While You Were Sleeping: Free Agents Busy in the Wee Hours
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 27, 2009 7:00 AM CST
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Here we are at last. The free agent signing period has officially begun. It is 5:44 AM (CST) and I am up scouring the internet for free agency news and rumors. You should all consider yourselves fortunate to know a loser like me. Here are a few of the signings and rumblings you may have missed while you were sleeping.
Redskins at it again - As usual, Daniel Snyder was coiled back in the chute like rodeo bull, waiting for that gate to drop at midnight. About a half hour into the free agent signing period, the Redskins re-signed DeAngelo Hall to a six-year pact worth a maximum value of $55 million ($23 million guaranteed). This is not Nmamdi Asomugha money, but that's a pretty healthy chunk of change for a second-tier corner. Have fun with that Daniel.
The Redskins have also reportedly backed out of the Albert Haynesworth sweepstakes, and may be more intently focused on signing former Cowboy (can I just call him that now?) Chris Canty. The Redskins were in contact with Canty minutes after free agency officially begun, and have reportedly now set up a visit. The Redskins do however have a little more competition for Canty's services, as the Titans, Seahawks, and 49ers have all thrown their names in the hat as well.
The Redskins are also in negotiations with Buffalo Bills guard Derrick Dockery, whom they whiffed on before the 2007 season.
Ray Ray to Denver? - Ray Lewis walked away from a last-minute 3-year $25 million offer from the Ravens. The Baltimore Sun believes that Denver may be a more realistic landing spot for the linebacker than either the Cowboys or Jets. The Sun connects a set of dots that I had not thought much about. Ray Lewis did enjoy some of his best years under the command of former Ravens defensive coordinator Mike Nolan, who is now running the defense in Denver.
In other news out of Baltimore, Sports Illustrated's Peter King believes that the New York Jets have linebacker Bart Scott virtually in the bag. It will be interesting to see if the Ravens intensify efforts to retain Ray Lewis if Scott signs elsewhere.
Other free agency tidbits:
- The Giants are reportedly ready to throw about $5 million a year at Atlanta linebacker Michael Boley. Boley is a heck of an underrated player and could thrive in a defense that generates so much pressure with it's front four.
- The Dolphins are hosting Dallas reserve guard Joe Berger. It always makes me queasy when Bill Parcells starts rummaging through the bottom of our roster. I sure hope we didn't tender the wrong backup lineman.
- The Eagles have been listed among teams interested in the services of Bengals wideout T.J. Houshmandzadeh...Yipeee! They are also expected to make an attempt to sign Bengals offensive tackle Stacy Andrews.
Not a lot of other news that affects the Cowboys, or the NFC East at this point. We are however only about seven hours into this thing. I wouldn't look for the Cowboys to be very active for at least a few days, maybe a week. Look for Jerry Jones and company to jump on a few second-tier, or role player types after the prices come down. Let the games begin!
UPDATE: Albert Haynesworth has just signed a 7-year/$100 million deal with Washington.
UPDATE II: Bart Scott has signed a long-term deal with the Jets. Details to come.
Comment: We have an early loser. The Ravens have lost Scott and are likely to lose C Jason Brown to the Rams. Ray Lewis is also out on the prowl, so this could be a black day for Baltimore. -- rafael
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nice work
Your dedication is admirable.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
by dave33 on Feb 27, 2009 7:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Redskins "backed out"???
It’s all over the news that Stompworth signed a 100+ mil contract with the skins. Are you hearing differently?
by Boundforbeach on Feb 27, 2009 7:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
News broke after I posted
HATERADE: Two scoops of Eric Allen, add water and stir.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 27, 2009 7:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
How in the heck are they able to come up with this kind of money under the salary cap?
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 7:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha...
Kind of hard to post anything this morning with the news changing every 10 minutes.
by Boundforbeach on Feb 27, 2009 7:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Updates...
I don’t know if anyone’s found a really good site, but (www.rotoworld.com) is posting NFL signing updates every few minutes.
I wish we would do something
by Boundforbeach on Feb 27, 2009 7:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I love that site
they are on top of everything
HATERADE: Two scoops of Eric Allen, add water and stir.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Feb 27, 2009 7:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I’ve been a big endoser for that site for years. 90% of the time they get something up before anyone else, and most of the time their writers look at things from a common sense point of view.
I think they were the only site all year to talk about how Owens hadn’t lost a step and was still averaging good YPC.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 7:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good one
Schefter’s blog is another.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
by Conjunction on Feb 27, 2009 8:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so glad Jerry isn't caught up in this
over spending frenzy right now. I’m sure they’ll be some bargains that can be had after a week or so.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 7:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's something rare we agree on.
This is crazy time in my opinion.
by StillHateTheGiants on Feb 27, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shame about Boley
I really liked that guy.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
by Conjunction on Feb 27, 2009 8:15 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Does this
Haynesworth signing remind anyone else of the Stubblefield signing back in ‘97? I don’t believe Haynesworth’s play will diminish like Stubblefield’s did, but the Redskins struck out once before on this type of guy.
Here’s hoping they do again.
by Johnny Cage on Feb 27, 2009 8:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Matchups
Can Gurode handle him? I don’t think Haynesworth is going to throw Andre around. Gurode was getting the better of him in the stomp game.
by Rafael Vela on Feb 27, 2009 8:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
I thought Gurode did a great job against him in the stomp game, I mean Haynesworth wouldn’t have stomped on his face if he wasn’t get beat by him.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haynesworth Twice a Year
Gurode handled him pretty well in that one game. I wouldn’t extrapolate from that that Haynesworth won’t create big problems for us. Haynesworth has only gotten better since that game and Gurode seemed to regress a little last season. Haynesworth is a beast and I wish he had stayed in the AFC.
by Blammo on Feb 27, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That one game the Titans D was on the field the whole game
so Hayensworth was pretty tired; hopefully that will be the trend. Part of what makes Gurode an elite center in the NFL is that Gurode can handle guys like Hayensworth one on one – not consistently but at least for Dallas, Hayensworth is not guaranteed to get two o-linemen in a match up
by AustonianAggie on Feb 27, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The odds are against this working out well for the Skins
I can’t think of 1 team that made these kinds of signing being pushed over the top. Especially long term. He’s a great player and I can’t say exactly how it will blow up but I know it will. Maybe he’ll crash and burn, maybe it’s other players they won’t be able to keep/sign, I just know it will go bad. I’ll love every minute of it.
by StillHateTheGiants on Feb 27, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the one I can't figure out
is why they gave D’angelo Hall so much.
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Snyder
Easy answer.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we could all use a little Landry
Even though his serious head injuries, i would try to get ravens safety Dawan Landry, and go after Ray Ray, three good years from him, and id be happy…
While most are in love with tunas “planet theory”, im in love with the “patriot theory” get very good players that have slightly aged but can still produce.. ray fits the bill to me.. the only wuestionm now however is price.
by missingthe90s on Feb 27, 2009 8:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can Gurode handle him?
I’m wondering about that too. Since the stomp game, Haynesworth has been very good (if not great). Gurode, however, had a terrible year last year. I know he was a pro bowler but IMO, he shouldn’t have made it.
by troysboys on Feb 27, 2009 8:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Haynesworth CAN be a great plater
Haynesworth CAN be a great plater….but he lacks consistancy… he has a poor attitude, and work ethic. I have seen him destroy Olines in games before, but on the other hand, I have seen rookies man handle him. To me, it seems like he only shows up to games when he wants to.
Nfl.com said that the redskins only had 8.1million of cap space left…it will be interesting to see how they structured/restructured all these contracts to make them work after the free agency they have had so far in the past 24 hours
by VTcowboys16 on Feb 27, 2009 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
.....
He had an average year, I wouldn’t go and say he had a “terrible” year.
Probowl? Maybe, maybe not, but him and Flozell both seemed like they were having to pull double duty to make up for the horribleness that is Cory Proctor.
But Gurode wasn’t horrible.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yall don't see what makes Gurode a great center
He’s easily the most powerful center in the NFL – still Dallas had the advantage in the Titans game, of owning the time of possession
by AustonianAggie on Feb 27, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Taylor goes to the Pats...signs a 6mm one year deal..
the rich get richer
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 27, 2009 9:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bart Scott to the Jets...Apparently Ray not back to Ravens according to Schefter.
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just saw that...
Ray Ray is alleged to have said his career in Baltimore is over. But where is he going? And does Jerry even have any interest?
by Boundforbeach on Feb 27, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just heard Schefter on Sirius....
he didn’t know where he might end up, but from a close source to Ray “it pretty much over between Ray and the Ravens.” The Ravens got hit pretty hard. First Bart Scott,Ray Lewis, their center,and probably Leonhard.
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see...
Ray might just be being emotional.
I don’t know how many of you have heard him on full length radio interviews, but Ray Lewis is half a nutcase.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably all those jarring hits have taken a toll on his brain....lol
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brain must have been murdered.
What….too soon?
PLAYOFFS?!
by SSreporters on Feb 27, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, but it is over
some heads.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Feb 27, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not over my head...
But the murder jokes are just kind of… I dunno corny.
I mean it’s been almost 10 years now.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Has the dead guy come back to life?
What’s the statute of limitations on murder jokes?
by StillHateTheGiants on Feb 27, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
Its not limited, just played out.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks....looks like the Ravens will now push hard for Lewis.....I'm not complaining either..
Redskins spent 150 mil in one day….how the heck they do it I don’t know. Canty will be somewhere else now it appears.
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ravens have a lot of talented young players still
If Ray Lewis doesn’t end up in Dallas, I’d like to see him finish his career as a Raven though
by AustonianAggie on Feb 27, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just think, with Scott a Jet means Lewis has a better chance of staying in Baltimore.....which also means
Were one step closer to seeing Carpenter starting at ILB…..lol
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and having a horrible defense
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just think, with Scott a Jet means Lewis has a better chance of staying in Baltimore.....which also means
Were one step closer to seeing Carpenter starting at ILB…..lol
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just think, with Scott a Jet means Lewis has a better chance of staying in Baltimore.....which also means
Were one step closer to seeing Carpenter starting at ILB…..lol
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You ok?
Is your real name Sybil?
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Feb 27, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dont be a hater....
BTW.. Winslow to the Bucs… just in..
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
undisclosed draft picks sent to the Brown....ESPN reporting
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry,
I was trying to be funny. I guess I missed my audience.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Feb 27, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been out so I just saw comment....
I thought it was funny
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we now know why the Boys tendered Procter don't we?
since Miami is bringing in Berger
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great write up
Skins’ definitely are overpaying for Deangelo. Lets just hope our boy Romo doesn’t throw anymore passes directly to him.
by witten82 on Feb 27, 2009 9:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys, apparently Chris Canty will be meeting with the Seahawks on Monday
Got any thoughts on Canty’s play recently?
PLAYOFFS?!
by SSreporters on Feb 27, 2009 9:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
he's not a 4-3 DE, can't ruch the passer
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he'd be more likely to take Rocky Bernard's place as a DT who gets a decent push
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Feb 27, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Would Bernard be big enough for NT in a 3-4?
I heard he won’t be that expensive. He is meeting with the Giants though
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not positive, but I think he was more of an undersized quick DT, like a 290 lb guy
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Feb 27, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cole FA from GB would be good also.....
330 Lbs. He’s a big boy.
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really. If we had to do it based on a contract year, he really sucked.
Many times he would just get eaten up at the line and someone like Romo could do jumping jacks before he throws the ball.
Two seasons ago though he was quite good.
PLAYOFFS?!
by SSreporters on Feb 27, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bernard's slowed down of late
though he plays a position that normally lasts pretty long… He’s more like Tommy Harris, not that good, but better than Tank Johnson
by AustonianAggie on Feb 27, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well then forget him.
He’s not that old though
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Canty will play better in a 4-3
He’s a much better rusher inside than he ever was as a 3-4 DE.
by Rafael Vela on Feb 27, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the FA market on player of intrest to us is thining out
what is left that can help us?
by Becho on Feb 27, 2009 9:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
He says 7 hours and 37 minutes after the FA period begins
LOL, let the craziness subside
by StillHateTheGiants on Feb 27, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Welp, here's one silver lining I've found...
Per Rotoworld (nice link, BoundforBeach), the Eagles are losing Correll Buckhalter and L.J. Smith…but T.J. Housh wants to play with McNabb.
by AikmanNailedMySis on Feb 27, 2009 9:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think losing LJ is addition by subtraction
The Eagles blog is now reporting TJ is talking with Seattle.
We have some players you can take off our hands, want some suggestions? ;-)
PLAYOFFS?!
by SSreporters on Feb 27, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It just said on the Comcast Network that TJ is about 70% to resign with Cinci
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Feb 27, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hanging on the 30%......don't dash my dreams!
PLAYOFFS?!
by SSreporters on Feb 27, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey I'm all for it.
I don’t care if its Seattle or Cinci. Keep him from Philly.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Feb 27, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TJ is not a #1 Wr...More like a possession receiver now.
I think he is 31 also….
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disgaree, TJ was the #1 WR for Cincy, not Ocho
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TJ is a big possession WR with average speed....was never a burner..
Ocho is the #1 Wr on that team…
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you don't have to run a 4.3 to be a #1 receiver
the numbers prove you wrong over the last 3 years
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with that
But with that said, he still rarely gets a double team, and playing next to Chad has it’s benefits.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can make the arugement
That TJ puts up his numbers because he doesn’t have to see double teams.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Point is, Chad has been and still is the #1 Wr on that team.....
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Terry is right.Tj was sixth in catches in the whole league. He was their no.1 Ocho may notr even have been their no.2.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Feb 27, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
CJ has been there #1 for years...a blind man can see it..
TJ is good, but CJ made him what he is…..Without a threat on the otherside TJ will be nothing but a average WR…
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you must be blind then he was third in receptions on the team last year.TJ would be the best reciever the iggles have had since TO. I pray we dont have to see him twice a year.
85 was their no 1 the year before last and the prior two for sure but by the end of the year teams were definitely not doubling him. He precipitously fell off last year,how many times does a receiver come back after melting down that bad. He’s done. Housch is not a burner but he is a big strong receiver with good hands and crisp routes. The eagles have not had anyone catching passes since TO and we still havent been able to stop them. This would be very bad for us if it happened.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Feb 27, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry
The guy hasn’t played against a double team all of last year, he has no speed, he doesn’t scare me as a one.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
You’re wrong, he did play against double teams last year frequently, and he isn’t like running a 4.8 out there. Teams were double teaming the crap out of him when it was obvious that Chad Johnson couldn’t do anything AND with the QB play he was the best option.
He’s gotten a 40+ TD every year since 2004 , so he must have some speed.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chad
Got doubled A LOT last year, more then people think, if you think TJ is the answer is Philly, more power to you, he doesn’t scare me. Is that saying he isn’t a good WR, no, I just don’t think he’s the answer in Philly. New York, he would scare me a lot more.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's not the answer...
To anyone.
But what he is, is a dependable WR that they haven’t had.
One who doesn’t drop passes and runs crisp routes.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
Agree, but your going to pay him first receiver money if your Philly?
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure.
He’s a very good WR.
I don’t give him Larry Fitgerald money, but he should get Roy Williams money.
He’s a damned good wr.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Had 2 100 yard games
and 4 touchdowns last year, but did finish with almost 1000 yards, I see what your saying. I’m just not all impressed by him, probably just my thing lol
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
A former coach of a divisional rival says, “Houshmandzadeh is a great slot receiver, but he benefits from having Johnson on the outside. Without Johnson commanding double teams, T.J. wouldn’t be able to feast off single coverage from the slot.”
You believe what you want, I believe he’s nothing more then a 2, a very good wide receiver but one who is the main target doesn’t scare me.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok listen....
It isn’t about just him, but if you have him on say Philly, it creates more mismatches when they go to 3 WR sets.
Kevin Curtis isn’t a great #1 or #2, but is an AWESOME #3 WR.
He doesn’t scare you, but he scares you more then Curtis or Jackson right?
He does me at least.
He brings a dimension that Philly doesn’t have.
The money they pay him is irrelevant, I’m against anything that would make another team more talented.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But that is what TJ is
A GREAT slot, so now you have a bunch of slot guys? People say TJ is made for the slot similar to Wes Welker but so is Kevin Curtis, so where does it give? Would it improve the Eagles probably, and does it help Jackson yes, but beyond that, lining TJ up on the outside he isn’t half as scary as he is from the slot.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's an...
above average receiver dude.
He doesn’t have elite speed but he’s got great hands and he uses his body to create seperation.
He catches the ball even when he’s covered well, and consistently gets first downs.
He isn’t Alvin Harper and he’s a young 31. He’s a dependable receiver.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
desean Jackson is their deep threat. Curtis and housh run the intermediate/crossing routes. routes .
Do you double desean? do you let Tj go single coverage ? Do we double westbrook? Yes this would be a huge problem. If we move Henry to safety we have three corners,two of them second year players. We know jenkins tackles like a matador. This could be bad very bad. You can think 85 was the man in cinnci but that ship has sailed the second half of the season he wasn’t even an every down player. I will say this again he was the sixth leading reciever in the league last year ,on the bungles ,with a qb that only played well against us and was out half the season. Don’t let the facts interfere with your reality i guess.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Feb 27, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Double Westbrook
If Housh and Curtis are running five yarders over the middle that doesn’t hurt you, don’t allow the deep ball.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I’d rather not have to play against him two times a year.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But more then likely...
I think he’ll sign with Seattle.
I think he would fit in perfectly there plus he’s from California.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i gotcha
Wanna read something interesting though.
Wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh caused quite a stir during an appearance on ESPN early Friday morning. Although the Minnesota Vikings were not initially thought to be a likely destination for the veteran, Housh remarked on how nice it would be to play for a team against whom opposing defenses could not focus on him, saying, “I’m looking at teams I think have good coaches and good offensive lines and good running games. I have no idea if those teams are interested in me. If I can play with Adrian Peterson, can you imagine what I would do getting one-on-one coverage with Adrian Peterson? I am going to win 98.6 percent of the time with one-on-one coverage with him in the backfield.”
Thank god they have NO QB.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1....He would have Desean and Curtis in Philly though..and Westbrook...
that is the best spot for him….maybe McFlabb is lobbying for him..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 27, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
please....TJ is a joke...Boyz is right...He is not a game changer, a deep threat, or playmaker..
the dude averages 10 yards a catch….heck, that’s not even good for a TE…He’s way overrated…I don’t care where he goes..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 27, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
his numbers prove otherwise
we sure as hell couldn’t cover him this year.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TJ is a joke?
He’s been in the top ten in receptions for the last three years.
He’s not a burner, but he moves the chains.
He might not be a true #1 WR, but a joke he isn’t.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its pointless to argue this point. the numbers clearly state the truth. and he would make the eagles much much more dangerous ,period.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Feb 27, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dosn't matter the Eagles came out today and said they have no interest in TJ....
His asking priced proved to be too much
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 28, 2009 12:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe not addition by subtraction
but his loss won’t be felt. Celek proved to be a reliable player last year.
by foyesboys on Feb 27, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Offseason champs title goes to the deadskins
To quote a few deadskin fans:
“Bruce Smith wears his Off-Season Champions Ring almost as proudly as his four AFC Champions rings.”
“Albert "Stubblefield 2.0″ Haynesworth”
"WE HAVE THE BEST D-TACKLE IN THE GAME AND WE’RE GOING TO THE F$&#$%*’ SUPER BOWL, WOOOOOOOOO! WHO’S WITH ME?
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO ONE CAN F*#K WITH US ON SUNDEE, ESPECIALLY DURING THE OFF-SEASON!"
I think I have seen this movie before.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Feb 27, 2009 9:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
LJ smith stinks
Eagles are not dumb…Celek is a better te anyway..I am sure they will draft another…I would not mind seeing leonard comming to dallas but i doubt it..Does not look like dallas will be doing anything in FA…
by canty99 on Feb 27, 2009 9:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
SOOOOOOO what are you gonna do abut your login name?? doesnt look like hes gracing valley ranches practice facilities anytime soon
by missingthe90s on Feb 27, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to keep my name...
Unless he signs with wash then its gone lol…I think he will be missed here its hard to find guys his size to play end in a 3-4…However if we can get a NT and move ratt to end i am ok with it..But thats a big if
by canty99 on Feb 27, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think...........
we should get a little club together in honor of tex, and change our names to drew henson
by missingthe90s on Feb 27, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting.....
Shows what little I know. I thought for sure that Canty would be on the first plane to Miami. As of now, doesn’t look that way. I know that things change but I thought he’d be there first thing this morning.,
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Did Ray turn down 3 years and 25 Million?
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
by Wmillion on Feb 27, 2009 10:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
He Thinks...
Jerry will offer him more.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Feb 27, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Screw the redskins
I think ware’s asking price probably just went through the roof. I was thinking 6 years, 85-90 million before this. He should get more than haynesworth -unlike haynesworth, ware has played well in years besides contract years.
And seriously…56 mil for hall?? I thought snyder had learned from his mistakes?
by foyesboys on Feb 27, 2009 10:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
they did overpay however
there a much better defense now….thats reality…hall will be even better now with haynsworth there…
by canty99 on Feb 27, 2009 10:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
But a possible 115mil?
I’m putting my 9yo on steroids and getting him into the weight room now. My boy’s gonna get paid!!!!!!!
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Feb 27, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but...
They’re losing shawn springs, who in all honesty is a better corner then hall even at his age.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They were a 10 ten ranked def last year, so now maybe their will rank a few points higher.
I think they needed off help.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Feb 27, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
rumor out of philly
eagles going to trade for t. holt…they will give the rams reggie brown and late rd draft pick….
by canty99 on Feb 27, 2009 10:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Key words....
“out of philly”
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'd be happy with that as a cowboys fan
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
by hinduplaya on Feb 28, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Little Dannyboy Bites It Again
If there’s a bigger idiot in the NFL than Jerry, it’s Little Dannyboy Snyder. No player is worth that kind of money, especially one who has a history of erratic behavior (see the scars on Gurode’s face) and injury. Yes he is a differencemaker, but the ’Skins have an amazing history of taking differencemakers and turning them into underachievers.
Way to strap yourself, Little Dannyboy!
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Feb 27, 2009 10:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure...
There are more owners out there that would like to have three superbowl rings.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haynesworth Has Been Model Citizen Since the Stomp
The Titans should have signed Haynesworth for what the Redskins paid. They don’t have cap issues and he was the best player on their team. You should compare the Titans Defensive stat with him playing v. when he was not playing.
And who cares if the Redskins overspend in FA nd get their share of busts. It doesn’ seem to affect their ability to sign whomever they want every year. If anyhting they show that salary cap issues are overhyped i the NFL if you have an owner willing to spend and people who know how to manipulate the cap.
Will you say Ware isn’t worth the money when the Cowboys re-sign him to a similarcontract?
by Blammo on Feb 27, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ware is much better than Haynesworth
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ware v Haynesworth
You can make a good argument that Ware is better than Haynesworth. But it’s not a slam dunk, and there is no defender in the league “much better” than Haynesworth.
by Blammo on Feb 27, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he is much better
he also plays closer to the outside, Dware plays a more important position and is also almost never injured
by AustonianAggie on Feb 27, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going with my cowboys googles
But I think Ware is the best defender in the NFL, thats why so much better
by AustonianAggie on Feb 27, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the fact that he plays about every down, is never hurt, and
has played at a high level in years other than contract years is why ware has to be considered better than haynesworth.
by foyesboys on Feb 27, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They are both in the top 5 Defensive players in the NFL
And they play different positions and affect the game in different ways. They are int he same class in my opinion. I’d rather have Ware, but I think saying he is “much better” goes a littleto far.
by Blammo on Feb 27, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My problems aren't with his stomping...
I think he is a hell of a player, but I think it’ll be questionable of how his play will be once he gets his money.
I also look at the fact that he hasn’t played a full season since 2002 and in Tennessee he wasn’t even a full time player, he was pulled off the field on about 25% of the plays.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AFR honestly though how many d line men that play tackle are in much more than that. good teams rotate their line players.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Feb 27, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
The Titans rotated their D-line by design, then used the fact that he didn’t play every snap as a reason not to sign him. All to hide the fact that they are being cheap.
by Blammo on Feb 27, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey he's a beast.
I’m not taking that away from him, I just think that he’s overpaid.
I mean it is significant that he hasn’t played a full season since his rookie season.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stacy Andrews to the Eagles
More then likely
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 10:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Shawn Springs Anyone?
Rotoworld says Skins just released him? Could he play safety? Wonder how much money he would want?
by Boundforbeach on Feb 27, 2009 10:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If there's one position I never want to see an old man play
it’s corner
by sublimezg on Feb 27, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
unless you're Darrell Green
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pats made a great pick up for taylor
good value play there…those pats make all the right moves…
by canty99 on Feb 27, 2009 10:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
They always make those play
And more then likely they pay off for them, there management is excellent.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pats
It might be a good move for the pats. But if another team signed him media members would say it doesn’t make sense to pay for age, especially at RB. When the Pats do it, they’ll say how smart they are.
by Blammo on Feb 27, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
because it always seems to work for the pats
I bet taylor is very productive for them..we shall see…
by canty99 on Feb 27, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree about his production . . .
I’m just talking about perception/media coverage.
Is Maroney officially a bust?
by Blammo on Feb 27, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think so.
I was high on Maroney but he has been plagued by injuries and is entering year 4.
He’s yet to bust 1000 yards and can’t hold off Lamont Jordan or Kevin Faulk.
As of right now he’s a bust, although I guess he would pull a DeAngelo Williams.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it makes sense if you're a WINNING TEAM
and need a couple players to give you that extra boost. IThis move would make sense for the Pats, Colts, Steelers (depending on how they feel about mendenhall) and philly too.
by foyesboys on Feb 27, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they get the benefit of a 1 year contract with Taylor
and he tolerates a 1 year deal to have a chance at a SB
by AustonianAggie on Feb 27, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The reason it makes sense for the Patriots...
Is that they don’t have a clear #1 runningback anyways.
Taylor has been productive most of his career, I don’t think last year was an inclination of his ability because the O-line was aweful in Jacksonville. Even MJD had a very average year.
What’s the risk for New England, ZERO.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 10:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
12 HOURS and counting
Okay… it’s now been 12 hours since FA started, and my ADHD addled mind is starting to warp. There’s already been a flurry of activity, but nothing out of Valley Ranch, sans rumors that they are going to trade or cut RW1. Does anyone really think Jerry’s going to make a move today? Or is it sit back and look for bargains in the coming days.
by Boundforbeach on Feb 27, 2009 11:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
i don't think we're gonna pull the trigger on any of these top tier free agents.
Especially with the money thats been thrown around. Ray Lewis is the only guy who i think interests jerry enough to considering giving out a big money contract. And i just don’t see him coming here, though i kinda hope he does.
by foyesboys on Feb 27, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Miami
You wrote: It always makes me queasy when Bill Parcells starts rummaging through the bottom of our roster.
Why? Don’t you know that Parcells can’t find his ass from elbow, and that all the good players that came to Dallas while he was here were due to Jerry’s genius, and all the busts were because Jerry let Bill have his way?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Feb 27, 2009 11:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Also, let's remember that raf has pointed out that when it comes to off linemen,
Big Bill has missed more often than he has hit.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Feb 27, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Th guy is a football moron. Thank god Jerry was around to salvage something from his tenure
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Feb 27, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
are you serious?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Feb 27, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There is no way he's serious
I don’t even know where to begin and if I did, don’t have the strength to go down that road today.
The day someone thanks God for Jerry Jones, well, forget it
by cow_fanatic on Feb 27, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do hope
we get Ray Ray, but I highly doubt that happens. I really don’t think Dallas needs much, which is why I won’t be too sad if they don’t sign anyone major. But I do hope Ray comes, more for the leadership he brings.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Feb 27, 2009 11:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kellen Winslow
traded to the Bucs
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3939777
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Feb 27, 2009 11:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
On a side note...anyone see this?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3939794
…Notice he’s a former Cowboy’s QB and not a former Jet…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Feb 27, 2009 11:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cowboy verses Jet
we all know who they will pin it on.
by Nink on Feb 27, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cowboys drafted him
And he played more game in Dallas, he had less than a full season in NY. Why wouldn’t he be more closely associated with the Cowboys?
by StillHateTheGiants on Feb 27, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hence why is an ex Cowboy
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did I hear that Canty has a visit with another team?
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Titans Saturday & Seahawks Monday
according to kffl.com
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=3
Oh... Oh, that's giving me a clue. Yeah, ye-yeah, I've got a raging clue right now.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...
by icStars on Feb 27, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
here's my prediction
the next player the Cowboys sign will NOT be a free agent…any guesses? It should be easy.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 12:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If you think about it there is no rush to extend Ware yet....
He is not going anywhere. He will be franchised if something is not worked out.
by Boyzfan94 on Feb 27, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo! we have a winner!
Cowboys have said on numerous occasions their number one priority this off season is locking up Ware and they always take care of their highest priorities first.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTB blogger of the day lol
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well this is intersting for Housh
Housh likes the Vikes
Wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh caused quite a stir during an appearance on ESPN early Friday morning. Although the Minnesota Vikings were not initially thought to be a likely destination for the veteran, Housh remarked on how nice it would be to play for a team against whom opposing defenses could not focus on him, saying, “I’m looking at teams I think have good coaches and good offensive lines and good running games. I have no idea if those teams are interested in me. If I can play with Adrian Peterson, can you imagine what I would do getting one-on-one coverage with Adrian Peterson? I am going to win 98.6 percent of the time with one-on-one coverage with him in the backfield.”
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What good WR....
Wouldn’t want to go to Minnesota?
I think Adrian Peterson is the only runningback in the league anymore(and Jackson when healthy) that forces alot of situations where there are 8 men in the box.
I think now that LT has hit the age wall and Jackson can’t ever stay healthy, that Peterson is far and away the best RB in the NFL.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
AP is one of the few players that affect every play on the offensive side of the ball.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who's the freaking QB?
Barny Fife?
by AustonianAggie on Feb 27, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sage, or T Jack, or Gus, or God no one knows.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Barney Fife...
might be better then who they have.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dude...your double posting the same crapola ??
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 27, 2009 12:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I didn't mean to post it here
After I posted it up there.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he would fair well in Minny though opposite Berrian..
Sage Rosenthel the answer though ??
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 27, 2009 12:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
compared to Tavaris Jackson..yes.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You really think so
Did you watch that Colts game last year, he was AWFUL, yes I know it’s the Texans, but come on some of those throws.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree he was awful
I thought he played well except for a few turnovers. He’s always been one of the very best backups in the league.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A few Turnovers
He had what three, and the one fumble was just bad, yes he’s a good back up but isn’t he being brought in as a starter or thoughts of it?
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's still worlds better than Jackson
any way you look at it.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I kind of agree but kind of don’t, I thought T Jack was turning the corner but I was wrong, so I guess your right, but I wouldn’t be proud he is my starting QB
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
beggers can't be choosers
Cowboys were in the same boat before Romo came along
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesnt Tavarus kinda remind you of Quincy Carter?
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny you say that about Rosenfels because I told my son
the other day about him going to Minn. and he burst out laughing.
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol...Terry doesn't consider turnovers a big deal....
Sage must be a gun slinger too, i guess..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 27, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta agree with Terry on this one....
I mean the Colts game was hysterical but aside from that game, he actually played better than Schaub in 2007.
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But Schaub isn’t anything ti ride home over.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
in 2008 Schaub showed he was the better QB overall
pretty clearly
by AustonianAggie on Feb 27, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why isn't Brian Dawkins on a plane to Dallas right now?
What a huge improvement he’d be in our secondary, even at his age.
by Urinal Mint on Feb 27, 2009 1:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
who's the coach in denver now? and personel guy?
by AustonianAggie on Feb 27, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Josh McDaniels is the HC
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
because the Cowboys aren't interested
in old, has beens who are past their prime. It’s bad enough we have one ex Eagle on this team, two would be far too many.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
on leadership alone i would have brought him here..
i don’t think he considered Dallas…no way he’d be able to back to Philly and play in from of his old team…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 27, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but wouldn't that be so much fun....
to watch those Philly fans booing him?
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They are literally crying over on their site...
fun to read..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 4:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really....
He’s better then Roy but he’s slow and injury prone.
He would help against the run, but he’d be a patch and nothing more.
He wouldn’t be a “huge” improvement.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dawkins is not as good as we remember him being
2008 the eagles were doing things to cover for him
by AustonianAggie on Feb 27, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would take him over Williams, or Keith Davis.
Esp. if we can’t get a decent safety where we pick.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dawkins has little left in the tank
no way stay in philly please….You watch him play in that ariz game?? he was awfull
by canty99 on Feb 27, 2009 1:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree, clearly past his prime
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's just hope that Jerry knows what he doing about the safety position....
because if he thinks that Watkins and Davis can handle it w/o Roy we are in big trouble.
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I highly doubt that would happen.
Although with Jerry, you never know.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's what scares me...
He is the same one that thought we could ride out the season with noodle arm Johnson
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just to be honest...
I don’t want to defend Jerry that much, but NO one thought Johnson would be that bad.
Plus it was alot of bad circumstances that made Johnson even worse…
No Felix Jones, no Kyle Kosier.
You can put me up there with one of the idiots that at least thought Brad Johnson could hit wide open passes 15 yards down field.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what your saying
But Brad Johnson…there were easily better guys out there, and I didn’t want Johnson from the moment we signed him.
by joey7289 on Feb 27, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no, that would be Garrett
Jones just trusted him.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So this is the thing.
When did it become the in thing to blame everything on Jason Garrett?
He had a bad year as an offensive coordinator, I don’t think anybody can deny that, but this was a top to bottom failure in 2008.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not blaming anything on Garrett
actually, I’m one of his biggest fans, but he is the one who convinced Jerry that Johnson was good enough to be our backup, just stating facts.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
But you know what I’m saying?
I honestly thought that Johnson would be good enough to not screw up.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Feb 27, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All I'm saying is whoever, and I don't care if it's Jerry or JG, better darn
well make sure we have the safety position covered if they cut Roy cause it could/would be a lot worse w/o him if we only have Watkins. Maybe, JG did convince Jerry that Johnson was okay, but ultimately as GM you gotta know better. I mean he was there everyday in training camp as well as JG to see how pathetic Johnson was. Even we, as fans, saw it.
by texstar on Feb 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
GMs have to trust their coaches
because they should know more about the players than anyone.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Feb 27, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Garrett is responsible for about 40% of all the problems we had this past season...
and retaining Brad was clearly his decision…that piece og dung ..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 27, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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