johnson, wearing that same uniform, work magic with Daunte Culpepper and Dan Orlovsky. Save for one aberration in 2006, Roy E. Williams has never proven himself to be a #1 option. With questions now swirling about his work ethic, it has to be questioned if his on-field play will ever match his physical ability and potential.

This offense can succeed without Terrell Owens, but it will take a complete re-tooling of and newfound dedication to the running game. It will take some improvement from Williams, and a quantum leap by Miles Austin. Austin has shown flashes (when healthy), but it is hard to believe that the sum of Williams and Austin can somehow be equal to or greater than the sum of Owens and Williams. Either way, this offense will surely not improve without better consistency and decision making from its signal caller.

Be sure about your quarterback, Mr. Jones. For quite some time, the hypothesis has been presented that Tony Romo's play would improve if he did not feel pressured to pacify Owens by forcing him the football. Many believe that Owens' absence would allow Romo to work within the framework of the offense, progress through his reads, and just allow things to happen. If the Cowboys were to subtract T.O. from the equation, the pressure would trickle down, directly onto the shoulders of #9. Given his past few Decembers, would it be wise to assume that Tony Romo can handle an entire season of pressure?

Terrell Owens is what I like to call a "touchdown right now guy." No matter where you are on the field, it is possible that Terrell Owens can get you a touchdown right now. Miles Austin can be that way at times, but removing T.O. really leaves Felix Jones as the teams only source of instant offense. This has a dramatic effect on Romo. Without his top deep threat, Romo will be forced to matriculate the ball down the field and just take what he is give more often. Romo is an improviser, and when plays have turned into street ball in the past, Terrell Owens has been his best friend. Big plays are more important than most want to believe. Nothing busts you out of a 3-3 grunt fest like a skinny post that goes for a 60-yard touchdown. With the team's big play ability greatly compromised, it will be interesting to see if Tony Romo can consistently put together long drives.

Be sure about your staff, Mr. Jones. Question: If Terrell Owens is gone, will guys start showing up on time for meetings? Will Tony Romo stop fumbling? Will the offensive line be more cohesive? Will Flozell stop jumping early? Will Ken Hamlin start wrapping up? All of the aforementioned points are coachable problems. The coaching staff for the most part is still in place, so why should we believe that any of those things would change? I'm not saying that Wade Phillips has lost the locker room, but if the reports are true about the lackadaisical demeanor of the players around Valley Ranch, then he definitely doesn't have anybody walking on egg shells.

In my opinion the real question here is Jason Garrett. You know when you are a kid, and your uncle keeps you at bay by putting his hand on your head while you swing wildly? That is what it was like watching Garrett try to match wits with Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Johnson in Week 17. The same could have been said the previous week against Rex Ryan, or in Week 14 against Dick LeBeau. Granted these are some of the games all-time greats, matched up against a sophomore coordinator. One would have to believe that Garrett will learn from those experiences and improve, but his play calling may not be biggest reason for concern.

Given some of the comments by Cowboys players in regards to Garrett, it's hard to believe that they have any faith in him. Of course Terrell Owens' comments about not being used properly have been well documented. Roy E. Williams echoed the same sentiments in an interview during Super Bowl week. Tony Romo said that the Cowboys "didn't figure (the Ravens) out" until midway through the third quarter, and said that the Eagles "exposed" them fundamentally. Anytime your franchise quarterback uses the term "exposed," it is an indirect callout to the offensive coordinator. Of all of the comments made by players concerning Garrett, there is one that is more disturbing than most. In an ESPN interview Patrick Crayton was asked about the relationship between Terrell Owens and Jason Garrett he had this to say:

"Terrell is not one of those guys who is going to bite his tongue. And if you're not going to be straightforward with him, then there is not going to be a respect there."

The line that disturbs me is "if you're not going to be straightforward."  Is Garrett not being straightforward with T.O. or others? If that is the case, then let's all look to the most recent example of what happens when you are dishonest with your players. After the Tampa Bay Buccaneers fired Jon Gruden, many players cited Gruden's dishonesty as the reason he eventually lost the locker room. Now, we all have to take Crayton's words with a grain of salt, because Owens has him in is back pocket. He has sort of become T.O.'s new Freddie Mitchell. Still, if Garrett isn't shooting these guys straight, then he may be a part of the mutiny in the locker room. Either way it is clear that there is at least some question as to how much the players believe in him. In addition to the very vocal skill players, it is hard to imagine that the offensive line has a lot of confidence in Garrett after being twisted, slanted, pinched, and angled to death all season.

Terrell Owens is undoubtedly a part of the problem in Dallas, but he is not the problem. If Jerry Jones wants to fix things for the Cowboys, he has got to be thorough. If moving Terrell Owens makes sense, then so be it, but the cleansing can not stop there. Jerry has got to investigate this organization top to bottom, including himself. Mr. Jones should not, and absolutely can not allow the media to pressure him into parting ways with his most lethal offensive weapon. If President Jones and his cabinet decide to move Terrell Owens, there will still be plenty of work to do.

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Very nice read

There is a progression of responsibility that should be investigated before releasing/trading T.O. and JJ has to be sure that this move will cure the locker-room or it will all be for naught.

by hiafex on Feb 14, 2009 6:54 PM CST reply actions  

step in the right direction...

How many playoff games have the Boys won since the greatest thing since sliced bread arrived. Now playoff games are not my measuring stick but they are getting closer to it. If the team you are on, or cheering for doesn’t win a championship then you have more work to do. If the worst thing that happens is that the Boys go another year without winning a playoff game and draft at number 10 instead of number 20 in the draft then I say dump the guy and increase your draft position at worst.

by DaBoys on Feb 14, 2009 7:12 PM CST reply actions  

The same amont since Romo has been the starter.

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Feb 14, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

true, but...

Romo did not get brought in with a contract that was designed to be yearly so he could be cut without harm due to destroying his two previous teams.

by DaBoys on Feb 14, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah 9 million dollars against the cap for nothing ,what harm?

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Feb 15, 2009 1:59 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 15, 2009 3:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I think you missed the "get brought in" part

I was talking about the first contract not his second one with the Boys. I believe if his second contract with the Boys was written the same as his first (pretty much a yearly contract for three years as I understood it) he would be gone already. Now it is an expensive cut, no doubt.

by DaBoys on Feb 15, 2009 5:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Jerry has class and rewarded hard work with more guarantee's and stability(unlike what Philly pulled)...plus it gave much cap relief so Jerry can extend players like Hamlin and Barber....

TO’s 2008 salary cap hit was only 5,723,000, as opposed to potentially 9 million which he would have made if not restructured…..saving Jerry over 3.2 million in cap room so he can sign the others…..

That’s what smart businessmen do…You can thank Steven Jones for that…….

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 15, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

this is a sports team, these are grown men, they should be able to handel this

that is what confuses me the most. I have been on a few teams in the past and honestly locker room chemistry is not that important. it always came down too who had the better players and who was the better team. drama does not make anyone slower or easier to take down. no one thinks about i got to get the ball over here or there to keep people happy in the heat of the moment. they should be able to handle this if they truly are that talented. come on these are men. they should be able to straighten it out on the field. I have a stinking suspicion either this team is not as talented as advertised or the fault is with the coaching.

by Becho on Feb 15, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

and one more thing

the most important part of this article is the assertion that if TO is gone we better clean out the rest of our closet as well. If this problem really is that big of a deal i think players like Ellis and Roy Thong arej ust as big if not bigger parts of that problem.

by Becho on Feb 15, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't just stop there

Players like Newman and Crayton who go to the media with their problems.

by mhuff13 on Feb 15, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Jerry is the real problem

These problems won’t get fixed until Stephen gets to run the show, assuming he’s not the same way.

by mhuff13 on Feb 15, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

problem is

you can’t cut everyone lol. I think we kinda have to view last year as a one year where everything got blown apart kinda deal.

Newman is a guy who LOVES practice. With the supposed practice habits on this team, is he the guy you want to cut?

If we’re cutting players who speak to the media too much, there goes our entire wr core, and newman, ellis and bradie, our defensive leaders.

by foyesboys on Feb 15, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah if they start to weed players out they cant go cutting everyone

anyway newman is not a bad dude, neither is crayton at this point. crayton does need to do something this year

by Becho on Feb 15, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

I have been a part of many divided locker rooms. Sometimes the different factions hated eachother, but we all hated losing more. None of that stuff ever mattered on game day. I would go block downfield just as hard for someone I hated as I would for one of my boys.

IF YOU'RE LOOKIN FOR ME...I'M AT THE SCRIP CLUB WITH PACMAN......AND WE'RE BEING REBELLION!!

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 15, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what worries me

It’s about desire, not about getting along.

by mhuff13 on Feb 15, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Ive experienced the same thing

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 16, 2009 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

when it comes down to the game, you just want to win

same thing regarding romo’s remarks about motivating and learning how to win. he said champions find a way to win and that way to win is different to all different championship teams. he said for some teams they get in each others face, others take adversity with a grain of salt. he stated that this team just has not find their way. he mentioned that he liked strategy over fiery confrontation but who knows. they need to find their way but lets not make to big a deal about all the drama. more than anything i think they just need to get the monkey off their back and not feel so snakebit

by Becho on Feb 15, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Great Post GD88

I’m still undecided if TO should go or not. Jerry loves media attention, but I’ve never gotten the impression that he’d cave in to their demands. I agree that TO is not the only problem on the team. He may not even be top five.

by illcowboy on Feb 14, 2009 7:20 PM CST reply actions  

Yes, well, however, but the point is this.

Bringing in one guy or removing one guy is not going to change the culture of this team, if it is a team which I doubt.

No, what we have at Valley Ranch is a culture of complacency. Guys cashing checks after they quit in December. It’s been that way since at least 1996.

Through all the coaches and players since that time, there are only two constants—Jerry Jones and Joe Juraszek. I don’t know whether the problem is in management or strength and conditioning, but when you have a team that has not posted a winning record in December for twelve consecutive seasons and has lost six consecutive playoff games, including five one-and-dones, obviously there is a problem.

Identify the problem. That is the first step. Nothing else matters but that.

Personally, as much as I love the Cowboys, I seriously doubt Jerry Jones is mentally capable of taking that first step, probably because it involves looking in the mirror. So I don’t hold out much hope for next season or the season after that or the season after that, ad infinitum.

T.O. is not the problem. Yeah, he’s a pain, but he plays hard. Getting rid of him will not address the real problem. It will only provide a cover for those refusing to identify the problem. Same for bringing in Ray Lewis or anyone else for that matter.

The problem is the culture of complacency. That begins at the top, with ownership, management and coaching, then filters down to the players. Until that problem is identified and addressed, nothing will change. And the Cowboys will continue to fade in December and collapse in January.

But, you know, it’s like I always say. There’s nothing I enjoy more than spending $1000 to travel to Dallas and watch the Cowboys lose a football game. That’s the stuff of life right there.

"Coaching is getting men to do what they do not want to do, in order to get them to achieve what they want to achieve." --Tom Landry

by The Soothsayer on Feb 14, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed

Jerry Jones is the daddy who allows his children to behave badly. But even when he allegedly let Parcells run everything, the team still underachieved (2005 and 2006, especially).

Frankly, the team mirrors society. A bunch of fat (some figuratively, some literally) players who think highly of themselves and who would rather complain, dance or go on vacation than dedicate themselves to excellence.

I don’t know how to fix it. The cure may be worse than the disease.

by DavidH22 on Feb 15, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

-1

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Feb 15, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

btw

I wasn’t saying I was exempt from this society that I criticized. Just to clarify.

by DavidH22 on Feb 15, 2009 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

agree to some extent

Jerry Jones has never seemed to me happy with a culture of complacency as you speak with. A complacent owner doesn’t sign pacman and tank, hoping to turn them around and improve the team. A complacent owner doens’t bring in BP.

And I’m sorry, nobody quits. Do they play poorly/undisciplined in december? yes. But you can’t quit playing football or you’ll get the snot knocked out of you. We didn’t quit in 2006/2007. We had a few drops here (terry glenn, patrick crayton, fasano), a poor qb decision or two, and the fumbled snap. We didn’t quit against baltimore. Did our safeties get out of position on two runs where they were the guys who needed to step up and make a play ? yes. Did Romo, faced with the first 14 point deficit in a must win situation in his career, completely unravel against philly? yes. But I think this notion that some people ahve that this team doesn’t try is absurd.

In my mind, the blame goes 100% on the coaches. It started with two decembers ago – you can’t allow a team playing poorly like we were in december to just have the weekend+ off. Romo gets all the blame for the trip to Cabo, but the bottom line is NOBODY should’ve been given time off, and that was obvious when we were just out of sync in the playoff game. This year, it took wade another 6 games to get these guys really playing well, and the reason it took so long is in large part because he waited too long to see what our rookie cbs had. Garrett managed to have the brain fart of the century and not use felix jones in the washington game. These are issues with complacency – not constantly seeing what you can do to improve the team. Not taking risks.

by foyesboys on Feb 15, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

If all the other guys suck..

I still cut/trade/waive TO..I don’t care if Roy E is done..Tony can’t be the one..Oline is old..Dline regresses..
TO must go..We have rationalized enough..He must go..NOW…

by bevomav on Feb 14, 2009 7:24 PM CST reply actions  

Soothsayer is hitting the nail on the head

This team has done nothing for sooo long. Jerry has to be smart enough to be getting closer to handing over the controls (or part of them) to Stephen. I just wish he didn’t seem so happy about being the center of attention (Jerry not Owens).

by DaBoys on Feb 14, 2009 7:32 PM CST reply actions  

Really nice post Glory

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 14, 2009 9:00 PM CST reply actions  

Wow great post Glory

This is what everyone should really be worried about. How does this offense function when you take away the 1 big threat on our team that keeps defensive coordinators up at night.

If you think the 8 yard curl to Witten keeps people up at night, you’re kidding yourself. And if you think that Witten will be open on those deep posts without T.O. drawing double coverage, you’re kidding yourself even more.

Letting T.O. go has a dramatic effect on every player on our offense.

by mhuff13 on Feb 14, 2009 9:50 PM CST reply actions  

Hope that the player on Offense that it affects the most is the CAT. Get him the ball.

I like Felix against any LB or safety there is. I was worried when they drafted him, but I like it now.

by DaBoys on Feb 14, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Cowboys Have Plenty of Skill Position Talent

Roy OU and Austin as the two WR; Crayton in slot; Two great TEs in Witten and Tellus; three great running backs in Felix, Choice and MBIII. Then there is Hurd, and Stanback for camp possibilities. And, we will have a chance to draft a WR who can double as a return man. What we need is a cohesive football team that does not have a cancer tumor embedded in it. Especially a cancer tumor that drops balls regularly, fails to run precise routes and is 35 going on 50.

by Iowacowboy on Feb 14, 2009 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes He Is

"Remember the several times he refused to put his head down and gain yardage for a first down? And, the ease with which TO is knocked off his game by a line of scrimmage bump; rough TO at the line, bring a safety over top and he is out of the play. TO was a nonfactor in so many games last year; he has lost a step. He is vastly overrated and mostly by Cowboy fans.

by Iowacowboy on Feb 14, 2009 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

1000 yard season 10 TDs

So obviously he is not a nonfactor.

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 14, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

TO

Is one of the most physical receivers playing. I’ve RARELY seen him go down as opposed to taking a hit if he thinks he can gain more yards by staying on his feet. I’ve argued against TO to his apologists, but his grit is unquestionable. Hands are suspect, yes. His toughness is not.

That said, I’m sure he’s declining in production, and his age is showing a bit these days, but not to the point where he’s still unable to perform at a high level. As a #1 option, his days are limited, but he can still be a great contributor to the offense.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Feb 14, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions  

how many times this year

have we thrown a quick screen and hes proceeded to get immediately tackled? he is not even close to the same player he was in philly in that regard.

And how about the inability to get off the bump? That is the practical definition of physical play for a wr, and he struggled badly with it for most of last year.

by foyesboys on Feb 15, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

What's going to happen when TO's gone

Witten isn’t going to be running down the middle of the field like he always does.

by Burt88 on Feb 15, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I dunno'

Guy was successful way before TO got here. He’ll continue to be successful when he’s gone. But yes, TO does make his job much easier.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Feb 15, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Dont forget that Wittens best year came when TO was on the team

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 16, 2009 12:15 AM CST up reply actions  

and a few other great years

came when he wasn’t….

Does TO make witten look better? sure. Does the fact that we have an all pro TE in witten help TO? Likewise, yes.

by foyesboys on Feb 16, 2009 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

agreed

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 16, 2009 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Why do people think that cutting T.O. will solve all our problems?

We are the Cowboys. The media will create problems for us, where there are none.

by mhuff13 on Feb 14, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Roy and Austin as the top two WRs and youre happy with that?

As Glory said, Roy has 1 1000 yard season in his career, and Austin only has 18 catches. Not to mention his numerous injury problems. This offense will struggle without TO

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 14, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Not as good as TO and Roy E

But certainly capable. Factor in Witten, Martellus, Crayton, and the running game, I’d say the offense could still be very effective, if used properly.

Not on the “cut TO” bandwagon at all, but my world certainly wouldn’t come to screeching halt should it happen.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Feb 14, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

"If used properly"

Easier said than done with this offensive coordinator

by Burt88 on Feb 15, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

No joke

But still, I’m not ready to quit on Garrett yet. Yes, his play calling was awful in the later portions of the season, but he still shows flashes of brilliance from time to time.

What confuses me most a bout Garrett is the fact that he personally said when he got here that he was surprised to see that the old regime didn’t utilize Owens in the slot or put him in motion, which is when he’s most dangerous. He did a lot of it his first year of calling plays, then almost completely abandoned that tactic this season. Pretty bizarre.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Feb 15, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Roy OU?

…. if you’re referring to the safety he went to OU. Roy the WR went to Texas.

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 8:00 AM CST up reply actions  

We don't need a team full of all stars

You don’t think this team will survive with Roy Williams, Crayton, Austin Witten, Fasano, Felix Jones, Barber and Choice?

Now, granted, this relies on Garrett to show more offensive creativity, but the bottom line is Austin, Jones and Bennet should more than make up for TO’s touches. Talent without TO is not the problem.

by foyesboys on Feb 15, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Question: Does Jerry actually like the circus atmosphere or was that just something he said to take the pressure off of the players? We’ll see. . .

by connery on Feb 14, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions  

I think he loves it

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Feb 14, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

To paraphrase Clinton, it's Jones, stupid.

Good article that deals with the second tier of problems facing this team. I know, I know, we can’t do anything about Jones himself. But, we can’t do anything about any of the other issues raised here either. We just get to pick what irritates us the most and bitch.

TO, Crayton, Garrett, and the rest of the players work in a dysfunctional organization. It’s no different than for any body else to have talent, but be working for the three stooges. You simply can’t and won’t be your best. Jones need only be sure that he is the problem.

We’ve heard nothing from Wade. The team is in meltdown, and the head coach is MIA. Jones wants the spotlight. Jones demands the spotlight. As long as that is the case, it won’t matter how much talent or how hard individual players work. Everyone will gather for training camp spouting the company line. But nothing will have fundamentally changed. The result will be similar to this year.

by steelyeyedmissle on Feb 14, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions  

Was the dysfunction what really caused the results of last year?

Or perhaps was it the unusual amount of injuries?

Sure is funny, that with the same cast of dysfunctional characters the year before, we went 13-3. Sure I know, I know…BUT WE LOST IN THE FIRST ROUND. I can hear it already. So did the Giants this year, are they dysfunctional? So have many other #1 seeds. The fact is we were a very dangerous team last year, with the same people and less injuries.

by mhuff13 on Feb 14, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

There were a lot of injuries

to be sure, but most teams battled through the same problems. It’s a part of the game, not an excuse.

That said, losing Romo for 3 games was devastating. It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds ;)

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Feb 15, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Name 1 team that battled through injuries to do anything in the playoffs

I’m sorry but it is an excuse. We don’t lose our starting QB for 3 games and the Philly game we can rest our starters.

Sure teams should overcome injuries, but this is not 1992. Free agency kills depth, and losing as many starters as we did will kill a team.

by mhuff13 on Feb 15, 2009 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

The Ravens and Steelers had their fair share of injuries

Although I think we still had it worse

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 15, 2009 1:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Parker was hurt early in the year

Honestly who else, other than Ward and Ben getting roughed up here and there. Don’t think they missed any games. It’s not like their Pro Bowl CB, Pro Bowl SS, starting OG, Pro Bowl QB, Pro Bowl Punter, rookie phenom RB, promising young WR, Pro Bowl RB, on and on and on….missed significant time this year….

I’m sure that many Pro Bowlers missing chunks of the year had nothing to do with our W-L record.

by mhuff13 on Feb 15, 2009 2:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Well Parker was out as you said

They also lost Mendenhal, they lost Bret Keisal, their starting LT, two starting CBs. Thye werent healthy this year.

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 15, 2009 3:10 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Don’t buy into the injuries excuse. Everyone has to deal with it. It’s called player development. Don’t buy into the garbage of the “13 pro bowlers”. That was over-rated as well. Great teams, like the Patriots deal with injuries and find ways to win. Sure, they didn’t make the playoffs last year, but if they had been in the NFC, they would have. With all the injuries they had on defense, they only lost 5 games. I’m not a Patriot fan, but give them credit, how many teams do you know of that lose their QB,RB,LB (Thomas) and still almost make the playoffs?

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

It was damn near robbery

The fact that they were 11-5 and were left out of the playoffs. Pretty scary stuff.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Feb 15, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Injuries...

aren’t an excuse but they did hurt.

The Patriots are a better coached team in a weaker division.

And.. they had a capable backup QB.

And.. they had a capable backup QB.Of course as we all know they have no good players, but are all just purely part of a system. (Sarcasm)

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

I know I’m fixing to start another hot debate, but what the heck (deep breath). Too many people like to use the word scheme/system. The truth of the matter, the good teams, like (gulp) NE and Pitt. know how to develop players. Apparently, we are lacking in this area or we wouldn’t be using a 40 yr. old QB, and inferior O Line. If we ever want to be in the same class as NE or Pitt. we must develop players from within.

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh I know....

I was just being sarcastic.

Good coaching and scheme are great, as long as you have the people to fit into them.

You’re right thought. Pittsburg and New England get players and they make them buy into their role. I don’t believe in rah rah leadership, but when you have every player buying into one goal, you can accomplish alot.

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I knew you were being sarcastic

I was referring to some others that thinks that all Pitt players are not really all that good. They just fit into a scheme. I was trying to stir the pot a little. We’ll see if anyone picks up

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Scheme is overrated anyways...

Norv Turner has a great scheme too, but it isn’t like the guys that he makes look good aren’t talented.

He just does a great job of finding what is great about a player and maximizing the ability.

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

we all like to think that

but how did the giants deal with an injury to jacobs and the plax problem? they crashed and burned.

Now, imagine if they had jacobs playing at well less then 90% most of the year, eli out for 3 games, webster playing hurt for quite a few, diehl playing with no arms for 3 games,and if feagles had been on IR the last 10 games.

Imagine the eagles with westbrook playing hurt for most fo teh year and missing the last 5 games, mcnabb out 3, runyan hurt for 3, samuel hurt for a good portion of the season, etc. How would they fare??

No matter how great most teams are, an injury to their qb will railroad them. Few teams go 2-1 when facing the rams, bucs and giants for that period of games without their qb.

by foyesboys on Feb 15, 2009 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

aside from the pats of course

Who seem to have the greatest bunch of coaches/scouts the nfl has ever seen. The replace cbs with guys off the street and don’t miss a beat. Before 2006, they had a constant rotation at wr as many of their players suffered injuries, and that didn’t impact them. Their HOF qb goes down in week 1 last year and by week 7 they look like a good nfl offense. This isn’t the norm for the nfl – the pats are in a class of their own in this regard.

by foyesboys on Feb 15, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I won't argue any of your points, however

the Pats weren’t getting the slobber knocked out of them as much as we were all year long (NFC East), not to mention that lovely December schedule we had last year. But you’re right, NE does know how to find back ups better than anyone else in the NFL. Having said that I must go wash out my mouth, cuz I just vomited a little.

by Benthere on Feb 15, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Yeah, that’s pretty hard for me to admit to but as they say it is what it is and the Pats do have an excellent system of developing and plugging in players when someone goes down. I must admit, I was shocked when Cassel did so well. I thought, for sure, they would bottom out but they survived.

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

o i completely agree

give us their schedule and we finish with 11 wins at least. heck, maybe 13.

But take romo away and we have about 7 wins with their schedule I think.

by foyesboys on Feb 16, 2009 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Romo out for 3 games

did hurt, I’m not going to lie. Had they gone 2-1 in that period as opposed to 1-2, things would be a lot different right now. A lot less doom and gloom, I’m sure.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Feb 15, 2009 3:32 AM CST up reply actions  

When they lost the Rams game

I knew that would be the one they regretted. They march down the field for seven on the opening drive, and then they just quit. Even with no QB they should beat the Rams.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Feb 15, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I Disagree that having Romo for 3 more games would have made a difference

So if Romo doesn’t get hurt, the Cowboys win perhaps one additional game and make the playoffs. Then what? Based on the last four games, especially the Eagles game, it was pretty obvious that this team (which was never really a t-e-a-m) was so dysfunctional that it was virtually incapable of winning against quality competition. So we would be looking back at a season where the Cowboys lost in the first round of the playoffs as opposed to being eliminated from playoffs the last game of the season. Very, very little difference there.

Let’s not sugarcoat things. The Dallas Cowboys are not one player or one less injury away from being Super Bowl contenders. This team has structural and leadership problems that make it virtually impossible for the organization to contend for Super Bowl titles as currently constructed.

In my humble opinion, the three biggest problems with the Cowboys, in order of severity, are:

1. First and foremost, Jerry Jones must stop crossing over into the Head Coaches area of responsibility. It sends mixed messages, undermines the Head Coach and in general creates a culture where lack of responsibility and accountability are rampant and selfishness reigns. It bears repeating: this is a nice collection of toys, but not a Team.

2. Second, Wade Phillips is a bad Head Coach. He is a great Defensive Coordinator, but a poor Head Coach. The qualities that make a good coordinator and different than those a Head Coach needs. Even if Jerry Jones would butt out, Wade Phillips would be incapable of leading this team.

3. Third, Tony Romo needs to make football the number one priority in his life 12 months a year and somehow create a fire in his belly that only winning can put out. Right now, football is just one of many things going on in his life. It needs to be virtually the only thing. Only then will he be able to be the Leader of the Dallas Cowboys. The other 52 players don’t look to Romo as a leader because the success of the Cowboys simply isn’t that important to him.

The problems TO creates are a distant fourth – releasing him won’t cure what ails Dallas.

by Cowboy Louie on Feb 15, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

#2 is pretty much spot on

Love his defense, hate the way he runs the team. The more I think about it, the more I convince myself he’s not just a bad HC, but a terrible one. Even if he were to win the Super Bowl, I’d still think it.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Feb 15, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's obvious football is Romo's life

but wanting him to think football 24/7 in the offseason is stupid, because then you’re looking at burnout in the immediate future.

Players have to get away from the game for a few months after the season

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 15, 2009 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

weeks not months

TELL MITCH ALBOM THAT IF HE'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH BLOGGERS, THEN HE CAN COME SEE ME IN THE OCTAGON.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 15, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree

there is no reason why players need to focus on football until march, no reason at all.

5 months of off season prep before camp is plenty of time.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 16, 2009 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

how did the cardinals fare their last 5?

and the eagles had an incredibly embarassing loss to washington.

you saying you don’t think we could beat minnesota? 5 of our 7 losses came against the 4 championship teams + Giants. we lost to the rams without romo.

BTW….i find it very very interesting that there is absolutely constant criticism of Romo, yet little to none of TO, and his life is every bit as much a celebrity of life as Romo’s. who is coming out with their own reality series this year?? Who played in the celebrity basketball game this weekend?

by foyesboys on Feb 15, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

+1 about the Cards

If we had of made the playoffs who knows what would have happened

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 16, 2009 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

End of the season

Yes, I’m saying that in my opinion we would not have beaten Minnesota or any other playoff team. Unlike the Cardinals and Eagles, at the end of the season the Cowboys had no Leadership, Heart or Desire. That is because we are dysfunctional due to items #1, #2 and #3 that I listed above. Other teams have their own problems, but our two biggest ones are structural so they impact every member of the team. Again, just my opinion and we’ll never know one way or another.

On the other topic you raised, I do draw a distinction between Romo and TO because Tony Romo is the starting quarterback. That is a special, unique position on a professional football team. Teams look to their quarterback for leadership, not prima dona wide receivers. I am far less concerned with what TO does during the off-season that Romo, though I would of course like to see him at Valley Ranch as well.

Finally, there isn’t “absolutely constant criticism” of Romo in my posts and very little on this Board. I call it like I see it, both good and bad. The only "absolute constant" on this board that I am aware of is Terry’s 25+ e-mails per day defending Romo, which are well within his right to do.

by Cowboy Louie on Feb 16, 2009 6:20 AM CST up reply actions  

No heart, leadership, desire?

What do you call our games against the steelers and giants? We were a few poor throws by romo and 2 blown coverages by newman from beating the most physical teams in the league back to back weeks.

In baltimore, we didn’t lose because we didn’t want it more. We lost because we the qb had a couple turnovers, he and TO couldn’t hook up on that long pass, we blew 1 or 2 opportunities on defense, and then late in the foruth, the two safeties just didn’t do their job. Baltimore is a very good football team with a great defense.

And my point wasn’t that you inparticular criticized romo, just that TO leads every bit the celebrity lifestyle romo does and I haven’t heard a single word about it.

You don’t put up a fight against baltimore, pitt, and the giants if you have no heart.

by foyesboys on Feb 16, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll give ya that point

Dallas did put up a spirited fight against the Steelers and Giants, so perhaps my comment was too all-encompassing. However, the debacle against the Eagles has left such a bad taste in my mouth that I cannot see this team moving to the next level without major structural and leadership changes.

by Cowboy Louie on Feb 16, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I think what makes us question this team even more

is all the talking that players have said since the Philly game such as Romo and Roy Williams. By some comments, it has made me question the leadership of QB and coaches.

by texstar on Feb 16, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't question the QB

question the HC. You remember how sick Romo was after the bobble in Seattle? Compare that reaction to the one after the Eagles game. Dramatically different, just like the two HCs for both of those games.

by cow_fanatic on Feb 16, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

That's exactly why I'm questioning Romo.

What happened to that guy that sat in front of his locker and cried because he let his team now? Now, he seems to accept defeat . Not what you want from your leader

by texstar on Feb 16, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Change the HC

and you get your old Romo back

by cow_fanatic on Feb 16, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Romo was beat up and beat down by the end of this long season.

He didnt lose this game in the last minute. He knew this was over 1 minute into the second.

Was it written that JJ was 1hour late for the plane for this game.

If thats the case its a clear indication his focus was else where. I bet you that he spent too much time working on the new stadium. Naming rights production problems, logistics, recruiting games ect…

Our Gm had his head up the wrong ass. Thats another example of this team having even less leadership.

by squidlo97 on Feb 16, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Two comments

First, if Romo was ‘beat up and beat down by this long season’, then how is he going to find the mental fortitude to excell in a season that lasts an entire month longer….through January? Other players do it, why is Romo finding it so hard to make it through the last four games? Part of being a Leader is finding the mental fortitude to play BETTER when you are beaten up and beaten down and when the games mean more, not less.

As for your comment on Jerry Jones, I would rather have him focusing on things like the new stadium than continuing to stick his nose in the daily management of the team. I wish he wouldn’t even fly on the team charter to any away games.

by Cowboy Louie on Feb 17, 2009 6:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I hope next year his line plays much better.

I hope the offense is in better sync where he doesnt feel the need to hold on the ball to long trying to make a play. I hope he doesnt break a bone in his throwing hand. I hope he doesnt have to go into a work envireoment where everyone is mouthing off and throwing each other under the bus. I hope his WR run their mouths less and their routes longer.

As far as JJ goes, I have accepted what wont change. Its alot less stressful.

by squidlo97 on Feb 17, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Please elaborate

First, I’m glad you recognize Romo has changed. However, I’m interested in why you think the Old Romo will be back with a change in the head coach.

by Cowboy Louie on Feb 17, 2009 6:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm just using what I see

Romo may be a good leader if he has a good leader to follow. Does that make sense?

He may be a chamelion leader in that he takes the atmosphere or climate established by others and then leads based on that precedent. Based on the way things were said and done when Bill was here, he leads based on that. He’s now changed his leadership style based on the precedent set by Wade.

May have to have a disciplinarian style coach in order to have Romo be the leader you want

by cow_fanatic on Feb 17, 2009 6:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I do agree that

Romo does bneed to have a disciplinarian style coach because he tends to be too laid back and non-chalant about protecting the football. Now, I know some of you get tired of comparing him to Aikman, but it’s well documented that Switzer was waaaay laid back but it didn’t hold back Aikman from being the leader. I would venture to say, that where we are lacking not necessarily from the H.C. but from Garrett and Wade Wilson. It has been said that what made players upset in practice was the fact that Romo was making some of the same errors that carried over into the game but Garrett wouldn’t correct him. Many people seem to have forgotten that Romo was throwing interceptions last training camp, but he kept saying don’t worry about it, it’s just training camp and we are trying some new things out. Well, it looks like it affected his game if you ask me.

by texstar on Feb 17, 2009 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Romo's TD/INT ratio

was 2 to 1, which is pretty good if you ask me.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 17, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

+1000000 texstar....

It is the responsibility of Jason Garrett and Wade Wilson to rectify Romo’s problems or shortcomings, and work on his flaws…..

Wade Philips has absolutely nothing to do with Romo’s regression…or the offense in general…

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 18, 2009 6:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Numba1

You seem to follow coaches, who would be a good QB coach cause I don’t think Wilson cuts it?

by texstar on Feb 18, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm doubtful he'd be interested in coaching..

But my favorite QB coach has always been former Cincy/Tampa HC Sam Wyche…..According to Wikepedia…he’s currently offensive coordinator for some high school team…lmao…so i think he’s available..but he’s basically retired (64+ years old), and he suffered a stroke a few years back, and i’m sure he’s enjoying his stress free life, but he was always a very passionate coach, and made the most of his QB’s (Ken Anderson, Boomer Esiason, Testeverde)…BUT…If i was in the know, and held power in Dallas front office..I would bring Wyche in to evaluate and consult Romo, Garrett, and Wilson…….

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 19, 2009 6:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Eagles game

would not have mattered if the Cowboys had won two of those games. Eagles would have been eliminated and not even up for that game. It came down to the Cowboys showing up flat against an Eagle team who still had a spark of life left that Reid stoked into an inferno against us. Our coaches got out coached and our players got outplayed.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 16, 2009 8:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Unless something drastic is done then I’d have to agree with you.

by connery on Feb 14, 2009 10:19 PM CST reply actions  

TO is a Symptom

Jones trying to be a coach and a GM is the underlying disease. Cutting TO is the most important evidence that will prove Jones knows he has a problem. Cutting TO will not solve everything, just like not drinking cures alcoholism But, not drinking is the first step to curing the ills of alcoholism, just like cutting TO is the first step to curing this underacheiving overhyped football team. Please Jerry, pull the trigger and send him packing; send a message you don’t mess with the franchise QB and the only All Pro not named Ware. Bye TO; go blow up somebody else’s football team.

by Iowacowboy on Feb 14, 2009 10:34 PM CST reply actions  

Like you said, underachieving overhyped football TEAM

No one player did that to us. It was a collective failure.

Some fans are like the MSM. When all other amounts of reasoning fail, blame T.O. for all of life’s problems.

by mhuff13 on Feb 14, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Excellent article

Certainly better than most being published or showing up on sports sites. You should be getting paid for this, good sir.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Feb 15, 2009 12:02 AM CST reply actions  

december 07 we had a chance to see how this offense worked without TO.
It wasn’t good at all… I admit Roy will help alleviate SOME of the problem, but I don’t think you all realize that TO’s “production” isn’t all in his receptions and touchdowns (which were still what? top 5 in the league?) Do you think defensive coordinators will care as much about Roy as they do about TO?
If TO leaves, expect to see a horrible offense that can’t run the ball because the defenses are stacking the box. Expect to see more sacks because they’re not afraid to send that 5th or 6th person in on the blitz every other play.

And until Roy can prove he needs to be doubled just about every play, expect really long, hard, heart breaking games.

by mahuebel on Feb 15, 2009 12:27 AM CST reply actions  

+1

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 15, 2009 1:11 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Correct, that’s what will happen if TO’s cut

by Burt88 on Feb 15, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

We didn't have Roy, Felix, Choice or Bennet

And Austin still couldn’t catch at that point

How can you honestly compare then to now?

by foyesboys on Feb 15, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

The sad thing is

Winning cures all “chemistry” issues in one fell swoop.
Great post Glory.

by Benthere on Feb 15, 2009 1:47 AM CST reply actions  

yep

couple of games go our way, we beat minnesota, possibly the giants who we seem to always play well against, and then how would we view this team? They’d still be the same bunch of misfits that are overly penalized with a qb who has turnover problems, a group of safeties that are well below average and a controversy in TO. But we wouldn’t see all these haters come out of the woodwork.

by foyesboys on Feb 15, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions  

OK.....

I happen to think that Roy will be fine since Detroit took the place of NO as the armpit of the NFL where good players went to die.
Now can he be a top #1 like TO =big question there. I think he can be like a top 7-8 WR in the NFL. That is of course several places down from TO. BUT if we can get Austin to maintain his progress then with Crayton we have a very balanced 3 WR attack that with the overwhelming strength of our TE with Witten and Bennett to add to our three headed monster of a RB corps then we have as much if not more firepower then any offense in the NFL. The TALENT is there. Now the real question is the discipline and drive there- frankly the answer right now is NO.

TO. The more people push Jerruh the more stubborn he gets. He painted himself into a corner with the coach situation by insisting there will be no changes there while at the same time insisting that there would be change without changing the coaches. Even he has got to know how bad that sounds. The long and the short of it is that with so many insisting that TO is gone Jerruh just seems to naturally go the exact opposite direction.
So honestly I see TO coming back this season.

Without a major attitude adjustment there will be no real change. I guess its posible without a major shake up of the staff but I really doubt it.

by burmafrd1944 on Feb 15, 2009 1:54 AM CST reply actions  

Detroit may be the armpit of the NFL

But Calvin Johnson was and will be amazing there.

But I also think he’s by far the most talented WR in football, so not a very fair comparison.

by mhuff13 on Feb 15, 2009 2:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Calvin Johnson is a very special player

Roy Williams is not. He may be a good #1 WR, but he will never be great. Johnson on the other hand…

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 15, 2009 3:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Roy E

Has got a lot of football left to play. I wouldn’t be so sure he won’t live up to TO’s standard just yet…

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Feb 15, 2009 3:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Well after an equal number of seasons TO had

38 more receptions
676 more yards
13 more TDs.

So TO has a significant lead in their production comparison for the begining of their respective careers. If Roy wants to keep up with TO’s standards and catch up to his production, over the next two seasons he would need to:

231 more receptions
3388 more yards
42 more TDs.

So if in the next two years Roy was to live up to TO’s standards he would need both years to be significantly better than his previous best year.

Roy is no TO.

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 15, 2009 5:04 AM CST up reply actions  

btw if Roy does average 115 recs, 1700 yards and 26 TDs over the next two years I will admit I was wrong

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 15, 2009 5:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Certianly not yet

And no, when you look at the overall career, Roy E will never be at TO’s level. I’m just talking about his current productivity. I’m fairly certain Roy E could be a GOOD receiver in this league.

I would never argue that Roy E’s career could ever live up to TO’s. But as far as current output, I’m sure he could get to where TO’s at right now.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Feb 15, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats what im saying

To me a great player is someone in the discussion for best ever, or at least very close to that level. I was just saying that Calvin could be there one day whereas Roy wont be.

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 15, 2009 4:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Calvin will be there one day

To have the season he had on the worst team in NFL history is absurd. He was the only player defenses would focus on on that offense and he still put up monster numbers. Not to mention he is a physical freak.

by witten82 on Feb 15, 2009 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully for him he gets out of Detroit and finds a good qb

or else he might just be the guy that could have been…

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 16, 2009 12:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Compare TO’s numbers to Mike Irvin’s. TO would kill him.
But Mike is the better player and we all know it.

by connery on Feb 15, 2009 6:11 AM CST reply actions  

Fine, let me save everyone the trouble. Roy Williams is no Irvin. Granted.
But based on numbers. . .

by connery on Feb 15, 2009 6:22 AM CST reply actions  

No actually

I’m a huge Irvin fan, HUUUUUGE, but as far as just skill goes?

Owens is one of the top 5 wide receivers of all time, Irvin is not.

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 8:02 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 16, 2009 12:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree

Owens really has it all physically.

But…does anyone else feel like if you put irvin on this team we have more than one playoff win by now? Irvins a leader. Something that noone on this team can claim to be.

by foyesboys on Feb 16, 2009 12:32 AM CST up reply actions  

GD I'm a huuuuge fan...

And I love your article, I’m just burnt out on TO talk.

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 8:17 AM CST reply actions  

The last point is the most important one

We didn’t have this circus with basically the same players when Bill was here(I apologize for another Parcells reference but the contrast of him and Wade is too much to ignore).

When Wade was hired I said two things the day we hired him:
 
1. When changing from a disciplinarian to a player’s coach the first year doesn’t show
    the problems with lack of discipline, the second year does

2. We are back to hiring unproven friends to the players

I was right on both accounts which brings me to 88’s post. The players that seem to be engulfed in criticism inside the locker room are basically the same ones Bill was coaching. T.O., Crayton(please stop talking), Witten, Romo, Roy W, Barbie(why are you talking) were all here under the same roof but now are devisive in their own ways regardless of accuracy. Bill handled possible or perceived locker room problems one way, his way, and they never were brought to the surface or to the media. You think there would have been as many as 5 “unnamed sources” when he was here? No way.

The players here for both coaches never gave the locker room over to Wade as much as they were just glad Bill didn’t have it any longer. As timed passed the players then took over the room while Wade stood on the sideline stuttering and stammering trying to decide if he was going to send the punt team out or throw the red flag.

Now for the players that were not here while Bill was and are making such a stir, think of the balls necessary to do and say basically anything they want.

Roy E wanted out of Detroit, no question. So Jerry rescues him and signs him to an extension that any #1 receiver would be proud to have. Then in 1/2 of a year he catches the equivalent of what T.O. catches in one game and starts chattering? Are you kidding me? He’s talking to the media about not getting the ball enough, criticizing his OC along the way and then talks about how Detroit practices harder then the Boys? Does this happen with a coach with control over the team? No

Martellus Bennett, who has maturity issues regardless of the coaching staff, is starting his own hip hop fan club as “Marty B” on you tube one season in to his career. Did anyone see Marty B taking galsses of water out to Wade his first TC? I didn’t. You think he performs as Marty B in his first offseason in the NFL if Bill was still here? He probably does but regrets it his next training camp when he’s bringing water again to the HC and running sprints to bring him down a notch or two.

Regarding T.O., he is who he is and will always be in my opinion. When we signed him initially I knew what came with it and was okay with that because I knew what he brought on the field. However, if you assume his #s will decline with age and add to it that he is a conduit for others to express their concerns to the media, it could be characterized as a classic example of addition by subtraction.

Think of it this way. T.O. has the #s and the outspokenness(made up word I think) to lead the faction of his supporters over the cliff and they will follow him without strong leadersip. If he was removed, who takes his place? Noone. There isn’t another player in the locker room with his own following.

We are looking for a short term solution to our problems since it appears this coaching staff will be here another year. In looking for this elusive short-term solution, please remember, T.O. is not a long term asset to this team. Put the two together and bite the bullet.

by cow_fanatic on Feb 15, 2009 8:37 AM CST reply actions  

The players talking

how about Newman? He used to never talk when Parcells was here, but now he never shuts up! Am I right or wrong?

by Burt88 on Feb 15, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I knew I would forget some

but that is another example, you’re right. Isn’t it funny how much the players are talking now and yet you can’t get Wade to address the team after the season ended?

by cow_fanatic on Feb 15, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Someone needs to print this out and hand it to da King.

You’re so on point here, Glory!

Hopefully Mr. Jones will take ALL OF THESE THINGS into consideration before making any kind of decision that involves releasing The Original #81.

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by silverblue5 on Feb 15, 2009 8:57 AM CST reply actions  

Cut TO...

And this team at best will be 8-8 next year. I promise.

0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.

by gee-roj on Feb 15, 2009 9:23 AM CST reply actions  

You don't know that...

And you have no circumstantial evidence to back it up either.

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Defenses will simply crowd the line to stop the run...

And single cover the wide outs knowing they have nothing to worry about. They’ll double Witten in passing situations and continue to press the wide outs knowing that with Owens gone none of the remaining receivers are any kind of treat.

0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.

by gee-roj on Feb 16, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

They have the weapons even with

the sbupar recievers we will have left. I know it is the WCO but the Eagles make it go with substandard receivers. If you have the personel in the correct position running the correct plays the offense still works.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 16, 2009 8:17 AM CST up reply actions  

But that's just it...

They never do have the personel in the correct position running the correct plays

0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.

by gee-roj on Feb 16, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Having or

not having T.O. on the team is not going to change that. I understant that JG was a Sophomore coordinator, but that is a flimsy at best excuse. If JG really can’t figure out how to utilize his talent pool then maybe he wasn’t the “Red Genius” everyone thought.

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by GunsUp on Feb 16, 2009 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Let me ask a question

Do you think this team can win the SB next year with T.O. on it?

Do you think this team can win the SB next year with T.O. not on it?

by cow_fanatic on Feb 15, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

That's the part that drives me nuts

Is Romo so immature that he can’t over-look a receiver asking for the ball? Ask any QB (Aikman) and they will tell you that all receivers yap for the ball constantly. As a QB, you just block it out. You can’t blame Romo’s poor decision making on the field to TO. That’s just a cop-out to say that.

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah but this is the thing...

Romo isn’t just throwing it to him, I think sometimes he’s being told to try and get him the ball more.

I mean… which is why we saw toss plays to him.

I don’t even think it’s all immaturity, I think part of it is because Owens tends to disappear from games if he doesn’t get the ball early.

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

This is an interesting point

How many times have we heard wade say “We need to get TO the ball more”? I feel like he says that a lot, almost as if to pacify TO so he doesn’t have to deal with any controversy

by foyesboys on Feb 16, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Eventually Romo needs to step up and hold these guys acountable.

I just dont think their are very many guys if any that will give TO any crap for giving up on routes. It would be a full blown fight on the sideline. The problem most guys will shout and it will be over. With TO it wont ever be over. Wrong or right TO wont be shutting up for weeks. You saw the show in Philly. You saw the harm done to the city.

Lert me remind the guys who think TO was right about that. He forced his way out of SF. Got a trade over turn with the Ravens lobbied for the Eagles signed a contract and one year later felt he was disrespected. Situps on te drive way and totally wrecked their entire year with the circus.

 If Romo was already that wiley vetean I could see him taking TO to task but he hasnt had a chance to stretch his wings or won a playoff or SB. TO is not the guy to get your wings tested.

by squidlo97 on Feb 15, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

I guess that’s TO’s fault as well-LOL

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Some of those fumbles can easily be corrected. Bad fundamentals

Holding the ball to long trying to make a play. A way from body with one hand, ect. He definitely needs to improve decicion making at times. Some decisions were awfu. For every completely awful decision that led to a pick and can think of a WR giving up on a route.
That said the QB will make the most mistakes, he has the ball the most, however somebody has to speak up and if we are waiting on an error free player it will never happen.

by squidlo97 on Feb 15, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

but I would rather Romo not make up excuses after the game like “I’m just trying to make a play” or “an interception is just as good as a punt”. I don’t know about you but that ticks me off coming from my QB. To me it just shows immaturity and not be accountable. If he doesn’t hold himself accountable, why should the other players hold themselves accountable? I just want my leader to accept criticism. As Moose Johnston said, Aikman took all the criticism on his shoulders even when it wasn’t his fault, because he was the leader.

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Its funny, I made that same comment about int good as a punt before that game

and then he double clutches and throws up that wounded duck he had no business throwing, that Reed returns. That wasnt exactly what I meant. Your right he has some serious maturing issues. He needs to take over. Question is, Is he capable and will TO accept it, Romo getting on him.

I remember a comment made by Stink(cant think of his name) 2 years ago along the lines that TO thinks he is grooming Romo and everything is great but what happens in a couple of years when Romo is past all that, what happens when the relationship changes. I remember thinking when he said it damm I hope thats not the case. Turns out there might be something to what he said. I think that is the biggest reason I fear TO the personality(not the talent). If every one comes back next year and we start off slow or go though rough times(injuries) early will we implode. Will we have what it takes to survive adversity.

by squidlo97 on Feb 15, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

what most annoyed me about the end of the season is the confusion between romo and the wrs, and it seemed like nobody, not Romo, not TO, not Roy said anything or seemed to know what was going on. NONE of these guys are offensive leaders. TO included. Maybe Romo will develop into one, but to know that he needs to assert himself.

by foyesboys on Feb 15, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Very valid point

Romo does need to assert himself more. If he feels TO is pressuring him into throwing the ball his way and hindering his game, he should by all means call him out on it. Sure, it would be unpopular with TO, but he’s well aware this is his last chance to prove himself as a HoFer. He’d pout, but deal with it.

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by the red scare on Feb 15, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Bingo

plus, by all accounts TO wants to retire as a Cowboy.

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

yes and yes

The defense played great, championship caliber football from the washington game – 3rd quarter fo the baltimore game. Why can’t they play that well next year??

The offense has a ton of weapons – they’re success as a unit doens’t revolve around TO, it revolves around a. the oline and b. garrett’s creativity. Garrett has a threat in felix jones that few teams in this league has – utilize him correctly with an extra 7 touches a game and you already have made up for a bunch of TO’s production.

by foyesboys on Feb 15, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

The thing is...

I’m not even against Owens being here next year, but he’s not the end all be all of everything football.

Dallas could definitly win more then 8 games, they playing the freaking AFC West next year.

It would mean more creativity and better run blocking but just to say “they’ll go 8-8” is just pulling it out of a hat.

They’re still a talented team, even with the circus.

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

All I really know is ..........

…..I wish I were a fly on the wall during some of these meetings, both among Jones AND among the players..

by John Boy on Feb 15, 2009 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

I can't stand TO

I think he is a cancer in the lockerroom. But he has already done his damage to the work habits of the young players. Bringing in an old-school, tough coach could improve the situation. But cutting 1 player probably won’t have much of an impact. Short-term, unless the Cowboys staff have figured out that TO will never be able to get off press coverage (and thus will never be an effective receiver again), I don’t see how you cut him. Short-term, Roy Williams is a HUGE step down from Owens.

My worst fear is that Jerry decides to get cute and replace TO with Chad Johnson.

by JimmyJohnson on Feb 15, 2009 10:14 AM CST reply actions  

How does Terrell Owens damage anyone's work habits.

Thats the one thing you cant say about him.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 15, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...

He’s not like how Deion Sander was.

It isn’t like he doesn’t try, I think his problem is more that he is more about him than his team.

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

I believe every player is responsible for themselves right? That’s a cop-out. Being out of shape,lazy work out habits are up to each player.

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

He works out and is a physical specimen

But he can’t be bothered to work 10 minutes a day on the simple techniques that will give him a clean release when he’s bumped. He doesn’t feel obliged to go to meetings on time. He didn’t bother to learn the playbook his whole first year with the team. Maybe he can compensate with athleticism (like deion), but it gives the younger players the impression that that is how it’s done. Bottom-line 81 is no 88.

That said, aside from a new, tough coach, getting rid of TO won’t undo the damage he’s done. We are better off this year with him than without him.

by JimmyJohnson on Feb 15, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay

Yes, T.O. needs to work more on technique, but there are no “simple techniques” for beating the press. It is an art form, and the only ones who do not struggle with the press are the exceptionally quick.

As far as the meetings, no one else is showing up on time either.

The whole playbook thing is heresay.

And even the almighty Parcells said that T.O.’s practice habits set a good example for the other players.

Michael Irvin is my all-time favorite Cowboy (hence GloryDayz88), but 88 is no 81.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 15, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree.

I think that Owens is a perfect target.

Not that its not somewhat warranted, he created the persona that gets hounded, but one guy doesn’t create what the Dallas Cowboys locker room have.

I have NO problem with the rants on the sideline honestly. I have no problem with wanting the ball more. I like the fact that he wants to make an impact on the game.

The only thing that bothers me about Owens, is that he does tend to fade away if he doesn’t get targeted early and often.

I just wish that by this part of his career he could look at the field and say “If they are going to double and triple team me then I’m going to do everything to draw coverage away from others. I’ll do anything to win.”

Not just him, all of the guys. It seems like there are too many individuals worried about numbers.

But, maybe I’m wrong.

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe we have handcuffed ourselves ...

Players worry about numbers because numbers influence future contracts and incentives within a contract. This helps drive the ME attitude to the forefront and pushes the TEAM more to the background. Many players can see beyond that but others are not so gifted.

by GalTex on Feb 15, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I think players are scared of him because he knocked out Hugh Douglas.

And yes, please no Chad.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Feb 15, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I find it kinda interesting that Hugh Douglas

is now criticizing McNabb for not being a leader. He’s the same one that TO got into a fight with in Philly. I’m not trying to defend TO but am I the only one that finds it interesting that everyone was jumping onto TO when the Douglas thing happened but no-one is saying anything about Douglas’ criticism of McNabb?

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

It's funny that he's a defensive guy

criticizing the “team leading abilities” of offensive players. He’s got his own side of the ball to worry about.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Feb 15, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree and

when TO was there, it was all TO’s fault. Now, he comes out and criticizes McNabb? I just find that kinda interesting. The media doesn’t seem to want to pick up on that.

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I criticized McNabb too when he picked up that phone on the sidelines

in the playoffs and got an unsportsmanlike penalty for doing so.
Spacecase.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Feb 15, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I forgot about that.

I have never liked McNabb (too cocky for my taste). I just find it kinda interesting that the media wanted to blame everything on TO when he was there and now they have turned on McNabb. Interesting that Douglas is yapping again.

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

The big circus was the contract. TO turned it into something else and threw McNabb under the bus.

All of the sudden the problem is McNabb. True McNabb should have shut up but not that easy.

by squidlo97 on Feb 15, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn good article, Glory.

Damn good.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Feb 15, 2009 11:57 AM CST reply actions  

Great Article, GD88

Very cool-headed and objective analysis. I wish there were more articles like yours’.

by kindablue on Feb 15, 2009 1:50 PM CST reply actions  

Great post! I think you hit the nail on all of my concerns

Yester day I felt strongly on certain topics. Today Im wavering a bit. Its just not like me not to have an opinion but this team, these problems have me for a loss. There is so much BS going on. I see no leadership from JJ or Wade. Veterans are pointing fingers and whining. Divided camps, ect…………………………………………………………………………………….

What I do know is our SB chance window is HERE. If we dont put this thing together quickly and win some meaningful games in January then 10 years from now, when these guys grow up ,and all of us now, are going to be sick to our stomachs every time we look back on this era. This could very well be our worst ever times for our team. At least when we were 1-15 I knew we sucked and I could live with that. This is a cluster f&&k.

Maybe, just maybe JJ and Wade are letting these guys blow off steam from a crappy year. Get it all off of your chest. Let them all say what they all need to say and then Let them take a good hard look at their play, preparation, attitude, and actions. Then regather and refocus in March for OTAs and map out our path and fix these guys attitudes. If these guys have any pride or self respect they need to take a good look in the mirror and in the reflections they will find the root of their problems. I hate to sound sactimonious(sp) but these guys arent nothing but a bunch of whiney punks. Its pretty disgraceful.This is the first time ever Im embarrassed of the Cowboys.

Sorry I needed to vent.

by squidlo97 on Feb 15, 2009 2:21 PM CST reply actions  

Great read.

I echo your sentiment, this team has many problems. I agree I hope Jerry doesn’t think by just letting TO go it fixes everything.

Unless I am missing something Jerry still hasn’t hired a DC.

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by Wmillion on Feb 15, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions  

Great story Glory

I am now convinced that T.O is not anywhere near the biggest problem at Valley Ranch. I am not a big jj fan , mostly because of his recent coaching selection but, I do believe he tries to get the best team he can on the field. I believe this is a talented bunch. But I see only a few players with the hunger and heart or drive to close the deal. As I said I believe the coaching is a joke and the play calling was almost as bad. It seemed that we lost all ability to make the needed adjustments to make use of what was being given to us. As far as the draft goes, this should be one for quality not quantity. Group the picks we have and move up into the second and third rounds to get our safety and linebackers or lineman. I don’t think we need 9 to 11 new players on this team. If we are going to go to a stronger running game we had better get some mean linemen because the ones we have now don’t show a lot of life at times. This group should be able to dominate, but thats not what I saw last season. I hope somebody lights a fire under their butts to get them going this year. Thanks again for the great post.

by oldboysfan on Feb 15, 2009 7:24 PM CST reply actions  

Wow

Once again a realistic reaction.

Good post guy.

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

There appear to be several major problems with the team right now, and they exist at virtually every level (owner, head coach, offensive coordinator, position coaches, offensive line, maturity of QB, roster depth). Focusing in on the very real problems created by Terrell Owens to the exclusion of all the others is a road to futility.

by kindablue on Feb 15, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

what will be really interesting is what happens to some of the guys doing the complaining about TO if they decide to dump him. This will put even more pressure on them to perform or they will be exposed as well. Who are they going to complain about then?

by texstar on Feb 15, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

On a draft note...

I don’t know that much about safety Mike Brown, but I just saw he was released from the Bears.

I know he used to be pretty damn good but has been injury prone as of late.

Think Dallas would look at him, or would he even be worth it?

by AirforceBat on Feb 15, 2009 7:57 PM CST reply actions  

My take

I hope they don’t get rid of him …. although he can be a “cancer” in the locker room, no one busts his a** more on the field. Well, maybe besides Marion. If everyone on the Cowboys had TO’s work ethic, this team would be Super Bowl bound, easily!

by shadow1480 on Feb 15, 2009 11:19 PM CST reply actions  

I really like the writeup Glory

Everything you write is always well thought out.

That being said, I think the most important note on this post is the first one. We have more than enough talent on our team to make up for losing TO. TOs touches could be easily made up for by giving guys like felix jones, bennett or austin more. And 2 of those guys are actual longball threats, felix being a TO like gamechanger. Likewise, there is no reason to worry about whether cutting TO will improve the oline/romos mistakes – that is on them, not TO.

If our players believe that they cannot play with TO any longer – He should go. Bottom line. If the guys in the offensive huddle feel that his attitude hurts their play as a team, he should go. bubye. If they feel that the media has really blown it out of proportion, then there is no reason to cut him – hes still a good player, in my mind not a great one anymore, but still the best wr we have. However, if they choose not to cut him, Jerry IMO has to limit media access to this team because this has gotten ridiculous. TO has what seems to be a normal disagreement with the OC/qb and it gets blown way out of proportion. Its not an environment thats gonna be successful. This team will just not handle adversity well when they can’t keep things in house.

by foyesboys on Feb 16, 2009 12:30 AM CST reply actions  

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