DeMarcus Ware Says Ray Lewis is Serious
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 21, 2009 1:00 PM CST
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NFL sack leader DeMarcus Ware recently sat down with Dallascowboys.com to discuss sacks, contracts and leadership. The interview is money, and I encourage everyone to take a look. Ware's answers verified a lot of what most of us already believe about his maturity and work ethic. The interview really got interesting when Ware was asked about his thoughts on the possibility of Baltimore linebacker Ray Lewis joining the Cowboys in 2009. Ware's comments really make it seem like Ray's passion to wear the star may actually be genuine, and not just an attempt to drive up his own market value.
Here a few excerpts from the interview pertaining to Lewis:
Ware, when asked if he had been recruiting Ray Lewis at the Pro Bowl:
You know, actually, when we played Ray Lewis and Baltimore at the end of the season, he came over and pointed to my helmet. He said, "I want to wear this star on my helmet, that's my dream...that's my dream." When we got to the Pro Bowl, he came at me every day.
Ware, when asked if he believes Ray Lewis is genuine:
I think he is genuine. Believe me, he is genuine. He talked to me before he became a free agent. He talked to me two years ago about it. He calls me about once a week and talks about it then. I even said "Hey, Ray, I'm tired about talking about this." You need to find Jerry Jones' number and fly out there and talk to him.
He wanted to be a Cowboy two years ago? Two years ago? I'm starting to believe that this may really be what Ray wants unless Ware is just trying to do a friend a favor by stirring the pot. At the same time we can't be too naïve about the situation, because Ray Lewis is probably smart enough to know that Jerry Jones will most likely overpay him.
I know that I am the same guy who rattled off a thousand reasons why Ray Lewis wouldn't be a fit in Dallas, but I'm even starting to bend on this one. If he really wants to be here, and a few of our guys (Ware, Terrell Owens) have come out and said that they want him here...maybe this can work.
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screw playing it safe
lets cut the fat from this team (Roy, Henry, Brad Johnson) and sign Wilson and Lewis.
by quincyyyyy on Feb 21, 2009 1:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
LMAO quincyyyyy The same guy that rebuffed my notion of cutting a reserve (Watkins) in order to free up money for a top notch FA
Seems like your whistling a different tune this morning…Glad a good nights rest had you come to your senses…..
On that Note :
SIGN RAY LEWIS !!!!!!!!!
and Gibril Wilson
Draft OL, DL, and depth through out the lineup…
during the upcoming season, restructure Owens, Romo, Flo, Davis, Gurode, MBIII, and sign Ware to a long term deal…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I rebuffed it because it was an ignorant notion. The guy costs close to 500,000 against the cap
You don’t need to cut him to sign those players. Why is that so hard to understand?
by quincyyyyy on Feb 21, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ignorant ?
Coming from the same guy that wants to cut Henry, Roy, and Brad to do the same exact thing I proposed all along, with the additions of Carp & Watkins ?
Let’s see:
cut
Roy Williams , current starting SS
Anthony Henry , current starting CB, and possible FS canidate
all done to sign a Safety
but keep a reserve that sucks, will never start, and was on IR with a traumatic neck injury..
Do you think a team of judges is really needed to point the finger at you being the ignorant backer of such a useless player that will be out of this league in a year or so.. ?
side note: I am also in favor of cutting Roy, Henry, Brad, Carp, as well as your man crush Mr. Turtle Neck Pat Watkins.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You want to cut all our good STers (Carp and Watkins)
then it will be people like you who will complain when we are giving up 40 yard returns on kickoffs and punts. Plus we are very thin at ILB cutting Carp would be stupid.
The reason I would cut Johnson, Henry, and Roy is because their contracts are so large. Watkins is not even close. And we would probably lose cap space if we cut Carp since most of his contract is guaranteed. Now that would be ignorant.
by quincyyyyy on Feb 21, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I don't want to get into an argument with you but
you can’t just keep a guy on your team because he’s good at special teams. He has to be a player that you think can develop into a good safety,linebacker etc. At this point, Watkins has not been very good (please don’t jump down my throat cause I’m not getting into another immature argument with you) at safety. I’m going to make this simplistic so here goes: You are correct 500,000 is not a lot of money in the NFL (even though I’d die to make that much). However, with the salary cap, every dollar has to be well spent. Think about it- If you just cut Carpenter and Watkins that over 3mil in savings towards this years salary cap. We have to re-sign Ware and possibly bring in a FA safety, plus rookies. If you keep Watkins on the roster that’s 500,000 less that you have to spend on someone else. There’s only so much money to go around. Do you really want to keep a below average safety on your squad just because he’s good on special teams? The answer is an emphatic no. Put it another way: it’s addition by subtraction.
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Keith Davis the past 3 years
you can’t just keep a guy on your team because he’s good at special teams.
And what if Watkins is better than whoever would replace him? Too bad because you just cut him before TC even frickin started. But like I said he is inexpensive and will be on the roster come day 1 of training camp, because I’m sure the GM and the coaches agree with me. Cutting him now would be stupid.
by quincyyyyy on Feb 21, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, it's Sat. night and I'm not going to ruin my evening arguing
cause I got better things to do. Why do you not understand that if you keep Watkins on the roster you are eating up a roster spot and salary cap. No one is saying that you can’t bring him back in at a later date. As I said earlier, maybe 500,000 is not that much but if you add it up with several other players salaries it adds up. Watkins was seriously injured this past year as well as 2007. I would probably cut Keith Davis as well because he’s not a very good safety as well. This time of year, unfortunately, you have to let guys go (about 25 per cent) to sign new guys,resign some of yours like Ware, and sign draft picks.
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"You can’t just keep a guy on your team because he’s good at special teams"...Really?
How often is it talked about, how important special teams are? The three phases of the game? Winning the field position battle? Flipping the field? Hidden yardage? Etc. Everybody here complained all year about special teams play, particularly on coverage teams. And everybody here breathed a huge sigh of relief when Bruce Read finally got the axe.
To say, “you can’t just keep a guy on your team because he’s good at special teams” is kind of a silly statement considering every team has two guys and most teams have three guys who do absolutely nothing BUT special teams, the kicker, the punter and the long snapper.
Devin Hester is a below average CB & WR in the NFL but you’re telling me that if he was on your team you would cut him? How about Joshua Cribbs? Hell, the Pro Bowl has a spot reserved for a special teams ace. So if you have a guy that costs very little in terms of NFL dollars/cap space that is even sub-par on offense/defense but is a very valuable contributor on special teams, then do you consider keeping him? The answer is actually an emphatic yes.
by WB3forMB3 on Feb 21, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We're talking about Watkins specifically
and you think with his injury history/bad safety play you would keep him on the team because he’s good on special teams? Sorry I don’t agree. I never said that special teams arent important but they need to be good enough as back-ups to help at other positions. I’m not saying that you don’t maybe bring them back later, but right now you need to free up money for other players like Ware. Actually Quincy brought up a good point about Keith Davis. The reason that we cut him was because he’s very weak at safety. Do we not agree? We brought him back because our special teams were simply put awful. That shouldn’t ever be the case but hopefully with a new coach our special teams will be better. Unfortunately you can’t keep everyone. The Cowboys do it all the time. They cut players and then bring them back in later.
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, you were discussing Watkins...
But the statement you made, that I took exception with, was a categorical one, not one leveled specifically at Watkins. And if the difference between resigning Ware or loosing him came down to $500,000, then hell yeah, you cut his butt. But we are $12 million or so under the cap and until that relatively low cap charge of $500,000 is the difference, then you gain nothing by cutting him at this time. Also, we didnt cut Keith Davis as I remember it. He was a free agent who wanted a shot at starting. He knew that wasnt going to happen here, so he signed with the Miami Cowboys and got himself a nice little signing bonus. Miami cut him. We brought him back on the cheap because of his oustanding history of special teams play because teams do keep guys that are good at special teams even if they arent that hot at their listed position.
As for cutting him now and then brining him back later, according to the NFL minimum salary payscale for 4th year veteran, cutting him, thus terminating his present contract, and then resigning him, would actually cost us more by a little over $100,000. So it seems to me, that as long as he shows he can still be a force on special teams and at least fill in for a few plays on defense here and there, then you keep him.
by WB3forMB3 on Feb 21, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The "him" Im referring to in the latter paragraph is Watkins, not Davis
by WB3forMB3 on Feb 21, 2009 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll go out on a limb and say he won't make the '09 roster..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 22, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're braver than me....
these guys are vicious and so I’m backing off. I’ll just get rid of Roy Williams and Henry and keep Watkins? Go figure? No more talking about Watkins…..
by texstar on Feb 22, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you guys are missing the point
No one is saying Watkins is the second coming or Woody. He has admittedly been a disappointment in is development as a ball hawking FS. I dont think anyone is arguing that point either. It’s just my contention (and I think quincy’s too) that is just doesnt make much sense to cut him at this point.
He may very well not make it past TC. In fact, if we find someone better then I’ll him pack his bags. But until you have that replacement, whats the point of cutting him?
by WB3forMB3 on Feb 22, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
your right...i'll just wait til he's beaten out of his spot in 5-6 months i guess...
freeing up cap dollars is my contension….and every 500k helps…
I’m willing to say several veteran free agents will get signed up for near vet league minimum over the next several months…..Our ability to add and extend that offer to a coveted FA would be greater with an extra 500k to work with…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 22, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Again, why cut him now?
Our ability to extend an offer to another player is not hampered by having Watkins on the roster. You extend the offer and IF the guy accepts the offer and you KNOW he’s going to beat out Watkins, then you cut Watkins. But as of right now, FA hasn’t even started (minus those that have been cut outright) and so no offers have been extended, much less accepted. SO again, why cut him now? It doesn’t make sense.
by WB3forMB3 on Feb 22, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Watkins is not getting cut....thats absurd...
sure we could use an upgrade, but with the lack of depth and experience we now have it would be stupid to cut him. If we had more money under the cap and not having to worry about finding a ILB, then Watkins might be in trouble. With RW1 on the verge of being cut and Davis a UFA it would be retarded to cut Watkins….As much as people would like to see him go, just like Carpenter it makes no sense to cut him now.
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 22, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-1
Hopefully if Ray calls Jerry doesn’t anwser…..
Gibril Wilson was just another overrated, overhyped FA the Raiders got sucked into paying.
Get used to Hamlin and Henry because there will be no Wilson…..c’mon guys…lol…
What free agent will it be next week we want..
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 21, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe you really think that AH is the answer at FS for this season
by hiafex on Feb 21, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't....but Wilson sucks...
We need a ILB more than a safety right now.
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 21, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No ILB is going to play to his potential
Without a true 3-4 NT in there.
by hiafex on Feb 21, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting comment
Last year, we had a lot of leaders, but not a lot of followers
If you are leading and people aren’t following, what kind of leader does that make you? If he isn’t already, Ware needs to become the leader of the entire defense because players of his caliber, heart and character are so rare. Be the man, Demarcus!
by Billito on Feb 21, 2009 1:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me wrong
I love Ray but his age kinda scares me. I’m still inclined to go after Bart Scott. Agree with Bilito that DWare needs to step up and be the leader plus I don’t know how this group would respond to Lewis coming in and trying to be the leader. They didn’t seem to respond to Thomas and he has always been known as a leader.
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Ware and Lewis are such good friends
would he be willing to give up some of his money to sign Lewis? Same goes with TO?
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and since it's Ray's "dream" to play for Dallas...
he should give the Cowboys the “dream” discount even though he won’t give the Ravens the “home-town” discount.
by commoncents on Feb 21, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 ....Agree
Smarter to sign Bart Scott. Not as sexy as a Ray Ray signing, but probably the better play over the long term. Would be great theater to watch Ray come on board, but maybe we’ve all had enough theater the last year or so…
by Boundforbeach on Feb 21, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
co-sign
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Feb 21, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lewis's productivity far outweighs any issues on age.
He was more productive than Scott, and more than likely would be even cheaper than Scott, due to age…3 years / 25-27 million would get the deal done with Lewis…..Scott would be looking for more years, and more money than that…
I’m sorry…but I’m under the firm belief that Ray Lewis is ALREADY way more respected by these players than anyone on our team. Not to make this a racial thing…but when 98% of your defense is black, younger, taller, and overall bigger, it would be imposible to expect these guys to look at a somewhat pip sqeak type in aging, smaller, weaker white guy in Zack Thomas as a leader into the battlefields…People tend to cling to the bigger, stronger, vocal hard ass types when looking for inspiration….imo….and thats what Ray Lewis brings to the table….You cross him, you know your going to get him in you face…..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dont get me wrong I love Lewis....
his intensity,leadership etc. and I wouldn’t be upset if they signed him. My point was this group of guys did not warm up to “outsiders” last year". Would they this year? Ray has been in Baltimore his whole career and so it’s understood that he’s the leader. I would be the first to say grab him if he could get this group of under-achievers to step up. I still like Scott for his age too.
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your kidding yourself if you think Ray is going to make a difference
First, you can’t buy leadership if that’s what were looking for out of Ray. Second, many of these players don’t give a crap who Ray is. Pat Kirwin addressed this subject recently on Sirus Radio. He said he fell into the same trap when he was in charge of the Jets. They brought in Ronnie Lott to be that leader and voice in the locker room and he said it failed miserably. Jerry Rice in Seattle and Oakland the same effect. Those players didn’t give a rats ass who they were. Kirwin made a point that TO and the others players will be the same with Ray.
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 21, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Another added bonus...How bout if we sign Ray Lewis, and he recruits SS-Jim Leonhard for us ??
He will not be resigned in Baltimore:
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/21/newsome-ravens-leonhard-likely-moving-on/
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 1:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I read that Rex Ryan will be making an effort to land Leonhard over there with da Jets.
Come on King Jerry…
Sign.Leonhard.Now.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Feb 21, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand the Leonhard fascination
He’s a small, unathletic, undrafted dude who doesn’t make big plays. Seems to me like Brain Russell waiting to happen.
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-Stephen Colbert
by Conjunction on Feb 21, 2009 9:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am more inclined to go with Leonhard over Wilson
as well. My gut feeling last year was that if he was that good why didn’t the Giants even attempt to re-sign him. I know that the Raiders offered way over market but did the Giants even offer him anything?
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 2:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Leonhard sounds like the man we’re looking for.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Feb 21, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
true...I knew he wasn't worth that kinda money to begin with, and unfortunately, It also drove up the cost of Hamlin, who was overpaid as well..
I’d take my chances with Leonhard, over Wilson, who was released two straight years for some reason ?…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 2:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I really like Leonhard....
He brings it every down. I don’t think he would be that expensive but who knows? My first choice is to keep Watkins……hahahahhahahhaha
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
New York didn't release Wilson
he hit the FA market. They wanted him back, but to quote a Giants fan who was on here a few weeks ago, “he’s good, but he’s not 6 years, $39 M with $16M guaranteed good.”
New York missed him last season. Kenny Phillips was slow to develop. I think the Raiders cut him because they needed to whack some big salaries, like his backup and feel they can go forward with him.
It’s nobody’s fault that Al Davis can’t handle a checkbook.
by Rafael Vela on Feb 21, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
front 3
Fix the Cowboys front three first, starting with Canty and Spears and finding an huge NT. Then sign somebody like Lewis. If the Cowboys sign Lewis without addressing this issue, the results will be the same. Lewis will look average.
by beautifultyrant on Feb 21, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Lewis has said in the past that he needs a big body in front of him to keep O-Linemen off him. He’s not a guy that’s gonna shed massive Guards to make stops.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Feb 21, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm...We are addressing the NT
We currently have two NT’s coming to camp, and I am sure we’ll be drafting at least one more big body to compete, and that doesn’t count some veteran free agents that may get a look….
Tim Anderson – NT – 6’3" 325lbs.
Junior Siavii – NT – 6’5" 320lbs.
already on roster…throw in a rookie (Brace, Scott, Taylor, Lee, Kinghton, Shaw) and a Grady Jackson type vet…and we’re all set for a heated competition in training camp…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Siavii doesn't represent "addressing NT"
He represents a warm body to take reps during camp. He was there last year. He was the 4th NT on the roster. Guy has not played in the league the last two seasons.
by Rafael Vela on Feb 21, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
warm bodies , future NT's...whatever you wanna call 'em...
they’ll be here in August fighting for a roster spot….which is exactly what I said..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting article
I have to say this changes my perception that Lewis only threw Dallas in the mix as a negotiating tactic. If he’s been calling Ware for 2 years, I’d say he’s genuinely interested in becoming a Cowboy.
I still think Baltimore won’t let him go without a fight. How much would it cost to get him? If he’s dead set on being a Cowboy next season, would he take an equal offer or even better, give Dallas a discount?
I guess we’ll see what happens next week when FA opens.
Feb. 18-24 -- NFL Scouting Combine
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 21, 2009 2:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The fights over for Bmore if they wanted to keep him that bad they'd have franchised him. They have like 10 free agents
They are letting Ray Ray walk.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Feb 21, 2009 3:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't blame them for tagging Suggs though
They would have been crazy to tag Lewis and had to negotiate with Suggs and Scott, as well as some of their other FA’s.
Feb. 18-24 -- NFL Scouting Combine
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 21, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bmore is in a bad spot
right now with having 3 LB FA’s. I think they did the smart thing with Suggs because he has more upside. I don’t understand why they couldn’t have worked out a deal and franchised Scott but who knows?
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm praying Baltimore will sign Lewis and let Scott walk
if not, hopefully Jerry doesn’t think Ray Lewis is our savor like some of the people on here and pass….
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 21, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Scott walks in Baltimore
The way he talks, his first choice is going to be the Jets. Jerrry would have to pay through the nose to get him here. Dont see how we can afford that and resign Ware.
by WB3forMB3 on Feb 21, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
After Favre left that changed Scott and Lewis mind not to go there I bet
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 21, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing we have over the Jets though....
they have some salary cap issues to deal with because they signed Faneca, Sean Rodgers and some others last year to some big contracts. Favre leaving helped but now they have to think about getting a new QB possibly and signing draft choices. Not saying that can’t but they are over the salary cap now.
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's all a pipe dream
Jerry said we won’t be big players in FA this year. The only way we make a ‘splash’ is if we get someone for cheap.
Next year will be the year that we go all out.
by mhuff13 on Feb 21, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really think Baltimore is putting up a front that they'll do whatever it takes to keep him
Because if they don’t get their fans perceiving this, it would be a PR nightmare, I really don’t think they want to overspend to keep him….although I want Jerry to spend to get him…
Their fans would revolt if they knew Baltimore wasn’t at least making an effort to resign him…They tend not to resign their aging stars long term…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's true
Feb. 18-24 -- NFL Scouting Combine
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 21, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is what worries me.
1. Cowboys sign Ray Lewis.
2. Terrell Owens behaves.
3. Media relentlessly insists that Terrell Owens is behaving because he is scared of Ray Lewis.
4. T.O. eventually flips just to show everyone he’s not afraid of Ray Lewis.
5. Another locker room explosion.
TELL MITCH ALBOM THAT IF HE'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH BLOGGERS, THEN HE CAN COME SEE ME IN THE OCTAGON.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 21, 2009 4:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"T.O. eventually flips to show everyone he's not afraid of Ray Lewis."
Jerry could pay off the stadium if he charged pay-per-view fees for a live broadcast of T.O. flipping on Ray Lewis."
I would “get my popcorn ready” to see that!
by Rafael Vela on Feb 21, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What about the good old days when Shaq and Hakeem were "supposed" to play a one-on-one game on pay-per-view?
As for this proposed matchup, T.O. has the reach and Ray has the bulk. I’d favor T.O. in the standup and Ray on the ground.
by MadMick on Feb 21, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
T.O.’s chances definitely improve the longer the fight lasts. If he can get it into the later rounds, he can wear Ray down with his stamina.
TELL MITCH ALBOM THAT IF HE'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH BLOGGERS, THEN HE CAN COME SEE ME IN THE OCTAGON.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 21, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great points.
I think for the media to have enough legitimate ammunition though there’d have to be a rough patch in the season where the Cowboys lost two out of three and Owens went through another drout. That would give the mediots the perfect opening to say “ooh, this is normally where T.O. would question his number of touches/role in the offense. He’s not. I wonder why.”
by MadMick on Feb 21, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Ray Ray!!
I’ll take a team full of guys his age and his passion for football – every day of the week.
And I’d take T.O. over Ray Ray, he’s got the reach where Ray Ray might go crazy like Tyson and start biting. Winner by DQ, Terrell the REAL DEAL Owens.
by Doomsday on Feb 22, 2009 12:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
STFU!!!!!!!!!!
You are not getting ray from me. He will stay on a team that makes the playoffs and wins big games. Only Raven presence you will have on your team is the ghost of Joe Flacco winning the last football game in Texas Stadium.
Keep dreaming guys.
If these quotes were true, then how come they are just coming out right now? How come they werent out when they were said? I dont believe any of this till it happens. Enjyo the offseason in trying to build a T.E.A.M.
I mean take it this way, there is no “I” in team, but you can still spell “ME”
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2009 1:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We should all thank the Ravens GM
for stopping by and clearing up this situation for us. What an honor.
TELL MITCH ALBOM THAT IF HE'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH BLOGGERS, THEN HE CAN COME SEE ME IN THE OCTAGON.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 22, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In the end, both the Cowboys and Ravens had the same result for the season
And that is not getting another Lombardi.
by mhuff13 on Feb 22, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whatta douche bag...
ummm…many Ray Lewis concealed his passion to play for the Cowboys so he didn’t have to hear childish rants from pathetic fans like you ???
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 22, 2009 2:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
your about to lose you starting OC, ILB, SS, CB ...lol....
good luck in your big games..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 22, 2009 2:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Your wrong
Our starting strong safety, Dawan Landry, will be coming back next year from injury. Leonhard is not our starter. We cut McAlister because he is too injury prone, you guys can have him if you want. Jason Brown will be signed, so dont worry bout that. And Ray Ray aint goin anywhere.
Worry about getting your TEAM together. The Lions are more of a TEAM than Dallas is.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea you obviously know football
The Lions are as much of a team as a pile of rocks are.
by mhuff13 on Feb 22, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I said TEAM
Which is a group of players striving towards one common goal. You guys have a bunch of ME players who do not mesh well enough to be a team. You guys should sign OJ Simpson and then Mike Vick for kick returns.
Then get mickey mouse to be your new mascot for that theme park you will be playing in next year. Too Jerry, I think $$$$ is more important than a ring.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea so a bunch of players who won zero games
Is more of a team than one that won nine?
GTFO troll.
by mhuff13 on Feb 22, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mr Malox
You just keep on swallowing all the crap the MSM feeds you, and you will need something for the indigestion.
BTW thanks for stopping by to give us someone to laugh at.
Feb. 18-24 -- NFL Scouting Combine
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 24, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eventhough I'm all for big D to sign Ray Ray
Since I’m a Colts fan and the Colts do play the Ravens next season. Until Dallas gets rid of Wade Phillips, they will have no shot at another super bowl. Even with Ray Lewis.
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 22, 2009 3:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure a few years ago people said
The Giants had no shot at a Super Bowl with Coughlin too…
by mhuff13 on Feb 22, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And the Giants won a super bowl and beat your Cowboys
Because they had something Dallas didn’t, a good coach.
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PatsR18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Feb 23, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize the world was over
when a football team goes 22-10 over 2 seasons?
by commoncents on Feb 23, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Go Away...
What’s your problem punk? At
by texstar on Feb 23, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Midway through that seasn
He was considered the same as Wade. A guy who just couldn’t win the big one. Same with Eli.
Sure sounds familiar.
by mhuff13 on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Coughlin had a couple of advantages over Wade though...
He didn’t have a GM/Owner trying to run the show and all the players stirring things up with their mouths in the media. They did have Shockey and Tiki but not quite as many talkers as us. You are correct though now the media raves about Coughlin when they were blasting him just a few months earlier. IMO if Jerry wasn’t such an out-front type of GM we wouldn’t be hearing a lot of the garbage about HC.
by texstar on Feb 23, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
these guys a idiots...
Has Wade ever stepped on the field and lost a game for Dallas ??
give me a break. ..I bet he’d slap the crap out of that fossil joke of a DC you got running things in Indy..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 22, 2009 8:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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