More Cowboys Players of Interest
More that Makes Me Go Hmmmmm...
Dallas has spoken to Penn. State WR Derrick Williams and to Oklahoma WR Juaquin Iglesias the last couple of days. It's probably just due diligence -- you have the staff in Indy, so you need to do your homework and talk to all the prospects you like -- but I find it just a bit odd that Dallas is filling dossiers on two WRs rated in the 2nd round.
They Like You Zack, I Think They Do
The Cowboys are also looking at ILBs, including LSU's Darry Beckwith, an option in the early 3rd and Cal's Zach Follett, a mid-round prospect. Beckwith has also drawn interest from the Patriots, 49ers, Chargers and Seahawks. The first three run 34s like Dallas, so they must all feel that Beckwith, who lists at 232 lbs., can fill out and play inside.
There appears less consensus on Follett. He's been interviewed by Dallas, Green Bay, San Diego, Baltimore, Oakland, Cleveland and Cincinnati. Every one of these teams save the Bengals, run a 34. Follett is quoted at kffl.com that some teams told him he' too small to play their 34. Follett, who weighs 238 lbs., may indeed be too small to play outside in the scheme, but I wonder if he's being projected inside? I read reports during Senior Bowl week that Dallas watched Follett at Mobile. I doubt they're one of the teams telling Follett he's too small.
-- Add San Jose State DE prospect Jarron Gilbert to the players of interest list.
-- The Cowboys have also interviewed Maryland OG Jaimie Thomas, who currently projects into the later rounds.
How Far a Fall?
Alabama OT prospect Andre Smith has cost himself a ton of money the last 24 hours. The only question is how much? Smith entered the week as a top ten prospect, possibly a top fiver. But he missed his workouts and admitted that he was not in shape. He compounded the error by leaving Indy early and not communicating with officials prior to departure.
Will Smith stay in the top 10 now? I doubt it. Bonuses for players taken that high run in the tens of millions. If you were running a club, would you hand that size a bonus to someone you didn't trust to work hard?
The question remains, how far will he fall? And how much money has Smith cost himself?
Free Agent Watch: Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome told the press today he's optimistic about re-signing LBs Terrell Suggs, Ray Lewis, Bart Scott and C Jason Brown.
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The Cowboys may just be doing their homework if one of the top WR's falls
or maybe this is an indication T.O. may not be back next year. But we should get a good indication as to who we really like when we start bringing in prospects for private sessions at Valley Ranch.
By the way DT Chris Baker of Hampton, a Penn State transfer, came in larger than expected at 6’2 326. Add him to the list of NT prospects, plus the guy is a playmaker.
by quincyyyyy on Feb 21, 2009 6:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Williams I like....would be that speedy WR we need.
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 21, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Right on.
This kids the real deal. If that numbnut Anthony Morelli hadn’t been throwing the football to him for 3 of his 4 years, his numbers would have been even more fantastic. He had a great senior year with Darryl Clark. He could fall, if for no other reason that the annual bias against Penn State skill players. He’d be good value at 51, although I do agree we have more pressing needs.
by Boundforbeach on Feb 21, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He....
might be the real deal.
But then again he could be Peter Warrick.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
woo hooo...damn Baker at 326 is nice....
more options the better for us…would hate to reach for Brace at #51
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here are some more possible NT candidates heights and weights
Myron Pryor 6’0 318
Terrance Knighton 6’3 321
Dorell Scot 6’3 312
Terrance Taylor 6’0 306
Marlon Favorite 6’1 314
Ron Brace 6’3 330
Sammie Lee Hill 6’4 329
by quincyyyyy on Feb 21, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Although from what I have been reading Sammie Lee Hill may be more of a 3-4 DE
even though he is close 330.
by quincyyyyy on Feb 21, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm tellin ya....I got a special gut feeling about Sammi Lee Hill......
he is on my wish list.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Smith won't lose anything.....It was an error by him and his agent, but he will still be the top OT come draft day.
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 21, 2009 6:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I seriously doubt this
You gonna pay a guy a $15M signing bonus when he can’t bother to show up to his job interview?
by Rafael Vela on Feb 21, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you Raf
and word is he’s not in shape. How can you come to the Combine and not be in shape?
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"How can you come to the Combine and not be in shape?"
Should ask JaMarcus Russell that. But he still went #1 overall anyway. How’s that working out for Oakland?
While I agree with the sentiment Raf and texstar, I wouldn’t draft anyone who showed up unprepared for the combine either, some teams don’t seem to care that much.
by Luke. on Feb 21, 2009 6:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well we are talking about Crazy Al and the Raiders aren't we?
Kidding but he doesn’t seem to have his head screwed on correctly.
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As my friend Paul Mitchell would say ,
“If you’re going to be dumb, you gotta be tough” Smith erred hugely in my estimation.
by Keys80 on Feb 21, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I agree with Raf on this one
unless he can articulate a really good explanation in private interviews, that is definitely a red flag
by quincyyyyy on Feb 21, 2009 7:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fool
He’s going to drop like a rock.These guys, if they’re lucky, will get maybe 2-3 big paydays in their career if they’re good. He just gave away millions in free money, all because he’s stupid. And I’m sure he ignored the counsel of his agent, family, hs coach, etc., to stay in shape and approach this maturely and like millions were on the line. He didn’t, and it speaks VOLUMES. Nobody picking top ten can afford to take that risk. Too bad
by Boundforbeach on Feb 21, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It will all be forgotten come draft day..Like Gruden just said on NFL Network
go ahead you pass on him, I’ll take him. You can’t deny his talents on the football field. He will still be the top OT on draft day bank on it…
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 21, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Gruden...
has made some great draft picks….
cricket cricket
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
watch it...Gruden could be our new HC next year..lol
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 21, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
God I hope not.
Gruden is not liked or respected by players.
Jimmy pissed guys off, but he at least had their respect.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that I think about it,
no, he won’t.
He’s not the only physically gifted OT. Any other tackle with similar grades just jumped him in the pecking order. You pick him, you’re spending 10-20 million of your owners money. And if that guy lets you down, it’s YOUR job that’s gone forever.
You gonna risk your job on a immature kid like him?
by Rafael Vela on Feb 21, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Smith
TELL MITCH ALBOM THAT IF HE'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH BLOGGERS, THEN HE CAN COME SEE ME IN THE OCTAGON.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 21, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep....
I never thought I’d see the day when a player from Baylor might be the #1 overall pick.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, my son goes to school there lol
but seriously you have forgotten about Mike Singletary and give me a minute and I can come up with some others.
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I didn’t forget about Singletary, but he wasn’t the #1 pick overall…
And there aren’t many others, the second best player as of now from Baylor is a punter.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know that's the joke around my house when my son
said he wanted to go there.
by texstar on Feb 22, 2009 12:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a great school though.
A couple of my really good friends graduated from there, it’s just not really great at football.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 22, 2009 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Women's basketball
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Feb 23, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Look for the QB at Baylor. He’s a good one.
by texstar on Feb 23, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like you all pretty much dislike Texas A&M
but I’ve been hearing pretty good reviews on Stephen McGee so far… maybe he’s worth a shot late in the draft if our back-up situation is still not good
by commoncents on Feb 23, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's more of a rivalry thing than dislike for the school.
Speaking of McGee, it’s really sad that he went to A&M because Ferenchione hurt him in developing him. Coming out of high school he and Jordan Shipley led the nation in passing/receiving duos for 1 if not 2 years. He has a very good arm. The only problem that I have seen is he’s very raw because he wasn’t developed by A&M. Kind of like M. Bennett last year. He’s pretty fast for a QB. If a team could really work with him and develop him slowly, he could be very good IMO. He’s also very smart.
by texstar on Feb 23, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how to spell Ferenchione just a guess.
Anyway it’s the guy sounding coach from A&M. Sorry but that whiny nasal voice kinda grates on your nerves (just joking Aggies.)
by texstar on Feb 23, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
well he’s one guy I wouldn’t mind seeing get a name call with us if he is around in the later rounds…
by commoncents on Feb 23, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I like him too
as long as he’s allowed to develop like they did with Romo. BTW he’s a coaches son. Both his dad and Jordan Shipley’s dad (UT receiver) were their coaches in high school.
by texstar on Feb 23, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
McGee looks pretty good to me...
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 23, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he's a real competitior and smart too.
I feel bad for the kid and Bennett because Franchione really hurt those guys by not developing them correctly.
by texstar on Feb 23, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL - Failure To Show Up For Interview
That’s OK; you are big and fat, so here is 20 million dollars!!!
by Iowacowboy on Feb 22, 2009 8:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right
if you can’t remember the combines, how are you gonna remember the snap count?
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Feb 23, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
He’s a dumb dumb. He’ll still get picked in the top 10 probably, but he can forget going #1. (shouldn’t be too hard since apparently he has a lousy memory)
Feb. 18-24 -- NFL Scouting Combine
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 24, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He showed up for his interviews inappropriately dress as well....
gym shorts and flip flops ??? c’ mon….
how dumb can one kid be…….
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 22, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dumb meet dumber...
He certainly won’t be the first OT chosen…A team would be completely foolish to give him top 5 money..
The guy is a mental case, has major issues, and an out off shape tun a goo who don’t care that he just cost himself about 5 – 15 million dollars..
He won’t get past San Fran at #10….but he could have gone #1 if he came to the combine with his head on straight, and in shape.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he has a good pro day he will still be a top 5 pick...
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 21, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's fine
I talked to a scout about guys like this. He told he his GM mentor, one of the best ever at picking players, told him, “let somebody else be the hero with a guy like this. We’re investing too much.”
Somebody else will certainly try to be the hero, and they may be rewarded. But I’m glad Dallas won’t get near having that headache of a choice.
by Rafael Vela on Feb 21, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe in a weaker class
But how can you place him over Monroe, Jason Smith, and Oher right now?
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by Conjunction on Feb 21, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if
he kills at his pro day, it will save him.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Feb 22, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jarron Gilbert...
I don’t know if he’s going to be a good player or not, but any dude who weighs 280 and can jump flat footed out of a 3 foot pool straight to the surface is a freak of nature.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 7:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
watch him jump a 28'' vertical
after everyone is pumping up that youtube pool video.
by quincyyyyy on Feb 21, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
yeah.
Either way thats pretty impressive, plus the guy had a good collegiate career.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I heard about that. Thought only penguins and ducks could do that.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 21, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right,
but that’s the scary part of combine week.
When do you ever had to jump out of a three foot pool in the field?
Find good football players.
by Rafael Vela on Feb 21, 2009 7:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh I totally agree...
It’s an impressive stunt, even if he sucks as a football player.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Andre Smith...
This is the thing, I think he still goes in the top 15…. buuuuut this isn’t the first time he’s shown immaturity.
How do you get suspended before the Sugar Bowl?
And I know this might have been a “communication error” but really?
I just know that for something preeeeeety important I make sure over and over again that I get the facts straight.
I mean you’re talking about a mistake that could cost you millions of dollars, that’s ridiculous.
I personally think Jason Smith has way more upside. He is so athletic.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 7:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A "communication error" is possible
but going to Indy out of shape cannot be talked away.
that’s just flat out stupid.
by Rafael Vela on Feb 21, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they're both stupid.
That would be the equivalant of someone taking a bar exam without studying or making sure what time the test was.
Would you want them to be your lawyer?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of offensive tackles...
I really hope Doug Free steps it up this season. I think Adams is done. I remember Free performed well against Dwight Freeney in the preseason his rookie year. He does have potential.
by beautifultyrant on Feb 21, 2009 7:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why....
Do you think Flozell is done?
He had a sub par year, but he was had a injury most of the year.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
Did you see his performance at the Pro Bowl? Awful.
by beautifultyrant on Feb 21, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I still say if and that's a big if Free could produce
how about moving Flo over to LG like we did with Allen? Would it work?
by texstar on Feb 21, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It might.
He does appear to have the strength to do it. However, he may be a bit Too Tall. Pun intended.
by beautifultyrant on Feb 21, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he'll finally be able to hear the cadence being that much closer to Romo...
and won’t false start every friggin game..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 21, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Airforce
I hope you’re right; he did look good in 07. But do you really think he can get back to that form?
by beautifultyrant on Feb 21, 2009 8:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I think Cory Proctor + Injuries hurt him.
I just find it odd that he played MUCH better when Kosier and Holland were in.
And I don’t put too much stock in Pro Bowl performances.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Raf...
If Pat White was available like 5th roundish.. what would you think about him?
He could possibly be a wildcat QB and backupQB/WR
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 8:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ha...
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is a hell of a year for OT's and Hybrid DE/OLB's
TELL MITCH ALBOM THAT IF HE'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH BLOGGERS, THEN HE CAN COME SEE ME IN THE OCTAGON.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 21, 2009 9:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Indeed...
What do you think about Pat White GD?
If he was like a 5th or 6th rounder?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he will last that long
But I think he could play a lot of small but important roles for us. He’s athletic enough to return punts, and provide another option on kickoffs if the staff doesn’t want to risk Felix. He would be a good developmental project at receiver.
And hey, if you wanted to tinker with some WildCat….who could be better?
TELL MITCH ALBOM THAT IF HE'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH BLOGGERS, THEN HE CAN COME SEE ME IN THE OCTAGON.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 21, 2009 9:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly...
He could also be a backup QB, I just like the fact that he’s versatile and has come out saying that he’d be willing to do anything in the NFL.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 21, 2009 9:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta like a young man that just wants to play
We need a few like him.
by illcowboy on Feb 21, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We have 2 5ths and a 6th, and we could get a compensation pick(s) in that area...
We need a young back-up QB, and I wouldn’t mind having Pat White run around the backfield in the wildcat with Felix and MB3 while giving Romo a play on the sidelines to make adjustments and talk things over with Garret
by commoncents on Feb 22, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pat White will not last that long
I wish though. I like him a lot.
TELL MITCH ALBOM THAT IF HE'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH BLOGGERS, THEN HE CAN COME SEE ME IN THE OCTAGON.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 22, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Not with all the “Wildcat” formation being the rage now. Maybe I don’t get it, but I still don’t understand why Stanbeck couldn’t be a backup cause he would definitely be fast enough for the wildcat
by texstar on Feb 22, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's bigger, faster, and strong than White...
oh well…..I don’t get it either…but i think they’d rather use his athletic ability more so than what a backup QB would offer to them….
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 22, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But remember in the day....
Danny White was our punter (darn good too) and backup QB. I have never seen any tape on him, does he have a very good arm?
by texstar on Feb 22, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He has...
A cannon of an arm.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 22, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then why not use him?
Actually, the Houston Oilers did it with their QB/Field Goal Kicker back in the day. I can’t remember his name. He came from Oakland.
by texstar on Feb 22, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
George Blanda ????
jeeez…your going way back..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 22, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm tired and that popped in my head
for some reason-LOL. You’re right the kid has a cannon and we should be developing him for QB as well. Can you imagine if we would have had him instead of BJ last year?
by texstar on Feb 22, 2009 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I get it. One's got a vastly superior resume that trumps the other's.
Stanback only completed 51 percent of his passes as a Husky. Did any teams ever even consider him as a QB?
Just White’s bowl game career alone trumps the entirety of Stanback’s college career. We all saw how much of an impact Steve Slaton made as a rookie and there’s no reason to believe White can’t have similiar success at the next level. The key difference between Stanback and White is that White’s an actual pro prospect at the QB position; something Stanback hardly was. Also, given the insane amount of plays White made as a Mountaineer if you can find a way to get the ball in his hands (while he’s being groomed as a potential starting QB) he has just as much big play potential as some project like Stanback.
Of course, there’s probably fifteen Woodrow Dantzlers for every Antwaan Randle-El who actually succeed in making the transition so maybe both guys will turn out to be wastes. But if you go on the amount of big plays Pat White made in college as opposed to measurables, it’s easy to see why he has more upside than Stanback ever had.
by MadMick on Feb 23, 2009 4:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't know why they don't develope him as QB as well as WR...
He’ll be a big part of this offense soon…maybe not this year, but the following years when TO finally hangs it up, and Crayton is tossed to the curb.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 22, 2009 11:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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