Garcia, step right up
by Kansas on Feb 9, 2009 2:55 PM CST
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PrintWith the Bucs resigning McCown it now seems that Garcia may be able to slide into Dallas' back-up role. This would be a major improvement providing not only a quality backup in the circumstance of a Romo injurty, but also someone to push Romo. I do not feign the idea that Romo is on the hotseat, even his 'bad' last year was a good season (throwing wise, not dropping wise). That being said, it cannot hurt to have someone on the sideline who coaches actually have confidence in.
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wouldn’t mind that at all.
Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale's vagina. .
You can write off David Carr coming here as well, cuz he resigned with the NY Giants for another year..
1 year/ 1 million…
Great, this is turning into a really bad Monday
first, McCown and now Carr. I’m sorry guys I just don’t see Bollinger being worth crap at all. From what I saw, he had zero arm strength. At the risk of sounding negative, I’m beginning to think that Garrett doesn’t know how to judge whether a QB is any good or not.
not..he's very mobile....but it don't matter now..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 10, 2009 8:32 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe Carr could've been the next great reclamation project.
Like Young or Testaverde who were brutalized early in their careers Tampa Bay but let’s remember Carr sucked during his stop in Carolina and that was with a weapon like Steve Smith at his disposal. Rookie Matt Moore thorougly outplayed him.
But wait…..ooh, he looked good in the preseason and a meaningless season finale. It don’t take much to impress if you were a former solid gold top overall shiny pick, does it?
Oh Goodness no!
Please don’t bring Garcia here. He’s great in a West Coast offense, but any time he’s play for a team that doesn’t run a West Coast scheme, he’s terrible.
How Bout Them Cowboys!
co-sign
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
Ugh
there’s a lot of WCO in the Dallas playbook. Has been since Sean Payton
was OC. Garrett has an amalgam of schemes, some from Turner/Zampese,
some from Jim Fassell, who is a clear WCO guy.
Garcia won't be signed unless T.O. is waived
We have enough drama without those two reliving their SF days together.
Garcia is a good WC qb, I question whether he can throw down field at his age considering Garrett likes to attack defenses down field.
In Romo we Trust
You can't attack downfield with an o line that collapses withing 3 seconds...
we should be going west coast…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Feb 9, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Feb 10, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
Garcia would be a great addition to this team
Not only as a QB, but a player. He has the same mobility as Romo and a similar level of competitiveness. Hell, he even married a playmate (who had quite a public trial), so he knows what it’s like to be under the scope with a woman off the field.
He doesn’t need to have a big arm, just an accurate one, which he does. As far as the WC offense, I want to see more of it injected into Dallas anyways. These skill players would do just fine catchin’ and runnin’.
BTW: Any truth to Lindsey Soto’s claim that Jerry is inviting players to his house to discuss the future of T.O.?
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
i wouldn't mind that
but would be thoroughly shocked if that move isn’t coupled with TO’s release
It would have to be.
I think any #81 Dallas jerseys out there may have to clean out the back of their closets.
It’s coming, guys. Sorry, but it’s coming.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 10, 2009 1:10 AM CST up reply actions
It's time to move on.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 11, 2009 3:06 AM CST up reply actions
agreed 100+ Big..he getting cut..
The said thing is I paid alot of money for a authetic TO home jersey last season……
me too
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 11, 2009 3:05 AM CST up reply actions
Not this year...
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Feb 10, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
It's time to move on.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 11, 2009 3:06 AM CST up reply actions
not this year
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Feb 11, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
I love this idea
Garcia still has plenty of game left, if not a huge arm. He would be great, IMO.
Nice work, Kansas.
by PaulFVillarreal on Feb 10, 2009 10:52 AM CST reply actions
Bring on Garcia
Cut TO tomorrow
Sign Garcia ASAP
Immediately declare the starting quarterback of the 2009 Dallas Cowboys an open position and let it be known that off-season effort, team-building and leadership development will play a big part in who wins the starting job.
I’m serious about the above – nothing like a little competition to light a fire under a few rear ends. For those of you who disagree with signing Garcia and opening up the starting job, please tell me what the downside is.
by Cowboy Louie on Feb 10, 2009 6:25 PM CST reply actions
I think it's a great idea.
My money is on Romo keeping the starting job, though. At least he’ll have to fight for it. Garcia would be a perfect fit.
Let it happen, oh please let it happen.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Feb 11, 2009 3:08 AM CST up reply actions
because Romo is your franchise qb
and one of the best qbs in the league. Declaring it an open competition is absurd and only Romo haters like yourself would even think of such nonsense.
In Romo we Trust
Terry to play devil' advocate here, if Tony is as good as we think he is then he should win out right
but I doubt very much that this would take place. Now if Tony struggles next year and does not show a change in how he carries himself in 09 (remember he said he was going to take a bigger role in leadership) then it is a plausible scenario for 2010 if he is not able to lead this offense. It’s a big if but I would consider Cowboy Louie’s scenario more likely for 2010 not this year.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
I don't have a problem with bringing in a veteran qb
I have a problem with declaring an open competition because all of a sudden, ESPN will be declaring the Cowboys no longer have any confidence in Romo which is the farthest thing from the truth.
The truth is that Romo didn’t struggle last season, he actually had a pretty good year considering everything that happened to him. Everyone thinks he struggled because they’re comparing him to the 2007 season in which he put up MVP caliber numbers. Seasons like that are very rare.
The fact is Romo is one of the best qbs in the league despite what Romo haters say and declaring an open competition is direct slap in the face to one of the best qbs who ever wore the Cowboys star.
I’m not the only one who feels this way.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=62900351-04F4-2CC0-22AE192A7F56B597
In Romo we Trust
Does it really matter what BSPN thinks?
Besides, you did not answer my advocate question, I know it’s a rhetorical one because I know where you stand when it comes to Romo. But with that said, you do not think Romo could handle the msm scrutiny? Considering all the other perceptions about him, he has not shown any affect from what they have criticized him for in prior years. So would an open competition for the starting qb spot not make the competitor that Romo is (and that you believe him to be) play with a chip on his shoulder to prove that he could easily beat out a 39 year old qb like Garcia? The idea does not seem likely but if it did happen I think Romo could handle the scrutiny quite easily and would probably crush Garcia if they did have an open competition. I know you would counter with the point that it would be a pointless excercise but I do not see any harm if the team tried it out.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Its not about the msm scrutiny
Its about respect and if the Cowboys don’t have any respect or confidence in their franchise qb, then they’re going to have much bigger probelms than they have currently.
Of course Romo would crush Garcia, but the relationship between him and management is tarnished. It would be a stupid decision in the long run.
In Romo we Trust
Considering Romo's history with the team he has had to work himself up
from nowhere, other than the coaches his start in 06 was a complete suprise. Well I still think he would take the situation and overcome it, Romo likes a challenge and if he felt disrespected he would go out there and earn back the team’s respect by crushing Garcia (or whomever they put in front of him). I would not consider it a complete lack of respect if it was an open competition, a complete loss of faith in Romo would mean that they would be benching him for a FA qb and he is now the back-up (ala Vince Young) that would be a case of a total lack of respect because he would not have even received the opportunity to fight for his job. The relationship would not be irrevocibably tarnished if he rises to the challenge, considering his contract I think they must believe in him and I do not think he is too think skinned to take this as constructive criticism to ensure that the money they have given him is a good investment. Again, I do not think it would not harm the relationship, but could set a clear understanding that it’s a business and that no one is above a quality check because of they contract they signed.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
I disagree
It is disrespectful because he clearly hasn’t played poorly enough to warrant such a declaration. Do you see other teams declaring open competitions for their franchise qbs? Of course not, it doesn’t happen because a qb has to know the team has faith in them.
Romo is going to work hard, compete and play well no matter who is brought in, so actually declaring it an open competition is clearly nothing more than a slap in the face. Kinda of like when Jerry insisted on the hours clause in Reeves contract, no different, just plain out disrespectful.
In Romo we Trust
another thing
Everyone and their brother wants Romo to become the team leader, however, teammates certainly aren’t going to see him as a leader if he’s in an open competition for his job, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
In Romo we Trust
I wouldn't be so quick to say Romo "would crush Garcia"
I remember when Garcia came in for McNabb. With McNabb, they were losing and with Garcia, they made it to the second round of the playoffs. In the process, beating Romo on Christmas Day. Why are you so afraid of a good backup coming in? Are you just a fan of Romo or the Cowboys? All you seem to care about is Romo and not the Boys.
I'm not afriad of that at all
I stated about above I have no problem with any vet coming in to back up Romo at all, it would be great.
BTW, Romo would crush Garcia because Jeff doesn’t have the arm strength anymore to compete with Romo, but as a back up, he’d be very good.
I see him as a poor man’s version of Tony.
In Romo we Trust
You paint a misleading picture.
Now Garcia definitely deserves some credit for that Eagles turnaround but not nearly as much as people like to give him. The biggest difference was Fat Andy doubled Westbrook’s touches once McNabb went down. I guess for whatever reason Garcia constantly dropping back just didn’t have the same sex appeal for Fat Andy.
No Way
Signing Garcia is one thing.
the idea of declaring ‘open competition’ is just blog-babble.
Romo is the guy, and 67 million dollars of JJ’s money says so. He’s a franchise QB and unless he regresses significantly in 2009, he remains the guy.
I think, however, having someone there to push him isn’t a bad thing. We saw how benching McNabb actually pissed him off enough to elevate his play. Maybe Romo would benefit too?
That said, I am not a Garcia fan. I’d prefer a big, pocket passer with a bigger arm than Romo as the backup.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Feb 11, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting
Interesting that in 14 responses, I have been called a hater and an author of blog babble. Romo has been declared a Franchise qb (albeit one without even one playoff win) and the idea of an open competition has been called absurd.
However, I asked what the downside would be and the only remotely plausible reasons set forth were (1) Romo’s pride might be hurt because he would percieve this as a slap in the face; and (2) ESPN would go crazy. Those are awfully weak reasons.
by Cowboy Louie on Feb 11, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
hardly Louie
Having a bad relationship between your franchise qb and HC or management is a bad thing whether you choose to ignore or not.
Competition in camp is inherent, a team doesn’t need to publicly announce it, that is whats absurd.
In Romo we Trust
I think the point
that’s trying to be made is there are no QBs on the open market that would beat out Romo so to call it an open competition would give the impression that the organization has lost confidence in him. It also takes practice reps from Romo who needs as many as he can get.
Franchise QBs aren’t made after they’ve won a playoff game as you insenuate
Ah, an intelligent response
Thank you for avoiding the name calling and for backing your opinion with clear points.
Yeah, it’s unlikely that Garcia or any other QB would beat Romo out. However, the real purpose of an open competition would be to light a fire under Romo – to let him know that the way he goes about his business during the off-season as well as the careless way he plays the game are unacceptable and are not leading to victories in December and January.
As for the confidence thing – if his confidence is that fragile then he doesn’t have the makeup to be The Guy. As for the reps, that is a legitimate point. However, I would counter that there are thousands of reps available for anyone who wants to make Valley Ranch their home between March and July.
If there was an open competition and Romo embraced the challlenge beginning March 1st, he would have the opportunity to earn his Leadership of this Dallas Cowboys team. His contract hasn’t made him a leader, nor has his play. Leadership is like respect – it must be earned. Partying it up in LA and golfing isn’t going to earn anyone a Leadership position.
I do disagree with you to a certain extent about playoff victories making a Franchise quarterback. The term is tossed around a lot with high draft choice qb’s, but in reality there are precious few Franchise quarterbacks who haven’t tasted playoff success. In my opinion, neither Romo’s play nor his contract have earned him the right to be called an NFL Franchise Quarterback. He is a Fantasy Football Franchise Quarterback though. I understand most bloggers on this site think he has already reached Franchise Status, but I’m not one of them.
by Cowboy Louie on Feb 11, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
You're welcome
I enjoy the change of pace myself. I’ve brought this up before as an idea. Romo has never had a QB to tutor or teach in a way as he’s never had a younger QB behind him. I’m not sure about lighting a fire but I think it would some extra responsibility to his daily routine knowing someone was watching him.
I just don’t know how you put an open cometition together that would be believeable with what he’s making and who’s available.
Agree to disagree on frnachise status. It is a good debate regarding the definition of “franchise” quaterback. I
franchise qb
is one that the organization places it’s faith in and that says, “this is your team”, and thats exactly what Romo is.
Romo is the face of the franchise whether you want to believe that or not or because you don’t like the guy which you obviously don’t.
Teams don’t declare open competitions when they have a franchise qb, that makes no sense whatsoever.
In Romo we Trust
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