It's Thursday. The Cowboys Free Agent Pool Has Dropped Another Foot
by Rafael Vela on Feb 26, 2009 10:57 AM CST
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PrintThe starting gun for free agency is fast approaching, and the Cowboys options continue to diminish.
-- At safety, SS prospect Gibril Wilson has signed a five-year deal with the Miami Dolphins. The terms are undisclosed, but five years means Wilson likely got a fair amount, just one year after he pocketed a $16 million signing bonus from Oakland. Wilson is a good but not great safety, and getting two meaty bonuses in two years should prompt Wilson to send his agent on a posh vacation.
Wilson's signing means there are no good young safety prospects available. (He is 27.) Miami's Yeremiah Bell, whom Wilson has likely displaced, turned 30 recently, and Philly's Brian Dawkins is 35.
Dawkins might be had for a decent short-term deal, though he told reporters that his "big money days are probably over." Jerry Jones might be contemplating a move for him, given that he's still productive, but I think it would take a fat short-term deal to get Dawkins to relocate.
-- In Washington, the Redskins have apparently targeted Tennessee DL Albert Haynesworth, and have Chris Canty as a fallback option, according to the Washington Post.
-- In Baltimore, Ray Lewis continues to negotiate with Baltimore, though reports claim the team has made more progress with fellow ILB Bart Scott. We'll know soon enough.
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Raf
do you think that JJ passed up on Gibril or just overlooked how fast he would go?
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Great news everyone, I just ate chinese food and guess what my fotune IS...
“Your sports team will be very successful this year.”
Thank God cause I needed a reason to hope with all this doom and gloom recently. Its in the bag boys, no reason to worry at all.
You forgot to add the phrase "in bed" to the end
But still, I’m happy for them.
Feb. 18-24 -- NFL Scouting Combine
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 26, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
Good Work, Jerry
The perfect option came right into our hands. An option to get Roy Williams out of this town and an excellent safety in his place. What the Idiot Owner has been doing since the Raiders released Wilson is beyond me, maybe throwing a huge party for himself (attended only by himself) to celebrate 20 years of incompetence, egotism, and disgrace to the once-proud Cowboys star.
Now we get to look forward to another year of Roy not covering, missing tackles, and complaining it’s the 3-4’s fault.
Again, sorry for being so negative, but I expect absolutely nothing from this team until the Idiot Owner steps down from his GM position. My heart was crushed last year and I won’t be that stupid and optimistic again.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Feb 26, 2009 11:01 AM CST reply actions
Wison is not the end all be all. Would he have been better than thong, for sure, but woulkd he be worth the money?
not if we want to sign Ware and a Qb and a ilb and maybe a big Tackle. Gary enjoy the pain you seem to be embracing it. You might want to jump ship to the Browns or Raiders or something?!
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Depends what the terms were...
I’m sure Jerry was at least monitoring the Gibril situation. He’s not stupid and it’s an area of critical need. For all we know, he made an offer, or maybe the Fins just flat out overpaid for him. If they got him on the cheap… then I’ll be pissed.
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Where did you hear that?
Raf’s post said he pocketed 16 mil in a signing bonus from the Raiders last year. Is that what you’re talking about or did you hear about the terms of his new contract?
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
5 yr deal, 8 mil guranteed, 16 mil over 3 years, 25 over 5 yrs
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
That's cheaper than what Hamlin cost...
He was 37.5 mil over 6 years. 9 mil signing bonus. 15mil guaranteed. Wilson’s deal wasn’t crazy money.
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
yes but wilson's 1st deal affect hamlin's
6 yrs 39 mil, 16 mil guranteed. That deal affected the safety FA market and dallas did have the option to just keep the franchise tag on hamlin and wait it out for this past year but that is the past.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Okay, Wilson's 1st deal helped shape the safety market, but...
what does that have to do with the deal he just inked. My only point is that the Fins didn’t shell out F U money for him. We could have afforded those terms, especially if we released Roy…
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
I agree, but who knows what actions JJ took or did not take for Wilson.
I thought you were referencing that in regards to Hamlin’s deal, sorry that I misread what you posted.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
If it weren't for that dang gag order...
maybe we’d know if Jerry made a play for him :)
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
cowboy is right...Wilson's original deal forced us to overpay for Hamlin...
Miami paid Wilson what I figured Hamlin should have gotten just 8 months ago.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
That's a valid point, but...
its water under the bridge. We need a safety. Gilbril Wilson was there, and no one thought he would be. There was a good bit on pining from alot of people on these threads to ink him. He didn’t cost the Fins an outrageous sum. That the Raiders overpaid for him a year earlier is irrelevant.
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
I totally agree..Wilson was the ideal SS for us to sign...best one available ...period...
also the most expensive one available…a good contract no doubt…but I’m not going to cry or berate our Owner for not signing him…I guarantee he was discussed, evaluated, and passed judgement on as to what his worth should be, and if we’re willing to spend that amount. It’s pretty obvious Jerry didn’t want to commit over 12 million to our Safety tandem, when there are several lower priced FA’s and rookies availble to us.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
I’m sure the Valley Ranch brain trust monitored the situation closely.
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Wilson received 8 mil from the Raiders last year
and just pocketed another 8 mil from the Dolphins. That’s unbelievable for a safety that’s average, at best and who is not a impact player. When the Giants let him walk they never thought he would sniff that kind of doe from a team..Leave it to crazy Al..
If only I had talent...
16 mil in 2 years not counting base pay…that would be nice
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 27, 2009 1:51 AM CST up reply actions
The NFL....
Is a competitive league Gary.
I wished that they had signed Wilson too, but the fact that they didn’t I don’t think is an inclination of idiot owner syndrome.
There were other players thats needed safetys as well, they didn’t get him.
Now Dallas drafts a safety and hope for the best.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 26, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
then expect nothing from this team for a very long time
Jones seems to be in good health to me.
In Romo we Trust
20 years of incompetence?
Are we counting the three Super Bowl championship years as incompetent? Just trying to figure out what our standards are here. Is it only deemed a successful year if we win the Super Bowl AND go undefeated?
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
LOL...i guess it's the what have you done for me lately league...
But you gotta admit, expectations do run pretty damn high in this town…
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Cowboys won...
playoff games and superbowls with Jimmy Johnsons players. If this weren’t true then Jerry should have won at least 1 playoff game since 95’.
Whoa...
We haven’t won a playoff game since 96’..not ’95
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 27, 2009 1:52 AM CST up reply actions
do you think roy misses either of those tackles in the ravens game?
I don’t.
Don’t get me wrong i want roy out of here but only if we have someone better to take his place.
What the French?! Toast!
too bad he was broken on the side lines. and too bad this will be his last day stinkin up the joint . good riddeence thong.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
how can we get rid of him tho
i think we should keep him until we get someone better
What the French?! Toast!
its over he is gone . He is /was horrible and he's a distraction and one of the top five highest payed players on the roster. this is a no brainer. even a 4th round rookie can't possibly be worse.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Vincent Fuller at S
I posted this in the last thread, but what would you think about Vincent Fuller as an option at S? The Titans use hims as a nickel back, but his play has likely earned him a shot to start for another team unless the Titans re-sign him. He is only 26 I believe.
good call Blammo...he's kinda what we should be looking at...not neccessarily as a sure fire starter, but a upgrade at S depth..
He was selected in the 4th round, one spot ahead of MBIII….He’s got CB/FS experience all throughout college career, and i’m sure he’s a better player than Watkins and Brown at FS…not sure how good he is in run support…but he’s looks like he can help here at the right price..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Excellent
These are the type of players I’m looking to hear about. Not big names with big egos and big contracts.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Feb 26, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Safety
I think at this point our best option is to keep Roy, draft a safety, and cross our fingers every time opposing QB’s drop back.
I know its been said but moving Henry and Hamlin would Improve our coverage by leaps and bounds and hurt our run defense. I still think this may be the right answer for what is available.
If we do move the safety and corner then getting a monster nose tackle is going to be very important in my opinion. Our linebackers are going to have to make the tackles and Ratliff gives up to much space to help the linebackers.
Say no to Roy
There are a lot of safeties out there. It’s really not a hard position to fill — most teams don’t get exploited at the position as much as the Cowboys. I think they can find a solid vet in free agency, then draft a backup to groom. There’s no need to put Roy back into the equation — his demise is what put Dallas in this mess to begin withh.
couldn't agree more The thong has gotta go... hopefully this is his last day fouling the Star.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
That's not...
Entirely accurate.
There are alot of teams that are exploited at safety, they just don’t have a safety that was drafted in the top 10.
But you’re right, Roy needs to go. He doesn’t do one single thing very well anymore.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 26, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not defending Roy but I don't think you can blame
everything on Roy. With the exception of last year, our corners were pretty weak too.
This is the thing about Roy,
and I’ll say it again.
If he played the run really great then it would be different, but he doesn’t do anything above average anymore.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 26, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
That is true.
I’m not trying to give him a pass but I don’t think that you can blame all the defensive problems on Roy. I guess a part of me still wants him to succeed like his first couple of years. I know it probably won’t happen. I still think that it’s strange that his decline coincides with Parcells coming in. It’s almost like somebody/something got into his head. I know, I’m grasping.
If Roy will restructure his deal like he claims he will
something more commensurate to his play, then he might be worth keeping short term. I have serious doubts about him though even if he agrees to a pay cut. Whatever got into his head, I don’t imagine two broken arms will help him out of it. And his willingness to take a pay cut is likely indicative of his deteriorating confidence.
If you are beating a dead horse, you might be a Cowboys fan.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...
No thanks...
Here’s hoping Jerry can address the safety issue so we can all move on…
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Will Demps
got cut by the Texans, he was a pro bowler in 07, what’s the deal with him?
He wasn't great, he was widely a suprise pick
he had a good year that year; I don’t know what got him to the probowl though, and I think he himself was suprised.
by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
yeah but we know what got him in the Probowl those years
big hits and name recognition
by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Well name recognition anyway.
All I’m saying is like the Combine, you can’t fully judge a player just because he is there.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
Yeah and the texans are not a well recognized team so he may have been a different case
than the thong.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Anyone remember Brock Marion's 40 time?
when was the last time Dallas had such an athlete at safety he could return kicks?
by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
I don't remember Marion being all that fast...
in fact, I seem to remember that his lack of top end speed being one of the knocks on him. But he was very good overall athlete, and had first-rate instincts.
Canty's a Target
I was in D.C. yesterday on travel and listening to the local sports talk. Some guy named Steve Sabin. They couldn’t stop talking about Canty and how their front office sources confirmed that he is a prime FA target for the Redskins.
That's what the post article seems to suggest
if they can’t sign Stompworth
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
+1
I posted on another one that Schefter is saying that Williams very well could be cut. Also, he said that Sean Jones (Cle) could be a good “sleeper” safety. Jermaine Phillips of of Bucs as well.
Sean Jones can't cover either...possibly worse than Roy...
from what i read..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
I sure hope the Ravens sign Lewis....
We don’t need to be spending 25+ mil on a 34 yr. old LB on the down slide of his career. The money could be better spent elsewhere. I’m even for Zach being here another year if that means Lewis isn’t pursued by us. I don’t think people realize how bad of a sign this will be….Say NO to Ray Lewis..
+1
My sentiments exactly
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Feb 26, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Ummmm
Who is talking about Canty being retained?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 26, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Raf here is some news
Abram Elam was given the lowest tender by the jets
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2009/02/in-the-long-run-cutting-coles.html
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
How did they tender him? I thought we had him
and Tender rights only exist for players on their first team
by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
No he has been with the jets for at least 1-2 years, but the tender will require no compensation
if he signs with another team; I know of a number of people here who would like to have him back.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
on this board, or what?
I guess I’d like him back, Jet fans actually like him as a player
by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
On this blog, I remember a few guys who lament letting him go, the same
way people lament letting moore go to the panthers.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Christmas morning...
Why do I get the feeling like I’m going to wake up tomorrow morning with no new toy to play with?
because we don't have a first rd pick
and Jerry doesn’t want to over spend in FA this year like he does every year.
In Romo we Trust
All these years of getting shiny new baubles...
has given me unrealistic expectations. I want Santa to bring Bart Scott with a bow.
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“Tennessee will never let Haynesworth go” Hilarious. I told you guys he would be a free agent. Looks like you guys have to eat some crow.
Were you the one who wanted to sign him to play 3-4 DE for us?
Giving a 3-4 DE upwards of $30MM in guaranteed money?
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I'd pay him that to play NT
and slide Rat to DE. He’s one NT i’d do that for
by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
Dude... if you're going to call someone out...do it.
Don’t take aim at the whole community
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
So someone should eat crow...
because they were wrong?
I’m sure you’re NEVER wrong.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Well excuse me Quincy,
I just figured out how to work one of these here computers. I’m so old it takes me a little time to figure it out. Sheesh.
I thouight you were using
a slow as Christmas laptop? Did you decide to upgrade? And, don’t forget to clean all the white out off the screen when you are done.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
+1....
my laptop’s working fine today. I guess my network was all excited about FA-lol
Don't let it overheat
and burn your nethers.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
BTW, we need to teach our boy Crabtree....
not to talk with the stinking media
I never though Tennesse would let him go
it’s true. I think he’s essential to them going 12 and whatever this year. Ball control offense, nasty D. Kerry Collins QBing them made them less turn over prone, and consequentially, less time on the field.
by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
Titans are blowing it
They have plenty of cap space and are being stupid by not signing their best player. They probably won’t sign a significant WR or use an early draft pick on one either. Sometimes the “smart” teams outsmart themselves. They should have locked Haynesworth down to a long term deal before last season.
At least as Cowboy’s fans we don’t have to worry about JJ being cheap. Of course we have lots of other worries with JJ that ther teams don’t.
Curse of Bud Adams
the curse is his maddening and inconsistent behavior as an owner
by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
One other thing though....
Haynesworth played great the past 2 years. Will he stay at that level or go back to his other level? That’s the question that some people are debating. Titans may be smarting than people are giving them credit for. Ex: when they let PacMan go they already had Finnigan in their back pocket.
Probably right. Titans know
more about Hayneworth than anyone. Of course they did draft a crazy qb, didn’t anyone check with the mental ward first?
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
+1......
Not saying that I necessarily like Bud Adams but Fisher is an excellent Def. coach. Logic would tell me, that you’d think that Det. would be trying to get him since their D Coach is now hc? Also, there are a few character issues with him. I don’t think that the Titans are dumb. Not trying to take anything away from him but to pay out that kind of money you better be reaaaaaalllllly sure.
One thing that I find very interesting on these blogs as a side note.....
You can kind of tell what age group some of these bloggers are by their responses. Just an observation-some mature statements some very immature statements. Before anybody gets upset this is not aimed at anybody in particular.
I bet you're very wrong
I’ve known lots of people and age and maturity don’t have too mcuh to do with each other, in my view
by AustonianAggie on Feb 26, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
+1
compared to some of these guys, I think I’m ready for my walker-lol
Now, that's funny-hahahaha
Man, people are too serious around here
Seriously?
Whooopity doo.
It’s not like you went out on a colossal limb.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Yeah
But he did get a lot of grief for his opinion.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Feb 26, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
Crow it is
Props to you.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Feb 26, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
thank you
that is all I ask for: recognition from a random anonymous poster about the most inconsequential subject.
If only everyone were satisfied with that.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
New Mock - updated 2/25
2. Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
3. David Bruton, S, Notre Dame
4. Dannell Ellerbe, ILB, Georgia
4. Tyronne Green, OG, Auburn
5. Alex Boone, OT, Ohio State
5. Kenny McKinley, WR, South Carolina
6. Ellis Lankster, CB, West Virginia
7. Curtis Taylor, FS, LSU
7. Maurice Evans,OLB, Penn State
I'll pass on Bruton, but...
I would be thrilled to get Maurice Evans so late in the draft. I don’t care what some mockers are predicting, I don’t think he’ll last anywhere near this long.
by Boundforbeach on Feb 26, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
I like Boone in the 5th
It’s funny that he was a 1st round pick 4 months ago.
HATERADE: Two scoops of Eric Allen, add water and stir.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 26, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
+1
He wouldn’t be bad as a fifth rounder. His problem is that he fits as a right tackle and not a left and by my estimation our backup right tackle was James Marten, who is now on the raiders.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 26, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
How did Boone do against UT?
I don’t remember Orakpo making any plays that game.
Boone sucks....
not even on my board…he’s been black flagged..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
lol...tyler mock draft.....take 37
geez…a new one every day…you should make a list of each one…maybe one might be close…but it seems your mocks get worse each time….weird…..i liked your mock about 5 mocks ago…..you got it on a flash drive ??
btw…the only pick i like is Hood in the 2nd round….the rest are very questionable…grade C-
back to the drawing board for you sir………
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with Rnumba
On this one…Hood is good for our DE and Boone is alright but no one else I would think about…Ellerbe is too small for base defense, Bruton was a reach. Ill go C
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 27, 2009 1:55 AM CST up reply actions
Ray Lewis... Matt Mosely says:
“A Cowboys source told me Thursday morning that the team doesn’t have a strong interest in Lewis. Of course, that could change a few minutes after midnight. But as of this minute, I don’t think the Cowboys will make a strong play for Lewis.”
Unless this is a smoke screen, so much for the gag order…
All a smoke screen.
Jerry never tips his hand when it comes to acquisitions whether its through free agency or a trade.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 26, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
Why go after RayRay
when you have Bobby Carpenter?
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
Lol...
Am I the only one that thinks Carpenter will play decent if he gets the chance?
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 26, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
There's a reason he didn't start at OLB, ILB, special teams, didn't travel.
I hope Carp can make it work, but last year the Boys started an old slow undersized LB with a softened skull.
nope nicholas...you always will have Boyzfan94 to support you on that pipe dream..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 26, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
You got it.....
Carpenter will be the starter or at least the 3rd down ILB this season. How can anyone argue that if we lose both Zach and Burnett. Carpenter will at least back up Lewis…..(I sure hope not) Bart Scott or another not indentifed yet. And, no it won’t be a rookie starting at ILB this season…forget it….
You call just say Nick..
Its easier that way…and nicholas is too formal..don’t remember why I even put my full name for it…anyways Carp has been backing up someone his whole time here…Ayodele was solid, Burnett is a good nickel guy and Thomas was one of the best.. He hasn’t had a shot yet… and he did travel and was on ST all year… And he has switched positions every training camp, everyone knows the OLB and ILB are very different but also the Mike and Mo spots for the ILBs are very different as well
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 27, 2009 1:59 AM CST up reply actions
I'll be more than just happy if Carpenter came in this camp and won over the starting ILB spot...
That is what we drafted him for……..If he’s ever going to do anything in this league…It’s time to do it now…….I’m going to be rooting him on…but i’m not going to be holding my breath..
That's what I'm talking about numba1..........your coming around..LMAO!
BTW, I still wanted Bart Scott……lol
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