BOOM or BUST?!?
by 5Blings on Mar 19, 2009 4:53 PM CDT
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Dallas is once again, loaded with talent at almost every position and a case could be made for Dallas still having the MOST talented roster in the league.
But here, for your enjoyment, is a list of players who are on some kind of performance bubble and it's up to us, the BTB Community, to label them a BOOM or a BUST in 2009.
Now to be clear, a BOOM player is one that makes a significant impact to the team's play on the field. BOOM players play up to, and hopefully, beyond the expectations that comes with their draft position, salary and/or position. BOOM players play lots of downs and, for younger players, leapfrog up the depth chart so that they can be on the field to show their skills. These can be big name players with high expectations or sleepers who will "show up" once the cameras are on.
BUST players, on the other hand, have some average to high set of expectations placed upon them, but sadly, don't live up to the hype of their draft selection, contract or overall athletic ability.
Okay, it's time to play 'BOOM or BUST?!?'
First on the list, the highly touted, but thus far underperforming, Bobby Carpenter. Bobby was a high draft choice from a big time program who came in with big expectations. In 2009, will he be a a BOOM or a BUST?
Next, we have Mike Jenkins. Mike is a 2nd year CB from South Florida with prototypical size and speed who is most commonly remembered for a whiff in a big game where he could have made a tackle last year. Is Mike a BOOM or a BUST?
Then we have Anthony Spencer. Anthony was known for his quick first step which made him a high draft choice and the heir apparent to Greg Ellis opposite DeMarcus Ware. Thus far, Spencer has only shown flashes. What will we see from him in 2009? BOOM or BUST?
What BOOM or BUST list would be complete without looking closely at Isaiah Stanback? Isaiah was a 4th round choice from Washington and is learning to play the WR role in the NFL after playing QB in college. Thus far, he has struggled with injuries, as evidenced by his 2 catches for 24 yards all last year, to get on the field and show what he can...or can't do. You call it; BOOM or BUST?
Along the d-line, another #1 pick, Marcus Spears is under the microscope. Marcus applauded the installation of Wade Phillips' attacking style of 3-4 defense as being just what he needed to showcase his abilities and yet, not much changed for Marcus. This year will mark the end of his 1st professional contract. Is 2009 the year Marcus breaks out? Will he BOOM or will he BUST?
Another d-line suspect is Jason Hatcher. Jason was selected in the 3rd round of the draft and has played in spots at both DE spots in Wade's 3-4. Hatcher has the size and athleticism for the position, but so far has not cracked the starting lineup. Is 2009 Hatcher's breakout year or is it the year where his coaches give up on him because his potential fails to get tapped? BOOM or BUST?
Finally, I would be negligent if I didn't include the team leader on this list, only because of last year's $67 million contract. In an offense that features him and his obvious talents in an environment that is sans T.O., does Tony Romo deliver the goods in 2009? Will he drastically reduce his red zone turnovers and help Dallas make a splash in postseason or does he finish the upcoming season, which is rife with expectations, with the same lingering questions about whether he can get the Cowboys over the hump? BOOM...or...BUST?
Okay, there you have it. Let the games begin!!
GO COWBOYS!
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Spencer and Jenkins BOOM!
Stanback. bust. What ever happened to Hatcher. He was never the same once he got hurt in training camp a couple of years ago.
by beautifultyrant on Mar 19, 2009 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Carpenter is already a bust and its not all his fault. When he was drafted the position was already full of players and he hasn’t had any time on the field. This will be his year though. He will take over for Burnett and if he proves he can handle it good if he can’t he’ll be gone. It’s a little early on Jenkins. The guy was just a rookie last year. He played well enough but wasn’t as good as hoped. He will be given the chance to start this year and we hope he does good. Spencer is another guy who just hasn’t had enough playing time. Once Ellis is gone then he will be given a chance to start. Stanback will be a bust. The track record for QB’s becoming WR’s is not that good, and the one’s who do have success usually aren’t that great they’re good role players. I have no problem with Spears he’s a 3-4 DE and you don’t expect good stats out of them. I think that if Hatcher gets playing time then he could be good. This will be a big season for Romo. Can he prove that he can succeed without Owens. I think that if we run the ball more it would really help him to be more successful. I wouldn’t get rid of him though because it’s tough to find a good QB and he’s in the top 10 in the league.
by jack dein on Mar 19, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Spencer Bust.
Draft Day Rules: Rule #4: If Bill Parcells calls, just hang up. Because whatever he want's to talk about ain't gonna be good for you.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 19, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
Say more…why exactly?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 19, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Consistency.
He’s shown flashes, but so has Carpenter in the past. If either of these were BOOMs, Ellis would not still be here.
by bryangene on Mar 19, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Too early for Spencer.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Mar 19, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Football is not his top priority.
He’s more of a party animal than Romo. I can’t elaborate, but i know this for sure.
Draft Day Rules: Rule #4: If Bill Parcells calls, just hang up. Because whatever he want's to talk about ain't gonna be good for you.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 19, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's depressing
I hope your wrong on this one Glory
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 19, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know people close to him. I'm not wrong.
He can still change though.
Draft Day Rules: Rule #4: If Bill Parcells calls, just hang up. Because whatever he want's to talk about ain't gonna be good for you.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 20, 2009 4:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Generally...
young people with lots of money develop a personality that is very difficult to change unless they experience some sort of humbling experience that forces them to.
So, I’m not betting on it.
But guess what? Pass Rushing OLB just moved up on my personal list of draft needs for the Cowboys. So…we’ve got that going for us. :-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
May, just maybe ...
his encounter with the law earlier this year will throw that switch (though, more than likely, it will just throw the persecuted and non-conformist one). I hope he sees the light.
by GalTex on Mar 20, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my hope is holding on to your last sentence, glory
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Mar 20, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't wanna bust anybody out,
but somebody in my circle is also in his circle. I’m not an insider, I don’t know anything personal about any of the other players, but this one I do.
Draft Day Rules: Rule #4: If Bill Parcells calls, just hang up. Because whatever he want's to talk about ain't gonna be good for you.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 21, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just curious GD
you pretty much matter-of-factly labled him a bust. You also said he can change. How confident are you he can change and do you think we should make OLB a fairly high priority in the draft
by fretman on Mar 21, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think its a big enough need to use #51 on an OLB
Unless somehow Barwin is there. But any of our picks after that, if the value is there, I would consider it.
Draft Day Rules: Rule #4: If Bill Parcells calls, just hang up. Because whatever he want's to talk about ain't gonna be good for you.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 21, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spencer's Trade Value...
Do you think we can package him and another offensive player with some picks for a trade with Carolina? I read something on the ESPN blog, which said the Boys could have packaged TO and Spencer to Peppers.
by thejanusman on Mar 23, 2009 7:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spencer,
from reading the articles in the paper, sounded pretty stubborn when he got arrested. Add the Hard Knocks excuse to the picture along with what you heard about him, and you start to see what kind of kid he is, arrogant, stubborn, resisitant etc. People like that don’t change easily.
by beautifultyrant on Mar 21, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes...
I saw him in L.A. some months ago. He had the whole entourage thing workin’, but wasn’t with Jesssssssssssssssssssssssssssica.
He was out late® than I could hang.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 21, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
was this during the season or after?
just curious if partying during the season really affects guys game or not…..Call me naive, but I always thought that if you are really serious about your game, you’d wait till after the season to go partying etc. Might explain when some people were calling him out of shape?
by texstar on Mar 21, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 21, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So do the really elite athletes party during the season
or are they work-out warriors? I know this sounds stupid, but I always thought they really watched their diets, etc. during the season.
by texstar on Mar 21, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true story
My bosses daughter was hit on by Roethlisberger while she was going to college in Pittsburgh the Tuesday night before the AFC Championship game against the Pats in 2005. He wanted someone to party with that night.
That should answer your question.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 21, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Cutler can be seen at the Denver Bars every day almost
Kid you not seen him there many times saw him actually get in a bar fight
by rioplayer7 on Mar 23, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my concern
was gd88’s comment about football not being Spencers top priority. Its no secret these guys like to party. I want to learn more
by fretman on Mar 23, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spencer is no different
They like to party Romo is not a partier being seen in L.A.
by rioplayer7 on Mar 24, 2009 5:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course it was after
Romo obviously stays in Dallas during the season. He hangs out in LA in the off season because thats where Jess lives.
BTW, I know for a fact that Roethlisberger is a party animal and long before he collected any SB rings too.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 21, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lighten up.....
it was just a question because I’m honestly curious if the elite NFL players can physically play very well during the season if they go out and party. That question wasn’t an attack on Romo, just a question in general about NFL players. BTW, you do realize that you can party in Dallas-duh?
by texstar on Mar 21, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
althetes do go out and party during the season...there's nothing wrong with going out for a few drinks during the week, or whatever....
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 21, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's what I thought....
entirely different sport than say-running marathons etc. Do you remember when Jurgenson was QB of the Skins or was that before your time? I was a little kid, but I remember the poor guy had such a beer gut on him that he could barely move around but he sure could throw the ball..
by texstar on Mar 21, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
on the other hand, you have someone like Colt McCoy on the
Longhorns. Apparently, when he was younger he loved Dr. Pepper but he gave it up because caffeine is bad for you in training.
by texstar on Mar 21, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
back in those days it was alot worse..Bobby Layne's or Joe Namath's or Don Meredith's etc. etc. etc. all partied like rock stars back then... .it was more like softball leagues with beer coolers in the locker rooms afterwards...
I am sure athletes now use a bit more common sense and don’t go out boozing the night before games….but going out on say a thursday or friday night for a few drinks doesn’t effect a Sunday-Monday performance..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 21, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's funny you bring up Meredith.....
because there are some similarities between Meredith and Romo. From what I’ve read, Meredith was a fun loving party guy. Unfortunately, he couldn’t take the Dallas fans when they booed him off the field so he retired way before he should have.
by texstar on Mar 21, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and who can forget
Max McGee of the Packers? Here is a great excerpt from his Wikipedia file:
“In the 1966 season, McGee caught only four passes for 91 yards and a touchdown as the Packers recorded a 12-2 record and advanced to Super Bowl I against the Kansas City Chiefs. Because McGee didn’t expect to play in the game, he violated his team’s curfew policy and spent the night before the Super Bowl out on the town getting hammered drunk. The next morning, he told starting receiver Boyd Dowler, "I hope you don’t get hurt. I’m not in very good shape,” alluding to his hangover.
However, Dowler went down with a separated shoulder on the Packers’ second drive of the game, and McGee, who had to borrow a teammate’s helmet because he had not brought his own out of the locker room, was put into the game. A few plays later, McGee made a one-handed reception of a pass from Bart Starr, took off past Chiefs defender Fred Williamson and ran 37 yards to score the first touchdown in Super Bowl history. By the end of the game, McGee had recorded seven receptions for 138 yards and two touchdowns, assisting Green Bay to a 35-10 victory."
by Cowboy Louie on Mar 23, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good find......i love watching the old vets talk about days of old on NFL films.......some of those old Baltimore teams had some heavy partiers..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 23, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anybody ever read Walt Garrison's book.....
that guy was a “real Cowboy” in every sense of the word. He told some pretty good stories about Meredith and the gang-LOL
by texstar on Mar 23, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is bad news,
Romo the party animal. I knew he went out but not that bad… and with an entourage! I guess he can party all he wants but not during the season…He needs full concentration on being the quarterback of America’s Team, the most recognized team in the world. Romo, bring home a championship!
by beautifultyrant on Mar 21, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before anyone says anything.....
this was on the front page of msn. I didn’t go looking for it. http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=357169>1=28102She just can’t stay out of the headlines can she? haha
by texstar on Mar 21, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol.....Well...We can see where Tony get's his perceived lack of preparation from, or is it vice versa ??...
doh !!
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 21, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad you have my sense of humor.....
I found it kinda funny-lol
by texstar on Mar 21, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you're partying with him....
in which case, MAKE IT RAIN BABY!!!
MAKE…IT…RAIN!!!!
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad to hear
The kid can pounce on a QB like a leopard on a gazelle. I think everyone’s holding their breath that we didn’t bust on him too.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Mar 20, 2009 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which OT said he was the best he ever faced in college?
Was it Joe Thomas?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea..he did...
They asked who gave him the most problems and he said Spencer…that is what got me excited when we got him….
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 21, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's the next Michael Irvin
You know, the guy who can party all night and then wake up as if nothing had happened.
What are Spencer’s practice and film study habits like?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 21, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
Show up for the game, baby!
by beautifultyrant on Mar 21, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
easy there Glory...
that kind of unsubstaiated speculation and rumor mongering we leave to ESPN and the Dallas Morning News…
by SmittyCityMo on Mar 24, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah you think he will be a bust or already is?
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 19, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Carp = BUST
Jenkins = BOOM
Stanback = BUST
Spears = BUST
Hatcher = BOOM
Romo = BOOM
by Impatient on Mar 19, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why BOOM for Hatcher?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 19, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also to clarify a bit more
This is what I expect from them in 2k9
by Impatient on Mar 19, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly as it was intended
Well done, Impatient.
Now, explain your take on Stanback…too many injuries or not enough upside?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you say a guy..
Not drafted in the 1st 3 rounds is a bust?
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
by Wmillion on Mar 23, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carpenter
was a reach where he was drafted. He’s never played anywhere near his Ohio State level. Haven’t seen any heart out of him. This is his year. Listen to the boom. Him Tony , Jenkins and Spears. I hope for the teams sake the others show better , but bust is the word I think.
by oldboysfan on Mar 19, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Jenkins
Will be a Top 10 cornerback next season. That is the only thing I know for sure from the players you mentioned.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Mar 19, 2009 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I got good feelings about Jenkins this year.
He’ll play much better than Henry at the #2 spot. Expect more picks.
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Mar 19, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah..
people are quick to point out the “o-lay” of Ward in the Giants game, but what about him breaking up that would-be Desean Jackson bomb in the first Eagles game?
by Thehomerpimpson on Mar 19, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that a play or what?
If he keeps his head on straight, he got STAR written all over him. He’s not as fast as DRC, but I think he’s got superb instincts when the ball is in the air.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Mar 20, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody really abused Jenkins
…last year the way Santonio did DRC in the SB.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the whole time...
I was thinking…we could’ve had him over Carp….sigh. Super Bowl MVP.
by Thehomerpimpson on Mar 20, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So sad...
I’m still upset that we drafted him solely because of legacy….
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 21, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's Bill Parcells for you...
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 21, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i feel in love with drc last year to and was upset we didnt get him and i was like whos jenkins kindof glad now……..
by regaberto on Mar 22, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my turn
Carp- Bust, He was a first round pick and might be solid but will not be worth the 1st rounder we used.
Jenkies- Boom- Dude will be a beast starting next year opposite Newman
Spencer-Boom- As long as he is healthy all year he will perform, This year with Herring he will learn some pass rush moves to go along w/ his quick step.
Spears-Bust- See Carp
Hatcher- Boom- I think this year in TC we will see the guy we thought we had before he got hurt
Stanback- INC- He will play well in preseason but will not get unto the field to much.
Romo-Boom- This year he will be an MVP candidate, making better reads and cutting down the fumbles.
Also
McQ- INC- Doesn’t get on the field
Free-INC-See McQ
Brown- Bust- 7th round pick will be buried on the depth chart
Ball-Boom- A feeling I guess..in nickle situations he will play decent…remember 7th rounder
Austin-Boom- will win #2 spot, stay healthy and make plays
Bowen- Boom- Spears will not be resigned by the progress of our backup DE
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 19, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Scandrick and Bennett
is there really any concern
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 19, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Less concern for Scandrick than Bennett
Bennett’s head is still a question mark.
I still wonder if he is more Kellen Winslow Junior or Senior?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The dude might some extracurricular activities
But he improved every week so I think he has a passion for the game…And Garrett (John) will make sure it stays that way
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 21, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's still really young..
at only 22, I’m sure we’ll see him mature a lot more over the next few years (as far as off-field shenanigans go).
by Thehomerpimpson on Mar 21, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going all BOOM
How cool would that be?
by Benthere on Mar 19, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
completely awesome...
yet unreasonable
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 19, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alcohol makes me say BOOM!
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only one I'm confident about being a BOOM is Jenkins
Spencer and Hatcher have good chances to become difference makers this season. Hopefully both will become BOOM’s this season.
Spears is neither BOOM or BUST, he is what he is, a 3-4 DE that is good at stopping the run and not much else. Wasn’t worth the pick Dallas used on him, but still he has held the starting job since he got here.
Carp is a BUST, I don’t agree that he hasn’t been given every chance to win a starting job, that’s a BS excuse. He’s been healthy, just not good enough to be more than a backup and ST guy.
Stanback, it’s too early to give up on him. He could go either way, but if he can stay healthy I think he’s leaning towards the BOOM side, but he has the highest hill to climb of the players mentioned to get there.
Romo is already a BOOM in my opinion, but he just needs to prove his doubters wrong that he can’t be successful without TO. I don’t think he’ll have any trouble doing that.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 19, 2009 11:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jenkins…. Boom
Spencer….Bust
Carpenter….Boom
Spears….Bust
Stanbeck….Boom
Jenkins is gonna be the next champ bailey…. Hopefully Spencer Makes Football his priority and becomes a elite pass rusher along with ware.
by regaberto on Mar 20, 2009 12:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Carpenter Boom?
Is that a misprint?
by StillHateTheGiants on Mar 20, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jenkins BOOM
Spencer BOOM
Carpenter BUST
Spears BOOM
Stanbeck BOOM
Romo BOOM
Red and Black!! Red and Black!! Red and Black!! Congrats boys first time in team history over .500
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 20, 2009 12:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why Spears BOOM?
Elaborate please…
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well last year he played pretty well and had his best season as a pro
He had the fourth most qb pressurs on the team even though he didnt play in the nickel defense. His play last year was quite underrated, and I think with a whole season of Wade calling the D, his numbers should go up.
Red and Black!! Red and Black!! Red and Black!! Congrats boys first time in team history over .500
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 20, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a contract year for him too!
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 21, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here we go
Carp – is already a BUST
Jenkins – is on the edge of a BOOM and it should happen this year
Spencer – ditto Jenkins
Stanback – broke, BUSTed, and disgusted
Spears – BUST – he plays decent, but hasn’t met expectations of his draft clout
Hatcher – BUST – just a little flash in the pan, then its over
Romo – BOOM – he has already been to the Pro Bowl, and broken Aikman and Staubach’s stats
add one more
Miles Austin – BOOM, BOOM, BOOM – sounds like a canon going off :)
by BishopWest on Mar 20, 2009 1:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup
High hopes for Austin. He finally gets his chance to shine.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Mar 20, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you need to see from Hatcher to change the grade?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bishop, beware the wrath of CRN1: Chairman of the Stanback fan club...
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and appearantly the only guy that waits more than a season to determine a guys abilities..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 20, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still holding out hope too...
ur not alone
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 21, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you calling the rest of us "Premature Evaluators"?!?!
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 21, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why question Romo?
IMO, the effect Romo has had on the team, rejuvenating it, and infusing it with a youthful exuberance, not to mention breaking every passing record in the Boys’ books en route to a 13-3 record, has been incredible, and would be spectacular for even a 1st rounder, not to mention an undrafted rookie free agent that was buried on the bench behind the likes of Quincy Carter and Drew Henson for several years.
The sound of his boom is like an F-22 Raptor flying 50 feet overhead at mach 1.5. We’ve all been marvelling at the incredible effect he’s had on the team in just his first 2 1/2 seasons of starting, that we are actually grumbling at his warts over the past season when he hasn’t been so much incredible as being merely great.
He can do better protecting the ball when he scrambles or rolls out (especially when taking off with the ball up the field), and he can make a few better decisions, but for a team that has been without real quality quarterbacking since about 1996 (give or take, Aikman was fallng off), he’s given us…Hope.
I just hope the WR corps doesn’t let him down this year, and he studies the basics of QBing a little more in the offseason.
by mdlusk on Mar 20, 2009 5:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
What a beautiful sound….. Romo’s gonna have a good year, I can feel it.
Hooah.
by .FRoST.USAF on Mar 20, 2009 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly, Romo has always been good
his numbers speak for themselves, its not his fault his teammates let him down at the end of each season.
Romo will once again put up a 90+ qb rating and be headed to pro bowl absent any injury which would set him back like last season.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 20, 2009 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I sure hope Romo doesn’t look at it like you do……throwing his teammates under the bus and shifting blame. Everybody elses fault but his.
by StillHateTheGiants on Mar 20, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh Uh
I don’t agree with that comment.
In some posts, you say it’s a team game. Then you drop your guard and toss out a grenade like this one which makes it hard to believe that you take a balanced approach to Romo.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is a team game
which is exactly why all the blame shouldn’t be pinned just on Romo. I never once said or implied Romo was without fault, but what I have done is say one player isn’t the sole reason teams win or lose games.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 20, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said...
“it’s not his fault his teammates let him down”.
That’s T.O. speak!
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the difference is
I’m a fan saying it on a blog, T.O. is a player saying it to millions publicly
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 20, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here I thought you cared about us bloggers...
;-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's fair to question him just like everyone else
He’s the starting QB for the highest profile team in the NFL. He accepted a $60+ million dollar contract. We’ve seen how good he can be (very good) and most of us are fans and want him to succeed. I personally get frustrated because the mistakes he makes look to me to almost always be bone headed plays. I can live with physical mistakes, making the same stupid mental mistakes tells me he either can’t or won’t grow up and learn. In case you missed it, 13-3 was 2 yrs ago. Last yr Romo and the team regressed and missed the playoffs.
by StillHateTheGiants on Mar 20, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a fair question...
If you think about Tony Romo, there is a true dichotomy of opinion about him;
In one camp, he is the savior of the franchise and the next great Dallas QB in a storied line of great QB’s. Many people rate him as a “top 5” NFL QB and think he will win multiple SB’s before his career is over.
But in another camp, people have been dissatisfied with Romo’s maturation. I mentioned in the post that he now gets paid lots of money (does he make more than Brady? can someone check the numbers for me here?) with his $67 million dollar contract and given the controversy that has surrounded him (Newman’s rant, how will he do without T.O.?, fumbles and INT’s in key situations, etc.) and just the overall set of expectations that come with being the QB of America’s Team when surrounded by a solid supporting cast.
When asking why anyone would ask the BOOM or BUST question about a player, I can only assume that you think some players are beyond reproach. I don’t share that view, and as a result, you could argue that we could ask the same question about Jay Ratliff or DeMarcus Ware (but that would make for a listless discussion since the overwhelming majority would sy BOOM for both) or anyone else on the team, but I picked players that I thought would spur interesting debate and discussion.
I hope that helps.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the reason Romo doesn't belong with those other players
is because they haven’t proven themselves within the organization whereas Romo has put up 3 consecutive years of pro bowl caliber play.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 20, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's why I question his inclusion in a "boom or bust" article
Can an undrafted free agent even go bust, no matter how poorly they play? Most just hope to make the practice squad, or maybe be a backup. What has Romo done compared to that?
The only way it is a legit question is if you see his big contract and ask him to justify it from his play after getting the contract. I haven’t looked it up, but he does seem to be making top-notch money even for a QB now (11 mil a year average?). Anyway, that’s pretty high, and for it, he needs to contribute a very substantial amount to the team’s success. He did have what counts as a down year this past year (by his standards). It’s just hard to see questioning his overall ability in a “boom or bust” due to only an average year.
That said he does still have stuff he can work on, that has been already hashed to death. I do hope he is working on it over the offseason, or several more average seasons might mean he is not living up to the billing of his contract, and of his own play over his first season and a half. He also needs to find a way to help the team break out of the December (and January) doldrums.
I think this year will see his play improved, maybe not to 36 TD passes again due to offensive philosophy, but still very good (reducing turnovers and forcing passes), and very worth the money. That is, IF the WR corps can hold up their end, and the OL can play like the 2007 version. That is still up in the air, to me.
by mdlusk on Mar 30, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
by kameleon_o on Mar 21, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a load
By including “expectations”, you miss the point…completely.
As BP used to say, it’s all about talent acquisition. Who gives a rat’s ass where they were taken or how they were acquired? Spears is a very good 3-4 DE that really came on last year.
Further, including 1st and 2nd year guys is way too premature. Fully half of your list are players that have not reached NFL maturity (3rd year). Some, like Brady James and Kevin Burnett, took a full 4 years to contribute.
The fact that we had 13 Pro Bowlers in ’07 and still had quite a showing in a down ’08 should say a lot more than anything else. Why not include all the players? Cherry picking a few on the bubble is weak.
Res firma mitescere nescit
by Fighter15 on Mar 20, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah Fighter...ture to your name, eh?
I welcome your critiques, no matter how bereft of legitimacy they are.
Actually, there might have been some truth in your post had there been more time on your part thinking coherently rather than oh, say…fighting.
Anyway, some quick points;
I think Jerry cares where a player is taken. I think Tom Ciskowski does too. I care. I think others do as well. Otherwise, why watch the draft? why monitor Free agency? I’m sorry you don’t, but you’re entitled to your opinions, no matter how outlandish or unpopular they may be. Lord knows I take a rabidly different perspective at times.
Case in point; obvioulsy, your take on Spears isn’t shared by all. Maybe you want to further elaborate, for the rest of us, why you think he is a BOOM given who he was taken in front of? And isn’t that the real beauty of the Draft, Fighter? The chance to pick it right? I bet, deep down, you agree.
As far as “too premature”, I think that’s kind of funny really. Do you think it was too early to cut Skyler Green because he wasn’t given the requisite 3 years you say everyone must have before they pass through NFL puberty?
How about Kareem Larrimore? You still upset we didn’t spend more time on that one?
Were you a Montavious Stanley disciple? Did Jerry rob him of his 3 years of guaranteed developmental time?
Do you wear a shirt that reads “David LaFleur could have been the Best…TE…Ever”?
Okay, I’m killin’ me right now. I may have a fanpost all around who can come up with the best “If only we’d spent more time on this draft pick!” slogan…I gotta come up with one for Dwayne Goodrich (and if anyone beats me to it, I am gonna be pissed!!!). I hope that doesn’t tick you off but this comedic door is wide open, man…I gotta run with it!!!
Come on, if it’s not too soon to cut them, it’s not too soon to ask what bloggers think about them, is it?
Fighter, you should revise your take on the post, because it’s meant in fun to spur some dialogue. That’s it. Nothing more. Take things a little less seriously, man. Maybe change your name from Fighter to…I dunno…Lover?
Yeah!!! “Lover” might turn your entire world around dude. It might allow you to see the beauty in this harmless little post. And seriously, I am sorry if I offended you. And if you’re actually Marcus Spears, I am REALLY sorry. But if you’re really Bill Parcells, not so much.
;-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 20, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No offense
And nothing personal. But to you’re poll of the greatest “If we gave them time…”, you can start with Jimmy Smith. Even Stephen Peterman (now a $15 million starter) was premature.
And cutting someone is hardly the same as giving them time to develop. They must show you something to be worthy of keeping them on the roster besides where they are drafted. Skyler obviously did not have the talent nor potential. Goodrich and the rest of that god-awefull attempt at getting a replacement for Kevin Smith in 2000. But Mario Edwards showed that first year that he had some talent and was given a few years to develop. Hell, Goodrich was even given 3 years.
It’s not my theory, it was Landry’s and Parcells’. I, like most coaches and GMs simply agree.
As for the “worth”, I just agree with Parcells on that. I was a convert. When you get 6 or 8 or 10 players each year that help your team, it doesn’t matter whether it was via FA, the 1st Round, 7th, or an Undrafted FA. Those that make it are booms, those that don’t are busts…no matter where they are taken.
My only issues were including 1st and 2nd year players (premature by Tom Landry’s standard) and using “expectations” as a factor (BP’s standard).
Res firma mitescere nescit
by Fighter15 on Mar 20, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My last (on this subject at least)
Taking an objective look at drafts and “grading” them is an exercise of hubris, hindsight 20/20 and all. Considering that around half of all picks in the first few rounds will never start for the team that drafts them and even fewer in the lower rounds, why get hung up about comparing them to woulda, coulda, shoulda or Tom, Dick, or Harry.
The draft is simply one method (and I think everyone agrees the preferred method) of obtaining talent. It’s why it’s important and why we care so much. We have to trust that Ciskowski and his scouts have done their jobs well and that Wade and Jerry get the most value they can.
But even if you only look back 4+ years, what does giving a grade to those drafts do? What can be done about it? They hopefully they can learn from past mistakes about talent evaluation, risk vs. reward, etc., but there is nothing to be gained for us in this draft.
Res firma mitescere nescit
by Fighter15 on Mar 20, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet you're a blast at parties...
;-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 21, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Hatcher
Talk about an enigma!
The guy gets picked in the third round as we nab him just before Bellicheat, he goes out and struggles to get reps in the rotation, never lives up to his billing and now, he’s a borderline bust by most accounts.
This is one guy who has all of the tools to be an every down DE in a 3-4 and his contract is coming up soon. Does the light go on this year? Anyone have any inside info on him?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 22, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No inside info.
I just remember when Raf was talking about Hatcher during training camp. I think in 2007. Said he looked like one of the most improved players. Explosive and O-linemen were having a hard time blocking him. Then he hurt his hammy because Stewart had the them run without fulling warming up. Stewart even got yelled at by Jerry for it and we haven’t seen those flashes of potential since. You’re right about the measurables. This guy was supposed to be a small school clone of Mario Williams.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
by kameleon_o on Mar 22, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far...
he’s been the clone of Mario Van Peebles.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 22, 2009 11:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hatcher's got more talent than that..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 22, 2009 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I gotta disagree
Mario VP gave a tour de force performance as Stitch Jones in the classic Heartbreak Ridge. A must see if you enjoy bad movies.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 22, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be advised. I'm mean, nasty and tired. I eat concertina wire and piss napalm and I can put a round in a flea's ass at 200 meters. So why don't you go hump somebody else's leg, mutt face, before I push yours in.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
by kameleon_o on Mar 22, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay...so much for anything football-related with Mario, er, Jason
So, what about Marcus Spears?
There are mixed reviews of him on this informal thread. Some have him booming and some have him as already busted.
Matt Jones, Aaron Rodgers, Roddy White, Luis Castillo, Heath Miller, Frank Gore, O.J. Atogwe and Justin Tuck. They were all selected after Spears. Some good, some bad.
Is he a bust? Does he have this year to redeem himself?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 22, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
to answer the question....
3-4 DE is not a sexy position, and very few, if any, put up numbers that would indicate they are super studs……heck if you can name all four DE starters for the likes of Pitts or Baltimore…you win a cookie…..98% of all fans could not answer that question…
Is he stout against the run ? yes,
Does he free up the LB’s to make plays ? yes.
That’s it, Those are the prerequisites to being an effective 3-4 DE…….
I hardly call him a bust, Canty didn’t do anything much better than Spears, and he just landed 40+ million…If Brooking leads the team in tackles next season, and Ellis/Spencer combine for a dozen sacks or so…A great deal of that success can be traced back to Spears’ performance…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 23, 2009 6:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100%
3-4 DEs are truly the unsung heros in 3-4 defenses, they do all the dirty work but get no credit. Aaron Smith for the Steelers is probably the best football in the NFL nobody has heard of because like you said it’s not a sexy position, however, he does his job as well as anyone in the league but goes unnoticed because you just don’t put up great numbers from the position.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 23, 2009 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
Seymour
I gave up torture for Lent. Between now and Easter plagiarists will be humanely euthanized.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 25, 2009 6:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seymour is the exception to the rule
you’re not going to find too many 3-4 DEs as talented as him.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 25, 2009 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Two Cents
I’m not too keen on all-or-nothing classifications like BOOM or BUST since the outcome is usually somewhere in between. But here goes:
Bobby Carpenter will be the same player he has been the first few seasons with Dallas. That makes him a continued bust that will be shown the door after 2009.
Mike Jenkins will be a nice player next season but will be considerably overshadowed by Scandrick who will be a big BOOM.
Anthony Spencer is perhaps the biggest wildcard on this list. I’m leaning toward bust after being influenced by Glory Dayz’s comments and Spencer’s limited impact to this point in his career.
Isaiah Stanback – bust, bust, bust. I just am not a believer.
Marcus Spears: he will continue to be an average, serviceable player; neither a boom or a bust.
Jason Hatcher: I simply do not have enough information to even formulate an educated guess.
Tony Romo: this is the easiest one of all. He will be a BOOM through Thanksgiving and then turn into a huge BUST for the remainder of the season.
by Cowboy Louie on Mar 23, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Romo breaks the December funk..
But I don’t think it will only be him breaking it…Our team as a whole will fnially break through the December funk this year
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 23, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said
If the team actually starts playing well in December, so will Romo.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 24, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or is it the other way around?
Doesn’t the leader of the team set the pace for the rest of them?
I think good QB’s do well when their team is doing well, but great QB’s can pull their teams out of a rut through force of will.
I saw Manning do it last year in the Jags game when his defense was letting him down and his offense was sputtering. All he did was complete some ridiculous number of passes in a row. None of them were epic. None of them was a scramble around, fumble it, pick it back up and chuck it deep highlight reel throw. He just changed, and by extension, raised his game. He kept the opposing offense off of the field, ate up the clock and eventually led HIS TEAM to a key victory.
I think great QB’s do that. I think they have a mental toughness that is infectious and can rally their teammates in a way that helps them overcome adversity.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 24, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great qbs still need the rest of their teammates to play well
In the Jags game, Manning had receivers get open and his OL blocked well. If the Cowboys receivers and OL play well in December, so will Romo, that was my point.
This isn’t basketball, where one player can take over games, it doesn’t work that way in football.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 25, 2009 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's what your argument missed and continues to miss
In the game, Indy was losing, but it was Manning who elevated the play of his team. His line wasn’t blocking well early, but Manning didn’t fold and start trying to do too much. He took checkdowns, allowed his team to punt the ball away and play field position. He didn’t commit costly turnovers and changed the entire cadence of the game.
Romo has not, to this point, shown me that ability and this year…he needs to or many fans will want to run him and his ditsy girlfriend out of town.
Now, comparing Romo to Manning is unfair and I understand that. But it is the leadership and mental toughness that Tony has NOT YET displayed that I am most anxious to see.
You’re dead wrong, Terry. One great player can indeed take over a game. Not in the same way as a NBA game because it is more intangible than Kobe scoring 81 points, but I’ve seen Emmitt, Peyton, Brady, LT, Csonka, Deacon Jones and others do it on the gridiron and I know you have too…
I hope Romo can do it.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 25, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
individual players cannot take over football games, you might perceive it that way, but it can’t be done.
Those players you mentioned help tremendous help from their teammates to play great, it you truly understand the game, you’ll see it’s simply impossible.
That being said, I agree Romo still has a lot to improve on since he’s only started 41 games in his career. Manning has started well over 100 games, I’m extremely confident that in time Romo will learn how to manage games better. I don’t hope Romo will get better, I know Romo will get better.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 25, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even in your hyper-simplified view...
the only reason I disagree with you is because you are wrong.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 27, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jags probably would've won that game
if MJD didn’t injured and cost them 10 seconds. They were like 3 or 4 yards away from scoring.
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Mar 25, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can you please stop making Romo into some "almost a rookie" status...He's got over 40 games under his belt..
not even mentioning the several years on the bench learning the system….,,,This is his defining season…no “rookie” mistakes….At this point, you either have it or you don’t…….I believe he has it….but this “still maturing” thing is getting really old………He’s a bonifide NFL veteran of over 5 seasons…The training wheels were taken off a few years back…..Your trying to place safety nets all around him like your justifying future mistakes..
He does need to show he can manage games better…and hopefully the turnovers will decrease when he masters the management phase of the game……..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 25, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I obviously disagree
40 games starting isn’t a lot in terms of the qb position, it’s the most difficult position to learn in all of sports. Majority of qbs don’t truly “master” the position until they played at least 5-6 seasons, Romo has only played 3. Don’t give me this learning on the bench crap because you don’t learn on the bench you learn on the field.
Romo’s mauturation process is on schedule and he’ll continuce to get better. To say this is his defining season is ridiculous.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, so what's the difference in your logic because it's definitely flawed.....
you say Romo needs to mature and be patient yadda yadda yadda. However, you say that Carpenter sucks. Couldnt the same logic be applied here? Carpenter’s only been in the league for 3 yrs. You could apply the same logic that “he needs to mature and he’ll continue to get better” but you have written him off. That’s double standards man.
by texstar on Mar 25, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
logic is not flawed nor double standard because you're talking apples and oranges
the qb position is worlds different than ILB in a 3-4. Romo has all talent and ability to be truly great, he just needs time. Carp simply doesn’t have the toughness or physicality to play ILB in a 3-4, it doesn’t matter how long he plays because being tough or physical isn’t something you learn, you either have it or you don’t.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree numba.......
this sounds like over-protective parents doesn’t it? So afraid that little Tony can’t handle the pressure and can’t take criticism. It’s also like some parents that I know that everything is always everybody else’s fault and not their own kid. He’s a grown man-29 yrs. old. I sincerely hope he has a wonderful season and improves but quit acting like he’s some poor little rookie because that’s garbage. He makes a heck of a lot of money (over 60 mil to be exact) and he needs to take leadership of this team this year.
by texstar on Mar 25, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care if he has started over 10000 games...
as long as he improves next year I’m good
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 26, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you simply don't understand
but thats okay, most fans don’t apparently.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you were in the law business?
Now you’re in the player psychology business? Which is it Terry? How do you know what a players/thinks/says? None of us do. You act like you know the guy on a personal level. Come on get real
by texstar on Mar 26, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me tex
It might be easier to bang your head against a real brick wall.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Mar 26, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha accidental innuendo......
sometimes I think that brick wall is less painful btw.
by texstar on Mar 26, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said I know what he thinks
again, putting words in my mouth.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So let me ask this differently
What would you want to see from Romo in 2009 to characterize him as a BOOM player?
On the flipside, what would make you say, “He’s a bust. We need to draft a QB #1 next year.”?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Mar 27, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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