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OK, so I'm no technician for the crime lab. And I don't claim to be an expert in handwriting (just ask my wife). But peering into the deep crevace that is all of the he-said, she-said of whether Lucille Hester is truly the sister, half-sister or play-sister [sic] of Bob Hayes, I start to feel like I'm watching a cross between episodes of CSI and The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show.

So let's look at something that cannot, or at least would be difficult to, lie - the autograph. This could let me know whether what was read truly came from Bob Hayes.

The good folks over at DallasBasketball.com have continually harped on one piece of evidence, and that is the differences between the autograph on Bob Hayes' player card and the Hayes autograph on the letter that Hester read after the announcement of his induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Hayescard_medium Hayesletter_medium

So I decided to take a closer look. Again, I'm no expert but some differences are clearly obvious.

Star-divide

The Capital "B"

Hayescard_sig1_medium

The card "B" is more round. It also has a hesitation at the bottom of the vertical line indicating that the line is made with a down stroke. There is a distinct loop to the left of the vertical line and has a continuation at the bottom of the "B" loop that continues to the left of that line, indicating that the next letter was started after the pen was lifted. i.e., not continuous.

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The letter "B" starts at the base and is made in an upward stroke. It is more rounded than vertical. The loop at the bottom of the "B" does not continue to the left of the vertical line but instead loops over itself to begin the next letter in a continuous fashion.

The small "o"

Hayescard_sig2_medium

Again, the card "o" is rounder and, as stated above, appears to have been started with a different stroke than the capital letter. Also note that the final stroke of the letter that crosses over the "circle" of the letter is made at the 11 o'clock position, or left of top center.

Hayesletter_sig2_medium

The letter "o" is more slanted to the right and not as round. The final stroke of this letter crosses over at the 1 o'clock position, or right of top center

The small "b"

Hayescard_sig3_medium

The card "b" again is round. Its final stroke at the bottom of the letter continues back behind the vertical line, indicating that the end of the letter was made in a downward and back to the right (clockwise) stroke.

Hayesletter_sig3_medium

The letter "b" has a more slanted vertical, much like the capital "B". The ending stroke of this letter, instead of continuing past the vertical line, loops up, indicating the end of the letter was made in an upward loop stroke, or counter-clockwise.

The Capital "H"

Hayescard_sig4_medium

The card "H" has vertical lines similar to the Capital "B". The distinction here is that the crossing line on the "H" is made as a continuous stroke after the right vertical line.

Hayesletter_sig4_medium

The letter "H" has straight vertical lines, unlike the capital "B". The more distinctive mark here, however, is the absence of the continuation for the horizontal line across the verticals.

The small "a"

Hayescard_sig5_medium

The card "a" is started at the top on a separate stroke from the capital H. You can clear see where the pen was lifted after the "H" and started again with the "a".

Hayesletter_sig5_medium

The letter "a" is clearly a continuation of the capital "H".

I won't continue with the rest of the signature because the latter part of the card signature becomes more difficult to view as it is over the blue and white of the socks. But looking at the first five out of five letters, I have serious questions as to whether the two signatures are from the same person.

I say again - I am not a handwriting expert. But I would hope that this exercise would prompt more noteworthy professionals in that line of work to examine these documents. With all of the reporting that has gone back and forth since his induction announcement, his legacy deserves to have this episode settled.

As a fan, I want to know that the words I was told came from Bob Hayes truly came from the man. If not, I would feel cheated.

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So what you're saying is that the sig's are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!

Cause I can’t agree more. Something’s fishy here. When everyone else in Bob’s family is saying this chick has gone off the deep end and the only one defending her is herself, I tend to side with the rest of the family…

by AikmanNailedMySis on Feb 4, 2009 8:15 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Let's put her in a room with Jack Bauer...

Five minutes is all he’ll need to crack her. If that doesn’t work, we can designate her an enemy combatant and send her to Gitmo until they close it. Something’s foul in the state of Denmark!

by Boundforbeach on Feb 4, 2009 8:31 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Either that

Or he’ll asphyxiate her with a plastic bag, then leave the room and leave her to writhe in pain brought about by the torturous fluids in the IV drip she’s been connected to, which is subsequently used to kill her by James Cromwell.

Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert

by Conjunction on Feb 4, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL... Better yet...

Let’s tie her to a chair and make her read Tex’s posts. All of them. She’ll be sobbing and broken in no time…

by Boundforbeach on Feb 4, 2009 8:45 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

A sample

of Lucille’s admitted handwriting would be helpful. Fwiw, I think she’s a fake.

John 14:6

by DMorgan on Feb 4, 2009 9:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I tried ...

I couldn’t locate one. I found her name at the Bob Hayes Foundation in Washington, D.C., which I then was able to track her to the Black Women in Sports Foundation. But I could not find a signature of hers anywhere.

I only wrote this with the hope that someone who has the professional credentials to do a legitimate comparison would do so. To me, that’s the easiest way to determine if the letter she read over the weekend truly came from Bob Hayes.

Congratulations Bob Hayes
"I played for the world's greatest professional sports team in history. Once a Dallas Cowboy, always a Dallas Cowboy." - Bob Hayes
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by Raul Villaronga on Feb 4, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like another copy of Bob Hayes' legit signature, not just the one provided by

Dallas Basket Ball.com. My signature changes but certain things, like Bob’s lead ‘B’ with a backbone vs none at all, I can’t imagine changing. That said Bob Hayes family is as messy as mine is, filled with half-brothers and sisters and oblique connections. Two Cowboys players say Bob introduced her as his sister, that’s big enough for me to legitimize her as his sister.

by AustonianAggie on Feb 4, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This situation is so messy.

There was a discussion about this in the “Lunch Break” and it was said that Robert Newhouse and Calvin Hill has always known Mrs. Hester as Hayes’ sister. This is somebody who allegedly was with Hayes in his death bed and fought for him to be inducted into the HOF for several years. I’m echoing the question Nick Eatman brought up. Where has the family been all these years? If Hester is not a relative as they claim, why did it take until Hayes’s induction for it them to come out? Why was she alone in fighting for Hayes’ honor and how did it come about that she became the contact person between Hayes and the NFL?

by troysboys on Feb 4, 2009 10:12 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Rashad Johnson is interesting

2 year starter, Saban calls him smart, stand out in pass coverage, good speed, sometimes lines up at CB. Went to college as walk on running back, that shows mental fortitude. Alabama went as far as it did with a great defensive turn around and you can bet the safeties play a role in that

by AustonianAggie on Feb 4, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He seems kinda skinny and frail to me

I’d like my safeties to be built better.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 4, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They are both his IMO.....

Knowbody’s signiture is exactly the same everytime you write it..

by Boyzfan94 on Feb 4, 2009 10:53 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I think thats the key

I cant imagine smoeone changing how they write the letter B in such a significant way

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 5, 2009 12:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If it was one or 2 o3 places different you could apply that argument, but this entire sig is off

When you’ve autographed or signed your name thousands of times during your life, you won’t change every single aspect of your signature.

The 1st B is clearly different, and the second b isn’t connected to the H at all. It’s not even close.

The same person didn’t write both.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Feb 4, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe she is Hayes' half-sister ...

I do not believe the letter she read was signed by Hayes. I appreciate all she’s done to fight for his induction, but I’m not ready to hand her his jacket.

by GalTex on Feb 4, 2009 11:00 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

agree

she’s his half-sister but do not think she was given her brother’s rights to his estate……

by Geeter on Feb 4, 2009 11:39 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

true -- I've got 2 brothers that are not my other siblings brothers

I have 2 siblings entirely unknown to my 2 other siblings, even though I know all four of them quite well.

They might be caught up in a quagmire similar to that. At this point, I say she’s his sister… maybe not when he was 8, but seemingly when he needed it she seemed the one who supported him, advocated him, and he clearly considered her his sister.

She’s the one who kept Hayes in the press, raised money for his tombstone, so, I’m down. Bring everyone. They should of done this before he died, would of solved the problem.

As a side note, Peter King is a bad writer who obscures reality more than enlightens his readers.

by AustonianAggie on Feb 4, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to change the subject but it looks like Dan Reeves is in the House

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Feb 4, 2009 12:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

sorry heres the link i think

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Feb 4, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I saw it too, he's 'quietly' moved in an office in the coach's wing

Dallas has seriously changed its modous operandi since the Philly Euthanizing we all experienced it seems, getting secretive, staying close to the vest

by AustonianAggie on Feb 4, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that is the best thing this team could do is stfu!

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Feb 4, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I just hope they work out all the drama before his induction

I would hate to see it marred by a family (or non-family) feud. Maybe all sides can agree on a third party (Dandy Don, perhaps) to induct him.

by JimmyJohnson on Feb 4, 2009 1:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

here is the most clear and convincing evidence
One of the world’s leading type-face designers says the letter, dated October 29, 1999, is printed in Calibri typeface, which was not introduced until 2007, through Microsoft.

“The font used is Calibri,” said Luc(as) de Groot, a Dutch type designer and founder of Berlin, Germany LucasFonts.

How can de Groot be certain it is Calibri? He designed the font in 2003 for Microsoft, though the font wasn’t available to the public until it debut on Microsoft Office 2007.

Bob Hayes died on September 18, 2002. Lucille Hester, who says she is Hayes’ half-sister, has said he signed and gave the letter to Lucille during an Oct. 1999 trip to visit her in Washington, D.C.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 4, 2009 2:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

this is really damaging...

the letter really makes her look like a liar….

"They need security in the world, Craig!"

by Tuna Helper on Feb 4, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice research, Raul.

I hope you won’t be doing this when I read Emmitt’s acceptance speech next year.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Feb 4, 2009 5:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nice!

Or when I read TO’s in a few years.

by Realist Larry on Feb 5, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

God willing

Emmitt will be present to give his thanks in person.

Congratulations Bob Hayes
"I played for the world's greatest professional sports team in history. Once a Dallas Cowboy, always a Dallas Cowboy." - Bob Hayes
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com

by Raul Villaronga on Feb 5, 2009 8:12 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He will.

I wanted to go to Canton to see Dorsett get in; I didn’t.

Wanted to go for Michael; I didn’t.

Maybe Emmitt’s year will be the one that gets my butt out to the HOF.

Anybody here ever been there?

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Feb 5, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not me...

… but my brother-in-law and I are already planning hotel reservations…

Congratulations Bob Hayes
"I played for the world's greatest professional sports team in history. Once a Dallas Cowboy, always a Dallas Cowboy." - Bob Hayes
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com

by Raul Villaronga on Feb 6, 2009 5:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone else pointed out...

…the fact that “Staubach” is misspelled? I’m guessing Bob Hayes knew how to spell that.

by emaredee on Feb 5, 2009 3:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

good catch

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 5, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It was crazy seeing those Roger to Bullet highlights

and seeing the goalposts up there on the goalline. How dumb was that?

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Feb 5, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Prior Fan Post

I had a Fan Post when we first merged that showed Cowboys QBs… Most of the passes to Bob Hayes in that montage came from Meredith…

Congratulations Bob Hayes
"I played for the world's greatest professional sports team in history. Once a Dallas Cowboy, always a Dallas Cowboy." - Bob Hayes
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com

by Raul Villaronga on Feb 6, 2009 5:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I read...

… that the letter also misspelled the team “49rs” (49ers) and his high school “Mathews” (Matthews).

Oh well, close enough …

Congratulations Bob Hayes
"I played for the world's greatest professional sports team in history. Once a Dallas Cowboy, always a Dallas Cowboy." - Bob Hayes
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com

by Raul Villaronga on Feb 6, 2009 5:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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