Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Bracketology 2012: Duke Finally Steps Up To The No. 1 Line

Cowboys tender their RFAs

The Dallas Cowboys finally got down to business and made tender offers to their RFAs. Surprisingly, four out of the five got tendered at the second-round level.

Wide receiver Miles Austin, defensive end Stephen Bowen, wide receiver Sam Hurd and guard Cory Procter each received the league's $1.545 million restricted tender, which secures right of first refusal and second-round compensation should the Cowboys choose not to match another team's offer sheet.

Second-round tender

Miles Austin - Kind of a no-brainer. In fact, the only real question was if the Cowboys might go to a first-round tender. But I think they got it right. Austin has the physical gifts you want in a WR. Size and speed. He's also started to round into form in terms of catching the ball, something he struggled with for quite a while. Before this year, I used to think his best play was go deep and get a pass interference call, but he began showing signs of being a serious deep threat before he got hurt. Without the second-round tender he would have surely gotten offers from other teams. With the tender, teams will think twice, or three times, before making an offer. Sure, he looks the part and is still young and improving, but dishing out a second round pick based on potential is a tough pill to swallow for another team.

Stephen Bowen - This was a must, not because Bowen is such a great player but because with the likelihood that Chris Canty has played his last game as a Cowboy, Dallas had to protect themselves. Either Bowen or Jason Hatcher is going to get the first shot at replacing Canty (assuming he does leave) unless they figure out a way to get some serious help at NT and are able to move Jay Ratliff back to DE. I don't expect any team to give up a second-round pick to acquire Bowen.

Sam Hurd - Kind of curious, they probably could have gone with the lower ($1.01 million) tender and still gotten away with it. I don't think Hurd is going to be targeted by other teams for WR purposes, but they may have feared a team coming in and grabbing him for special teams. Hurd does do a very good job on those units and he could still contribute as a WR if needed. I'm OK with the move considering its only half-a-million dollars more. (Notice how nonchalant I am with Jerry's money)

Cory Procter - WTF? I just have no words for this.

Not tendered

Tony Curtis - Star of stage and screen Tony Curtis no longer a Cowboy? Say it isn't so. I kid! Maybe they bring him back at a cheap price or maybe they like Rodney Hannah enough to go with him as the third TE. Either way, I'm good with this move.

By the way, the Cowboys and every team in the NFL just got an extra $4 million in cap room. We could use it. 

Comment 183 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Proctor's tender

is a stark commentary on the dearth of backup OL in this league.

We know he’s a mediocre player, but let’s remember:
Mike Lombardi’s assessment of free agent center had Joe Berger, Proctor’s backup, as the 5th best prospect on the market.

Think about that. Proctor’s backup, a guy who didn’t play a down last year, is the 5th best free agent center prospect this year.

That’s why Proctor got the tender. It doesn’t mean he’s good. It means there’s nobody better than him out there.

by Rafael Vela on Feb 25, 2009 11:16 PM CST reply actions  

I think it's less a commentary on Berger

and more a terrible evaluation by Mike Lomabardi. And Procter being mediocre is stretching it. Berger is nowhere near the 5th best FA prospect at his position. He couldn’t even get on the field for us when we cycled thru Procter and Holland. Lombardi has him above Jeff Saturday? I like Lombardi, but he’s off on that one. We’ve seen what Procter is capable of, mainly getting Romo killed. There’s no reason to tender him at that level.

by Dave Halprin on Feb 25, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Procter was awful at guard

but he does seem to play a little bit better at center for whatever reason. I think Raf is correct, however. This is more or less insurance if they can’t find anyone in the draft to come in and beat him out in TC.

Because what happens if you sign him to a low tender and someone signs him? There is too big of a risk that the person they draft to replace him would suck even more.

by quincyyyyy on Feb 25, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

He has to be an insurance policy… If I was Jerry though I would call Al Davis and be like man we got this guy Proctor who is awesome and all you gotta do is give us a second round pick and he is all yours

by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 25, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Insuarance policy?

If his play this year was indicative of the kind of insurance coverage he provides, time to call Geico. Give me that gecko over Procter.

by Dave Halprin on Feb 26, 2009 12:00 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

This was just plain stupid.

Dallas may have upgraded their draft evaluations by staying closer to Ciskowski’s board, but they have a long way to go in evaluatiing their own roster with dispassionate eyes.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Feb 26, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Proctor is Good in Space

Remember Choice and his runs; more than a few of these had Proctor making decent blocks and Proctor is actually pretty good at pulling and leading the way around the other end. Offensive linemen develop later than almost any other position. Proctor is a whipping boy by many Cowboy fans mostly because he did have a few bad quarters against some of the most feared pass rushers in the game; at the same time, all of the Dallas offensive linemen were having the same type troubles; Davis and Flo in particular had some terrible moments.

by Iowacowboy on Feb 26, 2009 7:20 AM CST up reply actions  

He was horrendous at times though

Makes me want to punch a baby thinking about it.

by hiafex on Feb 26, 2009 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

A few...

“Bad quarters”?

He didn’t just have bad games against feared pass rushers, he was aweful against anybody in passing situations.

He got pushed back into the backfield consistently throughout the season.

He’s the whipping boy because you could see that there was a huge difference in the line with him in and with Kosier or Holland.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Feb 26, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

No he's not mediocre

He’s horrible. Too weak and top heavy to withstand a bull-rush and too slow to block in space. I saw him make literally 3 excellent blocks all season, and almost everytime Romo got crushed was a result of Proctor’s incompetence. He has no business in the NFL.

Resigning him reinforces to me that Jerry Jones is no more competent than Proctor.

by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Feb 26, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

just to keep everyone focused here...He has not been resigned yet, just protected from going freely to another team.

If he is beaten out in in training camp, and doesn’t make the roster, we lose nothing. But he is versatile, and will be needed in camp for competition. I am willing to bet he would have been picked up in given the lower tender…Remember, he needs to be replaced before we can let him walk. He won’t be on next years roster, and if so, he will be strickly a back up Center, unless we draft one, and will never play OG again.

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

If Berger is the 5th

best out there, then there is just a lack of justice in this world. Buy water, powdered milk, powdered eggs, flour and sugar, because the end is near.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 25, 2009 11:27 PM CST reply actions  

That extra $4 million...

…is huge. I just didn’t see how the Cowboys could extend D-Ware and still have enough room to go after any impact free agents. To me, this means they could sign Ray Lewis, extend D-Ware, and sign a couple guys for depth purposes.

Please please please Ray Lewis!!! We have talent, we need more leadership.

by GhettoBear04 on Feb 25, 2009 11:28 PM CST reply actions  

It's not 'huge' when every other team gets it too!

There’s no advantage to the Cowboys.

It’s ‘huge’ for NFL players, a few FA’s just got higher salaries.

I agree w/just uping whatever the offer is to Ware by $4 Mill and getting that done.

by Realist Larry on Feb 26, 2009 12:54 AM CST up reply actions  

It is significant because most teams dont spend it

the reason there is an extra 4 mil is cause teams have been cheap. with the economy we can expect them to be even cheaper. so yes it is significant. i avoid saying huge because that might be much but it definitely does give us room to sign Canty or gibril Wilson or another player. so it is big. this preety much translates to a quality veteran starter.

although it just put us back in the market for bart scott. i hope we do not go that way. we need to spread this money out to several positions.

by Becho on Feb 26, 2009 1:06 AM CST up reply actions  

+1 Ghetto...we are now over 16 million under the cap..woo hoo...let the signing begin already.

I still anticipate Roy Williams (2mm), Brad Johnson (2mm), and possibly Greg Ellis(4mm) being cut, which would free up another 8 million in cap room…enough to sign Ware, Lewis, Wilson, our RFA’s, and our rookies..

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 25, 2009 11:41 PM CST reply actions  

Also..

Jerry and Stephen are magic when it comes to restructuring deals to free up even more cap room where the player doesn’t take a pay cut. They did it last year with Romo’s and Flo’s, this year they could do it to Barber’s, Hamlin’s and Newman’s deals…Now do we really believe that Jerry isn’t going to at least make the call to Ray….No way he doesn’t make that call.

by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 25, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree about restructuring

If the Cowboys want to go after some free agents, they could surely get some restructuring done. I wonder how serious Jerry was about the ‘no splash in free agency’ stance.

by Dave Halprin on Feb 26, 2009 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Whoops, hit post too quick...

The problem is the time factor. If you want to restructure deals in time to have a shot at any big name FA’s, you probably should have started those conversations by now. Of course with the gag order in effect, maybe they have and we don’t know.

by Dave Halprin on Feb 26, 2009 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Jerry's completely serious.

The exception would be maybe Ray Lewis, if he really would take less pay to come here.

I’m OK with that. We’ve had enough ‘splash’ in FA, and what have we gotten? Bring in solid, dependable guys, for depth, maybe 1 or 2 to challenge the starters, esp. at safety.

It is indeed looking more and more like Owens is staying, though. I can’t believe they’d wait till after FA and the draft THEN let him go.
Darn.

by Realist Larry on Feb 26, 2009 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

they might be trying to trade him...

Or they could be keeping him as insurance if they don’t get to draft a certain receiver…who knows

by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 26, 2009 2:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Restructuring deals...

The way Jerry writes many of the original deals gives the team the option to “restructure” during the life of the contract.

The way it works is this: For a given year, the team has the option of converting the base salary into a minimum salary and the difference into a signing bonus. The bonus gets pro rated over the remaining life of the contract, thereby reducing the cap figure for the given year. The player gets most of his money (the exact same total dollars) before the season starts. So its to the benefit of the players to go through this. They get their money earlier. And the team gets some cap relief.

Again, these provisions are written into many of the long term contracts.

by Ridgelake on Feb 26, 2009 7:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Ellis has too much value to this team as a rusher.

I think Henry is more likely to get cut. He would add 3.6 million to the cap.

Right now I don’t think Henry has much value to the team. He was OK last year, and could very well start sucking hard this year, as he will be turning 33 in November. I’m also not so keen on him as a safety as some here are.

I think cutting Henry, Roy, and Johnson would be a good move. That is like adding 9.6 mil to your cap. With that you could sign a big name FA.

by quincyyyyy on Feb 25, 2009 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

I’m not sold on Henry being a FS either..he is too injury prone.

by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 25, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

for what he would cost

sign a legit FS. Henry is injured 4-5 games every year. Put him at a collision position like
safety and he’s liable to miss more.

by Rafael Vela on Feb 26, 2009 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

cut him for Gribril Wilson's salary?

I like Henry, but Henry + Roy’s salary in the secondary is worth 1 better SS to me

by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

If Tampa Bay can cut Brooks & Dunn, nobody's safe.

OK that was lame but when I read it today for some reason I couldn’t resist..

by Benthere on Feb 26, 2009 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree on Ellis

He still has value because Spencer didn’t show up last year, and until he does, I’d be nervous about losing Ellis.

On cutting Henry, are you saying the team clears 3.6 mil, or has to eat 3.6 mil?

Feb. 18-24 -- NFL Scouting Combine
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Feb 26, 2009 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

He is a FA next year and has a roster bonust of 1 mil in March, 2 mil in signing bonus, and 2.6 mil in base salary

so we would save 3.6 mil. If I remember correctly, but you can go onto rotoworld and check for yourself.

by quincyyyyy on Feb 26, 2009 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

who Ellis or Henry?

If we could save 3.6 by cutting Ellis he is all but gone. I can’t see paying him that much for a part time LB this year.

by Boyzfan94 on Feb 26, 2009 12:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Hmm

If they save that much, yeah I’d have to say let him go. He’s too slow to start at CB at this point, and with the rookies from last season we should be set.

Feb. 18-24 -- NFL Scouting Combine
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Feb 26, 2009 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

what??

Ellis has nothing left….did you see him play last year. Spencer was hurt most of the season and he came on the second half. Ellis has one foot out the door. He will be nothing more than a 3rd down OLB this season.

by Boyzfan94 on Feb 26, 2009 12:48 AM CST up reply actions  

And he'll whine about it, but still.

A great guy to have around for one more year, because not only Spencer but even Ware could get hurt. It’d be nice to have him there.
Let’s just hope he accepts the role this time.

by Realist Larry on Feb 26, 2009 12:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Ellis isn't the same player he was in 2007

But really, can they just cut him with only Ware and Spencer? They would have to hope they landed a good OLB in the draft, and those guys need a season to learn how to play, so I’d say it’s too soon to cut him, even if he’s just a 3rd down player.

With more teams going to a 3-4 this season, I doubt we could find any bargain FA’s either.

Feb. 18-24 -- NFL Scouting Combine
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Feb 26, 2009 1:07 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

He was a totally different player and got lucky to get 8 sacks…without Ware there he wouldn’t of had 3

by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 26, 2009 2:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I just hate to see them keep using cap space on an aging malcontent.

This is the best year for 3-4 outside linebackers in a very long time. It is also true that there are more 3-4 teams than there have been in a long time, so the pool will be a little thinner. Maybe OLB has to become more of a priority, and deserves a serious look in the 3rd or 4th round.

All we need to do is a find a 3rd rusher. He doesn’t have to be well rounded, he just has to rush the passer, and be good enough to step in in an emergency.

If all plans go to hell, we still have Justin Rogers, and Carp could always be moved back out.

HATERADE: Two scoops of Eric Allen, add water and stir.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 26, 2009 5:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...

He’s better as a situational rusher.

But he still had 8 sacks.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Feb 26, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

It’s easy to say he got those sacks because of the attention Ware got, but he’s a veteran presence that knows how to beat the one on one blocks that come his way. He still has value to this team

"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee

by BigDinSC on Feb 26, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

120 Hours

Most importantly, in the next few days, the Dallas Cowboys should land a signal caller who will push, if not replace, the best QB never to win a playoff game. If the Cowboys play their cards right, Romo could permanently be on Spring Break chasing late-night buffets, comfortable confines, and loose women. It’s time for the Dallas Cowboys to make a defensive replacement for Bill Buckner, and Tex is pleased to announce that that switch could come in the next 120 hours.

by Montecito Tex on Feb 26, 2009 12:44 AM CST reply actions  

Don't even bother, dude.

he loves it when the whole post becomes about him.

Like a car wreck, keep moving.

by Realist Larry on Feb 26, 2009 1:00 AM CST up reply actions  

you keep moving along when you see a car wreck?
isn’t that illegal?

by mahuebel on Feb 26, 2009 1:18 AM CST up reply actions  

That is retarded..

We finally find our Franchise QB and now your calling for him to be replaced…What FA is gonna take Romo’s place…and why would the other team involved even let them make it to FA.

by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 26, 2009 2:10 AM CST up reply actions  

There is no logic in Tex's posts

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 26, 2009 5:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Tex is a Romo hater

because he beat out his boy Henson, who was probably one of the worst qbs whoever put on a pair of spikes.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 26, 2009 8:01 AM CST up reply actions  

the same guy that started over Tom Brady at Michigan ??

I think his time away from the game was more of a decider in his inability to regain his form…so i wouldn’t go as far to call him the worst to ever play.

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 8:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I didn't call him the worst

I said one of the worst

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 26, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Henson sucked at baseball too

He got millions of dollars from the Yankees and millions of dollars from the Cowboys. All he has to do is sucker the Celtics or the Lakers, and he will conned the premier franchises in the three major sports.

Maybe he can get a few million out of Augusta for an appearance fee at the Masters

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Feb 26, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Mistaken identity?

Maybe Tex is Drew Henson. Sitting alone, drinking six-packs and embittered about his Cowboys experience!

by Johnny Cage on Feb 26, 2009 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

That's an interesting theory, actually

Drew has more than enough money from the Yankees and Cowboys to never have to work again— maybe he just trolls message boards and posts criticisms of Romo.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Feb 26, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Drew Henson is the best QB to never win a game. period.

"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee

by BigDinSC on Feb 26, 2009 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey Guys, don't be so hard on the kid.

Remember they basically just threw the poor kid in there because they were getting so much flack with Chad Hutchinson and whoever else was there. I can’t even remember because it’s like a bad dream. I mean you gotta feel sorry for Henson. First he’s thrown to the wolves here. Then of all teams to play on- The LIONS. The Lions dude. I’m not defending “Montecito Tex” but give Henson a break. Also, don’t ever confuse me with Montecito.-lol

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Could the Proctor tender possibly be dolphin/tuna bait?

Seeing how the market is thin (if Miami is in the market) and that they have an extra second round pick (and Dallas could use one) and knowing tuna’s affinity for players he knows, especially versatile linemen…it might be a stretch but I’m just asking.

If you are beating a dead horse, you might be a Cowboys fan.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...

by icStars on Feb 26, 2009 1:02 AM CST reply actions  

If Hurd had been a draft choice they may have gone with the lower tender

But the lower tender only protects him with a pick at his original draft round level – i.e. nothing as an undrafted FA….

With just a $1M salary and no pick to give up – I think some team would have almost certainly picked him up as a potential 3rd WR and special teams guy with development potential. I don’t think he’s at risk with a 2nd round on the table.

I’ve liked him ever since he pancaked Archuletta in Chicago in 07.

"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson

by BoyfromOz on Feb 26, 2009 1:11 AM CST reply actions  

Correct me if I'm wrong

But doesn’t Ray Lewis play more of Bradie James’ position. Wade’s defense seems to work better when one of the linebackers can really cover. Ray can cover a little, he’s got a lot of career picks. I just remember what it was like when we had two Bradie James’ (Akin Ayodele). Wasn’t very effective.

I’m not saying go after Donnie Edwards’ old behind, but wouldn’t the defense work better if we had that type of player?

HATERADE: Two scoops of Eric Allen, add water and stir.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 26, 2009 5:44 AM CST reply actions  

Could Carpenter be that kind of guy?

I wouldn’t pin this season on it, but I hope so. We should get somebody else, but I’d like to see Carpenter be that guy that can play in space, “cover a little” as you say.

by Johnny Cage on Feb 26, 2009 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

ILBs don't always play in space

Carp has proven without any doubt that he isn’t tough or physical enough to play inside so to answer your question…absolutely not.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 26, 2009 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I saw the DMN blog about this.

I think Ray Lewis can play the other ILB spot well. If he required to play James’ spot, then I would have second thoughts about it because James plays better moving forward.

Lewis may not be as quick as he once was in coverage, but he still has the experience and know how for how to be in the right position at the right time, and really, we haven’t even had that very much lately.

by GhettoBear04 on Feb 26, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes he does Glory..

The reason I said Bart Scott is a better fit…Ray would have to come in and play a different position.

by Boyzfan94 on Feb 26, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey Grizz

U had me ROTFL with…

Cory Procter – WTF? I just have no words for this.

HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Feb 26, 2009 6:41 AM CST reply actions  

The funniest things in life

are often the saddest shown in a new light. And, Proctor as a second round tender? That is sooooo sad/funny.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 26, 2009 7:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I truly think Jerry has become senile.

He doesn’t address our true needs by safety and tendering Procter?

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

It May Be Funny

But . . . it is an incorrect assessment of Proctor’s talent and value. Sorry to say it, but Cowboy fans have joined in like a mad posse trying to run Proctor out of town. Proctor made many good blocks springing our running game; especially Choice. He graded out as the best linemen in the second Giants game (I think it was) and he is capable of playing center. He actually snaps the ball much better than Gurode who is mentally handicapped with the yips and the inability to snap the ball with any consistency. And Gurode make the Pro Bowl? Proctor is still developing; it is sad to see sophisticated football fans go off on a player like Proctor who at least gives it his all, unlike say some of the prima donna players like the WR we overpaid for from Detroit.

by Iowacowboy on Feb 26, 2009 7:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Idon't know if

it is a lack of talent or coaching, but as bad as our offensive line played last year a 300 pound lard butt off the street could have come in at times and played better. Romo, Felix, Marion and Choice all made these guys look better than they played. Now, that being said, if you are the back up to the backup then you shouldn’t be in the top five of any list unless it is for the sucktacular lineman of the year.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 26, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

The tenders...

Bowen’s was right on. Hurd’s surprised me a bit. I thought a standard tender would be enough for him. Proctor? I guess Raf is right saying its a commentary on how bad the talent pool is.

Austin. I believe he should have been given a 1st round tender. I sure hope Miami, New England, or Tennessee doesnt decide to give up their #60 pick or thereabouts to sign the guy many are considering TO’s replacement. Risky, risky, risky.

by Ridgelake on Feb 26, 2009 7:46 AM CST reply actions  

co-sign

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Feb 26, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I bet a lot of teams like Hurd, before Austin was exciting, Hurd had a knack for making plays

He’s the closest thing to a sure bet in an onside’s kick. He caught one in 2007 and nearly did 2008

by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

So true, so true...

…I actually enjoy watching Hurd do many little things to help the team win.

Making special teams tackles, forcing fumbles on returns, recovering fumbles on returns, recovering onsides kicks (as you well mentioned AA), making occasional plays after catches on O, and even blocking well on offense, as well.

Hurd is a great role player with an exceptional team-first attitude.

And that’s why he’s so likable — IMHO…

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Feb 26, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Franchise Tag?

Who have we franchised this year? For the life of me I cant remember….Tx to whomever..

"What a waste of a draft pick" Some Moron on the selection of Nick Folk

by jgoddard8409 on Feb 26, 2009 7:57 AM CST reply actions  

I'm thinking we should've franchised Canty...and then tried to move him in a trade...

maybe a 1st- 2nd rounder ?

not sure what the implications would have been if he signed it…I believe we could’ve dropped the tag if there was no interest, and he didn’t sign, but not quite sure what happens if he does sign it, and nobody trades for him..the money is supposedly guaranteed ? even if he’s cut prior to the final roster being submitted ? help me out fellas..

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 8:46 AM CST up reply actions  

you got to be kidding

We could never get a first or second rounder for Canty, if he was that good, Jerry would have already had him signed, sealed and delivered. (great Stevie W song btw)

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 26, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree Numba....

There’s a reason that these other teams have him on their radar. 3-4 DE are in short supply. Good ones that is. To prove the point, look what the Boys did. They tendered Bowen. They can’t afford to lose him too.

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Whoa Nelly!

What exactly has Canty done that makes everyone say he is so valuable?

Sorry, but maybe we’ve all fallen in love withour own roster, but show me the production before we cry over Canty’s imminent departure.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Feb 26, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying he's wonderful but according to analysts

this is a very weak FA/rookie class for the 3-4 DE. Not saying that Canty’s the best, but you kind of wonder if Bowen can handle it? It’s basically just a question of supply vs demand. Remember GB and Denver are both converting to the 3-4 and Miami supposedly wants Canty too. I just hate to see Miami get more of our guys that we cast off. Makes me kinda question our coaching staff/Jerry. Maybe I’m just being paranoid.

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

i'm have love for Canty anymore...but to say he isn't worthy of a second round pick in down foolish.

I don’t see any player in the second round or later ready to sign a 10+ million dollar signing bonus…..nuff said on the subject.

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Remember back when A. Gurode was a FA and he was allowed to test the FA

waters, he ended up signing with dallas, it is possible that canty may not like what he finds, besides the Tommy Kelly deal is going to be restructured to help the Raiders get some cap room.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Feb 26, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I just cannot believe he did not want to see if there were any other offers

or it could be that he drew very little interest from other teams. Its not official yet but it looks like either JJ missed an opportunity or decided it was not worth it.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Feb 26, 2009 8:02 AM CST reply actions  

so is this a good deal for them?

looks like it a little. about 6 mil a year. would have been similar to roy’s and less than hamlin right?

by Becho on Feb 26, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

that contract is in line with what he should have been signed for last year...

good deal for him, and Miami….and in lines with what i thought he’d get…

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Gotta give Miami credit....

they seem to be on top of things. Wait, they’ll go for Canty too.

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Miami kinda makes me nervous. They know too much about us and our players. I’m still wondering why we traded Ferguson to them. Oh well!

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't be surprised btw if Miami ends up with Coles either. He fits their profile.

According to Schefter, Sean Jones(Cleveland) might be a sleeper and possibly Jermaine Phillips? Also, reporting that Williams very well might get cut.

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

I’m surprised TB didn’t re-sign him, he’s the top SS available and will command the highest price, but TB has cleared the cap room to make him a good offer.

I don’t know that Dallas can afford a guy of his caliber, but it would be nice if it somehow worked out. Now that Gibril is off the table, I’d say Sean Jones is the next best and could be affordable. The other option is moving Henry to FS and Hamlin to SS and drafting backups/future starters in the middle rounds.

Feb. 18-24 -- NFL Scouting Combine
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Feb 26, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I may be off base

but I thought Hamlin was a SS? Why are we looking at SS when what we really need is a FS?

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 27, 2009 7:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I think you're right....

I don’t know why but I got a bad feeling about Roy leaving. Remind me again, why is he so bad? I’m probably just being sentimental cause I know he’s been stinking it up, but our luck we let him go and he does wonderful things in another atmosphere.

by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

From my perspective we need a FS

that can cover. He needs to be able to play center field on passes and come up in run support. I think Roy’s demise came because of his lack of recognition. Unless the offense just plain telegraphs what they are doing ala Garret he gets confused and out of place. He was good with Woody, because he could be a run stopper first and just take a little coverage responsibility.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 27, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

but if they’re really gonna cut him loose, they better have a plan because Watkins and Davis don’t cut the mustard imo

by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think there is a better Safety left in FA....IF we cut Roy...

That all but assures us that Henry will be playing FS next season, and Hamlin is moved to SS…

They will not be paying big money on a Safety in FA….none are with it at this point..

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 4:27 AM CST up reply actions  

That's what I'm thinking too.

In that case, I’d probably keep Roy maybe.

by texstar on Feb 28, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

his price tag would be a bit steep...

If I had to choose between a guy like Gibril Wilson or LB Lewis or Scott…you got to go with the LB. We actually have Safeties on our current roster…LB, a different story…unless your willing to count Carp as a viable option…and I sure ain’t

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 8:26 AM CST reply actions  

yeah but

its not a definitive that zach thomas will be gone. Id be content with our LB core next if we get a better saftey. Would you rather rely on the safeties we got or our LBs? Id rather roll the dice on carp and zach thomas and burnett rather than RW1, Watkins, Davis, Ball?

I absolutely think for this Defense to go to the next level it has to start with a huge upgrade at SS and maybe FS

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Feb 26, 2009 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Viable options at safety?! Who?

Did you watch last year. What viable safety did u see.

by squidlo97 on Feb 26, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions  

you talking to me ? squid...

I was talking about Carpenter being an option at ILB….which he’s not…..

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I just think we are hurting way more at S than LB.

Im not defending Carp anymore. I dont think he has gotten to play enough to make a decision but In the spot duty he has gotten, I have been underwhelmed. I would still take him at LB over KD at safety though. KD has had many starts and is terrible. That dude isnt going to get better. Roy has a big bullseye on his back in coverage. Courtney cant get on the field with KD in front of him. Hamlin is average and trying to help cover for the strong safety has fallen to awful. We had 59 sacks(league leading) and consistent pressure and still couldnt cover anyone. If we cant get a LB we can resign Zack, if we dont get a safety we are f@@ked.

by squidlo97 on Feb 26, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I strongly disagree

Safety has been a gaping hole for us for 4-5 years now. Our LB corps is one of our strengths, and we still have the option of re-signing Burnett/Thomas and drafting a mid round guy to give us depth at the second ILB spot. At safety, all we have are proven failures.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Feb 26, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Zack and Burnett are UFA...you can't count on them at all...

Wilson is signed sealed and delivered…no sense of even talking about him now…Jerry had his chance to grab him, and didn’t…obviously the Cowboys pro personel dept. didn’t feel he was worth it…I am pretty sure they looked into him at least…

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 8:37 AM CST reply actions  

I would go for the young guy out of NE, S- Sanders

or go the seasoned veteran route with Brian Dawkins, who has a few good years left in him…

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 8:38 AM CST reply actions  

Numba, I just saw the news....

What no Wilson? I heard that Eugene Wilson, FA off of Texans was available. Don’t laugh, cause it’s the Texans,but they were saying how he’s a solid hybrid corner/safety. Know anything about him? He’s only 27. Was on the Patriot for 4 or 5 years then Texans 1 year. Any info?

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I heard they just released safety will demps.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Feb 26, 2009 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

So they're trying to resign Texans?

Familiar with Eugene Wilson? I’m not but Jim Miller was talking him up last night on Sirius. Don’t know how reliable Jim Miller is but he played with up with the Pats.

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

No but you mentioned Eugene as a saftey the Texans released, I mentioned demps because

he was also released. I have no idea if he is a good player.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Feb 26, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Eugene Wilson has been mentioned as a possible lower cost option at SS

He played alright for the Pats…haven’t followed him lately, and don’t know how he faired in Houston..

He’s better than our current SS options….and I really don’t see Hamlin moving to SS….

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Dawkins would worry me

I’d be concerned that at some crucial point in the season, just as Ware was about to take down the QB, Dawkins would come out of nowhere, hit Ware in the back with a folding chair, and then rip off his Cowboys jersey to reveal an Eagles jersey underneath.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Feb 26, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

In true WWE fashion,

there was a bit on Fox Radio about 3 years ago they were discussing a game between the steeler’s and pats playing in Pittsburgh. A pats player was hurt and usually the home team medical staff comes in to help out the road team’s medical staff at times. Belicheck shoos away the steeler’s staff as if he does not trust them.

The radio host sarcastically says, what is afraid the steeler’s doctor is going to hurt his player; then the host’s producer impersonates a WWE announcer:

“Here comes a medical staff member from the steeler’s, he looking at the ankle and OMG he twists his ankle the other way causing even more damage, who could have seen that coming?”

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Feb 26, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

lol

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Feb 26, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Now, I don't know if Wilson was released.

They just said he is a FA. BTW, is anyone else finding the site slow to load. I can’t figure out if it’s my laptop.

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 9:21 AM CST reply actions  

It must be you.

JK. It is a little slow when I refresh.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 26, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I would be wary

of any player that can’t make the Texan’s squad. That is only one step up from getting released from the Raiders.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 26, 2009 9:22 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah but I gurantee you that he was also a cap casualty.

after their CB got that huge deal they had to trim some cap space. Tommy Kelly is having to restructure his deal along with the fact that they brought back micheal huff after they cut him because Wilson was not willing to take a pay cut; he could have also wanted to leave them anyway to go to a better team. Wilson took advantage of a huge payday opportunity and got 16 mil guranteed; so when they give him the option to stay at lower pay he probably said no. Does that mean he was a great safety, no, but Raf knew enough about him to put a post saying that he is better and would come cheaper than RW1. So it’s more than just the guy was cut from the raiders he is persona non grata. Remember that R. Moss was considered washed up until he went to the pats. The raiders are like the bermuda triangle of the NFL; coaches and careers are distorted and cannot be taken at face value, i. e.if they were let go from the raiders they must suck.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Feb 26, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

nah, we're cool.....

I’m just frustrated cause my laptop is loading soooooo slow.

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, Yes you did.

JK

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 26, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Demps, Weaver were both cap casualties, some think it's because they may make a play for

J. Peppers, but the texans do no play a 3-4 that he supposedly wants to go play for.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Feb 26, 2009 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Vincent Fuller

Would anyone be interested in Fuller if he doesn’t re-sign with the Titans? He’s been a really good nickel back for them and will probably get offers to start at S from teams. He took 2 picks to the house in 2007. He’s young too.

by Blammo on Feb 26, 2009 10:06 AM CST reply actions  

He is?

Why is he a beast? I’m not skeptical, I just know nothing about the guy.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Feb 26, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

16.9 for the first 3 years for gibril

true we do not have much of the details but that is not too bad. i would hate to see us pay more than this for someone else

by Becho on Feb 26, 2009 10:56 AM CST reply actions  

Do we think that Hurd's tender means TO might be gone by June 1?

Assuming we keep Stanback as well, that’s a lot of WRs that we’re paying money too, especially if we draft a burner in the middle rounds.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Feb 26, 2009 11:01 AM CST reply actions  

I don't

But I do expect an end to the story about Hurd and Miles getting better. I expect RW2, Hurd, Austin, Crayton and TO to go at in training camp as if for playing time. If Hurd, Miles and Crayton can’t put preasure on RW2 or TO I expect one to be gone. I also want to see where Stanback is.

by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

dude TO is staying. step away from the bong.

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Feb 26, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be so sure about that

I’ll believe it come June 1 if he’s still on the roster.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 26, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not smoking anything

But why would we keep 6 WRs on our roster, with at least 5 of them at a decently high salary?

Owens
Williams
Crayton
Hurd
Austin
Stanback

Given these new tenders on Hurd and Austin, and taking into account what the other 4 are already being paid, that’s a LOT of money tied up at the WR position. Plus people are talking about us taking a burner WR in the middle rounds, probably Day 2, to give us some deep threat depth.

That’s too many wideouts and too much $ locked into the position. I just don’t see all 6 of those guys being on the opening day roster. That’s why I speculate that maybe Jerry is not wedded to keeping Owens.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Feb 26, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the staff doesn't want Hurd to go in case Stanback looks bad in TC

If Stanback shows growth at the position, I don’t think Hurd lasts through August, but they don’t want that insurance policy to go to someone else for no compensation.

"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee

by BigDinSC on Feb 26, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I know OL player can take sometime to develop

is Proctor really a viable player down the line? At guard?

by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

The only thing that I can think of is his ability to play both Guard/Center.

One player-two positions. Not saying he’s any good but in case of an emergency? The question which I guess we don’t know is there anybody else not better?

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

It must be his ability

to play center, because he sure can’t play guard.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 26, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Hate to tell ya,

but he was pretty bad at center too!

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know

what else to say to that. You got me?

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Feb 26, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

BTW, I switched over to aol/roadrunner from

internet explore/roadrunner and it’s much faster. Must be IE. It’s usually the other way around. Someone needs to talk with Crabtree and tell him not to talk with the media. Poor kid.

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

not really

But I don’t really swing that way (Not that there’s anything wrong with that)

: )

"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee

by BigDinSC on Feb 26, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't seem like a fit in a 3-4

Plus I don’t know if we need to get older on defense

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Feb 26, 2009 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Brooks is a hall of famer...and still has another year in him....

nickle LB and situational pass rusher..not sure if he can hold up at his age in a 3-4…he’s better than Donnie Edwards..and he did it for years…so who knows..

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

They were saying on NFL Network that he'd have to come pretty cheap

and they didn’t know if he’d want to do that but who knows? TB fans are pretty mad that they cut him.

by texstar on Feb 26, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

that was a shameful act over in Tampa....you don't just cut your franchise''s best player with no fanfare

60 million under the cap for pete’s sake…do the man right…and he should leave on his own terms…

by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 4:31 AM CST up reply actions  

+1.....

I heard him yesterday on Sirius…..he’s a class act…Poor guy, he was in shock but he never said anything negative about the Bucs. Their fans are in an uproar.

by texstar on Feb 28, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

WTF? Proctor gets a tender?

This is pure madness. I don’t pretend to watch coaches tape. I can see with my own two eyes. The man can not play at this level. Perhaps if Flozell was 10 years younger and still hungry for some respect and a payday, and could help hide Proctor’s flaws. Jerry? Are you huffing paint?

by cowboymikemc on Feb 26, 2009 7:54 PM CST reply actions  

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

At 5’9’’ 185lbs. I am a better guard than Proctor. I hate this move!!

by eightball on Feb 26, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Dallas Cowboys blog for the SB Nation network. We talk Cowboys 24/7/365. Join the discussion but follow the community guidelines.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Small
Garrett the next Jimmy Johnson...child please!
Small
My Cowboys 2012 Draft Strategy
97946_giants_cowboys__football_large_small
Draft Talk: The Polarizing Quinton Coples
222724_1014143404454_1551120017_30067740_5911_n_small
Draft/ Free Agency: A Shot At Redemption
97946_giants_cowboys__football_large_small
Draft Talk: Mark Barron

Recent FanPosts

Small
Hail Mary or a 5 Year Plan?
Massage_home_small
Forward Thinking Vol IV - The Offseason
Small
If the glorious leader were a visionary instead of a consensus taker
Small
Is Mario Williams on the Cowboys' radar?
Small
Making the case for Mark Barron
Fountain_small
The Stanford Routt Situation
Small
Cowboy17's Draft Plan
Zombie_cap3_small
Two Options for how to fill the Cowboys roster holes
Btb_icon_small
First Round Targets

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Editor

Head_shot1_small Dave Halprin

Lead Writer

Captain_small One.Cool.Customer

Profile_small Brandon Worley

Ollogo3_copy_small KD Drummond

Contributing Writers

Hotdoglu_small Aaron Novinger

Emmittintro_small rabblerousr

Kegbearer_small Kegbearer

Dr_fate_small Tom Ryle

Moderators

Ns_08bstockb-thumb-200x185_small scottmaui