Pro Days, rumors and other Cowboys tidbits
by Dave Halprin on Mar 14, 2009 2:00 AM CDT
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PrintThe Cowboys want to spend a little more time with Ohio State LB Marcus Freeman.
Senior linebacker Marcus Freeman was also one of the day's stars, improving his 40 from 4.67 (combine) to 4.50-4.55.
''I talked to a lot of coaches and a lot of them said I definitely improved my draft stock today,'' Freeman said.
Freeman has workouts scheduled with the Miami Dolphins and Dallas Cowboys, but said if the Browns come calling, ''I'll be up in Cleveland.''
Another linebacker they're talking to is Connor Barwin.
The Dallas Cowboys, San Francisco 49ers, Washington Redskins and the Oakland Raiders were just a few of the teams that he had formal interviews with at the NFL Combine.
The scouts were also at the University of South Florida Pro Day and one Cowboy player was already on the field.
To all of the Cowboy fans out there, Mike Jenkins was on the field and looked in top shape. He is in Tampa relaxing.
The scouts also showed up at Oklahoma State's Pro Day and made a trip to DeMarcus Ware's old school, Troy.
More stuff after the jump.
It's the silly season. We made the "rumors list" of teams interested in Anquan Boldin and Derrick Mason at ESPN Insider. Want to know how easy it is to make the list? Calvin Watkins said this recently on the DMN blog:
With the Cowboys trading Anthony Henry to Detroit for Jon Kitna, it might be worth taking a look at Lucas as a replacement.
And ESPN Insider says this:
A rumor has sprung up via the Dallas Morning News that the Dallas Cowboys might take a look at free agent cornerback Ken Lucas.
So we made that list, too!
But Jerry says he's in no rush for a new WR, vet or in the draft.
JJT on Killa's prospects of a return.
He's been talking to the Chiefs, Redskins and Eagles. The Cowboys have told his agent they'd like to have him back, if he wants to play for the veteran minimum of $745,000.
Article on compensatory picks. Thanks Jacques Reeves and Houston Texans.
Ron Springs' long, tragic story has recently taken a small positive step.
The former Dallas Cowboys running back remains what is considered "semi-comatose" at Medical City Dallas Hospital, but his response to stimulation from physical therapy has been noticeably improved.
Electroencephalography (EEG) results showed "more positive brain activity" when Springs was tested shortly after Christmas, according to his wife.
"Ron is more aware. He's opening his eyes," said Adriane Springs, who visits her husband every day. "I'll walk into the hospital room, and he'll turn his head and look at me."
But the doctors say don't read too much into it, yet. Meanwhile, lots of Cowboys turned out for a bowling tournament for The Ron Springs and Everson Walls Gift for Life Foundation.
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first :-)~
excellent to hear they’re showing interest in OLB-Conner Barwin- my personal favorite(if available)
I do believe they’re interested in LB-Freeman, and looks to be a pretty good ILB prospect, possibly top of the 4th.I really don’t want to test the football gods with another OSU LB.
I am sure they were at USF checking on ILB prospect Tyrone McKenzie, another nice looking prospect for rd 4.
They were checking out CB/FS Sherrod Martin at the Troy Pro Day…3rd round pick ?..hmm…..possibly little 5’ 6" 170lb Kennard Burton WR/PR for urfa considerations…
I’m quite suprised that they were at Okla St Pro Day, TE- Pettigrew ??? …lol…unless they’re checkin out this CB Jacob Lacey- a projected 7th rounder, and very slight of build though….5’10" 175lbs………He’s quick though, new slot guy ?
12/13/08: A solid player on Oklahoma State’s putrid defense, Jacob Lacey broke up 13 passes, qualifying for the All-Big XII Second Team.
Ken Lucas a little too expensive I believe……Let’s kick the tires of Baltimore’s retreads McCalister, Rolle, and Ivy..
Boldin and Mason, huh ? We have a better chance of signing Torry Holt..
Yeah...
For some reason Ohio State LB and D-line prospects kind of leave a sour note in my mouth.
Is there a dominant Ohio State defensive lineman or linebacker out there in the NFL?
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Arguably
Will Smith and AJ Hawk, but I guess they’re not really “dominant” especially with Hawk’s bad year and Smith’s banned supplement suspension.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
http://www.nfl.com/players/willsmith/profile?id=SMI805040
Ohio State
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Yeah...
He’s been pretty good, I wouldn’t call dominant but very very good.
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Barwin will be long gone by 51, unfortunately
That’s what cracks me up about seeing Washington working him out.
They might have a shot at him with the 44th pick, or at least have a platform to move up
higher into the early 2nd, where he’s likely to go.
But they burned that pick to rent Jason Taylor for half a season.
What a dumb organization.
Yeah, Freeman looks like a WILB, somebody to groom behind Brooking
He’s too short to play on the edge, and a little too light. If he showed rush skills, I could see him
there. Lamar Woodley is short, but he was an established 3-4 edge rusher coming out of Michigan.
Freeman has ideal size for inside, especially if his speed is legit.
More writing on Bobby Carpenter’s wall, IMO.
I'm really thinking that Barwin is the guy to go after.
He’s the best value. But I have a feeling that New England is gonna be all over that. They’ve got 4 of the first 58 selections, and they have a need at OLB.
Pour out some liquor for the homie T.O.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 14, 2009 6:52 AM CDT reply actions
+1
Barwin would be my dream pick, but I can’t see him lasting even long enough to trade up to nab him.
Also agree that NE will get him, with their wealth of 2nd round picks, they’d have to make a big mistake in order to miss out on him, and it’s hard to think that would happen.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 15, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought NE from the instant you first mentioned him.
He has way too many similarities to what they molded Vrabel into to not be their pick.
Of course, I’m still counting (good faith) on Spencer to at least pan out at OLB and GM Jerry already has a sucky record at ‘tweener backers who can’t find a position so I don’t know about a guy who might be asked to fill ILB if Spencer actually pans out at OLB. Great value pick though. I’d be cautiously optimistic about Barwin. Emphasis on cautiously because of Jerry’s failed linebacker experiments.
Let’s assume Barwin is a solid value pick. Could Spencer bulk up enough to be a solid 3-4 end?
to be honest with you..I can see Barwin becoming a 3-4 ILB as well...more in the mold of strongside like James though..but can line up besides him and flourish.
he has the toughness, speed, intangles, measurables, and athleticism that translate to a Ray Lewis ILB type player…, of course it would take a year or so to get the position down pat, but he learned DE overnight, and has the intelligence to learn the intricacies of being a great LB…inside or out.. We are afforded the time to do it……since nobody we draft will be starting this year….regardless…this team needs three top quality pass rushers, and would prefer 4 that can bring it every play, every down…you can never ever have enough pass rushing LB’s in a 3-4……I would be all for drafting 3 LB’s this year if I knew they’d upgrade the overall LB corp….We are one Ware, Ellis, or James injury from being in severe trouble……..
Barwin will a strong player in this league…maybe not rookie season..but give this two years to learn his position, he’s going to Hawaii..
NO…Anthony Spencer won’t be a base 3-4 DE………there is nothing wrong with him being part of a rotation like he is…we NEED Ellis’s replacement…and Barwin is by far the best option in that 30-60 range….
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 14, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Mar 19 is Barwins pro day in Cincy
I want to see what type of numbers come out then …….
Ken Lucas
Just turned 30, sign him to play free and leave scandrick at Nickle CB?
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
I seriously doubt we sign him...
Ball will be the 4th CB and I’m sure we will draft one. I wouldn’t expect to us to sign any FA CB’s, especially Lucas who will be a little too expensive.
there are cheaper, comparable CB's out there...
In fact, the signing of Carr in Baltimore, all but assures me they aren’t in the running to retain Cory Ivy…He’s be a low cost, effective 4th CB……We need and will sign a veteran CB before this season begins…count on that….
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
I think Corey Ivy would be a perfect fit in terms of ability, age, experience, and cost.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 15, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Darrius Heyward-Bey
This guy put down a 4.25 in the 40 – WR, 1st round Prospect – it’s amazing that a player is coming out this year with a sub-4.3 40. And it was amazing to me last year when that RB did it; it seems like every year now theres at least one guy coming out with a sub4.3 40. If this had been going on for 10 years, 10 teams may have a guy that fast.
When I think about a Santana Moss, or a Chris Alexander and how they might abuse a Roy Williams, it makes more sense to have a guy like Scandrick man the safety position. Maybe though, a safety who takes great angles won’t get burned by these great speedsters
by AustonianAggie on Mar 14, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions
I really like scandrick and got to see him play live in college and think he will pan out to be our number 2 cb after newman and then eventually take over as the number 1 so i think it would be a bad call to move him to saftey were chances are he will get hurt with big oh jacobs coming at him like a train. i say we make a play at a quality saftey in the draft and take our chances theres a lot of good safteys coming out in the 2nd round. and 3rd like Louis Delmas, Patrick Chung, William Moore. and My fav Chip Vaughn. idk though maybe he put on some pounds and become the next Ed Reed :-) can only hope right?
Ohio St. WR's is the way to go
Which is why I would love to snag Robiskie in the 3rd round.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Yeah, Somebody will reach for Robiske in the late 2nd
No biggie. I don’t think he’s worth it that high. He’s polished, but he’s also not
going to get any faster. If Dallas snags a WR high he’ll need to have deep speed.
The only WR scenario I can envision is if one of the WRs projected in the late
1st, very early 2nd drops.
If Robiske had wheels, he’d be up there. But he doesn’t.
he ran a 4.5 at the combine.
and had the best hands and routes at the combine. he’s a true second rounder and will have a LONG productive career as a 70-90 reception a year receiver in the NFL. he’ll be in the league long after a lot of the high ceiling first round “wheels” guys have disappeared.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
Fine
Dallas has bigger needs at 51 than WR.
I would just worry about taking the best football player available
and he may be.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Joey Galloway just signed with the Pats
Given what they already have, and what they will have after the draft, Vegas oughtta put them at even money to win the Super Bowl.
Pour out some liquor for the homie T.O.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 14, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions
You gotta be frigging kidding me.
Joey Galloway to be their #3 WR??? Wow….
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you gotta hand it to em.....
they sure know how to plug up holes very effectively imo and w/o giving up the farm to do it.
Yeah, give the devil/Bellichek his due
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Yeah...
They had alot of money to spend after the Cassel trade.
Galloway will be interesting to say the least.
He’s getting pretty old, but if he still has deep speed he’ll be valuable.
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Moss, Welker, and Galloway.
That’s a lineup. Is Brady healthy though??
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BTW, just for fun I was reading the DC.com blog....
and a guy was proposing trading Barber and someone else for Bolden. Got me to thinking….Would you do it?
Raf's not as impressed by Bolden as others.
Joyner’s metrics say that Bolden isn’t very good at beating elite CB’s. He benefits a lot from playing opposite Fitz.
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I don't really have an opinion.....
I was just throwing out the scenario because there’s not a whole lot going on Cowboy wise.
Oh, I know.
I just know that Raf posted a couple of articles about this back at BSR.com. K.C. Joyner’s stats showed that Bolden didn’t do very good against the good corners. Personally, I don’t know that I would trade for him but I like him better than RW. I just don’t trust that guy.
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I would trade Barber to Cleveland for NT Shaun Rodgers in a heartbeat..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 14, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The only problem I have with that...
Is you have a team setup and you are trying your best to get people who want to play football and you’re going to trade for a guy who is notorious for not going all out and can generally only be count on for about sixty percent of the snaps.
And I love UT guys, but at least with Barber I know that he’s going to go all out on every play.
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That's a good point.
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Go ahead and continue to undervalue Barber.
I wouldn’t trade a special back for a lazy DT who would be a backup here.
Pour out some liquor for the homie T.O.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 14, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I third it (?)
I know it’s just a hypothetical debate, but I’m still surprised so many are so willing to get rid of MB3 for other options. He’s still a beast at wearing down defenses and finding the end zone.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 15, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
That's the truth...
It’s amazing how he has become an afterthought to Dallas fans now.
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by AirforceBat on Mar 14, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
There's nothing special about him (3.9 ypc)...I happen to think both Felix and Choice are better..as would several experts that make those determinations.
lazy DT dominated at 3-4 NT and was consensus All Pro at the position, and would be the best possible solution to getting Ratliff in a rotation, and moved outside to DE where he belongs……You take from an overcrowded strength (RB) and fill in a weakness (NT) ….simple way of sustaining excellence..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 14, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
So.....
After a season that you’ve had to play with Brad Johnson, and toe injury… you would think there isn’t anything worthwhile in him?
In 2001 and 2004 LT ran for under 4 yards per carry.
In 04 Portis ran for 3.8 yards after being traded to Washington.
Now maybe you are right, maybe there is nothing special about him anymore, but that’s alot to judge after one year that he had alot of injuries around him as well as injuries to him.
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Overcrowded strength and a weakness.
The overcrowded strength has 2 players with a history of 8 games played and injuries(Felix) No proven track record. Except of course the guy you want to trade.
I will agree with you in that they overpaid him but a hard nose, hard worker, lunch pail guy, with proven shortyardage and nose for the end zone is actually a great assett to this team. No he is not special in terms of Emmitts, LTs, BSs of the world but he is a gamer with heart. I would rather over pay a guy like that then a primma donna any day. I gaurantee you those several experts you want to ask would also tell you 22 Barbers would beat the crap out of 22 TOs. This team needs heart and he is one of the few guys who have it in abundance.
The percieved weakness has a Probowl last year and is a dominant pass rusher.
I understand this infatuation with Rat at end and he would be good but his best matchup for him and the team is at Nose. He had numerous sacks lots of pressure and his ability to pull double teams allowd Bradie James 8 sacks tends to lead me to the conclusion we got him in the right spot. The fact that in known pass situations in critical times he was left there instead of moving to end tells me that Wade thinks so too. I would like a short yardage plugger at NT to spell Rat but Im not one of those guys who thinks we are hurting our team with him at Nose or that we are imrpoved if he moves to end.
Our D struggles have looked to be a combination of poor tackling at bad times, poor lane disipline, and good ol head up your ass syndrome also known as the brain infarct.
Haha...
Definitly alot of “head up ass” syndrome.
I just think its too early to write off someone that had a bad year and is still young.
Marshall Faulk averaged 3.0 yards a carry his third year in the league.
Now I’m not saying that Barber is anywhere close to Faulk, but I think that there has been an overreacting both ways on all three runningbacks.
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by AirforceBat on Mar 15, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't want to write him off 'cause of his bad year in any way
I’m simply wondering “do we have enough carries to go around??” That’s it.
Say it works out like this: MB3 – 15 carries. Choice – 10 carries. Felix – 5 carries. That would be an average of 5 more carries a game than we had all last year anyway. We all know that we’re probably going to run it more anyway but how much more?? I don’t think anyone wants to shut down our passing game. I just don’t see enough carries to go around. Even the Steelers, a team most consider to be a smash mouth running team, threw it more than they rushed and didn’t average 30 carries a game.
It’s not that I want to trade MB3, or don’t think he’s a good RB. I just don’t see how we’re going to get these 3 RB’s on the field enough to make good use of them and if MB3 is getting 15 carries or so a game is that enough for a guy that makes as much money as he does?? I don’t think those are unreasonable questions.
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It's kinda funny that by my simple question
about Barber that I opened up a whole debate. Kinda funny huh? Anyway, I like Barber but this is just another example of Jerry overpaying for guys that he likes which in turn ends up hurting us long term in signing/re-signing other guys. I think a lot of the reason that Jerry spent so much to keep Barber was the fact that he is a fan favorite-which in turn puts back more money in Jerry’s pockets. Don’t get me wrong, I like Barber but IMO we over-paid for him
Yeah I get ya...
That was more a response to cowboysrnumba1, who said that ther isn’t anything special about him after one year.
I understand what you’re saying too, and I kind of agree.
I also think that this comes down to Jason Garrett being creative with his offense.
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by AirforceBat on Mar 15, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.....
I still remember the Arizona game where he ran that incredible TD run. The problem with Jerry is he doesn’t seem to learn from past mistakes of over-paying for guys. I don’t know that he will ever learn.
Just in Jerry's defense...
He really was in a bad spot, Barber actually had a nice little piece of leverage.
The thing about rookies, is that you don’t know anything about them.
So if Barber doesn’t sign, you go into the season with nothing proven in the backfield.
Overpaid… sure.
But hindsight is 20/20
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by AirforceBat on Mar 15, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.....
and I have to admit when they drafted both Felix and Choice, I was saying why the heck are you wasting two draft picks on RB? Show what little I know-lol
What gys also forget is no MBIII then no Felix.
We go with a workhorse type back and not gamble on a slash type. We would have traded up for Mendanhall.
Barber was already being paid the tender price, Jerry didn't need to sign him long term till during or after this past season...
then he would have realized how damn good Felix and Choice were, and there is no way in hell Barber would have gotten the same contract…no way at all….we could’ve franchised him like Cassel, then pulled a pre draft day trade for a late1st rounder, early 2nd at least , as this is an overall weak class of RB’s and Barber is probably better than all of them…but it’s all too late now..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 15, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
That's completely hindsight though man.
Barber was holding out.. and you don’t KNOW anything in the NFL.
And quite honestly as much as I think Felix Jones and Tashard Choice are going to be very good/great NFL RB’s we don’t know how “damn good” they are going to be either.
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Barber wasn't holding out...He was restricted fee agent...If he held out, he would again be a restricted free agent the next year...
Canty was also a restricted FA, and he played out his contract…..which is what Jerry should have done with MBIII….
look…i’m done discussing this…nobody is going anywhere, this was all a case scenario of possible trades…and imo…Barber holds the most trade value of players we can get rid of in the future due to overwhelming depth at the position, and production per dollar quotiant………I’m glad we have all three right now…IF in the near future Jerry decides to cut bait with the 3 headed attack…rest assured it will be Barber before the other two……………
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 15, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct me if Im wrong but wouldnt have we traded up for Mendanhall if we werent a lock with MBIII.
Having the bruiser allowed us to go with Felix.
+100
I’m really anxious to see what Garrett comes up with.
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Yeah, I guess
we’ll see if Garrett is really “the Genius” or if this was another hyped up media ploy by Jerry.
Look....I'm not evaluating MBIII, I am going on what I've seen of our incoming star RB's...
I said before he was signed long term, and before last seasons results that MBIII will be, and should be the odd man out in the near future..I already knew Felix Jones was better before we even drafted him….The bonus was getting an exceptional back in Choice, who now makes MBIII not so special anymore…..If we keep all three backs over the course of the next 5 years, i’ll be shocked…I’ll be happy, but it’s not fiscally sound to spend over 10 million on your backfield…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 15, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
You
knew that Felix jones was going to be better?
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Send Jerry...
your crystal ball please.
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Numba1 was Felix's #1 cheerleader
I can vouch for that. He was all about getting Felix. Turned out to be a pretty astute call.
I was against taking a RB in the 1st round, personally. But I’m not complaining now.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 15, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember arguing with him about
RB’s. He was a big Felix fan.
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I was a big Felix fan too...
But you always think someone is going to be good.
Nobody knows anything when it comes to drafting, if they did then there would never be a bust.
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YES...I was touting him as the best RB in the draft last season..Right here on this site....
and was the biggest advocate of his skillset, and should be our first pick…, been watching him since his freshmen year….and felt he was more dynamic than DMac…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 15, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
To follow that up....Felix Jones has shown me in 48 touches that he's going to be one of the best ever to wear this Cowboys jersey....It's just a matter of time..He is a bigger version of Tony Dorsett...
You can mark that down and show it back to me in 3 years, we’ll see where we stand with that prediction…
We haven’t seen nothing yet………that average of his is no fluke…He’s steadily remained between 7-9 yards a carry the past 500+ carries, I don’t care what level you play, SEC, NFL…to do that over that period of time is phenominal, Barry Sanders-esque…
He should, and WILL be starting game 1 this season…..and if he gets less than 15 touches in any game, i’m personally flying to Dallas to slap Garrett in the face. With TO gone, Felix Jones now becomes our best Playmaker…He should be used exactly how Reid uses Brian Westbrook, and how Vermiel & Martz used Marshall Faulk (the two best comparisons out there) He should be on the field 80% of the plays….RB, split, slot….whatever it takes….get him the ball…..
btw..I began following Emmit Smith’s football career at Escambia High School, then as a Florida Gator…and said if we get a chance to draft this kid, we better do it, I begged and pleeded with the TV, praying that Jerry would move up slightly to draft him… We pulled it off……because I seen a special something in him, and regardless of what the critics had said about his lack of speed…I knew he’d be a special RB…..I know talent when i see it….and I’ve seen alot of talent in my days….trust.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 15, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Heck...since i'm here tooting my own horn around here.......
I also made several arguments that DeSean Jackson will be the best WR/Return Specialist from last years draft.(which we could have had at #28, and I was not a big advocate of Mike Jenkins…btw)
And I also claimed the Dominique Rodgers Cromartie was the best CB available prior to the draft as well.
I think those assessments are also looking pretty good right about now..
That’s all for now…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 15, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
MBIII and Choice will have another 6 touches together as a reciever and Felix will get another 10 touches.
We went though 2 RBs last year so it was good we have 3. My fear is there needs to be more heart on this team. MBIII definitely provides that.
Yes he does show heart....
hopefully he is over the T.O. cut cause he was upset about it. Has anyone heard anything? I may be making something out of nothing but I found it kinda odd that Romo, Witten, and Felix were with Jerry instead of Barber. I know that Barber is shy but you would think he would be there instead of Felix.
I think she's talking about some award ceremony in Arkansas for Jerry. They were there.
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correct kameleon....
I didn’t know that it was an awards show though.
I think Jerry was being honored as "Arkansan of the Year"
Something to do with Easter Seals?? Maybe it’s not technically an award. I don’t know.
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Which brings me back to my earlier
comment….. I may be making something out of nothing but don’t you find it kinda odd that Romo,Witten, and Felix were there instead of Romo, Witten, and Barber? I mean those are your 3 main leaders on offense. I’m probably grasping at straws, but I guess after Barber came out and more or less said he didn’t like that they cut T.O., I found it kinda odd.
I thought about that as well....
It’s just sometimes those quiet types are the ones to be scared of if you know what I mean.
NE knows how to build a winner...loved every move they made thus far....and still have 5 outta the top 60 picks...geeeeeeeez
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 14, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Those picks are what gets me.
How they HELL do they keep coming up with so many picks??
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As much as I dislike Belichek....
the guy is a genius.
crazy huh..
They will find a way to stock pile so for next year.. Question-How do you go undefeated in the regular season and then have a top 10 pick the draft that year? Man, they just get it.. Mayo is a beast..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
NE
They just make common sense moves. Everyone trying to find sleepers they just look for good football players via the draft and free agency.. Because they win they can convince players to come there for less to make it work..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
Jenkins
Like I said in one of my posts. Mike Jenkins will make the pro bowl in 2 years. He will surpass Henry’s production this year.
by beautifultyrant on Mar 14, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions
Why?
What did he do this year better than Henry? He sometimes did a solid job on opponents’ 4th receiver – as Henry did on #2’s. He certainly is not anywhere near Scandrick in terms of coverage ability. Then, he has a deion-like fear of contact despite being a big CB. His fear of contact will make him a huge liability in run support if he becomes the starter opposite TNew.
by JimmyJohnson on Mar 14, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
it was a joke
obviously mike jenkins was barely on the field this year
but i do believe he will be better next year than henry was this year
he did have that one pick 6 against eli………..
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
We need to clear this thing up on Mike Jenkins
He has no fear of contact. He had a giant brain fart against the Giants and got caught in between. That one image is stuck in everybody’s head.
Look at his college tape. Look at the lick he laid on Earnest Graham. The guy just forgot where he was on one play. Dude can tackle. Everyone is making him out to be Deion over there and it’s not accurate.
It’s the same way that everyone thinks Hamlin can’t tackle, because he had a horrible game against Baltimore. No one is going to confuse either of these guys for Troy Polamalu, but it’s not as bad as everyone is making it out to be.
Pour out some liquor for the homie T.O.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 14, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Mike got some playing time early when the injury bug hit and more playing time late in the season. He seemed to progress month to month. The guy is going to be a player. Great size speed and hips. Everyone with all these infatuations with all of these old castoffs. I worry alot about Lucas because 30 year old CB that can still cover dont get cut because of 2.5 cap number. Cover corners are coveted. I think Carolina has seen signs of slippage and cut bait.
If Mike Jenkins doesnt get on the field because of has beens then he will never develope. Lets take our lumps early and and reap rewards in Dec. I realize thats a new concept for us but for those of us that remember the SB years it pretty dam cool.
+2
Look at film of him in other games. While he’s not a “stud” tackler, he is surely no Deion either.
Everyone chill, Jenkins will be fine.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
+3 Totally agree
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Count me as one who thinks he will dominate soon.
Now that Henry is gone, Jenkins will get more time covering the big WR’s. He’s primed for a big year.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 15, 2009 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
off topic
the Cutler/McDaniel feud interests me for a lot of reasons:
1. From a coach cupcake perspective — Wade takes incessant abuse for being too soft. We may be seeing what its like when the HC is too hard. McDaniels is 32, and he’s got a lot of throw weight. And he’s throwing it around. This is what the haters in the Metroplex tell us we should want.
The guy is trying to play it Jimmy Johnson style, but he’s coming off like Bill Belichick — the Cleveland edition.
His handling of the Cutler scenario so far borders on malpractice. He bungled the attempted trade. He didn’t get the guy he wanted in Cassell. He could get Cutler back, but it appears Jay will attempt to pout his way out of town.
And by failing to close the Cassell sale, he’s in a position where he may be stuck starting his career with a guy like Matthew Stafford or Mark Sanchez.
Now, it’s likely that McDaniel will stick with his QB and they’ll try to make the best of it. And a lot of the press is telling Cutler to suck it up and play. But it’s clear from the activity that MCDANIELS isn’t happy with his QB, even more than the other way around.
And he’s learned the hard way that Bill the Mentor is cold blooded. He could have helped Josh and wound up with Denver’s #1, but he took Scott Pioli’s deal instead.
Welcome to the big leagues young man. Belichick stopped being your friend and started being your rival the minute you left the building.
McDaneils will get a long leash in Denver, but he’s looking more like Eric Mangini at the moment than his old coach.
No, that's just not accurate
while he may be guilty (and I think he is) of mishandling the perception of a trade offer, he hasn’t shown any “heavy handedness” in his dealing with Cutler.
The real problem is that this is exactly what people worried about with Cutler coming into the NFL. He is petulant, moody and immature. His inconsistent rigor around treating his diabetes has also got to be troubling.
Let’s not forget that Jimmy Johnson’s relationship with Aikman started out on the wrong foot with the untimely addition of Johnson’s former QB Steve Walsh. The difference is that Aikman played cool, stepped it up and made Walsh a nobody. Cutler’s reaction, “that’s it, I’m selling my house!”. My take? Stupid idiot walking.
To use the current Broncos example as a context for why Wade Phillips hasn’t won anything of consequence…with multiple teams…using the same unwavering Winnie the Pooh coaching style…EVER…is ridiculous and I wholly reject it.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
You know what is funny?
McDaniels has won just as much as Winnie and Bum combined.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
McDaniels...
hasn’t won jack.
He hasn’t coached a NFL game yet as a head coach.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 15, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
And he’s still as exquisitely irrelevant as Winnie.
Get it now?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
You're
really laughing out loud?
That really wasn’t that funny.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 15, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
It kinda was...
Don’t take it personal.
;-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
what's inaccurate?
McDaniels bungled the deal. You don’t play games with your starting QB unless you have his replacement lined up.
That’s the point. He’s exactly what people say Dallas needs, a tough as nails coach. He may be great but he looks too clever by half. And that’s it. The point as about Daniels and getting what you wish for.
Where do you get that?
He hasn’t coached a down and you’re calling him tough as nails?
Did I miss a fanshot or did you create that image on your own?
McDaniels whiffed on the trade, no doubt. But you say he is “too hard”. I’m still not sure where you are deriving that from…
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Ah, the grinding of familiar axes
A winnie the pooh style,
that his dad used.
that Bud Grant used
that Tony Dungy used.
Real cupcakes, all of them.
4 coaches...maybe a 60+ Head Coaching Seasons between them...and one SUPER BOWL
again, that would be 1, even in binary form.
I appreciate your affirmation of my point.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
If you want to whip it out against Raf.....
Then your last name better be Holmes.
You are sarcastic and petulant, but that is beside the point.
You do not take context into account and use excellent writing skills to mask this fact.
The Aikman/Cutler comparisons are misleading. When JJ was riding Troy like a rented mule the very platform (the World Wide Web) on which you are attempting to bait Raf with was born the year Aikman was drafted.
What was your cell phone number in 1989? How many 24 hour sports networks were there?
Who was your satellite provider?
The point is that if we had the same all encompassing coverage in ’91 that we do now perhaps your comparison would be apt.
McDaniel has won the same amount of NFL games as I have. Another fact that needs to be contextualized.
Sarcastic? maybe...
Petulant? :-) Never.
In your rush to defend (who knew that it had come to this, but okay) the earlier post most of which, by the way, is still groundless, you yourself lost sight of the real thrust of the thread. As a show of kindness on my part, I’ll restate them for you;
Raf said, “The guy is trying to play it Jimmy Johnson style”. I then simply tagged onto HIS relativistic use of coaches to challenge the point. No good retort showed up. Remember, I didn’t make the JJ comparison, I just rode the horse that he tied to the hitching post. Said differently, you want context? THAT is context. That’s not petulance, that is what happened on this thread.
Now, while I agreed with his position on screwing up the trade, not to mention the PR angle, in no way was a Wade versus McDaniels comparison a logical extension of that agreement. Wade = Winnie the Coach. He is what he is. He’s a player’s defensive coordinator dressed up to look like a Head Coach. My issues with Winnie’s style aside, McDaniels hasn’t coached a down, hasn’t won or lost a game, and is still being compared to the inefficacy that has been the Bum, Bud Grant and Tony Dungy (who got run out of town in Tampa for it) legacy. BTW and just for context, I didn’t come up with those coaches’ names either.
As for your own folly, while I appreciate the compliments on my writing ability, I find your exquisitely random use of technology! and…media access! or…satellite TV! as a backdrop for some sort of indecipherable point to be nothing more than wasted taps on a keyboard. But, okay, knock yourself out. My advice to you would be to step back from your maternal instincts for a moment, because you may want to collect yourself and see that your overly protective post left you angry and in defense mode. The CONTEXT of the question I asked Raf was purely interpersonal as it related to McDaniels being someone who has a style more like Coughlin and Bellichick than Winnie. My friend, technology can change lots of things, but it can’t change the beauty of human interaction.
Lastly, I don’t care if you feel some familial instinct with Raf. I don’t care that you dislike the football-oriented content of my posts. But, I do care about fairness (it’s the attorney in me).I’ve read the community guidelines thoroughly and they say, “The rule should always be – argue the message, not the messenger.” I wonder if those guidelines similarly apply to someone like yourself given what you put in your post and how it was “beside the point”? If they do, I expect an apology. If not, trust me, you haven’t seen excellent writing skills yet.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
+1
McDaniels is screwing around with a rare commodity in the NFL…a decent quarterback. Piss him off and run him out the door. Good luck finding another one.
Pour out some liquor for the homie T.O.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 14, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed....
we don’t really know how Cutler is handling it either do we? We know what the media is saying which may be slanted from the Bronco camp. I’d take Cutler in a heart beat, I can’t believe that McDaniels would ever want Cassell over Cutler to begin with.
Yeah....
I think Culter is a primadonna, but you are right.
It is very difficult to find a good QB in the NFL.
I don’t think he’s the endall be all of QB’s but a good QB and a crappy QB is the difference between being a top 5 draft pick and maybe a playoff contender.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
agreed....
btw does Cassel have one l or two lls at the end? just wondering
One "L".
Yeah, I’m agreeing with Raf. You don’t let this crap happen in regards to your starting/franchise QB. I’m not saying Cutler is the end-all of everything but this is a rookie head coach mistake IMO.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
I agree...
I can’t even believe that he would even think that Cassel would be better than Cutler to begin with.
Hey
I stole AFB’s term. “Endall” of QB’s. I hope he doesn’t notice.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
You sob....
haha
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
LOL
It must have just sunk in when I read your post. I swear!!!
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It's ok friend...
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
Jacques Reeves laughs at the Cowboys.
“Honestly, no – not surprised. I’ve been in that environment,” Reeves said of the Cowboys. “I know what’s going on. No, I’m not surprised. Without giving any details, but seeing what went on this past off-season, I kind of expected it. I didn’t hope it. Don’t get me wrong. I certainly didn’t hope that they did bad because they didn’t re-sign me. That wasn’t the case. But I kind of knew what was going on.”
I’m Jacques Reeves! I knew Tony Romo would hurt his hand! I expected it! Ha-ha-ha!
I knew your All-Pro punter would hurt himself!
I knew Felix Jones would get hurt and miss most of the season!
I knew Terence Newman would get hurt!
I knew Kyle Kosier would get hurt!
I saw it all! The Cowboys suck! Ha-ha-ha-ha!
I got a $20 million contract! You’re hurting in this economy? I’m Jacques Reeves! I can’t even cover anybody, and I’m rich! I’m worth twenty million dollars! Ha-ha-ha-ha!
(The pick will come in handy, but I really hate this guy. — B.P.)
Texas slang in a Big Apple minute, by a friendly OED consultant. http://www.barrypopik.com
If you go back and look at tape from the 07 season
Jacque Reeves got beat on every deep ball along with Roy. He was one of the biggest reasons next to the o-line that we lost the Giants playoff game. I was so happy when he left.
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
Jake Plummmer was a streaky on again off again QB who had a great season under Shanahan in Denver but lost his first playoff game and kinda broke under the comparisons to Elway and flipped off the Bronco fans. Wisely chose retirement instead of playing for Gruden.
So far I would say Cutler is far and away the best thing they have had since Elway retired. I see the Owner taking the two primadonnas out…………his new coach and qb and smoothing things over.
Eerily similar to our own search for Aikmans replacement.
On Cutler...
Cutler hasn’t been streaky at all.
Losing a 4 game lead to San Diego with 4 to play? Nothing to do with him.
Tell me again what Cutler has won in Denver? Not his fault.
Yeah, he’s a true 1st ballot HOF’er.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Yeah that god awlfull D with the Head case WR and talented but green OL certainly had nothing to do with it.Can you name a RB there who lasted more than 4 game stretch.
Maybe all of those coaches only have 1 SB win but they have been in the league for 30+ years and have a much better history of success
Blah Blah Blah
In 2007, Denver had 1957 rushing yards and went 7-9. Dallas had 200 yards less and went 13-3.
I don’t care if it is one back or five, they run the ball quite well in Denver with allof their cut blocking.
Cutler takes no blame for their 15-16 record the past two years? I think McDaniels wants a winner with a winner’s attitude and Cutler just doesn’t have it.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
No offense.....
but 13-3 didn’t exactly get us anywhere did it. Sorry, don’t mean to be rude, but I’m sick of everyone saying we went 13-3 cause it really was irrelevant at the end of the year. Cutler may be handling this whole thing wrong, but he’s still one of the top five QB’s in the NFL. I’d certainly keep him over Cassel. Look at the talent that was around Cassel compared to Cutler.
A top 5 QB?
I don’t know about that. There are a lot of guys who are better, or as good as, Cutler.
Brady
Peyton
Brees
Palmer
Romo
Rivers
Warner
McNabb
Big Ben
Hasselbeck
Matt Schaub
Matt Ryan
I’d put him in the top 10-12.
Denver made a huge blunder by trying to trade him, but if he was really elite, why would they have tried to.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 15, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember though....
he is still very young-25 yrs. old. He came off the bench his rookie yr and was thrown to the wolves-did pretty good if you ask me. He has a cannon for an arm. He may not be a top 5 QB yet but he has plenty of upside compared to McNabb,Hasselbeck,Warner who are in the twilight of their careers. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not condoning his actions (or media appearance of actions) but I’d much rather have Cutler as my QB than Cassel. I just get kinda tired of people that like to keep saying that we went 13-3 cause it doesn’t mean squat to me. Where did it get us except making us believe that we were better than we were in actuality going into 2008.
It still nice to say they were 13-3
Even if they let that friggin divisional game slip through their grasp. It’s not as nice as saying we made the SB, but I still it’s something to be proud of.
I totally agree with you that Cutler has a lot of potential and I wouldn’t ever take Cassell over him, Cassell could be the next Derek Anderson, who knows. That’s why I think the new regime made a unnecessary blunder by the half assed attempt to trade away Cutler for Cassell. Made even worse by the fact that someone leaked it to the media.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 15, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember though...
he’s a diabetic and managing his blood glucose levels impacts his play. Denver has admitted they haven’t yet got a good process to keep him from becoming lethargic and unable to complete all the throws.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
And what was...
Denver’s defensive ranking then?
I’m not defending Cutler either, its well documented that I think the guy is a jackass.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 15, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly....
Just looked it up and Cutler threw for over 4500 yds. last year. He only has been a starting QB for 2 and half yrs(kinda like Romo). He was thrown out there in the middle of the season his rookie year-which I still don’t understand-btw because they were winning with Plummer. Point is, Denver was so depleted at RB last year that they were grabbing guys off of the scrap heap. It’s really pretty remarkable what they did offensively considering all the bad luck they had last year . There problems were on defense which ultimately cost Shanahan his job imo.
I was simply responding to whoever said they had no running game
Denver has seldom lacked a running game.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Dude, My point was simply he had a lot of help on a young team. To lay all of that on him is bogus.
By your calculator Aikman is 7wins and 24 losses. Oh! Crap let cut the cry baby loser now. Thank god you werent the GM and cut a 3 time SB HOF QB.
BLAH BLAH BLAH, comes from premature statements made with little or no bases of fact. Give him some time. You dont get rid of 1st round QBs with cannons who are smart with lots of flashes of brilliance in his play.
Fair enough...
Now, the real question:
Romo or Cutler?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
be specific......
what do you mean by Romo or Cutler?
That is cheating...
Make the call, right now, based on what you know.
Do you stay with Romo or trade him straight up for Cutler (cap impacts notwithstanding)?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
One thing that makes this a little more complicated.......
is the fact that Newman is now yapping to the media about Romo. My question is Has Romo lost the locker room or is it just Newman mouthing off? If he has lost the locker room I would be inclined to go with Cutler. Now you all can blast me. I’ve put on my shield-hahaha
Terry, my friend, I think we all knew where your vote would be
Asking you about Romo is like asking a bear if he craps in the woods.
Sorry, that was all I could come up with on short notice.
BTW, do you have some sort of “find Romo” function built into your internet browser because you NEVER miss a chance to reply to ANY post about Romo, regardless of how small. I just gotta know, man…
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
So, you're a Jones (Jerry or Stephen)
If you could make the deal right now, you’re saying you would do it?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Let me rephrase this.....
If and that’s a big if Romo has truly lost the locker-room and it can’t be repaired, I would think about it. Have you seen the latest on profootballtalk.com or Sirius? Newman is mouthing off again about Romo. It may just be Newman saying these things. If the locker-room is truly fractured, then I would have to consider it for the long term.
That's not the point Terry........
What I was saying whether you want to admit it or not is that this locker-room was very fractured last year. A lot of guys blamed T.O. for this. Now T.O.‘s gone and there’s still yapping. So if you put 2 and 2 together you realize that the locker-room is still divided. Maybe it’s only Newman. It could be half and half or it couldf be wide-spread. You and I don’t know that. My point is if Romo has truly lost the locker-room’s support, then you might think about trading him for Cutler.
I disagree that the locker room is divided
nothing Newman said in that interview makes me believe that he isn’t 100% behind Romo.
T.O. divided the locker room, nobody else.
In Romo we Trust
Read my comments again....
I didn’t say the locker room is divided. I said IF the locker room is divided. I don’t know and neither do you. All I do know is that it was reported last year that some of the players were getting mad at Romo. Newman still appears to have questions about Romo or he wouldn’t be making comments to the media. If the locker-room is still fractured you might consider a trade. Terry this is just speculation and so don’t get all excited about it.
He talked again about it
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/03/terence-newman-on-terence-newman.html
Reached Monday, Newman said he doesn’t believe the relationship affects Romo, “but the public perception is that it does affect him.”
“The thing they don’t see is he might go [out of town] but at the same time he comes back and works out,” Newman said. “He’s been in there the past couple of weeks with the rest of us. Roy Williams and me and a bunch of guys are in there busting our butts, and he’s right there with us. They don’t see him working out. They don’t see what he puts into the preparation.”
It sounds like he’s behind him but is just saying that the media and the fans are going to perceive one thing even though it’s not the case because they don’t see the whole picture.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
okay....
btw, I wasn’t saying that the locker room was divided but when you hear some of the things coming out like Newman it makes you kind of wonder. It’s funny how sometimes I make a comment and certain people take it way over-board like I’m criticizing Romo. All I was saying hypothetically, is if the locker room is truly divided then I’d think about a trade. Does that sound fair?
Yeah, I understood what you said
And it’s not like I’m condoning Newman running his mouth. Maybe he’s just backtracking now?? IDK. Even JJT is coming out all of the sudden saying that Newman broke the locker room code. I really do believe that this is more from Newman just liking the sound of his own voice.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
I didn't think you were condoning Newman....
what’s really kinda funny though, it men always make fun of women for gossiping but this is worse than a bunch of little old ladies getting together and gossiping about each other. This is getting ridiculous.
wait...
I am confused.
I read this;
“What I was saying whether you want to admit it or not is that this locker-room was very fractured last year. A lot of guys blamed T.O. for this. Now T.O.‘s gone and there’s still yapping. So if you put 2 and 2 together you realize that the locker-room is still divided.”
I thought you were saying the locker room was divided. Personally, I think CRN1 was right and there is some lingering division in there. The question is how to heal it if the team doesn’t have the kind of leader in Winnie the Coach to help them get through it.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Sorry, Blings sometimes when
Terry starts splitting hairs with everything I say, I get a little off track. I guess I wouldn’t do so well on a witness stand-lol. I think that it is a fair statement to say that this locker-room “appeared” to be divided last year. What I was trying to clarify is that since none of us are in the locker-room, we don’t know what really went on behind closed doors do we? I was referring to Terry in that he apparently doesn’t believe that the locker-room was divided. It was all T.O.s fault. Once T.O. leaves, the problems all go away. I personally don’t believe that by removing one guy, the locker-room will be fixed. At some point, IMO, something has to give. Either get the guys to buy into your program or get out.
It is evident now...
through the Jacques Reeves interview, the Newman stuff, the T.O.-Witten-Romo love triangle and the Garrett vs. T.O. and the WR’s spat that the locker room was indeed divided.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I agree......
but nobody noticed it because of their 13-3 record in 2007. Once the losing started, it became a story.
locker room is fine
Romo’s teammates love him.
“He’s our leader. If we get to the Super Bowl it’s because of him,” Newman said. “We are behind him 100 percent.”
http://www.star-telegram.com/332/story/1264192.html
now if only most Cowboys fans would feel the same way
In Romo we Trust
THe newman interview was done before FA
if you caught the entire interview he talks about how the team still has all its parts from last season. So the yapping was done before all the personnel moves. So how much should we read into an interview that we do not even know when it took place. T-new is speaking his mind and this season will be big part of determining romo’s future with the team if it goes to one extreme or the other.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
thanks for clarifying......
so you’re saying that the media just decided to throw out this little nugget to stir up more controversy?
I do not know
but the interview was posted on this site from Grizz a little while back and we all got into whether or not t-new should have done the interview. I just remember that in the interview the reporter or t-new did not talk about recent FA moves at the begining of FA that involved trading henry. I am suprised that they would not have asked him about henry or canty leaving the team. I know the interview came out shortly after the cutting of TO.
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2009/3/9/787167/terence-newman-pulls-no-pu
I asked the same question during the that thread and receieved no response. Now I think that the interview was released after TO was cut but the interview make no mention of that fact, it’s hard to believe that T-new would talk in such detail about his perspective of the team last year and not metion the impact of TO being cut. It is possible that this is coming out now in light of the media’s dissatisfaction with the gag order and this is a little jab to undermine JJ position.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
I knew about that a couple of weeks ago.....
but the media made it sound like this was something new. In fact, I just got thru watching NFL Network and they brought up the Tony/Jessica storyline as well.
Look at the delay in the posting around the sports webblogs
Timmy tabloid is just now getting to something that Grizz posted a week ago, PTF is coming out on the same day, I would not be suprised to see it make its way through the webblogs this week and keep the web hits keep on coming in.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Here is a recent development.
T-new’s rebuttal to his own interview held about two weeks ago on Mar 2, 2009.
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/03/terence-newman-on-terence-newman.html
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Wow! what happened to the gag order from Jerry?
Well, if you can’t stand the heat…
Look, Romo is under a lot of pressure and he needs to gather himself and focus. I’d be distracted by Jessica’s assets (I’d forget my own name!), maybe even develop one of those addictions, but who wouldn’t?
The point is, if Romo chooses to be in that kind of limelight, it is just one more thing he will need to overcome in this very important year of his life.
Maybe Calvin Hill can help him? :-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I'm glad to see that at least you understand....
what I’m getting at. By all means, am I saying give up on Romo? No! IMO, though, there’s still more that needs to be fixed.
Personally, I just think it's Newman being Newman.
He’s had a problem the last few years running his mouth.
I go with Romo. It’s not all just arm strength. It’s the ability to make things happen when things break down that I believe make Romo a special QB. Remember that game against the Giants in 2007?? When he looked like he was caught, then got away, looked like he was going down, looked up and “flung” the ball to Curtis in the corner of the endzone. I just don’t see other QB’s making those kind of plays. I KNOW he makes some real boneheaded ones too but so does Cutler.
I re-watched that Eagles game from last year. The first one. The game really shouldn’t have been that close except for two STUPID plays by Tony. The first INT was crazy. He made another Romoesque escape from the rush, has a guy open but just rushed and sidearmed his throw and it was intercepted. I look at things like that and say there’s really no excuse for that but on the other hand there’s really no excuse that he won’t be able to eliminate those poor decisions too. Those were the type of great plays he made REGULARLY in 2007. If he cuts those poor decisions in half this next season then I see us being something special.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
I just wish he would shut-up.....
We don’t need any more yappers right now. Let the drama follow some other team.
Yeah, that was really my biggest complaint about TO
Whether or not it was his fault I was just tired of that drama. If I wanna watch Young and the Restless I’ll go over to my Grandma’s.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Do you think Jerry will meet with T-New?
and if so, do you think there will be a Seinfeld moment?
Jerry: “Hello…Newman”
Newman: “Jerry”
:-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
"I've looked into his eyes. He's pure evil."
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
because Blings is saying which one do you want right now?
Boyz was saying give them both one more season.
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