Cowboys and LB Keith Brooking reach agreement
by Dave Halprin on Feb 28, 2009 5:13 PM CST
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PrintWell, the Cowboys decided to wait a day before getting active. On the heels of the Anthony Henry for Jon Kitna trade, Dallas is going to bring veteran Atlanta linebacker Keith Brooking on board.
A day after he was unable to reach a deal to remain in Atlanta linebacker Keith Brooking has joined the. Cowboys.
Brooking will sign a three year deal.
The move reunites Brooking with coach Wade Phillips, who was his defensive coordinator in Atlanta
Brooking is a Georgia Tech guy, so you know he's good. I kid! With this move Zach Thomas is almost assuredly done as a Cowboy and it would pretty much put the nail in the coffin of a move for Ray Lewis. The question now is what becomes of Kevin Burnett?
[UPDATE, from the threads]: Blogger Tarheel Paul quotes former Cowboys GM Gil Brandt, who told Sirius NFL Radio that the Cowboys have scheduled a visit for former Redskins CB Shawn Springs.
[UPDATE II]: The Keith Brooking deal is relatively cheap. DC.com says about $6 million for three years with $2.5 million guaranteed.
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Supercool!
Brooking will be a nice fit. Resign and/or draft another ILB and that position will be set no matter what Bobby does.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
i like this move too
who cares if he is not glamorous, the cowboys needed to do something in FA. this is a solid signing. Brooking has just a good a chance of being successful in dallas as zach. It is a wash in my eyes, since Brooking is a better fit size wise, is cap freindly, and is 2 years younger than zach. this also gives carp a shot to make himself a starter since he is not competing with a superstar or high payed player. Yes i know carp has shown nothing but we have to see what he can do. this is his door, hope he takes it.
Barbie's door has shut
Brooking averages 100 tackles/season, not much different then Zach
His best year...
Was when Wade was his DC at Atlanta. I like guys who know how to run Wade’s defense. I welcome him. Plus he stays healthy too.
Seems that Wade is having some influence.
Does this mean Igor?
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
I really like this move
he brings expiernce with wade, and some leadership to the D without the price of Ray.
co-sign
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Hey Grizz.....
Sorry about the ass whoopin the Tarheels put on the Yellow Jackets today. Remember the days of Lethal Weapon 3?
But you must feel like its christmas. First you get Tashard Choice and now you get Brooking. It’s raining yellow jackets.
This isn't exactly a yea rah rah moment...but we saved a bundle by not signing Ray Lewis..
to be determined at a later date…We almost assuredly NEED to draft a ILB high in this years draft….Brinkley, McKillop, or Joseph…
I would like the deal
If we do draft someone, but what about Bobby? Do we give him a chance or just draft someone.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
Barbie will get his last chance to fight for the starting spot....if he loses out to a 33 year old, and a rookie...he needs to go..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
He's gonna take Burnett's spot.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
Carpenter is going to assume Burnetts role at ILB most likely
Brookings on 1st and 2nd downs…Carpenter 3rd downs, etc., Just like Burnett did.
That's probably the best role for Carp.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
I'll take Joseph for 500 please
McKillop looks like Bobby Carpenter 2.0 to me.
I thought McKillop is more of an inside sure tackler guy.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
its where you make those tackles
I don’t see pop, speed or any exceptional skills from McKillop
That is an ignorant statement on so many levels
McKillop looks like Bobby Carpenter 2.0 to me
I’m sure you’ll get hell from Terry for saying that, but to compare numbers Carp had 20 bench press at the combine and McKillop had 27.
I don't know if saying he has 7 more reps at 225
is going to help prove your point.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 28, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
If it shows up on film fine
but Mckillop could be a guy with short arms which helps you on the bench press.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 28, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
I don't care what his BP numbers are
you don’t lift on the field, you play football.
I’ve seen him play. I watched him closely at the Senior Bowl when he played next to Darry Beckwith and McKillop looked like Joe Average to me.
Yep...
I know guys in high school that could bench a ton but couldn’t tackle a soul.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
I will say this much....
McKillop is more suited for Bradie James’s position of taking on, and shedding blockers to get his tackles in, as opposed to a rugged, shiftier, versatile, coverage type kamakazi missle that is more fluid and mobile and a designated tackling machine…..if that made any sense
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
Beckwith did everything better than McKillop in that game
was more decisive. Was quicker. Shed blockers better and delivered harder hits.
your right...he did...and i'm sure that's why the boys have interest in him....
he’s a poor man’s rookie version of Zack 2.0, but I don’t think he fits here either…..Brinkley and Joseph are the two LBs I want.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
I couldn't watch that game
but I have seen him play and McKillop is a tackling machine, and looking at the Senior bowl stats McKillop had 7 TT as 1TFL and Beckwith had 3 TT and 1 TFL.
Here is what Scott Wright had to say about his performance
Pittsburgh ILB Scott McKillop was everywhere, filling hard against the run and making a nice goaline tackle of James Davis. It’s pretty obvious this guy is a gamer.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Practices/North-124.php
Looking at last years statistics
Beckwith had 51 TT 1 TFL and .5 sacks 0 PBU 0 INT
McKillop had 137 TT 18.5 TFL 4 sacks 4 PBU and 2 int
There is no doubt McKillop is better than Beckwith...
I’m not a fan of Beckwith…..but McKillop is in more in the mold of Bradie James to me…I’d love to grab him in round 3 if we didn’t take a LB by then.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
that draftcountdown write up also says he is nothing special
and banks on his intangible to get him by
maybe i remebered it wroung but....
in my defense the write up states: “Was a tackling machine for the Panthers but just doesn’t have the physical tools you look for at the next level…Not nearly the pro prospect that his press clippings would lead you to believe but he has a chance to make it in the NFL with the right team due to his top-notch intangibles.” either way i think he is to slow for the NFL. but hey, to each his own. Of the ILBs ranked similarly, i would prefer mauga, phillips, ellerbe, f. joseph, and w. willams to him.
oh i didn't see the last part
but you have to take all these write ups with a grain of salt. All I can say is what I see with my own eyes, and McKillop is going to be a good one.
Also, Mauga and Williams are nothing to write home about. Would much rather have McKillop over them.
honestly i perfer those two because you can get them in the 5th
mckillop you would have to pick up in the 4th. if all three were there in the 5th i would be satisfied if the cowboys got any of them. mckillops production cant be denied though. mauga has better speed and williams better bulk.
I do like Phillips over him though...or as much..I should say..
the rest mentioned are NOT better than McKillop
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
no way Raf
McKillop is everything Carp isn’t….tough, strong and extremely productive.
In Romo we Trust
Re: Burnett
I think we save enough by not signing an expensive ILB FA we sign Burnett to continue his role here and possibly push Brroking for time
I'm glad Miami's in the AFC
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
definitely
I’m happy parcells didn’t decide to go to washington or something.
that depth at linebacker is starting to dwindle and it concerns me. something has to be done about that...
…either through free agency or via the draft.
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We continue to get older.
Anyone have details on the deal, I heard three years, how much guaranteed?
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 5:26 PM CST reply actions
By
What a year, my bad, we’re getting younger!
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
Don't forget
Kitna is 3 years younger than Brad, so we’ve gotten 4 years younger total.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 28, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
and he's bigger and stronger than Zach
which makes it an upgrade. however, with the loss of burnett, we’re gonna have to shore up the LB corps…
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I just hope Brooking has some left in the tank.
I would also like to see Carp named starter and let him have the most reps now all the way though pre season. It will tell us once and for all if he has a chance of winning the job. It wouldnt hurt Brookings in the least(might even save him some wear and tear). Whether you like him or not it will give him all the reps he needs to find out once and for all. We either get younger at ILB or we can cut bait. It would also let the rest of the league evaluate him to see if we could trade him and not be a complete lost.
Maybe Bobby is gonna slide into Burnett's role?
While Brooking takes Zach’s spot.
Anybody know about Brooking’s cover skills? I know he was Atlanta’s Eugene-the-tackling-machine-Lockhart.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Um
I don’t think there actually that bad, but don’t quote me on it.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
i agree with that.....depending on the terms....Brooking isn't just waltzing in here as the starter...
he’s quality veteran depth at a position we have NO depth at..
NO depth.
Shudder to think what would happen if Bradie got hurt. Even with Brooking, we gotta get probably 2 ILBs in the draft unless they bring another vet in.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
yep
Wasn’t it just last year that lb was our deepest position?
well, i guess its debatable
Ware, Ellis, Spencer, James, Thomas, Burnett, Carpenter vs Newman, Henry (both injury prone), Pacman (suspension) and two rookies. CB turned out to be deeper.
+1
Jerry said don’t look for the Cowboys to go after any big name FA’s
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 28, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind 2 of their top 3 picks being ILBs.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
There have to be bargins
With guys who aren’t young, but not old, I see what your saying, and although I agree, just don’t feel solid on Brooking
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
Ok real quick
Anyone else hear Jay Cutler wants out? Sorry for it being off topic but i just heard it now.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 5:37 PM CST reply actions
I heard it was supposed 3 way deal
that would have sent Cutler to the Chiefs and Cassel to Denver. I don’t think that is happening now.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 28, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
No it isn't
It’s dead, I just found it interesting, ok back to Cowboy talk LOL
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
I like this move
Like the Zach Johnson move last year, this is also a cheap substitute for signing Ray Lewis. I don’t know what brooking has left in the tank, but he provides depth and leadership to a lineup that needs it.
i know a dude named zach johnson, and for some reason I always say the wrong name
its like a reflex or something.
We needed to sign a smart white guy
like the Patriots consistently do. :) We have too many selfish players. Wade is not the dummy many think he is. This guy should help shore up the middle.
Yeah, that was stupid
We signed him because he hasn’t had a seaon under 100 tackles in a decade, not because he’s white
We signed Zack
because he was smart, different than the rest of the guys and he was very productive at Miami. We need an infusion of new blood to turn over the roster. The “white” was just a zinger. But it does fit under the catagory of different. Keith Brooking is another one of these guys but he may be a better fit than Zack.
I agree
my reply was to the guy who said “Zach Johnson” but really meant “Zach Thomas”
Busy day at the Ranch...
I like the moves their making so far.
Got a decent backup QB without a big signing bonus, in exchange for a CB who probably gets cut otherwise.
Picked up a solid LB with experience in Wade’s system. Anyone seen a $ amount yet?
BJ the limp arm is gone.And rumor seems to point to the Thong being next…
I disagree
The Cowboys traded for a older Qb who missed most of last season with a back injury. In Kitna the Cowboys get a short, aging, non mobile Qb with no arm strength and does not like to throw the ball down field. I think the Cowboys just cut that guy. A Player who the Lions were going to cut. If the Cowboys really wanted Kitna they could have picked him up after getting cut. I have a feeling Kitna would not have had many suitors.
In turn the Cowboys could have traded Henry for a low round draft choice.
Now they bring in a 33 year old player who has been playing outside linebacker for several seasons and will ask him to him play inside on a 3-4 defensive where he is going to have to shed blockers that out weight him by 60-80 pounds.
They are going to let younger , quicker more athletic player in Burnett go.
Now they might bring Shawn Springs in. I am guessing if they sign him it is to replace Henry. Springs will be 34 this march missed has 14 games over the past 3 seasons. Henry is 32 and has missed 7 games in four seasons with the Cowboys.
+1
They all come cheap but don’t sound like upgrades.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Your evaluation of Kitna is way off
First, since when does he not like to throw downfield? The guy has gone downfield more than almost any other QB in the NFL the last few years as part of a Mike Martz offense in Detroit (remember when he lit us and our Safety hole up at the end of the 2006 season?) and earlier in Cincy when he was connecting with Chad Johnson.
He is not Romo, but he’s not totally immobile— he’s got decent in-pocket mobility— and his arm strength should be fine, unless it’s really dropped off in the last year and I’m not aware of it.
I’d be pretty comfortable calling Kitna one of the top 10-12 backups in the league. He’s got decent physical tools and he has enough veteran experience that you feel comfortable having him captain the ship for a couple games if necessary. Who would you take over him? Certainly not Grossman or Boller, who don’t show the ability to read a defense at all and are still prone to youthful mistakes despite the fact that they’ve spent several years in the league.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I just heard Gil Brandt on NFL radio
say that the cowboys are going to bring Shawn Springs in for a visit
YES!
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
Trading Henry . . .
really seemed to suggest we had another vet CB on our radar. Springs would give us solid depth and insurance for our two second year CBs. And he’s a better man-to-man coverage guy than Henry. AND I WANT TO PLAY MORE MAN AND BRING THE HEAT ON D. COME ON.
agreed
If it turns out we didn’t have a backup option at cb, i’ll be pissed at jerry. Cause even though i love the potential of jenkins and scandrick, we’re the annual newman nagging injury away form watching these guys line up agaisnt other teams number 1s and number 2s. Henry, though no longer a great/solid player, at least provided some depth.
And you’re right about springs. Sign this guy and we’d have 4 solid cover cbs.
Guys do you homework
Springs is older and missed twice as many games in the past three seasons then Henry did in four with the Cowboys.
I couldn't agree more...
This would be a big upgrade on man coverage to A. Henry. We all saw what soft zone did for our d the first half of the year…Pressure pressure pressure. He’s no spring chicken, no pun intended, but he can play press better than most CB’s.
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
Let us not forget...
it was Springs just last year who shut down TO in the 1st game vs Was. No bad for a relative senior citizen in the NFL
Who didn't sut TO down besides the 49ers who decided not to press?
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Philly....
Cleveland, Cincy, Seattle, Washington really didn’t shut him down completely, he still had 7 catches.
Plus three games with Brad Johnson.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
I didn't hear that and I was listening to him
He said it would be a good idea for the Cowboys to take a look at him considering his dad is a former Cowboy. He said they probably will, but I never heard him say a meeting was going to occurr. I’m not sure it will happen anyway considering he want’s to be a starter and the money he will want. Maybe he can play safety, but I don’t think he would want to.
This is where he was going to visit....
Patriots | Springs to visit Sunday
Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:04:12 -0800
Shalise Manza Young, of The Providence Journal, reports the New England Patriots will visit with free-agent CB Shawn Springs (Redskins) Sunday, March 1.
He will probably be a Patriot by tomorrow so forget about Springs..
Pats have another, younger, possibly better CB coming in to visit as well, I forgot who.......so don't count him gone yet...
The Pats were the first to get involved though…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
Was it Leigh Bodden?
If so, he left w/o a contract.
Oh... Oh, that's giving me a clue. Yeah, ye-yeah, I've got a raging clue right now.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...
yes...there you go...a much younger alternative to Springs...thanks..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
as a side note....Bodden played underneath Grantham.....
may be worth a good look
An alternative for whom, NE or Dallas?
Oh... Oh, that's giving me a clue. Yeah, ye-yeah, I've got a raging clue right now.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...
I don't mean to speak for Numba1 but I'd take him.....
He’s relatively young but good. He just had a bad year with Detroit.
Valid points
but so many cats from Detroit would have me scratching my head.
Oh... Oh, that's giving me a clue. Yeah, ye-yeah, I've got a raging clue right now.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...
I would take Bodden in a heartbeat
My gut tells me if he left NE that he is asking for a good sum of money..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
I don't know but I heard a couple of weeks ago that someone would probably
get him rather inexpensively because he still gets his money from Detroit and he wants to prove that he’s good. He did play underneath Grantham in Cleveland.
Bodden would command more money than Springs...
Another older recently cut veteran to look at as a possible FS Chris McCallister….great size 6’2" 210lbs….but I’m not sure what his injury was last year….He’s 31 years old…so maybe not a big contract needed…i’ll look into his health….tbd
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
he had knee surgery on Nov. 12th, 2008....depending on the extend and success of it...
he very well can be ready to go come training camp…he’s being considered by the Jets…so Rex Ryan most know he still has skills..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 1, 2009 6:23 AM CST up reply actions
wow
if we could get springs for cheap, i’d be elated. A springs signing would make this trade make so much more sense. I still doubt we’d get him for cheap though – hes been a great cover corner these last 5 years.
Do I have to use the subject line?
Wish they would have taken Carpenter for Kitna. Henry was okay and more than a throw away player to me. Maybe Henry cleared more cap space than Carpenter. I liked some of the FA QBs better than Kitna, but he’ll be a pretty good back-up.
I like the Brookings signing. Our D is really pretty young, so I don’t worry about adding a little age if the price isn’t too bad. I’m sure we’ll darft an ILB too.
I think Burnett is good player. It worries me that we will let him go b/c of concenrs about his size in a 3-4, yet Miami and 3-4 guru Parcells are willing to sign him. I would have liked to let him try to play more last year (over thomas) to see if he ould have held up. I miss th sppedy defenses of Cowboy teams in days of yore.
I have the strangest feeling of deja vu...........
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
no way, the reason this trade was right was because....
henry and kitna have about the same NFL lifespan left, about 3 more years each.
Carp has a chance to turn things around. we trade carp and he turns it around in detroit, then we loose out big in this trade. henry will do fine in detroit but not spectacular and only for a few years.
I like the move
Solid players. Springs would be a great move
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
+1
LOL!
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
Off topic
But I have serious doubts about anyone who would take Cassell over Cutler. Would Denver and Josh McDaniels really have traded Culter for Cassell? Surely Denver wouldn’t have done that straight up would they? I know McDaniesl is familiar with him, but that seems ridiculous.
What?
What are you talking about?
Where did that come from?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
The trade was at one point
Cassel to Denver, Cutler to Kansas City, and the pick to NE, but it fell apart.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
Very
But who knows, Cutler wants a new contract I think, and isn’t happy or something alone those lines.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
Springs >>>>>>>>> Henry
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
+1
They’re around the same age, but Springs is a great man-to-man corner and can provide good depth.
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
when he's healthy
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of course
but, Henry wasn’t ever really healthy either..
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
Thats relative though
Henry had played hurt a lot these past few years, and hasn’t been very effective when playing injured. it seemed like our coverage improved every time henry went ot the sideline with a minor injury.
All I know is last year
Springs played less, that is more important to me.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
i wasn't a big fan of henry either
but if da King is gonna sign a capable DB, i want one with VERY MINIMAL injury history.
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good luck
capable cbs without injury history don’t find a way into free agency very often, and when they do, they are massively overpaid.
off-da-field problems aside, pacman didn't have an injury history AND he was not massively overpaid
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wasn't trying to do that, but my point is this...
… if you’re selective enough and don’t throw around stupid money — a la dan snyder — you CAN find a capable cb that’s not injury proned.
speaking of washington, they signed fred smoot last year to a vet minimum deal — another capable cb not injury proned.
honestly, that would be moronic to shell out big bucks for someone who plays what seven or eight games a season? now, if da King can get him on the cheap, that’d be a different story.
we’ve already got T-New, Jenkins, and Scandrick. we could add another DB in the draft or find a June 1 cap casualty cut.
plus, i think safety, NT, and now LB depth need to be addressed before signing springs to a fat deal.
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YOU Decide...
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I would add Ball to the list as a good enough 4th/5th CB
I wasn’t his biggest fan, but he showed improvement last season. If he can pack on some more muscle weight without losing quickness, he should get a mention.
I would still like Jerry to grab a CB in the middle of the draft (Joe Burnett please!) and a vet CB if he doesn’t cost much.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 28, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
I like Parson.....and would be a great pick up in the later rounds...
I see us drafting at least 3 DB’s this draft..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
i agree Pac would be gret for depth but the dude is no longer compatable with this team
we are going toward less drama. yes it is hard to believe, even though we are keeping TO. I think the exception is for players that really produced
Unfortunately, Pac wasn't
worth the trouble off the field to justify his okay play on the field.
That's the big IF
I like Springs, and he can still dominate most WR’s when healthy. But his contract will have to be really cap friendly.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 28, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
healthy or not, henry was a liability at corner
i just want us to bolster our secondary with a solid playmaker whose not injury proned.
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Brooking.....
Brooking will be a good olb for us he is a veteran. So he will be able to help the defense also he is a big, smart guy.
ILB
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 28, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Just because a player goes to Miami...
Doesn’t mean that it’s necessarily a bad move for either team.
Fasano was in a perfect position last year and did pretty decent.
Akin did… what Akin does. Just kind of makes a tackle now and then.
Burnett is very talented, the reason he’s being let go is more due to the fact that he gets hurt every year.
IMO Miami well be a 6-10 year this year, not because I’m hating or anything, I just know that they had one of the easiest schedules you can have, the wildcat is being figured out, and Pennington gets hurt at least every couple of years.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Agree
Everyone will catch up with Miami this year.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
the east isn't that good though
Do the jets have a qb? I’m not sure all these moves the last two years to rbign in veterans will pay off for them. The Bills have some peices, but miami has more. I think they’re 8-8 to 10-6.
Dolphins are a whole lot better than you think guy...and will contend for the playoffs i'm sure...
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think they suck...
But I can look at the roster and I know there isn’t anyone offensively besides Ronnie Brown that scares too many teams and they won’t be playing the AFC West and NFC West, the two worst divisions in football, PLUS Brady will be back.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
dude...think about waiting till free agency and the draft are over before making assessments...
they are a few players away from being very good…..and they have several draft picks as well…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
Ok...
You know what, I’ll just wait until after the draft to make a viable opinion about any team in the NFL.
Are you freaking serious?
All I’ve said is factual information, they had an easy schedule. They don’t have a great offense.
I can making a freaking assessment of a team and their talent level at any time I want. It’s what we do on these boards in the offseason.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
I live here in
Atlanta, and the fans were ready for Brooking to leave, not sure if he’s going to really be a great help on the field, but I do know he’s a class act and will be a great addition to locker room.
I will be fine with that
Depending on how much he gets paid.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
that contract for Brooking is chicken feed.....we can still go sign Lewis after seeing that contract...
at least bring back Burnett at about 5 million per…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
They're not going to sign Lewis
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 28, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
"chicken feed" - LOL!!!
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
why would you give Burnett $5M a year?
He won’t play any more than last year, unless Dallas gets a 340 lb. NT and he can play Donnie Edwards Jr.
He’s not worth $5 M a year.
well..your right...I was thinking he's worth 4 - 4.5 prior to entering the draft...
Boley set the mark at 5 million with his signing in NY….I was just throwing a number out there…but I would sign Burnett to a 5 year 20 million deal ..and he could play full time if we had a monster NT….he’s better than Brookings is all i’m saying
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to have him back
but if Miami is going to pay him $5 M I have to pass.
Though I can’t see them paying him that either. They just re-upped Crowder at around $4.5M a year. I don’t think they’re giving Burnett more, because I don’t think he can be an every down LB there either. They don’t have a Jamal Williams sized NT either.
by Rafael Vela on Feb 28, 2009 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
Why Didn't They...
Just sign Burnett instead? I mean, he’s younger, faster and has been in Wade’s system for 2 years now.
~Texas Massacre 08~
cause he'll be paid somethign like 5 or 6 million a year.
and brooking comes MUCH cheaper
Schefter just pointed out Brooking and Ware have the same agent.
Not sure if that will help or not.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
I could maybe see that as being a factor that made it easier to do a deal with Brooking
But I can’t see how it would affect Ware’s negotiations
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
alot of NFL players have the same agent
I mean practically every big name player is represented by Drew Rosenhaus the real life Jerry Maguire.
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
this is an odd note to point out
Don’t many players have the same agent? This seems kinda irrelevant.
Yeah most seem to either have Rosenhaus or Tom Condon.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 28, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
terry, wherever u are, u might have been right
we might/should have drafted cason instead…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
Ugh
I’ll wait and see if Wade can make Brooking relevant again, but he looked D-U-N done in every game I saw him in last season. Physically he just can’t shed any blockers and doesn’t cover the ground that he used to sideline-to-sideline. But it looks like he’s our ILB on first and second down, so here’s hoping he gets rejuvenated in Dallas.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
RFA is not a tag you can put on a player
I’m not sure of exactly what the rules are. But I think when your original contract runs out, you become a restricted free agent, and become an unrestricted free agent the following year, barring a new deal. Canty and Burnett were unrestricted free agents this year.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
RFA vs UFA
I believe this is how it works. If your contract runs out before you have 5 years in the league then you are an RFA. After 5 years in the NFL, when your contract is up, you are an UFA.
you can't put RFA tags on them....in fact they were RFA's last season...
Jerry could have franchised one of them at a price neither are worth…or placed a transitional tag on them that gives them the righnt to match any offer they get.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
Is that because
of the number of years they have in the league or the value of their contracts? or their drafted position?
I think it has to do with the length of their deals
You aren’t eligible for unrestricted free ageny until you’ve been in the league a certain amount of years (4 or 5 I think, but not sure). So if your contract expires before that length of time, you become either an exclusive rights free agent (I think only if its a one or two year deal) or a restricted free agent (after 3 or 4 years). I don’t entirely understand what an exclusive rights free agent is (As far as I can tell, you can either resign with your team or they choose to release you, but you aren’t really free to visit other teams), but a restricted free agent means the team can put a tender on the player and get the right to match any contract offer they get, and if they choose not to match, are awarded draft pick compensation from the other team.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Thanks
BigD…. clear as mud now….. really, the number of years in the league and the length of the original contract is the deal, it seems. Thanks again.
Exclusive Rights
I believe, is a type of franchise tag, meaning you cannot seek a deal with another team. As opposed to a non-exclusive rights tag which means you can talk terms with another team, but you present team has the right to match and if they dont then they get 2 1st round picks from the team signing the tagged player.
Not sure
but I think we get caught up in signing our own players too quick.
In hinsight would we still have signed crayton/williams?
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
Craytons not getting paid much
its not like his signinf has prevented us from signing other guys.
Roy is going to be paid a lot these upcoming years though.
nice dealgetting brooking
got him pretty cheap and he still can play some and will provide some leadership this team needs…good deal…
I also like the kitna deal..he can still play and has a strong arm and letting henry go is just fine with me…
i wonder if we're being frugal this year
then letting TO go and go after Fitzgerald next year???
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
Is Fitzgerald a free agent after next year?
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 28, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
according to this
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
aight
nevermind then. just saw that website…thought that was the case…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
actually?
you got a link…from everywhere i see, he’s a UFA in 2010…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
Something called volcano monitoring?
Now spending money on something like that is more stupid than that owner in Arizona.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
what is fitz' current contract?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
3/11/2008: Signed a four-year, $40 million contract
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
that website is flawed....enough already...he just redid his deal last year...
he’s never leaving Arizona….etched in stone..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 28, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
fitz, in his prime, not testing the FA market???
that wouldn’t be smart on his part…
And, yes, Ariz, and that owner, is usually that dumb…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
by the way
this is just a hypothetical… not ‘rumors’…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
quote from ajc after falcons playoff loss to cardinals
But Brooking, who seemingly has been a lightning rod for criticism from some fans since signing a $42 million contract in 2003, has taken a brunt of the blame. A lot of that stems from the game’s final decisive play: a 23-yard pass to a pedestrian tight end, Stephen Spach, whom Brooking lost in coverage on third-and-16. With three minutes left and the Falcons trailing on the road 30-24, it’s not like the odds favored them winning. But given the backdrop, the play made him an easy target.
Those 2 road games against Denver and Kansas City
will be much tougher then I thought a couple days ago.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
Just hope they struggle getting use to a system
Although they still don’t scare me.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
I get the feeling we will open up the season at one of those teams.
Fox seems to like having the Boys open up on the road at an AFC team.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 28, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
Hmm
Would make sense, I will hold my judgement until I see a product on the field, I hate assuming.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
not sure cassel is all hes cracked up to be
and dawkins and vrabel are well past their prime. At this point, they provide leadership but not too much else.
Both games were going ot be difficult to begin with – road games in those stadiums aren’t easy.
Eaon on DC.com....
says that Roy W. is very excited about Kitna coming to the Boys. He said that he can help Romo out a lot. He said that he was a good mentor to Chris Palmer. Does that make you guys feel better now? Hope so.
Jordan Palmer is his brother.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 28, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
Harry
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
He means Carson.
He was with him in Cincy.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 28, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, I'm bad at first names-lol
Carson’s kind of a off name
isn't he an offensive coordinator for an NFL team?
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
Yeah he has been with the Cowboys too.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 28, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
Man, you can't make any mistakes around here can ya?-lol
Right last name-wrong first name. You did get the gist of my post though right?
HA! i knew who you were talkin' 'bout, Texstar. but my curiosity has me wondering which NFL team Chris Palmer is the OC for?
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
I'm totally getting a Keith Brooking jersey.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
Damn the Giants made two good signings.
Rocky Bernard and Michael Boley.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
Big
will own Boley. No worries.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
Boley plays SLB, not DT...
And Bigg plays RG. So I think Bernard will be more of his responsibility than Boley. That said, Boley is an excellent player that they signed for a great value and I think we should all be dismayed at the signing.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
ah, chris canty is a bridesmaid again
where now, Chris? Green Bay? Seattle.
Wonder if he’s pricing himself off the market early on?
Green Bay makes the most sense since their going 3-4
or maybe he will come crying back to Dallas.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 28, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
+1
who has a better chance at winning:
seattle/gb/sf/dallas.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
Someone will still pay him more than Dallas
Just a hunch. I would guess GB, or SF.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 28, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
Rocky Bernard was just signed by the Giants.....
they were saying that if the Giants sign Canty that the rest of the NFL better look out. Please tell me it aint so?
If he doesn't come back to the Boys...
please go to the Packers. They were saying on NFL Network if Canty ends up there along with Bernard, they would be the team to beat.
Who cares what the NFL Network says...
Like the Giants defense is what let them down last year…
Unless one of those defensive players convert to a WR that can command a double team then the Giants will make the playoffs but thats it.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
+1
Don’t believe everything you read, who knows who will get hurt, or what will happen.
by joey7289 on Feb 28, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
+1
Where is canty going to play with the giants?
will he play instead of usi and tuck?
The dolphins are waiting for the market to quiet down then go after canty.
If the fins don’t make a move that tells you something.
all these free agents are are great until they go to to another system
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know why a 4-3 team would pay him more
His real value lies in his ability to play DE in a 3-4. It would be surprising if he ended up with any 4-3 defense.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 28, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
I hope you guys are right cause I sure wouldn't want to face him a couple of times ayear
I think his agent got his hopes up too high because of the Haynesworth deal.
why?
is he better than tuck/usi/robbins or theother dt?
doubtful
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
I don't understand why so many fans and media outlets criticize the Cowboys personel decisions...
Sure, for a few years there when salary cap/ free agency started in the late 90’s, some bad decisions were made, but since Parcells came here, it seems Jerry has made much better decisions. He seems to trust his talent evaluators more, and I like how they avoid the risk of going after the top free agents and instead looking at the “value” players. Not crazy about Kitna or Brookings, but they’re not exactly being brought in to start…they’re backups. The Cowboys seem to be planning with contingency and using the draft to improve.
Falcons fans reflect on Keith Brooking
From Falcons fans at Football Outsiders on the message boards, on Keeith Brooking:
“His pass coverage is painful.”
“This eases the sting of Boley leaving… the worst case scenario for Atlanta was if they retained Brooking and let Boley jet. I wasn’t expecting much from Brooking this year and he still managed to surprise me with his poor level of play. Broken tackles, overpursuit, always getting himself out of position – he freelances as if he still has his old speed. There’s still some value there, seeing as he stays healthy, prepares hard, is pretty bright, good leader etc., but his level of play continues to deteriorate.”
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Ouch, good thing he was cheap.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Feb 28, 2009 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
Somehow I don;t
think they got Brookings for pass coverage.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Ignore the coverage statement then and read the second paragraph
ILBs have to cover on first and second down too. Not as much, but yes, either he or Bradie will be doing a little pass coverage from time to time.
I’m not as concerned about Brookings’ pass coverage abilities, though— it’s his run game skills that worry me. He seems like a downgrade from Zach Thomas.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
That sounds...
scary. Usually, the fans know best.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Feb 28, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
especially fans
who see their players bolting for other teams instead of sticking with their’s…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
it does sound scary though....I admit...i heard his play has dropped off dramatically..
but i’m trying to be optimistic…I don’t think he was brought here to be starter..to be honest..
One observation
Wade wouldn’t have recommended him if he didn’t think he could fill the position, at least for the coming season. He’s totally responsible for the defense now, and he’s not going to jeopardize his job and reputation as one of the best 3-4 guys out there just to fill a hole. He must still think Brooking can get the job done as a 3-4 ILB. They are still going to draft the future starter in April, or try to anyway.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
Wade knows defense
and Wade knows Brookings. I am sure he has watched alot of last years film on him and thinks he can use him.
Good point
That’s why I’d say we’ll wait and see on this, but Brookings’ play last year was poor, there’s no way two ways about it. Maybe Wade will help him regain his prior form.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Brookings reminds me of the...
Leonard Davis signing. Our fans panned it. The Cardinals fans were laughing. The problem was Davis was playing out of position. I hope that Brookings performs much better at 3-4 ILB than 4-3 OLB and provides additional inspiration for Bradie and the rest of the linebacking corps.
They were saying the same thing about Zach last year as well....
I know that Zach didn’t do great but he was better than Adodeyle.
I like brookings
he’s been a model citizen, I hope it works out, but I would have rather have boley.
if he can tackle
like Zach that will be great.
First play against the Gmen this year Zach hit Jacobs for a loss.
We just need Brookings to tackle.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
FA gives a football team a chance to improve itself
Can anyone here honestly say the Cowboys are a better team today then they were when the season ended?
why not
are you saying becasue we lose burnett/henry and possibly canty we are worse?
The contrary: I want to see scandrick/jenkins play every down. I want to see carpenter play / ratliff play every down.
Romo plays every game; austin.kosier,newman healthy. Yes we are a better team. Belive it or not we have a capable bkup QB.
The big if is at NT. MOve spears to NT and draft a NT.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
They aren't
going to move spears permanently to NT. You do that and you’re at DE loss.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
you
have hatcher/ratliff/bowen at DE and the rookie we drafted last year.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah but...
you’re acting like its just guranteed last year that Marcus Spears would be a better NT then Ratliff.
If that was the case, why didn’t they do that last year?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Answer...
It wasn’t, they experimented with it in the offseason and then used it sparringly in the season.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
too much
hope the kid from BC will be there.
probably not.
Groom someone from inside the organization.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
Its not like
He’s the only NT in the draft dude.
The reason Spears wasn’t a NT last year was that HE wasn’t that good at it.
Just because you look like NT doesn’t make you a NT.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Jesus...
I sweat to god, some of you think that the NFL if like Madden, and that you can just plug and put people in different spots just for the hell of it.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
???
Look at spear’s size to ratliff’s
Than look at Haynesworth and all the other NT’s in football.
Might they all be over 300lbs and over 6 foot 2?
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Dude...
THEY TRIED IT… IT DIDN’T WORK
What about that don’t you get?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
you don't
need a translator.
You need a little time for your brain to understand what you are reading before you respond.
Fairly simple. called comprehension.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
Calm down Airforce
people have different opinions about things, you’re always telling them what to think…just chill.
by Dave Halprin on Mar 1, 2009 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
I'm calm
They tried what he’s saying last year.
Remember that?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
what i don;t
get is they didn;t use it the entire year.
Typical wade.
Last I saw were 2 ravens running over 80 yards.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
thumb , they tried it last year. Do you remember last year? I do.
Spears was no good at the nose. He is a 3-4 DE its not a size issue as much as its about a specific skill set. he’s fine as a tackle when we line up in the 4-3 next to rat,Ware and Ellis .
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Just wait until Jerry opens the Jones Institute of Cloning Research
In a few years we will have the technology to grow whatever player we need in petry dishes.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 28, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
They'd just regulate it like they did the arena players
the clones would have to clear waivers first
Oh... Oh, that's giving me a clue. Yeah, ye-yeah, I've got a raging clue right now.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...
Based
on Spear’s size he should be tough to move.
Also I wouldn’t give the defensively coaching staff an A on coaching.
Carpenter had a great game against Seattle and then ends up in Wade’s doghouse the following year.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Do you watch any of the preseason games?
If you do, it shouldn’t be that hard to see why Carpenter can’t get on the field.
Who is Carpenter better then that had been starting?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Phillips
admitted he played one bad game in the preaseason against the vikes and he buried carpenter.
Last year he was hurt on and off.
He has the size to play.
Give him a chance.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Ok maybe this will get through to you...
he plays like coward.
Even the O-line in practice calls him out on it.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
OK
who says he plays like a coward?
The cowboys beat writers?
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe this will get through to you Airforce
You need to check that condescending, talking-down at people tone at the door.
by Dave Halprin on Mar 1, 2009 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
That's not true...
But whatever man.
I’ve never told anyone WHAT to think.
Just ban my account.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
and he will....I don't see them spending a high draft pick on a ILB....
not this class of LBs…..He will be in the rotation with Brookings this year.
not sure why
but Ratliff gets overpowered by big centers. The eagles pushed him around all day
.
Ratliff does not command a double team and the guards get a fre run at the ILB’s when teams run up the middle.
ratliff may be better suited at a DE.
Maybe the kids from the chiefs helps
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Me neither...
He wasn’t over powered that much.
It’s not his strength that is the problem its his size.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
how about
the ravens game / eagles game?
the centers handle ratliff one on one when they run right at him.
he is quick enough to beat them when he slants.
too small
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
Dallas needs a NT, but moving Spears to that position isn’t the solution.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
i would be interested
to see where teams gained most of their rushing yards against the boys.
I would guess runnings sweeps at spears/thomas/ellis and off center/guard runs at ratliff / thomas
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Carp and Brookings are not upgrades
over Thomas and Burnett
Newmen has not been healthy the last two years I woudl not be shocked to see him miss more time this year.
Carp has had three full seasons to proove he can play. He is a bust
Austin might not be back if a team makes a good run at him.
Even when healthy Romo took a step backwords last year.
Kitna missed 12 games last year due to a back injury. He is mot mobile, holds onto the ball way to long, has no arm stregnth and is old. I think the Cowboys just gut that same type of player.
Dallas must now look to draft OL, DL, LB, CB and Saftey.
Again, you're way off on your Kitna evaluation
See above. You’re making up Kitna qualities just to suit your point. His arm strength is just fine.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I can honestly say...
they have a better Backup QB today then they did last year.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Bat my friend
You and some dude are better backups then the Cowboys had last year. If Romo goes down do you feel comfortable with Kitna behind center?
He has a longer history of injuries and missed time and less arm strength.
Im not sure if he is suited for our offense. When he signed with Cleveland several years ago they ran a much closer offense to ours than the west coast and he was terrible. If we ran the west coast I would probably give him the nod. Alas we do not.
Yes ,I will take Kitna over BJ. Brookings willbe an upgrade over Z Tomas. If Henry is replaced with Springs i would say Yes we are better.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Springs is older
and has missed twice as many games (14) in last three years then henry did (7games) in the four he was in Dalklas
Springs like Henry
would not be epxetced to play every down this year.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Report is
springs is on his way to an interview in NE tomorrow morning.
This after Bodden left his meeting w/o a contract
Oh... Oh, that's giving me a clue. Yeah, ye-yeah, I've got a raging clue right now.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...
I thought Springs was headed to Dallas Tomorrow?
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
+1
we need to play the db’s we drafted last year.
adding up Henrys numbers and kitnas numbers and we saved some $$ against the cap.
by oneforthethumb on Feb 28, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
If we traded Henry...
…then it’s clear that the coaches don’t believe they can count on him, either because he won’t be healthy enough to take the field or because he’ll be hobbled when he’s out there. I like him when he’s healthy, but that’s been rare lately, so I get their viewpoint.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
From kffl.com
Patriots | Springs to visit Sunday
Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:04:12 -0800
Shalise Manza Young, of The Providence Journal, reports the New England Patriots will visit with free-agent CB Shawn Springs (Redskins) Sunday, March 1.
Oh... Oh, that's giving me a clue. Yeah, ye-yeah, I've got a raging clue right now.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...
Yeah, I just posted that above
I heard Gil tonight also and he never said Springs was coming for a visit. He said they should pursue him. Unless I missed something Gil never said anything about Springs coming for a visit. Springs will be a Patriot by tomorrow so move on from this topic…
We did it simultaneously @ 10:52
cool
Oh... Oh, that's giving me a clue. Yeah, ye-yeah, I've got a raging clue right now.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...
Here's the link to the Providence Journal
http://patsblog.projo.com/2009/02/cb-s-springs-to.html
Yeah, he’ll probably get a deal there
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Feb 28, 2009 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
I should be more nervous
…but for some reason I trust the Cowboys staff has the personnel issues under control. I was pretty nervous last year when they dumped Aaron Glenn but it was apparent in the end that they had a plan. The only disastrous personnel move was keeping Brad Johnson, but since they did sign and keep Bollinger as the 3rd quarterback (when they had gone with 2 before) showed me they saw the writing on the wall beforehand but didn’t have better options.
I didn’tlike he Roy Williams (WR) trade at the time, but now it seems like a very wise move getting out of the first round this year especially with 2010 looming. Gives me hope that our organizations knows what it’s doing…
alot of people are saying the exact opposite
But, I think things are going relatively well. I would’ve liked to sign Wilson or someone to fill our safety needs, but we’ve gotten better than we were a day ago so w/e. We still have the draft and more signings can be done if necessary. Maybe Springs.
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