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Igor Olshansky: View from a Chargers blog

I asked my friend DaBolts over at Bolts From The Blue to give me the scoop on Igor O. Here's what he sent..

The Chargers drafted Igor Olshansky in the second round of the 2004 draft.  He was born in the Ukraine and came to San Francisco when he was nine.  He didn't start playing football until his junior year in high school. 2004 through 2007 were good years both for Olshansky and the defense.  He has always been amazingly strong, one of the best on the Chargers in the weight room.  The hope was that as his technique continued to evolve he might turn into an elite 3-4 defensive end.  The Chargers ranked third in rushing defense in 2004 and seventh in 2006; at least in part due to Olshansky.  After the 2007 season it was determined that the Chargers could only afford to keep one of the defensive ends and went with Luis Castillo. 

2008 was a down year for Olshansky, his tackles were way down and he seemed to be playing in fear of being injured.  Some games he was adequate, but in others he would disappear; when the Chargers played New Orleans he didn't record a single tackle.  He may have suffered some from Merriman's absence as well; Merriman frequently drew the double team that loosened up the rest of the line but with Ware the Cowboy's might see resurgence out of Olshansky.  I don't think he will ever get high sack numbers but should be solid against the run.  He doesn't get great penetration often, but neither is he blown off the line.

As a player he has been just a bit of a loose cannon.  When Bronco center Nalen shot out at his knees on a spike play Olshansky whacked him in the head pulling a personal foul and an earful from Schottenheimer.  He was also prone to providing bulletin board material for other teams; he called the Broncos O-line a bunch of wussies and went out on a limb saying the then 17-0 Patriots needed to be worried about the Chargers, not the other way around.  I actually enjoyed the fire and would like to have seen more of that this season.  Wade Phillips knows exactly what he is getting and the price seems right, the Cowboys might be a good fit for him.

Not a whole lot else going on right now. Nick Eatman has a nice sendoff for RW1. His exit kind of got lost in the T.O. tsunami.

Michael Irvin's reality show has picked the contestants for a shot at training camp with the Cowboys. 

The players are living in the Cotton Bowl locker rooms and training inside the stadium. They have been stripped of their cellphones, iPods, laptops and any other way of communicating with the outside world.

That's all for now. Feel free to add any links to other Cowboys stories or bring up topics for discussion in the comments.

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sounds like a pretty straight forward evaluation on Olshanski.....

Like the guy sez….Placing him next to Ware should undoubtedly loosen things up for him, and assist Ware…I always considered him on par with Canty/Spears as it is…I think we got great value in that contract he signed, and I look for him to a more toughness and grit to our D….I like his style…The dude’s Ukrainian for pete’s sake…Strong like Bull…

I can’t get enough of this clip now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw&playnext_from=PL&feature=PlayList&p=8FE31B49F6D5ECB6&playnext=1&index=30

by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 12, 2009 12:02 AM CDT reply actions  

LOL

and SMASH!!!

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 12, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

I was totally thinking of that clip before seeing that you put it up here.

YOU NO SAY UKRAINE IS WEAK!

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think

the comment about not having Merriman around is key. Just think about or DE’s last year without Ware. Just think about what our D could be if Spencer shows up.

by tyler2 on Mar 12, 2009 12:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Please show up this year Spencer!

If Greg Ellis wasn’t so cheap to keep around and if Spence could keep healthy, 93 would be all over it. Bust out the frohawk!

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stephen Jones speaks...
"You can’t point to one reason," said Stephen Jones, per Mac Engel of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "You take the whole picture and make the decision. It’s [salary] cap. It’s health. It’s age. His production. It’s everything."

LINK

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z

by Wmillion on Mar 12, 2009 12:31 AM CDT reply actions  

^^^^ Stephen Jones speaks....

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z

by Wmillion on Mar 12, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

about TO.

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z

by Wmillion on Mar 12, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Health?

He missed 1 game as a Cowboy. If were talking health concerns, Miles Austin’s name should be coming up.

"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker

by houseofprime on Mar 12, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

remember the year dallas went 13-3

and TO had an ankle injury, our O tanked

Still, it’s not just health, its not just personality
 its age + health + personality

by AustonianAggie on Mar 12, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was also,

about the time that our O-Line started its downhill slide too. Owens affected it for sure, he is a weapon of mass destruction, but that added to an offensive line that couldn’t block sunlight did us in at the end.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Mar 12, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Stephen's talking about his own heart palpitations

caused by the decision process of what to do with T.O.?

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm crossing my fingers, that Washington game TO missed we looked like

Campo’s Cowboys: completely and utterly helpless. First Campo game, season opener against philly, total emberassment.

by dcfanz on Mar 12, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah but at the same time he will not cost anything vs the cap if there is one in 2010

and you got to think there will be a new CBA, probably a more strict one too. I think jerry is also starting to feel the recession as well and was afraid to pay him the 9 mil he was due this season.

by Becho on Mar 12, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reality show

I wonder if it’ll be like watching that one scene from Jurassic Park where the goat gets fed to the T-Rex

by Turbo73 on Mar 12, 2009 1:06 AM CDT reply actions  

I might get bombed for this..

but the article on Roy Williams was pretty much dead-on. I think this guy went from hero to zero in slow motion and it still pains me somewhat. He did deserve better than the afterthought oh-by-the-way we released Roy Williams too send off he got. His first 3 years were phenomenal..

by Benthere on Mar 12, 2009 1:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Why did he deserve better?

He didn’t want to play hard, and never lived up to the contract he got. Good riddance.

He WAS good, when Woodson was still around…

by ChrisRichey on Mar 12, 2009 4:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't he only play one season with Woody?

Maybe it was two. He was still good after that.

Pour out some liquor for the homie T.O.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 12, 2009 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea...

Until Jeremy Shockey exposed his inability to cover… then it was all arm tackles and Horse collars from there. But to be fair when Roy was good he was damn good … but when he sucked…. I could feel the wind tunnel all the way in Atlanta.

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 12, 2009 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

So Long Roy!

Excuse making, no cover ability, out of position, ankle tackling former safety. I won’t miss him!

by Este on Mar 12, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

And then along came Santana Moss...

14-13 Redskins on Monday Night.

Sufferin’ succotash!

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Reeves the

Corner that night?

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Mar 12, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably.

But Roy was always out of position.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Go back and look at the

last drive in the first half of the Boys/Giants playoff game. Every pass was to the right and every pass was completed in front of or beside Reeves and Williams. It still sickens me to watch that drive

by cow_fanatic on Mar 12, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember that game because I watched it at my buddy's house

who is a Skins fan!

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that it was Roy

that got the sack on Mark Brunell that set up like a 3rd and 20 something. It looked like it was all over at that point and I thought Roy was great. It was never the same again.

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

by kameleon_o on Mar 12, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaron Glenn

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

by kameleon_o on Mar 12, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roy didn’t do well…true. But he did get taken out by the ref on the second TD lest we forget.

by Big50 on Mar 12, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's no longer

a football player. He’s just a guy who plays football for a living now. He hasn’t lit up a guy in years. His blitzes haven’t gone made it through the line of scrimmage for years and years. It seems his mellowing out could explain away his unwillingness to bring the lumber, but how does it explain his lack of instincts in coverage? I think that is from a lackadaisacal attitude on and off the field, especially film study and practicing technique.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he finds only a few offers at the minimum, and he just retires.

by Joey2zs on Mar 12, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Just a guy who plays football. Hopefully, he’ll regain his passion.

C’mon Texans, take a guy in!

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

He and Reeves

can reunite in H town. Not sure how that would help their secondary.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Mar 12, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see someone give him a chance.

Question is: Does he want that chance??

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

by kameleon_o on Mar 12, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed Joey2zs

For whatever reason (I’ve heard religion mentioned a few times), Roy Williams just seemed to lose his passion for the game. It ceased to become a priority for him, and it showed up in his off-season preparation, his film study, the type of shape he kept himself in and how he played the game. Football is a game of talent and passion. Very, very few guys can get by on talent alone.

Roy’s career started with a bang and then his flame slowly burned out. I have some serious concerns that Tony Romo is on a similar path, albeit for different reasons. I’m not trying to turn this into a Romo thread, but there are a few similarities worth noting. When was the last time Romo seemed to have fun playing football? Does Romo seem to be in the great shape he was in a few years ago? The season ended in December, and it is now March….has Romo been in Dallas even one day since he cleaned out his locker? Did Romo seem to care very much when the Cowboys lost at the end of 2008? I know many – perhaps most – guys still believe 100% in Tony Romo and that’s cool. I’m just not in that group right now. I hope I’m wrong.

Anyway, I wish Roy Williams good luck and I hope he finds a fulfilling life outside of football. I hold no animosity toward him. People change over time and Roy happened to change as a person just as he should have been entering the prime of his career.

by Cowboy Louie on Mar 12, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Romo and r

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 13, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry my computer was acting up.

Romo, MA, and RW have all been practicing together since the begining of this month, I doubt this is something new he is doing; he probably does this every offseason but is not going to advertise it. Scandrick and JJ have done so in recent interviews, I think by the time OTA’s start Romo is going to be very familiar with RW and MA in their new roles. Remember each player was given a homework list from the coaches on what they need to work on during the offseason.

The comments I made here are strickly in response to your concern over whether or not he was working in preparation towards next season.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 13, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

homework assignments ... I love it ... kudos to the coaching staff

Now, just keep the homework away from Fido and we’re all set.

by GalTex on Mar 13, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

the horse collar thing was a much bigger deal then people acknowledge

if those were still allowed, he’d probably be above average

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 12, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

They stripped him of his trademark.

And with Tai Streets and Todd Pinkston no longer playing, his intimidating presence around the league has dwindled.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 And change...

He got hurt really early on.

Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.

by AirforceBat on Mar 12, 2009 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

meh - i really dont understand the point of the article....

without bashing him – which would be easy – what could the Cowboys have done?? release him on a separate day?? call a press conference to thank Roy and announce his release??

i dont get it – he had a HUGE contract and his play for at LEAST the last 3-5 seasons did not merit the numbers and he got released…..he’s still young, he’s got more money than he’ll ever spend and now he can go sign wherever he wants and no doubt some other team will throw money at him

thanks for the 3 good years (2002-2004) but nobody really owes this guy anything

by McLovin9 on Mar 12, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

“The dude’s Ukrainian for pete’s sake…”

Meaning what exactly?? It’s not like Ukrainians have a history of being exceptional NFL players or something.

Hopefully being opposite of D. Ware will open things up for him and he can prosper.

by Cowboys4Life on Mar 12, 2009 2:56 AM CDT reply actions  

+1111

haha i was going to say that..

classic seinfeld

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Mar 12, 2009 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

New DE

In Russia, contract sign YOU.

by egtuna on Mar 12, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh lord

i honestly hope this is the final Yakov Smirnov joke during Olshansky’s career here.

by Joey2zs on Mar 12, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I lol'd

MOAR!

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Mar 12, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

+2222

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

by kameleon_o on Mar 12, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ukrainians have long been perceived to be very tough-hard nosed people. (as illustrated in the Seinfeld trailer)

even better example would be that Rocky Movie when he takes on that bad ass Russian (Dolph Lungren),

Or if you go back to the old WWF Solviet Russian Block days when they had that rock jawwed Ukrainian Nikolai Volkoff…….

by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 12, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dolph Lungren

“I must brreak you.”

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget that if we are metaphorically stereotyping this guy

that Igor was the name of Dr. Frankenstein’s lead assistant.

Dr. Frankenstein’s (Coach Wade’s?) mission was to create life (solid Defense/ST) from combining body parts (Brooking, M.Stewart, Coach Joe C, Sensabaugh, maybe even Polk and Battle) with lightning (Ware and Ratliff). Sure, he may have been playing god (Da King), but god created scientists, too! Without Igor, the process became more efficient.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

This just in ...

signing Igor was not the final piece to the Super Bowl puzzle.

by Elberraco on Mar 12, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

No

and that was my point. The “scoop” in the original post was merely stating the obvious …

by Elberraco on Mar 12, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's at least filling in the border.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems like Igor is going the way of the old Roy

And he looks pretty nasty.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

by ym on Mar 12, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Can you...

explain what you’re saying?

Are you comparing Igor to Roy Williams?

Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.

by AirforceBat on Mar 12, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know, I just read this:

2008 was a down year for Olshansky, his tackles were way down and he seemed to be playing in fear of being injured. Some games he was adequate, but in others he would disappear; when the Chargers played New Orleans he didn’t record a single tackle. He may have suffered some from Merriman’s absence as well; Merriman frequently drew the double team that loosened up the rest of the line but with Ware the Cowboy’s might see resurgence out of Olshansky. I don’t think he will ever get high sack numbers but should be solid against the run. He doesn’t get great penetration often, but neither is he blown off the line.

by ym on Mar 12, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

The main point is

that he’s playing in fear of being injured and suffered once Merriman went down, which is similar what happened to Roy. We’ll see what he’s able to do with Ware.

by ym on Mar 12, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't comment on the fear of injury thing

but I’m not suprised his play suffered when Merriam went down, Merriam is a 5-star player as a pass rusher, like Demarcus Ware, but not as fast

by AustonianAggie on Mar 13, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh my... Check this link out

www.igorshs.com/ Igor’s got his own line of protein drinks, supplements and gear. Hysterical.

by Boundforbeach on Mar 12, 2009 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

dude looks like a monster

he might turn out to be much better than Canty

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 12, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW, did you see Andre Smith running w/o his shirt on?

Now that’s brave. You can tell he’s been eating the jelly rolls.

by texstar on Mar 12, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahhhaaa

lol

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The iggles should trade up to get him to pair him along with the Andrews bros.

I can see the headline now: The City of Brotherly Fatties.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

He could even go on "The Biggest Loser".....

if his football career doesn’t take off huh? That was mean of me, I admit it.-lol

by texstar on Mar 12, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to Mayock and Co.

they practically tagged him that at the combine. Poor kid, but he’s gotta make his bed—or however that saying goes.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watch out Andre Smith is a good player., or was before he was suspended by Alabama

As soon as I saw him falling apart I started thinking, he might go to Dallas. He’s a guy with good game film, who’s falling out of the first round, to a team who’d like more talent on the Oline, because Flozel is getting up there in age — remember Flozel was another LT who was falling out of the 1st round

by AustonianAggie on Mar 12, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way he's falling outta the first.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Philly does have the fattest population in the country

so it would be appropriate him going there.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 12, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Is that true?

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know about now....

It changes yearly. One year it was Houston and one year it was Philly. I don’t know about now.

by texstar on Mar 12, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

the last time I was in Philly

it sure looked like it was true.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 13, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's sad that I know this...

But I read a recent study (in Men’s Health, maybe?) that had Wisconsin as the fattest state…

by AikmanNailedMySis on Mar 13, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely have the fattest coach

Reid is the only coach I’ve ever seen wear a snowsuit in Sept. He looks like he’s about to stroke out at any minute.

Wade’s not exactly svelte, but compared to that guy he looks like the “after” picture

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 12, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

cool tats too

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

#31/#38

Is he getting any attention as a FA?

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 12, 2009 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

haven't heard a word on that. i doubt it.

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Mar 12, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Igor Site

That’s great !! He looks like a killer. I hope its true that he’s nasty from time to time. We NEED that stuff on this team.

by Lobsterman on Mar 12, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I like that Dallas is shaking up the personalities on the team

and re-enforcing that this is Wade’s team.

If we had stayed with Canty, with Roy or TO, this team would have the same persona. I like Defensive players who are pushy and argumentative, hopefully he’ll bring what Marc Columbo brings to the Oline

by AustonianAggie on Mar 12, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

the DNA was corrupt

Jerry had to change it.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 12, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone wanna bet whose next?

The answer is obvious. Expensive, aging vet that bitches way too much.

Res firma mitescere nescit

by Fighter15 on Mar 12, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

no way Cowboys cut Ellis

until they get another proven pass rusher on the team.

Just going with Ware and Spencer is simply playing with fire.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 12, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we cut him, it's because he's crying about Spencer getting the majority of the snaps.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 12, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

he can cry all he wants

he’s not going anywhere until we find his replacement. In Wade’s scheme, 3 quality pass rushers are a must.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 12, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

not picking on you, but how do you know how Wade system diferentiates from lets say

Parcels or Belichick’s or others? do they go with 2 quality pass rushers only or need 4
otherwise you are absolutly correct: he is not going anyware until his replacement is found.
Nevertheless, if we assume his replacement is Spencer, who will be the 3rd quality pass rusher?

by dcfanz on Mar 12, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who else do we have on the roster? Gotta keep him.

Ware is a beast, Spencer has not shown the ability to take over a full season, and if either needs a breather, who do you use to spell them with. We really need 4 OLB to keep everyone healthy.

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 12, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ellis only counts like 2 mil, I think.

That’s pretty cheap for a veteran pass rusher. I wouldn’t cry if he left, though.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 12, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stop thinking and know...

According to Todd Archer, who’s the least idiotic mediot at DMN (rousing endorsement, I know)

And then there’s Greg Ellis. He is in the last year of his contract and will count $6.25 million against the cap. If the Cowboys cut him, then they would save $4.15 million because he is guaranteed $1.5 million this year as part of a renegotiation the Cowboys did in 2007.

You can be pretty much assured that Ellis becomes trade bait on Draft Day. A high OLB pick signals the end of that marriage.

Pesonally, I don’t see much chance he’s coming back, though he still has been productive. The question is …“Is he worth the trouble?”

Based on the T.O. release, I’d say Jerry is putting the kibosh on all debate. If you hear a peep out of him, he’s gone. Yeah, I know it reduces his trade value (‘cause everyone else in the league knows this), but he’s worth something right now. He’s worth zip, nada, bupkiss next.

Res firma mitescere nescit

by Fighter15 on Mar 12, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow. I didn't know he cost that much.

He’s gone for sure now, IMO. He’ll be sleeping with the fishes after the draft.

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

by kameleon_o on Mar 12, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yuck

$6.25 mil sure is an ugly cap number.

The top ranked 3-4 OLB’s are all slotted for the 1st round. The exception is Barwin, I’ve seen him ranked all over the place.

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 12, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

The debate is...

Whether you can find his production, albeit limited, for less.

Not from a vet.

But a draft pick seems a bit steep. Whether you like it or not, Bobby Carpet-in-her gets a chance to fulfil replacing both Ellis and Burnett.

Res firma mitescere nescit

by Fighter15 on Mar 12, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mind Carp getting a shot to prove everyone wrong

It would be great if it works out. If it doesn’t, we still have a backup and ST player.

Until I read Ellis’ cap number I was pretty sure he would be here another year. Now it makes more sense to try to move him in a trade with one of the 3-4 teams. Regardless, they still need to find quality backups at both OLB and ILB.

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 12, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy cow!

Nice find, Fighter. $4.15 mil sounds pretty tempting to rid themselves of Mr. Unhappy and give somebody else, somebody with untapped potential, a shot.

Can’t go into a season saying “what-if” in regards to injuries for our young OLBs. I think all of us would prefer some other option than Ellis. Hopefully, Da King and Co. are leaning that way as well.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 13, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

cut him

Sign up Jason Taylor, if he can pass the physical. Draft another one..

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z

by Wmillion on Mar 14, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know anything about CB Lucas that the panthers cut?

Is he worth a look from the Cowboys maybe as insurance just in case our corners get hurt again this season? All I ever knew him for was for his busted face when his own WR steve smith punched him…

by VTcowboys16 on Mar 12, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Flozell?

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Mar 12, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lucas is going to get a chance to start somewhere

We need another CB, but a cheap one who doesn’t have a problem coming in as 4th on the depth chart.

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 12, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Profootballtalk.com......

is now saying that the Cardinals are shopping Anquan Bolden. Our luck, the Giants and Eagles will get him.

by texstar on Mar 12, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Giants and Eagles would be the two lead candidates

I don’t know that he helps the Giants a huge amount— I guess he’s a replcament for Toomer there, but they’re still without a deep threat. He would make a lot of sense for the Eagles, though, if the price is right.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Mar 12, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's looking more and more like......

Plaxico may have some more problems on the horizon as well. He’s a total goof head. That being said, I was thinking that they’d try and get Boldin to replace Plaxico. IMO Boldin is good enough to be a number 1 in a lot of offenses.

by texstar on Mar 12, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tennessee

Should do whatever it takes to get Boldin. They have a goodt DL rotation even without Big Al (signed Haye) and WR is by far their biggest need. But they simply don’t seem to place much value on the position. It’s been a glaring need for years and they don’t use premium picks or money to address the situation. And they always come up short, b/c it’s tough not to have a slip-up when you try to grind out a 3 point win every week.

by Blammo on Mar 12, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Colts have to be a sleeper.

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‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
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Is my mother the greatest or what?"
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by octoberty on Mar 12, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody else pumped about the Eagles' LT situation?

They’re reportedly now looking at Orlando Pace, who is somewhat better than the Eagles’ current options at LT, which are the following:

1) Convert Shawn Andrews. Leave a gaping hole at RG. Abandon the possibility of a terrifying All-Andrews right side of the line. Hope Shawn can pass block.

2) Convert Todd What’s-His-Face from G. Leave yourself thin at G. Hope that Todd What’s-His-Face who has never shown the ability to play LT can block Demarcus Ware.

3) Ask Matt Schobel to gain 85 pounds, become a decent football player, and develop quick feet and phone booth athleticism.

So now you’d be adding option 4, which would be:

4) Sign Orlando Pace. Hope his injury days (see: every single week of the last 2 seasons) are behind him and that he is not an aging, worse version of Flozell Adams. Go into Week 1 with two starting OTs who walk with a limp.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Mar 12, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I know I am

didn’t Osi Omimuri get 6 sacks against Shawn Andrews in the game he started?

by AustonianAggie on Mar 12, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it was Winston Justice

who was fairly highly touted coming out of USC a few years back, and who the Iggles selected in the 2nd a few years back, and who I believe is next on the depth chart now that Thomas is gone, unless they do something.

by DannyWhite on Mar 12, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I couldn't believe

Osi is dominating Justice and Philly couldn’t even have a running back chip to help him out. I thought Reid was supposed to be a genius.

by illcowboy on Mar 13, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember the Dallas media ripping the Cowboys( I know they always do)

Over having an opportunity to draft Winston Justice and them picking someone else. I think even Goselin was ripping our draft and praising the Eagles draft. Then he lines up against the Giants and gives up 6 sacks in one game. I remember thinking how sweet a feeling.

by squidlo97 on Mar 13, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

What kind of contract could Pace command at this point?

Anyone care to venture a guess? Incentive-laden I’m sure. If the guy can stay healthy, which is a big IF, can he still play at a high level?

by Boundforbeach on Mar 12, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

combine results archive

I was looking to do a comparison study on players going back ten years or so using their college production, and combine results. Problem is I can’t find any sites with an archive of combine results. Any ideas out there?

by rdoubina on Mar 12, 2009 6:33 PM CDT reply actions  

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=CB&draftyear=2009&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC

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by kameleon_o on Mar 12, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

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