Canty, Burnett, Money & Free Agency...
by Luke. on Feb 23, 2009 4:44 AM CST
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This originally started as a simple reply to Grizz's post - “Decisions loom for Cowboys in free agency” - that discussed Chris Canty and Kevin Burnett. But once I started ranting the size kept growing and I thought posting here would be more appropriate.
While I certainly don't begrudge any man getting his due reward financially in the open market, sometimes money is not the only valuable thing on offer. I've personally, and known many others who have too, stayed in slightly less paying jobs because the organisation, conditions and workmates were top notch and what could be gained financially would not have been more valuable than a place were it's actually enjoyable to work.
Now obviously if you get more money and an equally great place more power to you but the attitude of Canty and Burnett just seems to be “I want as much money as possible”. Canty is definitely overestimating his worth if he thinks he should get 50 million dollars and Burnett, an injury plagued part-time player, is dreaming if he thinks he's worth a big pay day.
I can't help but feel that these two guys are somewhat symbolic of the attitude of too many players on this team. They think they're better than they really are. Quick to celebrate, quick to showboat but disappear for weeks in between. Bradie James also fits this bill. While James is a better player than those two and had a fine season in 08 his complaining about missing the Pro Bowl just seems typical of this overestimating attitude. Yes Bradie you had a good year, yes Bradie your stats were good enough to make the Pro Bowl (thanks to some terrific scheming by our beleagued Head Coach that allowed you to come free and untouched for a solid handful of your eight sacks), oh and yes Bradie that was you getting burned by Todd Heap and absolutely bulldozed by the Ravens fullback as Le'Ron McClain ran over your prostrate corpse for an 80 yard touchdown at the final game in Texas Stadiums history. And yes Bradie, that was you whinging about not getting personal accolades while the team you claimed to be a leader on was having a locker room crisis and melting down and out of the playoffs.
We need a lot less of that type of attitude, if Canty and Burnett want to overestimate themselves out of Dallas I say good riddance and take your crap attitude with you. Replace Canty with Igor Olshansky at a cheaper price for the same production but a much better attitude. Olshansky; a tough, no-nonsense player who has a nasty demeanor on the field and a team first attitude in the locker room. A guy who's a self motivated hard worker, a guy who brings a real element of consistent strength and power on first and second downs to help our terrific but undersized Ratliff and somewhat inconsistent Spears (Olshansky is a weight room beast who apparently benches his own weight of 305 pounds 20 times and can do 465 pounds 6 times!).
I want more players who are like that and less players who think they're all that and more. I'm sorry my rant about Canty and Burnett turned into a mild ripping of James and a large promotion of Olshansky but sometimes opportunity and need meet right where you want them. We have a need for a new 3-4 Right Defensive End and for players with top intangibles. Igor Olshansky is the opportunity for both.
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More Igor...
For anyone who’s interested here’s a six part (roughly 4-5 minutes each) mini-documentary that interviews Igor and people influential in his life and upbringing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nzb-PEkuCQ&feature=related
It’s an interesting story telling how his family left the Soviet Bloc to come to live in America and an insight into his terrific work ethic, intelligence and attitude.
Jerry and Wade, get it done.
by Luke. on Feb 23, 2009 5:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great Post
These players still believe that they are the most talented in the NFL. Canty saw the O-line payouts over the last two years and expects the same mistakes to be made.
by King Man on Feb 23, 2009 6:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yep,
and it’s those overpriced contracts that would have had us virtually unable to resign him if we had actually wanted too. Sooner or later you have to let guys go and replace them with cheaper options and hope your draft picks come through.
by Luke. on Feb 23, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Igor! Igor! Igor!
Does he drool? I want some guys on D that drool.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 23, 2009 4:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
hahaha, Well actually...
A definition of drooling can be someone who "talks nonsense". By this standard I’d say our Defense is full of players who drool to the media; Roy Williams drooling about how it’s not his fault he sucks because ’it’s the scheme’ don’t ya know. Greg Ellis has been drooling for about 3 years now about his position, his coaches and his playing time. Terrence Newman joined the droolers this year and Bradie James ‘what about me, it isn’t fair’ drooling is stated above. That’s 4 Pro Bowl players (in James’ mind he is one) who had some of there biggest plays last year in front of a microphone.
If it wasn’t for the superior talents of hard working team orientated winners like DeMarcus Ware and Jay Ratliff, and a Coach who knows how to utilize those two to maximum effectiveness (28 sacks between them) this D would be completely woeful and whiny.
I believe Olshansky would come in and join the later not the former.
by Luke. on Feb 23, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-1
The core of our defense is Ware, Ratliff, Newman, James.
What do you care if a guy said he thought he played well enough to make the Pro-Bowl? That doesn’t make him a whiny, “drooler”.
Nor does Newman and his comments that everyone on the team and the coaches need to take accountability make him a “drooler”, in fact I’d say he was right on the money.
According to your own definition, I think you a “drooler”
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by APerfectStar on Feb 24, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
gee...easy Tom....
not known to incite aggresive banter..
btw…don’t mess with Newman, or Tom get after you…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 24, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I didn't mean to come off aggressively
But I will argue when I read something that I think is BS.
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by APerfectStar on Feb 25, 2009 12:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Arguing is fine
Name-calling isn’t.
by Dave Halprin on Feb 25, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
His definition
A definition of drooling can be someone who “talks nonsense”
I apologize if this is in anyway offensive to him, but seriously Grizz.
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by APerfectStar on Feb 25, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-1
If you think my criticism of James is BS that’s fine but I think your fawning over him is unwarranted. Bradie James is an above average player who thinks he’s a superstar and talks out of turn. He repeatedly makes comments to the media that should be kept in house. Here’s a sample from this off-season;
Bradie on Stewart:
"Really to be honest with you, and be real about the situation, the defensive coordinator wasn’t the problem (1)," James said in an interview yesterday with The Ticket’s Norm Hitzges. "What did we really solve by letting him go?(1) The situation still is the same, so I think it’s other moves that need to be made(1), but it’s not about me(2). I’m a player, so I can’t make those decisions(2). I’ve just got to deal with whatever we have, whatever we put out there(2)."
James logic #1: So who was the problem? Was it Wade? Was it your teammates? Who are you throwing under the bus here Bradie?
James logic #2: It’s not my fault! I’m just a poor old player (who should be in the Pro Bowl) and I just have to put up with this stuff… but it’s not my fault, it’s somebody else’s, clear?
To me, being a ‘leader’, like James is self-promoted to be, does not involve complaining to the media about decisions that aren’t his to make. It doesn’t involve vaguely pointing blame in some direction while completely absolving yourself of any responsibility of any wrong doing in the next sentence.
What about when Bradie James’ Head Coach said he would attempt to run things differently next year and be more demanding and pay more attention to detail. What support does Bradie give him?
"If you know a person to be a certain way and then all of the sudden, you have an extreme change, I don’t know," LB Bradie James said. "I don’t know how well that’s going to be taken. I don’t know what he means by that. But he didn’t address us, so I don’t know."
We’re 30 seconds into the off-season and Bradie’s already criticized his Head Coach’s approach to the next season. Way to support your Head Coach Bradie, that’s true leadership right their.
Leadership also doesn’t involve getting out of your vehicle to physically hassle a protesting fan and destroy his property.
These types of things a good attitude and smart leader it does not make.
If you think Bradie James is a great player and leader that’s fine but I see a guy that is mostly solid against the run, misses easy tackles occasionally, has taken full advantage of the opportunity Ware, Ratliff and a scheming Phillips has provided him in pass rush, is average to below average in coverage and has a habit of saying things that should be kept indoors in front of the press. To me that’s not a great player, it’s a solid player in a good situation with a bad mouth and a look at me attitude.
by Luke. on Feb 25, 2009 6:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Some more...
And Terrence Newman telling the media that the Coaches need to take responsibility just smacks of this attitude problem of Bradie. It’s not anything I’ve done it’s the Coaches who are letting us down. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Big bad Bill Parcells was letting you down wasn’t he Canty, Spears, James, Roy Williams etc. That why you played poorly. When Bill left we got Wade, who treated you differently didn’t he. He treated you like men right? Let you take responsibility, gave the accountability to the players. Wasn’t that what everyone was saying? Now the Defense still fluctuates between average and good, like it did before, but of course it’s Wade’s fault now (a proven X’s and O’s Defensive guru). Yeah, yeah, whatever. Shut up and execute on the field.
Newman injured or getting burned and blaming coaching accountability, Roy Williams pointing fingers to attempt to mask how freaking out of position he was then blaming coaching scheme, Bradie James, a non-existent pass rusher his first 4 years without Phillips (2.5 sacks) having a career year because Phillips devised beautiful ways to allow him to come untouched around the edge (8 sacks) and then undermining in the media every decision Phillips has made in the off-season. Classy group of winners that lot. And then there’s Greg Ellis, ughh, couldn’t be bothered.
You’re right PerfectStar, those guys are ‘core guys’ on our defense, and we’re 9-7 with a whole lot of in house bitching.
by Luke. on Feb 25, 2009 7:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Luke
You are so right, I couldn’t see it until you got inside these guy’s heads and explained what they were thinking when they made these comments. I guess this team sucks and is doomed to fail because you try to twist what players say in the media to fit your personal animosity towards them. Hey, whatever works for you.
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by APerfectStar on Feb 25, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PerfectStar,
"You are so right" – Thank you.
"I couldn’t see it until you got inside these guy’s heads and explained what they were thinking when they made these comments" – I know, but now you understand and it’s fine.
"I guess this team sucks and is doomed to fail" – Ha, I certainly never said anything like that. Why do you think this team is doomed?
"Your personal animosity towards them" – I don’t hold any animosity towards football players. But being that I was on a Cowboys blog I thought I’d comment on things that affect the Cowboys whether on field or off-field. Should I only say positive things? Bradie James sure is… … … fit. The act of playing football isn’t important enough in the grand scheme of things for me to hold some sort of burning grudge against players.
by Luke. on Feb 25, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then why try turning a subjective argument into an objective one
That’s what I disagree with you on.
Any arguments that begin with sideline psychology hold little merit to me.
Facts are facts, Ratliff, James, Newman, Hamlin and hopefully very soon, Ware are all signed for the current window of opportunity to make it to the SB and win. I just want them to perform well on the field, and neither you nor I know what goes on in the locker room, so why bother trying to take a sound byte and spin it either way. It is what it is.
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by APerfectStar on Feb 25, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PerfectStar,
I’ll agree that it’s difficult, presumptions and sometimes worthless to attempt to interpret players comments made through the media from the outside position us fans are. But let me explain my position;
Interpreting language is the key of communication and understanding. In the search to understand how a team that returned 13 Pro Bowlers and other talented players could continue to play so poorly, make so many mental mistakes, point so many fingers at each other, be careless with the football and come out on the last day of the regular season with a win-and-in playoff opportunity and play an effortless game on the field in a woeful 44-6 thrashing by an arch-rival football club, myself and some others have observed a common thread of behavior that some players have communicated to us fans through the press. The common thread I see is of some players pointing the finger, deflecting personal responsibility and complaining about things outside their control that they claim are holding them back. This is an attitude that historically has not been considered an adult one (or a winning one, or a team one in sports history) by Western society for hundreds if not thousands of years. It is considered a selfish or childish one. It makes me wonder if this inconsistent, highly penalized and unfocused team that has persisted under two different Head Coaches is a problem of the mental attitude and maturity of some key players (though certainly not all) on this team.
That is the perspective that my posts are coming from on this issue of players talking to the media. This post is not trying to be condescending, just attempting to explain my position as clearly as I can.
by Luke. on Feb 25, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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by silverblue5 on Feb 23, 2009 9:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great post Luke
It seems that you hear fewer and fewer stories about the guy who puts the team first. It still happens, but nowadays it seems to be about the big payday. There still are players that have their agents quietly get the deal done to the benefit of all sides. Goodwill between a player and the organization usually gets the desired results. It doesn’t happen as much anymore. It seems that too many would rather be the one instead of part of the whole.
by oldboysfan on Feb 23, 2009 9:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's just the opposite
You say you’d take less money to work in a better environment. Well, what if you could get MORE money to work in a better atmosphere? What if Canty and Burnett are tired of playing in the pressure cooker that is Dallas? What if they don’t want to be a part of a fractured locker room with a bad attitude? Maybe they’re the ones getting the good deal, not us for letting them go.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Feb 23, 2009 11:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
BigD...
"Well, what if you could get MORE money to work in a better atmosphere?"
As I said; – "Now obviously if you get more money and an equally great place more power to you", guess I should have said ‘equally good or better’ but the sentiments the same. And what you proposed (that Canty and Burnett might actually want to escape Dallas’ troubles) did cross my mind too. If that’s the case it’s a very sad reflection on the state of this team.
by Luke. on Feb 23, 2009 11:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agree with you on Canty over-reaching but...
Bradie James said he wanted to get into Pro Bowl…so what? You want a player who doesn’t set goals for themselves? Give me a break.
BTW, why do you think Igor is going to be cheaper than Canty? I think they’ll end up with similar contracts.
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by APerfectStar on Feb 24, 2009 7:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gotta back Luke up here.
Anyone watching should be able to see that what this team lacked was something mental, about heart, leadership, focus, whatever you want to call it.
Those kind of statements (Brady’s) are exactly what is hurting this T-E-A-M. Yes, if you bring each instance of these players talking/acting a certain way up individually, it’s easy to say “That doesn’t matter, it’s what they do on the field!”
However, there is a cumulative effect-and, to put it differently, talk like that is not only a cause of, but also a symptom of attitudes in the lockerroom.
Part of why I’m “Realist” is because so many posters wanted to anoint this team as future champions, not only last year but even the year before. At the time, and As stated in the post above, I just don’t see either the talent some think, but more importantly not the kind of attitude that makes champions. I still don’t, but do believe this team is close enough in talent to others that it’s possible, if they pull their heads out, to be a serious team in the playoffs.
And every year, at FA, I agree with Luke—Whatever position we fill, I don’t really care, as much as the TYPE of player brought in. But it’ll take more than one ZThomas to turn this team around. Safety, OLine, LB-all good-but bring me a guy who knows how to win and play for the team!
by Realist Larry on Feb 24, 2009 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I fail to see how a guy expressing disappointment
or perceived lack of respect hurts this team in any way. Don’t you want guys who strive to be their best?
Don’t you want a guy who plays with a chip on his shoulder? Here’s a guy who already got his contract and he’s played better than ever. Yet somehow fans like to tear him down.
Sorry, but I think it’s a cheap shot at one of our best defensive players.
It’s the same kind of thinking that drove people to criticize Ware for slapping his hands on the turf after a sack. Again big deal. The guy was expressing a little passion and people slammed him for doing it during a losing game. I think people want to read way too much into small things.
Nobody is perfect, and to critique the minutiae is ridiculous.
Now where is the criticism of Hamlin. He gets the franchise tag and stays away from Valley Ranch while the rest of his team is working out. He gets his big contract and fails to deliver. These are the kinds of players that doom the team.
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by APerfectStar on Feb 25, 2009 12:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree..
Now I’m not sure how much affect of not having much experience playing next to Davis had on Hamlin getting some INTs but I do know that even without Roy the 2 Baltimore runs should not have happened on his watch…but I think Hamlin will bounce back, maybe that is just the eternal homer in me.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 25, 2009 12:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PerfectStar,
No I want them to strive for failure! And in that regard Bradie’s a complete success!
But seriously, you don’t need to look very far for examples of how to better handle situations. DeMarcus Ware had every reason to think his dominant 20 sack performance was enough to garner him Defensive MVP. It’s a feat only a handful of players have reached, yet when he missed out he handled it humbly and with class. He didn’t whine, he didn’t complain to the press, he congratulated Harrison and said that he’ll have to work even harder next year, have a n even bigger season and give the voters no choice next time. Oh and he did it with a smile on his face. In the meantime he went to the Pro Bowl.
Another example would be Jay Ratliff, he said… he said… ? Wait a minute I don’t think I’ve ever even heard this guy speak, he just gets its it done on the field week after week as a 298 pound 8 sack Nose Tackle. No trouble, no fuss, none of Bradie’s special style of ‘leadership’, just high motor production in a no-frills package. Oh and he went to the Pro Bowl, hear that Bradie?
by Luke. on Feb 25, 2009 7:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Some more...
And why do I have to criticize Hamlin? You’re really all over the place now. Yes Ken Hamlin had a bad year, I haven’t heard a single person defend him on this whole site, what’s that got to do with Bradie James being an above average player coming off a good season on the field and a bad one with his mouth who thinks he’s a Pro Bowl snubbed superstar?
Let me see if I follow your thinking here; Everytime we criticize a player on the Cowboys we must criticize Ken Hamlin as well, lest it be unfair. I think I’m following you.
Let me try; If Bradie James could cover RB’s and TE’s as good as he covers his arse to the press he’d be All-Pro… but hey at least he’s not Ken Hamlin!! Badda-bing BOOM!!!
What’s worse than Roy Williams, Greg Ellis, Terrence Newman, Bradie James, Chris Canty, Marcus Spears, Tank Johnson, Mike Jenkins, Terrell Owens, Patrick Crayton, Roy Williams#2 and Tony Romo making excuses for their play or throwing other players or their own coaches under the bus in front of the media… you guessed it, KEN HAMLIN!!!!
by Luke. on Feb 25, 2009 7:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Riiiight
Nice try, but I think anybody with common sense can follow what I said. You single out James and Newman for the horrible examples of leadership (again, reading too much into comments to the media and not actual play on the field) , in an article supposedly about the over-valuing of a player by him or his agent, ie Canty and Burnett, then you don’t bother to show a prime example of under achievement with Hamlin. Bit of a hypocritical attitude.
You don’t need to talk down to me, Luke, and you can drop the sarcasm. I find it much more offensive than you apparently found my criticism of your little post. I am a die hard Cowboys fan, and I can choose to take a position opposite yours without “fawning” all over a player. I happen to think your wrong about James and Newman, end of story.
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by APerfectStar on Feb 25, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh I think you nailed it
“more importantly not the kind of attitude that makes champions”. My sentiments in spades
by Benthere on Feb 25, 2009 1:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually think Olshanshy will get a larger contract..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 24, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not larger
but should be around the same general area. From what I gather, a lot of teams are switching to a 3-4, meaning they’ll both be highly sought after in the FA market. I’m pretty sure Jerry meant it when he said they wouldn’t really be players in free agency this year.
Canty was pretty good. Hate to see him go, but I don’t think his departure means we automatically have to target someone in FA. Draft probably, but there’s enough talent on the D-line to plug someone else in and go. My knowledge of depth of the D line is extremely limited, but aren’t Bowen and Hatcher pretty decent? I don’t know who actually plays behind Canty, but I’m pretty sure it’s one or the other.
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by the red scare on Feb 25, 2009 3:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 I agree..I'm pretty sure we can't find a Canty replacement in FA that would be considered an upgrade or better deal financially..
Bowen and Hatcher are more than adequate to fill Canty’s shoes, imo….I would like to think we need to draft a 3-4 DE, or two in this years draft though, as Marcus Spears will become a free agent after this upcoming season, and at the very least we need to protect against him fleeing, or at least add depth to the rotation…last years pick up of Dixon as an undrafted rookie may change our approach, but I don’t see him amounting to much…Jarron Gilbert in the 2nd round would be an ideal somewhat raw talent to pick up, but guys like Sammi Lee Hill, Chris Baker, Khalif Mitchell offer versatiliy to work inside or out…or Everette Pedesceaux in the later 5th-6th rounds would be a worthy investment as well.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 25, 2009 10:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately on Sirius this morning, they were saying how they didn't
think Dallas could afford Canty because a lot of teams are switching to the 3-4 so he will be in demand. They were saying he would probably get in the 8-9mil range. They also said that this is not a very good year for rookie DE’s. Canty will get paid really well-not by us though.
by texstar on Feb 25, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
true
Tyson Jackson of LSU looks like the only really good 3-4 DE in the draft and he’ll be a first rounder for sure.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 25, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, Tampa just cut several players among them Brooks,Galloway,Hilliard,Dunn,Cato June
they are going to be way under the cap with this purging.
by texstar on Feb 25, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
none of those players interest me
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 25, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow....Tampa will be like 40 million under the cap...
I believe we just found out where Albert Haynesworth is going……
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 25, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jackson's a bust waiting to happen, and I disagree that their aren't potentially decent 3-4 De's out there...
heck, I just named 5 in my last post that I feel will have as good, or better careers than Tyson Jackson.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 25, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Jackson
But he IMO is the same player as Marcus Spears….helps in the run but will never be flashy enough
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 25, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Luke
your right about Bradie James. Did he used to talk when Parcells was here? Don’t think so, same with Newman and others. Now James, Newman and others don’t shut up. James is overrated IMO. We have a great scheme, and a beast NT (in Ratliff) and OLB (in DWare) that covers his rear end. James can’t cover for crap and has a bad attitude as you pointed out. That’s the problem with the Cowboys as a whole, we have too many guys complain and run their mouths in the media.
by Burt88 on Feb 25, 2009 3:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Burt,
You’re right, we didn’t hear this stuff from Bradie or Newman under Parcells. But even Parcells couldn’t get the dumb plays out of some of these guys; we were still one of the most penalized teams under the hard nosed Parcells and we’re still one of the most penalized teams under the easy going Phillips. The common denominator here is the players lack of discipline and execution. As Larry said, there’s a lot of talent here but somethings lacking. If they can consistently focus their attention we’ve got the skill for a deep playoff run, but if they yap, whine and get penalized we’ll fall short again.
by Luke. on Feb 25, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Luke,
I agree that these guys don’t seem to get it. They think that they can say whatever they want. Until somone gets it across to them that they are not more important than the team, I can’t seem this team changing. BTW, I’m not a big DMN fan, but there is a great article online today about Romo-Friendly. I think that it explains where this team is wrong.
by texstar on Feb 25, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Texstar,
The Romo-friendly comment was a curious one. But yeah, the team hardly seemed anti-Romo in it’s make-up last year. He was the focal point of the offense and both Wade and Jerry almost always excused any mistakes he made on the field. Guess I’ll take a wait and see approach to that one because I’m not really sure what Jerry means.
by Luke. on Feb 25, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It could mean a couple of things..
someone (sorry don’t remember who) mentioned that it might mean that Jerry is hinting to the players that this is Romo’s team and that Jerry will back Romo, also it could mean that this year Romo tryed to be a pure pocket passing QB, which he does well but limits his improvisation and that we will get back to just allowing Romo to do what he does best.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 25, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo-friendly
means better pass protection and receivers getting open.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 26, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It could also mean shorter passes and more running plays.
Not necessarily the “big play”.
by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so
Any time Romo is really “hot” it’s when he’s spreading the ball around, not trying to force throws to one receiver or another. He’s actually really good when he allows himself to do so, not worrying about who’s catching how many balls.
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by the red scare on Feb 27, 2009 1:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
getting rid of T.O. would help that tremendously
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
more like benching him for forcing balls into coverage..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 27, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
which he has to do to apease T.O.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
which he "HAS" to do to appease T.O. -Terry
That’s the biggest BS statement i continuelly see on this site…….
Romo doesn’t HAVE to do anything beside hit the open target. If he wants to zero in on TO all the time, that’s on him…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 27, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you know that TO was holding a gun to his head forcing
him to throw him the ball? Yeah right-suuuuuurrrrrre-lol
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's not BS, it's the truth
Yeah, he could ignore T.O. and then you’ll really see T.O. implode our locker room.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 28, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rom forces passes to everybody.
He just makes bad decisions with ball sometimes. He forced passes to T.O., Witten, Crayton, and RW2.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 27, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Romo*
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 27, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Prime, it's the receivers fault.
Dob’t you know that. (I’m kidding of course)
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just like his fumbles are the OLINES fault too.-lol
because they didn’t protect him
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you read the story on DMN?
I know a lot of people don’t like them, but I actually agreed with everything he said.
by texstar on Feb 25, 2009 9:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I always do..
I don’t always agree with how they picture it but another perspective doesn’t hurt..and they are quick about getting any news out there.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 25, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PefectStar,
"Nice try" – Thanks, if only Bradie James gave such effort off-field!
"I think anybody with common sense can follow what I said" – I’ll take that bet…
"Bit of a hypocritical attitude" – No it’s not. I’ll explain it for you; If Blogger 1 is commenting on or criticizing Player X and Z, he’s under no obligation, whether moral or logical, to extend his criticism to every player on the team who might deserves it. It’s simply illogical to imply they must. If that was the case we couldn’t talk about anything without a never ending list of qualifiers to every statement.
"You don’t need to talk down to me" – And you didn’t need to personally insult me by claiming I talked nonsense and spoke BS, but you did, so I thought I’d join the fun! But now you’re upset!?
"I happen to think your wrong about James and Newman, end of story" – That’s fine, and might I say a much nicer way to say it than you first posited, let’s just agree to disagree, cheers.
by Luke. on Feb 25, 2009 5:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't resist could you?
“Nice try” – Thanks, if only Bradie James gave such effort off-field!
Such biting wit!
No it’s not. I’ll explain it for you
Gosh, thanks Luke. Be sure to type slow, so’s I can understand more better.
No upset feelings on my end. You’re just a person typing from a computer somewhere, and sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I’m just a person typing from a computer somewhere also who disagrees with you. (Except the part about agreeing to disagree. I’ll agree with that.)
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by APerfectStar on Feb 25, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PerfectStar,
Resist what? I’m sorry, I was under the impression that replying to comments directed at your own comments was perfectly exceptable, if not, encouraged. Am I now to understand that we are supposed to resist the urge to reply?
"No upset feelings on my end" – No hurt feelings at all here either. All in good fun.
"Be sure to type slow" – It’s the only way I can!
"I’ll agree with that" – Cool :)
No hard feelings here PerfectStar, I’m just joking around.
by Luke. on Feb 25, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
James is the Captain of the Defense.
So I don’t care if he talks to the media
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 25, 2009 7:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Also about James..
He led all ILBs in sacks and the pro bowl is a way that guys get respect. James was very upset at not making the playoffs but now he feels that his peers don’t respect what he did which will hopefully put a big Lay’s chip on his shoulder so he plays even better this year…
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 25, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about a few players
your thoughts pretty much sum of my thoughts about bradie, though he did play with a great passion for those 8 or so weeks up untill the ravens game breakdown. I think/hoped he may’ve turned a corner. Off the field though, the guy is surely not the right leader for this team. I remember that, i think after the bengals game he excused our poor play by saying that it doens’t matter how you win, and that they weren’t at all concerned with their play.
Newman is a guy who loves football, and loves to practice. Everything before this year suggests that hes nothing but a model teammate. I think we kinda have to believe that last year things just broke down, and not to take what they said this last year as what will happen going forward.
by foyesboys on Feb 26, 2009 5:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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