Cowboys Draft 2009: To Whom Do We Turn For a Big Return
Bill Parcells had the right idea when he selected LSU return man Skyler Green in the fourth round of the 2006 NFL draft. At the time Green was widely regarded as the #2 kickoff/punt return prospect in the draft, behind only Miami's Devin Hester. Unfortunately for Cowboy fans the Bears got the right guy, and we got the wrong one. Hopefully time has dulled the sting of missing on Green, because the Cowboys need to take another swing at finding a punt returner.
Of course, the Cowboys punt return struggles go a lot deeper than the return man himself. If your punt return squad can't spring Pacman Jones loose every once in a while, your problems are deep. Last year, special teams coordinator Bruce Read's unit finished 30th in the NFL in punt return average. Read is out, and replacing him is Joe DeCamillis, whose 2008 Jacksonville unit ranked 15th in the league. DeCamillis may be able to help the Cowboys return game as far as scheme and fundamentals, but it sure wouldn't hurt to have a punt returner who can make things happen on his own.
The Cowboys have a few in-house options, but none are really feasible. Patrick Crayton is sure handed, but unwatchable with the football in his hands. Terence Newman is the best punt returner on the roster, but given his recent injury history it is unlikely that the staff will subject him to any unnecessary danger. Isaiah Stanback has the skill set to be a dynamic punt returner. Stanback has the speed, vision, and stop-and-start capabilities to do the job, but has zero experience as a punt returner.
Apparently my attempts to telekinetically plant the name Chris Carr in Jerry Jones' head were unsuccessful. Carr's signing with Baltimore means that there are really no viable punt returners left in free agency.
Before we turn our attention to this year's crop of draft-eligible return men, let's be real with ourselves. Percy Harvin and Jeremy Maclin will be gone before the guys in the Cowboys war room have even finished playing rock-paper-scissors to decide who gets the comfy chair. Let's try to think about the guys we actually have a shot at.
Anthony Henry's departure leaves the Cowboys in need of depth at cornerback. It would be ideal to find a punt returner who is also capable on the corner. There are plenty of guys in this draft who fit the bill.
- Virginia Tech's Victor "Macho" Harris is among the top punt returners in this year's draft. A pedestrian 40-yard dash clocking of 4.61 will ensure that he is available on day two.
- I will go on record now as saying that Wake Forest's Alphonso Smith is the best corner in this draft. You can't argue with Smith's film, but his lack of prototypical size (5'8"/190) will cause him to slide. If he were somehow available when the Cowboys select in the third round (69th overall) he would be an absolute steal.
- One guy who's name is beginning to gather a little steam is Central Florida's Joe Burnett. As a senior Burnett averaged 14.5 yards per return as a senior, and was also the first team All-Conference USA punt returner as a junior. Burnett also averaged 28.6 yards on kickoffs.
The Cowboys have no room on the roster for a punt returning scat-back. The only possibility would be to draft a developmental type wide receiver who can contribute in the return game as he learns the receiver position. This draft class also has a few of those type of guys.
- Arizona's Mike Thomas was among the nations top punt returners (14.0 average) in 2008. While his speed (4.40) and hands make him an intriguing prospect, scouts don't like his size (5'8"/195). He will not be an early selection.
- Ole Miss' Mike Wallace turned in the combine's second fastest 40-yard dash (4.33). At 6'0"/199 he has the size to be a legitimate wide receiver.
- North Carolina's Brandon Tate was averaging an obscene 22.6 yards per return before being sidelined by a mid-season knee injury. Tate's inability to work out for scouts will certainly hurt his draft status. He should be available in the middle rounds.
Dynamic punt returners are more than an unnecessary luxury. They are game-changers. Nothing ignites a stagnant offense, or busts you out of a 3-3 grunt fest like a big return. The Cowboys have got to find a guy who can flip the field in the punt return game. When Deion Sanders was here, special teams coordinators around the league just rented apartments, because they didn't have the job security to invest in a home. While there are no Deions in this year's draft class, there are a few guys who can provide a spark, and potentially steal some points in the return game. The Cowboys would be well-served to upgrade the punt return position in this year's draft.
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macho ran a 4.4 today or yesterday
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Mar 19, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they adjusted it to 4.51
Draft Day Rules: Rule #4: If Bill Parcells calls, just hang up. Because whatever he want's to talk about ain't gonna be good for you.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 19, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are correct sir
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Mar 19, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4.51 is good enough for me...He's a perfect example of the kind of DB we need....can play CB in a zone, can play FS in dime..and is a dynamic player with the ball in his hands..either via PR or INT
If there at the top of round 4 or our other later 4th rounder…..he’d have to be considered…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 20, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Alphonso Smith...
That tackle on the screen vs. Clemson was SIIICK. To lay a stick like that from your backside is ridiculous…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Mar 19, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
To bad he will be gone at 51
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 19, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A. Smith is the #1 corner
according to Sporting News Warroom – and I like their work as they base it in on film i.e. production not speed and size. There are lots of big and fast guys out there that can’t play football…
I agree he will be gone by 51, most mocks have him at the bottom of the first. But if he slipped into the 2nd round I would be keen for Jerry to leverage a few of our picks into trading up to get him. We can’t use 11 picks anyway
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
by BoyfromOz on Mar 20, 2009 5:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
na there was zero explsion in that tackle. he coulda lit him up but didnt becuase he really only got into great position becuase he slipped. it say that was more of a fluke then what you would see from him on every play, but then again this highlight video is the only footage of him ive seen. he looks slow but always seemed to be in good position. i love his aggresiveness when it comes to going for the ball though.
by DavidLaFleur on Mar 19, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got sad when I saw Carr signed with the Ravens.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda been a fine fit for this team.
Great writeup. I think non-fair catch punt returns are the most exciting plays in football. I’d really like the Cowboys to address this position in the draft.
Drafting a CB/PR would be insurance towards going at it through the WR position. I like Smith, though he may not be there at 51. If they got rid of a later pick to move up for him, I would not balk. I also like Mike Thomas for a later pick. Both guys are small, but we have a pretty tall team and rangy secondary as is.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 19, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what's really strange about the Ravens......
I thought they were going to have problems signing people because of Lewis,Suggs etc. I guess they had more room under their cap than I thought.
by texstar on Mar 19, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Mike Wallace
he got size, speed, and quickness…..Brandon Tate is another good WR/PR option. Truthfully Joe Burnett would give us the best option to be able to get our other holes filled as well tho.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 19, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carl - you have a real gift for this blogging thing...
Your articles are always informative, and just as importantly, easy to read.
Good work.
by WayneLaR on Mar 19, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Consistently top notch writing
When I see you’ve posted something new, I can’t wait to read it. Thanks for your contributions.
by StillHateTheGiants on Mar 19, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The dc dot com site has a segment with bill jones and larry brown and they
are high on Alfonso Smith, they consider him to be a good cb.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Mar 19, 2009 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here is the link to the cb preview.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=1F5EE552-C9D1-89AF-8831D64B34A07203
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Mar 19, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we actually have a punt reurner on the roster
who could be all-pro, but unfortunately he’s also a china doll which is the reason it’s too risky having him return punts.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 19, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
btw any news on Stanback, can he walk? LOL
by dcfanz on Mar 19, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasnt it his shoulder again this time?
by Impatient on Mar 19, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know what he's got on JJ, but its a prety good shakedown.
I still dont know, why is he still on the roster
by dcfanz on Mar 19, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
we have held on to him a year longer then the last 4th rounder we drafted for his position. The aforementioned Skyler Green
by Impatient on Mar 19, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stanback
wasn’t drafted as a return man as Green was, he was a college QB drafted as a project WR. He showed promise on the practice field while learning a new position, but has been dinged up, so his progress has been delayed. Isaiah will show something this year, or will be gone.
Green, on the other hand, simply sucked.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Mar 19, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Green was fat
guy was late getting into camp because he was overweight.
I can see linemen having weight issues, but punt returners? Rookie ones?
His agent should have hired him a diet specialist.
by Rafael Vela on Mar 19, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being too stupid
to show up in shape for your first NFL camp was a big part of his suckatude.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Mar 20, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
2007 preseason:
3 Kick Off Returns 66 yards = 22.0 yards per return
4 receptions 39 yards – 15 yard TD reception
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2007 regular season
Seperated Shoulder / placed on Physically Unable to Perform List in preseason
Gets to appear in 2 games:
3 Kick Off Returns for 78 yards = 26.0 yards per return
2008 preseason:
5 Kick Off Returns 148 yards = 29.6 yards per return
2 receptions 14 yards
1 rushing attempt 7 yards
Reinjures same shoulder in preseason after making great strides, delays surgery
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2008 regular season:
Finally gets action in regular season on offense due to others inability to remain healthy.
Collects 2 receptions and 24 yards in the season opener, a courageous effort while injured in support of the team with WR depth problems..
10 Kickoff Returns for 218 yards = 21.8 yards per return / 6 of 10 for over 20 yards including a 58 yards return.
yeah…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 20, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why we need more options at CB through the draft.
That way, later in the year—Newman can be used in key situations.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 19, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Newman
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 19, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carl, your telekinetic antennae...
..need to be fine tuned. I heard where Jerry bought $800,000 worth of Crisco because he couldn’t get that word out of his head. But your comedic chops are doing fine.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Mar 19, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus...
Wouldn’t telapathy have more to do with planting thoughts in peoples heads then being telekinetic?
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 19, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In order
to get into Jerry’s head, thoughts must be physical objects.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Mar 19, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that assessment.
Althought I think Pacman was pretty rusty this season.
There were far too many times that he was too indecisive when returning punts.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 19, 2009 3:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We already have Tnew, Felix the Cat and the Promissed One
I can’t allowcating a roster spot to a return specialist. I do see two or tree DBs and LBs that will battle for their spot on special teams.
by birdness on Mar 19, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It has to be a CB
I don’t see room on the game day roster for another wr just to return punts. You figure that Roy, Austin, Crayton are definites, Hurd provides a great backup wr with special teams skills, and Stanback is most likely your kick returner and part time wr. That’s five already.
However, a fifth corner could definitely make it, and might even crack the top four depending on Ball and whether Scandrick plays safety.
Burnett is intriguing, but doesn’t have the upside to possibly be a starting cb in our system. Best case he’s a backup/nickel cb and a good returner. That’s probably plenty good for a late rounder.
I’m a Hokie, so I’ve watched plenty of Macho Harris. He’s definitely a gamer, although I don’t see him being a superstar punt returner. He could develop as a corner, or maybe a free safety, plus he’d give us an upgrade over Crayton at PR. My worry is that he might be a tampa two type cb, not a man up guy.
by cowboysuberfan on Mar 19, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah I'd say don't use a pick we already have Felix, but
I think that the new ST coach has to “rent and apartment” until he ignites the whole unit.
Very good punt returner is a must, but blockers, gunners and so on are necessities too.
Everyone sees Hester running dynamic and electrifying returns, but the rest of the unit stays on its assignments
by dcfanz on Mar 19, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The more I think about Macho
I’m thinking he could be a real interesting FS option. He’s not that big, but he plays tough. And his instincts and playmaking ability are great…. might be a poor man’s Ed Reed.
Hmmm… Macho Harris, FS and punt returner. How high is he going to go? 3rd?
by cowboysuberfan on Mar 19, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With his size
maybe a poor mans Bob Sanders
by Impatient on Mar 19, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sold on Macho...
I’m a Hokie too and have watched every one of his games. He has flashes of great play, but too many times he got beat or lost on critical downs or plays…I just cant ignore his frequent mental laps. He was a great college player, but I’m not sure he has the smarts to play as an NFL safety. Also, i think his punt return abilities might also be a tribute to our excellent specialI teams play/coaching. if did draft him, it wouldnt be in the 3rd…i would pick him up for sure in the 4th or later though.
by VTcowboys16 on Mar 19, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glory, I have to...
Defer to your opinion on this subject. I haven’t been looking at cornerbacks in the draft at all, so I’m a little bit in the dark about them. probably because I’ve been concentrating on who’s gonna be NT, SS and FS so much that I never thought to look into CB. I’m sure we can find a good one in the mid rounds (much like Scandrick). Would you rather find a WR that is a good PR/KR, or a cornerback?
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Mar 19, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If a returner is signed, it's going to be a CB
Not a WR.
As Rafael mentioned, the team has a mold for their receivers and it’s harder to find a guy with size and punt return hability in the mid to late parts of the draft.
Roy Williams 6’3 – 211
Miles Austin 6’3 – 216
Patrick Crayton 6’0 – 205
Sam Hurd 6’2 – 196
Isaiah Stanback 6’2 – 208
Paris Warren 6’0 – 213
Travis Wilson 6’1 – 213
Even the camp bodies have some size and I’m surprized at Hurd’s weight, I always thought that he was heavier than Austin…
by Chandus on Mar 19, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
The only WR/PR we would grab is Mike Wallace
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 19, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Thomas is another possible WR/PR
He’s a good slot WR and I think he led the nation in punt returning
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 19, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Opinion
on Stanback is up in the air right now. He has shown small glimpes of possiblities and thats all. He has no experience , but he has speed and a couple moves. I would certainly give him a shot. At the same time to look for a back up corner or safety that might be able to return punts is not a bad idea either.
by oldboysfan on Mar 19, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
All I know....
is if we get a guy named Macho, he better be able to give the flying elbow.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 19, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
need a little excitement????
Snap in to a Slim Jim !!!!!!!! OOOOHHHH YYYEEAAHH!!!!!
"Let me tell you sumthin' son ! an ass whippin' hurts no matter what kinda shape your in ! " Stone Cold Steve Austin
by jerryw on Mar 19, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alphonso Smith will will be gone in the first
by Football Guy on Mar 19, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 19, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never saw...
Skylar Green play in college, but why was he rated so highly as a punt returner? He never showed anything with the Cowboys.
by beautifultyrant on Mar 19, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
click the link on his name.
That’s why
Draft Day Rules: Rule #4: If Bill Parcells calls, just hang up. Because whatever he want's to talk about ain't gonna be good for you.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 19, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
Too bad he couldn’t carry that over into the NFL.
by beautifultyrant on Mar 19, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My problem with Green was...
That was his speciality in college, he was a wr, but all he really did in college that was that good was return punts.
While Hester was primarily a kick returner, you could at least use him as another corner.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 19, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hester was an awful corner.
But if you have the chance to get a truly special return man, you’ve gotta make room. Even if he doesn’t contribute elsewhere.
Draft Day Rules: Rule #4: If Bill Parcells calls, just hang up. Because whatever he want's to talk about ain't gonna be good for you.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 19, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes not bad wr
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 19, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he's not bad at all at WR
But I think it hurt him in the return game. He was more valuable to them when he was just running back kicks.
Draft Day Rules: Rule #4: If Bill Parcells calls, just hang up. Because whatever he want's to talk about ain't gonna be good for you.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 19, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but Chicago spent a 2nd rounder on a punt returner
He’s been worth it, but how many teams have the guts to do that? The closest Dallas ever came to that was Kevin Williams.
by Rafael Vela on Mar 19, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Bears could do that because they knew they were close
Draft Day Rules: Rule #4: If Bill Parcells calls, just hang up. Because whatever he want's to talk about ain't gonna be good for you.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 19, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not then....
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 20, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the bears offesne should
consist of .. on 2nd down have orton to turn around and just punt the ball to hester.. doesnt he score 1/10 returns.. i like those odds haha
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 20, 2009 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True enough...
But you know the saying, you can’t have enough corners.
But your right, the Bears were close, at the time when we got Skylar Green there were alot of other positions that needed to be addressed.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 20, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enough with Stanback already!
All I ever hear is great athlete, great abillity, but…but…but…cant stay healthy, no experience, can’t learn special teams position. The guy is dead weight. Ok, he gets his last shot at camp but shouldn’t we draft a WR on day 2 or FA wr that can return punts and fill the 5th wr spot??? I’m so done with the I.S. project
by fretman on Mar 19, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This commentary is donated from the peanut gallery.
? 2007 preseason:
3 Kick Off Returns 66 yards = 22.0 yards per return
4 receptions 39 yards – 15 yard TD reception
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2007 regular season
Seperated Shoulder / placed on Physically Unable to Perform List in preseason
Gets to appear in 2 games:
3 Kick Off Returns for 78 yards = 26.0 yards per return
2008 preseason:
5 Kick Off Returns 148 yards = 29.6 yards per return
2 receptions 14 yards
1 rushing attempt 7 yards
Reinjures same shoulder in preseason after making great strides, delays surgery
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2008 regular season:
Finally gets action in regular season on offense due to others inability to remain healthy.
Collects 2 receptions and 24 yards in the season opener, a courageous effort while injured in support of the team with WR depth problems..
10 Kickoff Returns for 218 yards = 21.8 yards per return / 6 of 10 for over 20 yards including a 58 yards return.
Should come into the 2009 season ready to go. Will dominate the preseason and take over the 4th WR spot week 1.
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yeah…I always lose patience 2 years after drafting guys…because I have no patients, and for some reason I think my 5th-6th WR should contribute more than just Kick Off Returns, because I think I know what i’m talking about. I want to cut our seasoned young prospect, and replace him with a WR that will become our new developemental guy to sit on the bench for his first 2 seasons as our 5th-6th WR, and hopefully he can contribute on KO returns as well, maybe even more so than the guy I’m looking to replace…
.I just like changing things, and throwing away draft picks and bonus money, because I play Madden, and it’s easy to just swap out players in franchise mode, because I don’t have to be accountable, nor do I need to invest time in developing prospects.. Why do I show such impatience for a guy that has clearly showed everyone that’s watched him that he is a phenominal athlete, and has all the tools to be a gifted WR and Return Specialist…Why am I so done ? I want more from my 6th WR. Every team should suit up 6 WR’s on game day. We are going to a more Romo friendly running game, but I really want another WR, Why I ask myself ? because there are too many balls to go around. I want Witten, Bennett and the WR to catch less so they can make way for our new rookie WR, because I have impatiency issues, and I need change on the bottom of our roster. Cuz I really need something to bitch about. This part of the year is so boring. I want preseason to begin so I can see my shiny new WR prospect line up in exhibition and catch balls from Rich Bartel, and I can hail him as the next best thing….Oh, It must be Garrett’s fault that he’s not being activated for the regular season….OH…maybe next year….Cuz it does take 3 seasons to properly groom a WR….I should have known that. I should realize Austin and Hurd took 3 years, and have barely caught 18 balls…yeah…I should be a little more optimistic., I should relax and focus on other positions that have absolutely no depth…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 20, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
Are you wanting to keep Stanback or not?
I’m thinking keep. The sarcasm is so thick that I’m confused.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 20, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao....of course we're keeping him....there is no reason not to, absolutely none...
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 20, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
Although I think this is the break or bank year for him.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 20, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much typing
for such little production…lol…I get your point (except for the Madden reference). I dont think anybody said cut him now. It’s just that with all of that God given talent, cant we try to get this guy to learn how to return punts? Has anybody from the Cowboys mentioned this? You wanna give him another year or 2, ok fine. But if I see him limp off the field during preseason game 2..well..I’ll be upset
by fretman on Mar 20, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll be even more upset...He so far, has been dealt a bad hand of cards ( in the injury dept )....
It surely doen’t make him injury prone…he re- injured the same shoulder while being pile driven into the turf after a 44 yard return…I would personally love to see him get a crack at returning punts as well…he has shown he’s got the hands to secure it, and has shown the speed to return it, but does he have the quickness or shiftiness to elude initial tacklers ? I know Crayton doesn’t…..so why not give Stanback a shot ?
Although I think this is the break or bank year for him.
I agree, and barring any setbacks with injury, I fully expect him to duplicate or surpass Austins 3rd year ’08 output of 13 receptions.
I dont think anybody said cut him now
btw….yes…you and several others have been calling for his head for quite some time, with no reasoning behind it.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 21, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Y is everyone so down on the guy...
yea he’s been injured but he changed positions and has shown improvement, yea he has potential so y not try to tap that potential..He time is running up but until it is over let him progress…The only question I have is, I want to know how committed he is
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 19, 2009 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what have you done for me lately? plus
he is taking somebody else’s place on the roster, somebody that really can contribute
by dcfanz on Mar 19, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats exactally
whats rubbin me dc. We need that roster spot. GD88 mentioned Mike Wallace. Thats the kind of guy we need. wr #5 probably wont see the field on O anyway but if he can return punts and he’s fast, lets do it.
by fretman on Mar 19, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last camp
for I.S. nic.rod. I’m not down on him but it is what it is. We need to get someone in camp to compete for that 5th wr spot
by fretman on Mar 19, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops
I just read some of my other posts…I guess I am down on the guy
by fretman on Mar 19, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
commited ?...He's been down at Valley ranch every day with Romo and R Williams...several weeks prior to voluntary workouts begin.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 20, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
encouraging
I’ll be watching him this preseason. If he could at least pass Hurd on the depth chart or show SOME progress, I guess I can live with that
BTW..where do you guys get this info? Good stuff
by fretman on Mar 21, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just got to shop around for info....it's out there...Here's Michael Irvin on his radio show claiming that Isaiah Stanback calls him all the time for tutoring, advice, and to workout on routes...
And the reports of Stanback being at Valley ranch all this past month were brought up by Newman in one of his many interviews, but was overshadowed by the Romo – Roy Williams combo being at practice as well….I also heard that Miles Austin has been participatiing as well….Hopefully all the WR’s are on the same page this upcoming season…And that means more than one series in two of 4 preseason games….I want Romo out there working this out til it’s a well oiled machine..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 21, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill Jones on The Blitz likes this guy
Joe Burnet from Central Florida.
And yes, he was right about Tashard last year.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 19, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I’m on the draft Burnett bandwagon. I wonder if Bill Jones has some inside info on the Cowboys interest level.
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by APerfectStar on Mar 19, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
enough Burnetts, we had one already, and he was itching to leave LOL get somebody with different last name
I for one really liked K. Burnett, from his days in Tenn
by dcfanz on Mar 19, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
We replaced a Jones at RB last season and it looks like an upgrade, maybe replacing a Burnett will yield good results too.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 20, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont know the numbers of the contract, but another lost opportunity
EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP)—The Minnesota Vikings have signed free agent wide receiver and kick returner Glenn Holt and unrestricted free agent cornerback Karl Paymah.
Holt is a four-year veteran who led the Cincinnati Bengals in kickoff return yards in each of his three seasons with the team, averaging 24.3 yards per return.
In 2008, Holt had 46 returns for 1,110 yards, with five returns greater than 40 yards. He started at wide receiver for the Bengals the final five games of the season.
by dcfanz on Mar 19, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we need kick returners now ? I guess Felix Jones just wasn't cutting it ?
I believe we need a punt returner…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 20, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the love of God
Don’t ever mention Skyler Green again.
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 19, 2009 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so you can miss Switzer...
but we cant mention Mr. Green? Where’s the love man
by fretman on Mar 19, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Green ever pack a handgun in his carry on?
Nice try.
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 20, 2009 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stanback has been looked at as a KO returner, but not a punt returner
and those are completely different things.
Or did I miss something? Because I don’t remember him doing that.
Not that there’s been much chance to remember anything about him.
Same thing with throwing Felix Jones out there-you guys, he’s a KO returner, not a punt returner, and don’t expect to see that.
by Realist Larry on Mar 19, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've never seen or heard anything about Stanback returning punts either.
I’d like to see him get some tries back there; but, if it hasn’t happened yet, then maybe it won’t.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 19, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, they are different
but Stanback has the type of skills to do both.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 19, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
point is
he doesnt seem to be a WR either plus I believe he is now having all his mail forwarded directly to the trainers room
by fretman on Mar 19, 2009 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Am I completely crazy?
What about Tashard Choice returning punts? I don’t see a wr/pr combo for the reason Chandus mentioned, the guy wouldn’t be the wr profile.
by StillHateTheGiants on Mar 19, 2009 9:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They probably want someone a little quicker to get any yards that come up...
but he has the vision and is pretty shifty….
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 19, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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