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Tashard Choice Should Start

I really can't wait to see how this staff utilizes the three running backs we currently have on our roster.  Many of the reports have Jerry Jones & Co. contemplating moving Felix Jones into the role of starter, but I think that distinction should be reserved for Tashard Choice. 

I think his style of running is best suited for being the starter.

At the beginning of games (when defenses are fresh) you need someone who will consistently get positive yards. Tashard is a great north and south runner, and posesses the vision that allows him to find a crease, and always get positive yards.  He is also a great pass catcher, and teams would have to account for him out of the backfield.  Also, while his pass blocking wasn't always the best, he did show a willingness to engage oncoming blitzers.  He will be better by leaps and bounds this year if asked to stay in and help protect the QB.

If Tashard starts, then Felix can be the change of pace back we need in this offense and you can come in with the "Heavy Hitter" to close the game. 

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I agree completely.

Tashard proved he can start against the best defenses. But in reality MB3 will probably get the start with sprinkles of Felix and Choice will play the middle of the game till MB3 can close.

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Mar 10, 2009 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree 100%

Choice is the real deal at RB and is best suited to start games. MB3 is a proven closer but we wore him out last year and Felix is the home run threat who can be inserted CREATIVELY (are you reading Redball?) into the line up at any given time.

by Billito on Mar 10, 2009 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

what does it matter who starts??

I say who cares if all three are going to be an intergal part of our running game this season.

I say start MB3, but get Jones and Choice in their right away and have them all get a lot of touches.

Who actually starts the first play of the game seems irrelevant to me.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 10, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

It matters...

Julius starting and not being able to grind out important yards early in games hurt us more than people think.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Mar 12, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

what does JJ have to do with this discussion?

All three of our backs are quality backs who can get the job done…there aren’t any JJs in this bunch.

Who starts doesn’t matter because they’re all good…JJ wasn’t.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 12, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because not having a back who can help set the right tone for your offense matters...

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Mar 12, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

PLUS...

It impacts how much you have to pay them come contract time!!!

:-)

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Mar 12, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree - that's what's been proven to work

Choice gained more yards against the Steelers than anyone.
Felix did great when given the ball on occasion.
And nobody finishes like Barber when he’s not worn out at the end of a game.

But depending on who plays best against the defense, we might want to change things up, as long as Garrett can make adjustments.

by Troy H on Mar 10, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

doesn’t matter who comes out first play of the game, the key will be using them strategically, keeping them all fresh…oh, and letting el gato get the corner and take it to the house.

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on Mar 10, 2009 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Start 'em all

Barber is an awesome closer and would love to see him return to more of that role. I agree with Choice being a good starter option but don’t know that it matters if he starts as long as he gets plenty of carries to keep MBIII fresh in the end. I don’t care when, or even where, El Gato comes in as long as he comes in. Multiple back sets, receiver, don’t care, just get him in. The only thing I really don’t want to see El Gato doing is too many plays of being the featured back with the wear and tear.

by shaneshot on Mar 10, 2009 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Only 2 backs who should be here is Choice and Felix

if Barber is here…he only should be used in certain occasions.

Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"

by Longhorn on Mar 10, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Felix Felix Felix

I love all three backs, but if Felix, if he can stay healthy, doesn’t end up with the most touches (carries and catches combined) then there’s a problem. We need to get this guy the ball as much as possible.

by connery on Mar 10, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Felix is the next Marshall Faulk waiting to happen

0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.

by gee-roj on Mar 12, 2009 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

The next Marshall in town.

I like that.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of

Either Choice or MBIII getting the start, because, as someone said before, the defenses they face will be fresh at the beginning of the game and we need tough runners to get positive yards.

By “start” I don’t just mean the first play of the game – I mean the majority of the plays from kickoff and on into the 2nd half. Using Felix only on 3rd down and long during that time.

Then imagine how effective Felix Jones will be running most of the play in the late 3rd and 4th quarter – all that speed and elusiveness against tired defenses – WHOA!

by BishopWest on Mar 10, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Tashard Choice will get about 5 carries a game when all backs are healthy

Much like Ahmad Bradshaw this year.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Pour out some liquor for the homey T.O.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 10, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

although i don't agree that it should go down like that...

that is probably how it will happen…

i think they should be more flexible with it, something ilke this…
First half:
t choice – two series
mb3 – one series
Second Half:
Mb3 – Two series
T choice – one series

Felix Jones – 3rd down, special packages such as multiple rb’s, slot packages, and the occasional hydra package…

i think that would give each back an adament amnt of touches, as well as keep mb3 fresh to close out the second half

by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 11, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Barber should start and get the bulk of the carries.

4 games is just not enough of a sample to say that Choice is the best back on the team. Yes, he had 4 really good games against really good defenses. But they had little tape on him.

You just can’t go off of 4 games, it is possible that we just had some favorable line matchups. You can’t just assume that Barber would not have succeeded in those situations as well. It’s just not a big enough sample.

Choice is a good back, but everyone seems to have forgotten how special Barber really is. If anybody needs an expanded role in the backfield, it is Jones.

Pour out some liquor for the homey T.O.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 10, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Felix is our special player on offense.. He needs his touches.

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z

by Wmillion on Mar 11, 2009 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Respectfully, Glory, I disagree....

I think Tashard should be given the ball alot more than 5 touches. He is our best all-purpose back, and he will keep the defense on it’s toes, as well as he does have better speed to hit the hole than Barber by far. Don’t get me wrong, if you were giving out rankings as to who our most important back is, it definitely is Barber, but I really want him punishing defenses in the latter part of the game, and I want him fresh. Tashards role will be better utilized at the beginning of the game. As far as Felix Jones is concerned, sprinkling his touches throughout the game would be wise, but he should be used in the slot as a reciever alot more throughout the whole game. If the Cowboys fail to use Felix as a reciever also, then the question should be asked “why did you draft hime?”

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Mar 11, 2009 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

i don't think its the same....

tape on a running back isn’t the same as tape on a qb…or really any other position for that matter…

what are the other teams gonna say when they watch the tape…
“wow, tchoice hits the hole… doesn’t juke a lot, just plants his foot and gets up the hole… has good vision, runs downhill”

ok, so… i mean, what exactly can you do to gameplan for that…

its not like when you watch tape on a qb like romo, where yuo can say blitz him, or hold him in the pocket, or whatever… i just don’t feel its the same… if a running back consistently gets positive yards against top 5 defenses… he’s good

of course, im not a pro… just my opinion, no disrespect to glory… love reading your stuff

by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 11, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tape means a lot

It gives them tendencies and and ‘tells’ that indicate what he’s fixing to do. I can’t for the life of me remember his name, but the guy who had the first shot at replacing Emmit. Had an unbelievable average and was a hoss when he was new and a backup. Once he took over and was needed to carry the full load, teams keyed on his tendencies and basically shut him down

by shaneshot on Mar 11, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn

I can’t remember his name either

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Mar 11, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

HAMBRICK!!

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Mar 11, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's it!!!

Troy Hambrick, it was driving me crazy.

by shaneshot on Mar 11, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't he

follow Emmitt to Arizona when we cut him?

First to six!!!

by sduncan24 on Mar 11, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes he did

And he was a miserable failure there too.

But can we consider Choice a backup really when he came in and pretty much carried the load all by himself for four straight games.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Mar 11, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

pretty sure it wasn't his "tendencies" that shut him down...

if you made it to the NFL and earned a starting role, you don’t have “tendancies”… seriously… even if he did have “tendancies,” thats something that I’m sure all NFL teams have personell for to look for that, on every tape, of every game… therefore they would be fixed… thats more like a half time adjustment….

by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 11, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do think tape matters on a back.

Some of what a back does is determined pre-snap. If you have tape you know, if we show him “this” then he’s likely to do “this.”

Also, once you find out a backs strengths, you can take them away. If a guy is exceptional off tackle, then you take it away. If a guy is great at taking toss plays around the corner, you can take that away.

An offense schemes to accentuate a RB’s strengths, so you are really gameplanning vs. the scheme, not the back. This is why Barber is better, because he is not limited. He can run every play in the playbook from a dive to a toss sweep. People knock his speed but he sure didn’t have any trouble beating Washington around the corner on sweep after sweep, when they knew it was coming.

Pour out some liquor for the homie T.O.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 11, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tendencies

This wasn’t designed to be an arguement against Choice, I like him and think he is real, merely pointing out that we don’t completely know yet. I think he has earned, and deserves, more carries in order to find out.

In addition to tendencies with scheme, they do all have tendencies, coaches, lineman, qb’s, and running backs. That is one of the reasons players look at tape. Anybody remember ZThomas yelling out shovel pass before it happened, he recognized a tendency. You can train them all you want, but in crunch time they rely on what has worked all their life. Think licking of the fingers before a pass, foot placement when going a certain direction, etc. Running backs are the same, it might be they way he shakes before a cut, the direction he looks, or leans, if in the open field is he more likely to cut left than right, etc. The best have more in their arsenal to use when something is being taken away. Not a rb of course, but this is one of the great things about DWare. He has such a complete game that he can do almost anything well, you take away one, or even two things, and he still has skills to hurt you.

by shaneshot on Mar 11, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

i really hope he can stay healthy...

i have no doubt he’s the real deal… but i do have doubts about his durability (i don’t know why, not like he was always injured in college, but its not like it doesn’t cross my mind)

by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 11, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Five is too low

If Tashard Choice were to get only five carries a game that wouldn’t be enough IMO. He is much better than Ahmad Bradshaw. I also don’t agree with your assessment that there wasn’t enough tape on TC. That would be a suitable excuse for why he did so well against Pittsburgh, but I think NFL scouting is a little more fluid. We live in a 24 hour media cycle and can have a wealth of information at our fingetips, but a NFL team with a department devoted to breaking down film can’t find tape on Tashard Choice? He was only one of a handful of effective players on our offense at the end of the year.

I digress…

I will never forget how special of a back Marion Barber is, and YES he should get a bulk of the carries. I just think TC running style is suited for getting his carries earlier in the game, and thus the reason I feel he should be the starter.

Kiss the rings!

by VegasCowboysFan on Mar 10, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Choice filled in admirably down the stretch

But don’t get carried away thinking you have more than you actually do. Fresh legs surely had something to do with his success. Thinking Marion Barber is expendable because of Tashard Choice is a good way to turn a strength into a weakness really fast. To say Choice is much better than Bradshaw is just silly..

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fresher legs? You can't be serious?

Let me get this straight. You think Tashard Choice had fresh legs in December? My guess is no one in the NFL has fresh legs at that point in the year, ESPECIALLY a rookie whose season would have been over if it were a year previous. Plus, he was the only healthy running back on the roster for weeks (taking a majority of the carries). How fresh were his legs really?

I never once said Marion is expendable. He is a vital part of this team. Still, if TC doesn’t see any time on the field, that would be a detriment to our team. Three quality RB’s is better than two RB’s anyday of the week. Fresher legs, less chance of injury, etc. Saying we should just give all the carries to two guys when there are three guys capable of producing would turn a strength into a weakness. However the distribution goes…all three of these guys should see the field every week.

As for Plaxico’s shooting range, eh I mean night club, companion you can call me silly because TC is better than the diminuitive Bradshaw. Go to NFL.com and compare their stats. They’re even, and TC has Bradshaw in catches and recieving yards by a mile. Not to mention Bradshaw has an extra year on TC, and the stats are still comparable. Bradshaw will NEVER start in the NFL. Tashard will.

Kiss the rings!

by VegasCowboysFan on Mar 11, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

19 carries going into week 13

Yes, I think his legs were relatively fresh.

If you were VegasGiantsFan and watched what Ahmad did to Buffalo to end the 2007 season and into the playoffs you would have probably thought he should have been starting games for the Giants this year.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 11, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think I just swallowed my own vomit.

I’m not a Giants fan, but my older brother and mother are. I’ve seen more than a few Giants games, including the Giants/Bills game you speak of.

Those 151 yards he gained in that game were over 25% of his career rushing total against a mediocre run defense (at best). Didn’t he throw a goose egg in the yardage department the next week against NE? So no, I’m not impressed by Bradshaw. He’ll dazzle you ever so often, but he won’t contribute consistently. He is limited as a RB in what he is capable of doing.

Kiss the rings!

by VegasCowboysFan on Mar 11, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Losing Derek Ward = A hit to the G-Men
He is limited as a RB in what he is capable of doing.

That makes me think the Giants will draft a RB; either that, or they think more highly of Bradshaw than you do.
Big Brandon Jacobs needs a breath, so it will be surprising to see Bradshaw move into the main packup role.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 11, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

it’s just silly.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 11, 2009 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

No it's not silly tyd3311, because...

Barber doesn’t have the speed to hit the hole like Tashard or Felix (obviously). Although in importance, I think Barber is our most important back, if he could play FB, then i would say he should be out there all the time, while Tashard and Felix rotate. Could you imagine that? a defense would be confused as hell if we did that. Perhaps Marion could play a FB/RB role that would allow the Cowboys to take advantage of defenses.

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Mar 11, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

what tape do you need on a running back? Maybe im ignorant but really. And it wasnt like they were really good Defenses but they were the BEST defenses choice face and ran pretty damn good. You use fresh legs well how about he did that with limited practice with first team all year.

Choice can do things barber cant. Barber gets stopped for a loss waay too much for my liking. Choice has the vision barber lacks but he also has barbers size and strength. Choice and Felix are all we need, but since we have barber its a very good luxury.

It would be a crime and poor judgment by this coaching staff if they only gave choice 5 touches. Isnt that one of the big reasons we got rid of TO.

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Mar 11, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't argue with that.

Tashard is a solid back. ’Twould be a shame to see him regarded simply as a backup.

Tashard could and probably should be the starter, but I don’t see it happening next year.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 11, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually..

I don’t completely agree with that statement because, well, he isn’t, in many phases of the game.

HOWEVER, since I thought about this a long time and played the replayed last 33 games in my head, I think it would make sense to start Choice, since he has the best mix of talents for an opening TD drive. He gets yards after contact, he can hit the hole hard and fast, he has good lateral quickness and he has a nose for the marker.

Barber could still get the bulk of the carries, but he will wear down if we don’t take care of him.

Face it, we love Barber’s smashing style of running and blocking, but that is minimized if we’re hitting some 10-20 yard runs in the first quarter and it opens up the rest of the T.O.-free offense for big play action passes. Later in the game is where Barber is most effective.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Mar 12, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Well said

Kiss the rings!

by VegasCowboysFan on Mar 12, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do like Choice

and he certainly earned more playing time this season, but until Barber proves he’s not good enough, which I don’t think will happen any time soon, then I think he’s the starter. Choice is good. Love the efficient, no BS running style. Barber is still a beast. Guy plays like a linebacker. He was hurt down the stretch. That’s the only reason he didn’t look so hot later on. With Felix and Choice getting a bigger share of the carries than last season, I think Barber will be greatly improved in the starting role.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Mar 11, 2009 2:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey guys

don’t forget about Alonzo Coleman!!!!!!!!!

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Mar 11, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

I’m sure he’s thinking, ‘Get me on another team!’

by Realist Larry on Mar 12, 2009 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

who?

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Mar 12, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I find it hard to join this discussion, because one of these guys will be hurt by week 6.

Then we’ll be down to two backs.
It’d be a miracle if all 3 were healthy all year.
Esp. Barber, who’s going to flame out even faster than a normal NFL RB, because of his style.

I love the guy, but don’t like that contract…..

by Realist Larry on Mar 12, 2009 12:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Everyone says that Choice is so much quicker than Barber

but I don’t see it. I don’t see better vision or long speed either. When I see Choice I see a slightly smaller, less punishing Barber. Quickness and long speed are about a push. Vision, is about a push. Barber breaks more tackles, and is a far superior receiver.

Don’t let Barber’s shrinking numbers fool you. Barber played three horrible games without Romo, when nobody respected the pass. He also hurt his average trying to stick it out through the toe injury.

Go back and watch the second Washington game, and it will be clear who the starter is. Here is the Cowboys last drive, starting at 6:40 in the 4th quarter.

1-10-DAL 37 (6:40) 24-M.Barber up the middle to DAL 42 for 5 yards (48-C.Horton, 54-H.Blades).
2-5-DAL 42 (5:58) 24-M.Barber up the middle to DAL 49 for 7 yards (48-C.Horton, 92-D.Evans).
1-10-DAL 49 (5:13) 24-M.Barber left end to WAS 43 for 8 yards (59-L.Fletcher).
2-2-WAS 43 (4:25) 24-M.Barber right tackle to WAS 38 for 5 yards (54-H.Blades, 92-D.Evans).
1-10-WAS 38 (3:41) 24-M.Barber up the middle to WAS 38 for no gain (54-H.Blades, 30-L.Landry).
2-10-WAS 38 (2:57) 24-M.Barber left end to WAS 36 for 2 yards (59-L.Fletcher, 27-F.Smoot).
Timeout #2 by WAS at 02:49.
3-8-WAS 36 (2:49) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass short middle to 24-M.Barber to WAS 26 for 10 yards (30-L.Landry, 52-R.McIntosh).
1-10-WAS 26 (2:03) 24-M.Barber up the middle to WAS 24 for 2 yards (48-C.Horton, 92-D.Evans).
Two-Minute Warning
2-8-WAS 24 (1:59) 24-M.Barber right tackle to WAS 21 for 3 yards (30-L.Landry, 64-K.Golston).
Timeout #3 by WAS at 01:53.
3-5-WAS 21 (1:53) 24-M.Barber right tackle to WAS 17 for 4 yards (59-L.Fletcher, 99-A.Carter).
Timeout #1 by DAL at 01:08.
4-1-WAS 17 (1:08) (Run formation) 24-M.Barber right end pushed ob at WAS 14 for 3 yards (52-R.McIntosh).
1-10-WAS 14 (1:02) 9-T.Romo kneels to WAS 15 for -1 yards.
2-11-WAS 15 (:20) 9-T.Romo kneels to WAS 17 for -2 yards.
END GAME

Pour out some liquor for the homie T.O.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 12, 2009 6:21 AM CDT reply actions  

You're seeing what you want to see

And you’re highlighting one of the greatest performances by a RB to close a game that I’ve ever seen. So, I’ll turn this back on you. That was a phenomenal drive, and that’s exactly the role that MBIII should have — let him close the game out.

I will grant that Choice’s long speed is only marginally better than Barber’s, but to say that Choice does not have better vision is just silly. That’s the quality that endeared him to me in the very first game against Cleveland. The guy hits the rights hole, hits it quick, and doesn’t automatically try to bounce outside.

f you still can, go watch the game against Pittsburgh. There’s a number of times you won’t believe how Choice got through the crowd and managed 5 yds when the gap was open only for a split second. That’s something that you’re not going to see in the stats.

DISCLAIMER: I still love MBIII, but he is suited for a specific role, and it is the coaches’ responsibility to maximize his use.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Mar 12, 2009 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want to see anything but Cowboy wins.

I’m just shocked to see how many people are ready to dump Barber after Choice has 4 good games. Remember that 7 game stretch that Julius Jones had his rookie year?

Pour out some liquor for the homie T.O.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 12, 2009 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dont want to dump him

but if we could get an elite SS or some other position we really need upgrade then i guess id part with barber. I just want to see choice get the carries he deserve. Either way we have a big luxury and this year should be really great because of it

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Mar 12, 2009 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've saved the Arizona game on my TiVo

to prove (I guess to myself) how valuable MB3 is to this team—as a runner, a receiver, a blocker, and just as an overall football player. It’s easy to be teased by the future promises of new backs, as it was when Julius was here and everyone was clamoring for Barber.

Both Choice and Felix can learn alot from the way Barber carries himself on the field. I think that Choice seems to slip by defenders without top-end speed, which gives him unique skill sets apart from the other 2 guys. Any of the 3 can be named the starter, but Barber should still get the majority of the carries while the others will definitely be integrated more. Hopefully, we will see a few more 40+ carry games between the RBs.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

This reminds me of my favorite 'play-by-play' ever, it really is amazing

Giants vs Buffalo, week 16.… Running and Defense.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 12, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if it was quickness

but it seemed that Choice was able to spin and dodge would-be tacklers in the hole much better than Barber last year. In fact, I was catching myself saying that Barber was ineffective at getting to the edge even before his injury. Choice can still turn the corner and you need to constantly maintain that threat if you want to keep a defense honest and not have LB’s pinch the middle of the line.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Mar 12, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Making my arguement for me

All these runs took place in the fourth quarter where I think Marion is at his best. Which is why I don’t think there is a need to send him out so early in the game.

If we want to keep watching Barber doing his thing, we need to protect him. There is no sense in having him be the starter when there are people on the team capable of producing as well. It’s not how you start, but how you finish. Why not have our best running back fresh when the game is on the line. Pardon the Yankee reference (I hate the Yankees) but MBIII could be the Mariano Rivera of the NFL. When he enters the game…a team would know its over. Imagine the pyschological impact that would have on the opposition.

No one is saying that MBIII is expendable. I love the guy, and you can find me rocking his jersey in my seats. Hell, one of the reasons I buy season tickets is because of Marion Barber. Lets just be smart about how we use him. Make Choice the starter. Felix the change of pace back. Barber the closer. Move out the way GIrth, Gone with the Wind, and Flat Tire. There is a new three headed monster in the NFC East!

Kiss the rings!

by VegasCowboysFan on Mar 12, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what's being lost in all this...

The importance of starting? unimportant in today’s game. Importance of closing the game out and winning the game? Priceless! It is because we have Marion Barber III that we are talking about it from this perspective. IT IS BECAUSE WE WANT MARION BARBER AROUND FOR A LONG TIME THAT WE SHOULD USE OUR OTHER BACKS.

Just think of that first Cowboys-Redskins game. The Redskins hammered us with the run. We couldn’t stop it. It allowed them to win the game. We did not change up our running backs at all in that game. I remember being furious watching that game over the fact that they never put Felix Jones in at all. I also remember being quite upset over not seeing Tashard Choice’s debut at home as a Cowboy Running Back. All-in all, it was a forgettable afternoon. Another typical “the run is unimportant to me” or “I don’t know how to use my offensive weapons” or “How important is the running game?” offensive gameplan by Jason Garrett. Having 3 good running backs on the team isn’t going to matter much if they aren’t used, much less used correctly.

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by DallasPalace on Apr 6, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember a time when I thought Julius Jones was supposedly the team’s best back.

I remember his huge breakout game against Seattle and thinking "this guy is going to be the bomb." Turns out those early flashes were nothing but a false sign of potential.

As much as I like Choice he absolutely has not proven himself to be the team’s best back just because he had a good game against the Steelers. Felix Jones was averaging 9 + yards per touch before his injury, so if there is anyone to be most excited about at HB it’s him.

Personally I think the Cowboys should give the majority of the carries to whoever presents the greatest mismatch to the opposing team. (i.e. if they’re playing an undersized defense that has great speed and lateral pursuit then a power running game with Barber and Choice would be the best option. If they’re playing a defense that it is big in the middle but lacks outside speed you give them a heavier dose of Felix and so on and so forth)

  

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by gee-roj on Mar 12, 2009 8:01 AM CDT reply actions  

I like it

Let the situation determine the tailback.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Mar 12, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

That may be what they do.

Just as when Julius was here, the “starting” title at RB was simply just a title. Any back can take over during the course of the game depending on their relative effectiveness.

Gosh, this is a great problem to have, in’it?

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Try this

1st quarter:

MB3 gets 80% and Jones gets the other 20% (Wear them out right off the bat with MB’s brute style + some chasing around super fast Felix)

2nd and 3rd quarter:

65% Tashard 35% Felix (MB can come in for goal line carries)

4th quarter:

80% MB 20% Felix

Letting MB take off 2 quarters will get him plenty of rest in the middle of the game keeping him top notch for the 4th. Tashard showed me enough to trust him with a large bulk of the carries in the middle of the game. Felix should be sprinkled in throughout every quarter.

This would look something like my stock game plan every week with adjustments on the fly.

by sublimezg on Mar 12, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

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