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What's next for the Cowboys in free agency?

Things have quieted down for the Dallas Cowboys after the burst of moves on Saturday afternoon. Do the Cowboys have more moves to make or are they pretty much done? They've filled some of problem spots but others are still there and they created another by trading one of their players. So what's the state of the Cowboys a few days into free agency?

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Star-divide

Everybody knows by now that we lost Chris Canty to the Giants. I always hoped Canty would bust out as a dominant DE for us but it never happened. He was solid but not a player that we can't live without. If you inserted Jason Hatcher or Stephen Bowen in his place my guess is you wouldn't notice much difference in production. He certainly wasn't worth paying $42 million over six years with $17.5 million guaranteed. Jerry Jones actually played it smart on this one. And to show you how out of whack that contract is:

The ex-Cowboys defensive lineman is now better paid than all three of New York's top three defensive ends, Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora and Mathias Kiwanuka.

This is the Giants defensive line. The one everybody in football has raved about for the last few years. They're paying Canty more than Osi Umenyiora! Please. Do you know of any team that said to themselves we need to stop Chris Canty when playing the Cowboys? Did anybody scheme to make that happen? Now think about that same question when talking about Umenyiora. Yeah, plenty of teams said that when he was healthy.

I know that when Canty lines up against the Cowboys twice a year he'll probably have some good games because he'll be motivated, but that's OK, it's no reason to pay him ridiculous money.

My guess is they'll stick with Hatcher or Bowen, or maybe they move Jay Ratliff back out to DE if they can acquire some help at NT. That's one move they could still make in free agency.

After the Keith Brooking signing the question becomes who will play the nickel LB role because I'm pretty sure it won't be Brooking. The guy I'd like to play that role is Kevin Burnett. But that's looking unlikely unless he gets shut out in free agency. He'll get his first chance at a new team today when he visits Oakland.

Last week we heard the news that the Cowboys are actively shopping Roy Williams (the safety) but so far it appears they haven't found a taker. Will they just go ahead and cut RW1 sometime soon? Add on to that the fact we just traded Anthony Henry to the Lions in the Kitna deal and the Cowboys have some decisions to make in the secondary.

It's safe to assume that Ken Hamlin will start at FS and that Terence Newman will man one CB spot. You can probably assume that Mike Jenkins will get first shot at the other CB spot and that Orlando Scandrick will be designated as the nickel guy in the slot. The question is who will play SS and who will be the dime corner (assuming it's not Alan Ball)?

One guy who has been mentioned, but not by the Cowboys organization, is Shawn Springs. He's supposed to visit the Patriots where there was talk of him playing a CB/S position. Well, the Patriots just re-signed their own FS, James Sanders. But they could still be looking at Springs as a straight-up corner. They also were talking to CB Leigh Bodden but he left without a contract.

I guess we'll see over the next few weeks. They'll need to make a decision on Roy Williams and try to pick up some help through free agency. Or they can roll the dice and count on the draft to provide the help in the secondary. That seems risky. Maybe they hold on to RW1 until after the draft or try to trade him during it.

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So...

could Roy Thong Williams become an Eagle and replace Dawkins? Witten sure hopes so. Thong in Philly puts Witten into the HOF.

by Joey2zs on Mar 2, 2009 6:36 AM CST reply actions  

As much as I respected Roy

in the past. That was funny. My son’s school had a book fair, and they had a poster of Roy Williams. One of my 9yo son’s friends wanted it, and my son said don’t waste your money on him. Jerry, are you listening?

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Mar 2, 2009 7:30 AM CST up reply actions  

No Leonhart from Balt just left the jets without signing a contract and the iggles are one of his

next destinations. So they might use him to fill dawkins spot.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 2, 2009 7:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I was

really hoping we’d get Colin Cole along with a good rookie true NT type such as Brace, but now I see that Cole just signed with the Seahags. Maybe we should keep Ratliff at nose and try to find one or two guys who are similar to back him up. That may be easier than trying to find the elusive 6-2 330 monster kind of guy.

by IronCowboy on Mar 2, 2009 6:37 AM CST reply actions  

I know

the Haynesworth signing put the market price for defensive players in the nutsy region, but for the Giants to pay Canty more than their own pro bowl players is just asking for problems unless the are prepared to redo the others contracts. I’m glad Jerry didn’t play this time. I am surprised that the giants did. Thats not their mo. This is probably going to make the Ware deal even more expensive, but he IS an elite player. Any word on the number wanted by Springs or Burnett ?

by oldboysfan on Mar 2, 2009 7:40 AM CST reply actions  

That's the nature of free agency

Once a star (or playing wearing the star) signs a big contract, established players have to look at their contract and decide to holdout or play for what they agreed to. Canty most likely will never be elite, but now every starting DT and 3-4 DE can point at his contract. GMs believe it’s cheap next to Haynestomp’s contract.

The Giants will have trouble keeping their star lineman happy.

by birdness on Mar 2, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

While Ware is an elite

player I am not looking forward to hearing his final contract numbers..thanks Albert..

by MdFan24 on Mar 2, 2009 7:52 AM CST reply actions  

What's the alternative?

Hope to lose big time or reach deep in draft picks for the chance to overpay a top 10 prospect?

by birdness on Mar 2, 2009 8:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Alberts Haynesworth's contract is equivalent to a 4 year / 48 million dollar contract (when you trim all the fat away from it).which isn't really alot considering his status and position...

I always felt Ware would get in the 12-13 million range…which still stands true…….I’m thinking a 6 year / 80 million dollar deal, with 40 million guaranteed…that’s what it will take..Sure you can add (2 more years and another 25 million) on it to give it an inflated look like Haynesworths if you’d like…but Jerry’s not stupid to pay much more, if any, than the figures i threw out there…

by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 2, 2009 8:01 AM CST reply actions  

Jerry will pay Ware whatever it takes

To do otherwise would be stupid

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 2, 2009 8:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Why would Ware accept less?

He’s the leagues best defender (at least top three). Ware plays on the edge, gets to the QB and can cover. If the Titans acquired Ratliff, to replace Haynesworth, how big a hit would their D take? Now consider how big is the gap between Ware and next best DE or OLB?

Ware will set the market.

by birdness on Mar 2, 2009 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Who said accept less ?? If Ware signed a 6 year / 80 million deal it would average 13.33 million, more than Haynesworth's 12 million per..

If you don’t understand, I’ll up the same offer… 8 years / 107 million….with the same 40 million signing bonus..which is actually the contract i’d prefer, spreading the bonus over 8 years instead of 6….but it will still equate to 13.33 million dollars, and more then what Haynesworth’s deal will get him…

by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 2, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe

Daniel Snyder is expecting Congress to give him a bailout, too!

by IronCowboy on Mar 2, 2009 8:47 AM CST reply actions  

haha Dan Snyder probably does

I live less thsn 5 miles away from his mega mansion and I saw him pulling into his driveway after opening his gates wearing a bathrobe
he IS crazy

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Mar 2, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Any word

if anything of note came out of the JJ interview?

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Mar 2, 2009 8:57 AM CST reply actions  

I heard that it was pretty much a certainty...

The he stays.

At least that is what ESPN said a week ago.

I know you can’t trust every source you read, but for some reason I just don’t think Jerry is going to part ways with him.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

It's to the point now

where I would be shocked if he got cut.

I’m not Pro or Anti TO, I just think it would have happened already.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

It isn’t just ESPN, NFL Network is saying the same thing.

by joey7289 on Mar 2, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Carp is a good cover Lb

he’ll play the nickel.

And what’s wrong with Alan Ball? He seems to do fine when he is in the game. But I hope this means they are going to move Courtney Brown back to CB, which is his natural position.

by quincyyyyy on Mar 2, 2009 9:41 AM CST reply actions  

Well DMN is continuing its JJ is clueless campaign, I think the fact that players

and coaches are not giving up much to them has them going through withdrawl right now. They are posting on their blog using ole Jimmy to get in on the fun.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 2, 2009 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

dang

had no idea about the canty hate.

Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"

by Longhorn on Mar 2, 2009 9:58 AM CST reply actions  

I don't think anyone

hates Canty. I think they hate the Giants for paying through the nose for him.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Mar 2, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Now, Profootballtalk.com......

is saying that Cutler wanted out before because he lost Jim Bates-his QB coach. Kinda interesting. Something just occurred to me. If you could trade Romo for Cutler-saving about 20mil in cap space over the life of the contract and get some draft picks would you take it? I sure would. It could be kinda like the Herschel Walker deal. Any takers?

by texstar on Mar 2, 2009 10:07 AM CST reply actions  

No biggie.

I was just venting because the Tony Romo/Jay Cutler trade thing was already rolling in the previous thread, not sure that it needs to be re-hashed in another thread.

by Dave Halprin on Mar 2, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Here's why I don't trade Romo...

Besides the fact that he’s a better quarterback, he would have also handled the trade rumors better. Unlike Cutler whining and bitching to the media about his disastifaction, Romo wouldn’t have said a thing and if pressed by the media, he would have just smirked it off. He might be seriously pissed, but he wouldn’t show it.

by CaliFanInTx on Mar 2, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly, I question Cutler's emotional stability

whereas Romo is rock solid in that department.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 2, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

finally somebody that gets it

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 2, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree....

if he was so smart with the media then why did he say the bone-headed statements after the Philly game and his sit-down with Babe? that’s not exactly being smart with the media. Definitely not in control.

by texstar on Mar 2, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

He explained his Philly statement with Babe. I'm OK with his explanation, apparently you're not...

The guy is at the Ranch more than anyone else working on his game and discussing schemes with Garrett…he’s still trying to improve his game and offensive production…what more can you ask?

by CaliFanInTx on Mar 2, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

the haters want him to be perfect

and for some reason spend every waking at the ranch 24/7 like thats going to make a difference or something. According to them, Romo is not allowed to have a life outside football…in the OFF SEASON!

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 2, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW....

that’s a really mature statement

by texstar on Mar 2, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

so is saying

that Romo and I are seeing the same shrink.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 2, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe you should read your comments then....

just because someone isn’t totally in love with a player doesn’t make them a hater. I’m realistic and know that he has some faults. He does some good things as well. I’m just objective.

by texstar on Mar 2, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

and nobody here

as ever said Romo is without faults, I’ve mentioned them several times, I just don’t harp on them like some fans like to do.

No qb is perfect and that includes HOFers.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 2, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

well Terry - Romo has a lot of good qualities

but to say that mentally he is a rock – well that’s crazy…as a matter of fact…that is really my only problem with the guy is that he is careless with the ball (mental) and he seems unaffected by losing (again – mental)

if i could put Aikman’s brain into Romo’s body – this guy would have won 2 superbowls by now

by McLovin9 on Mar 2, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

The two low points

Golfing on TV with Matt Lauer

Falling into a water hazard in Tahoe

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with the vocal suckitude

That was brutal.

But compared to the whining coming from Cutler’s mouth, it’s not even close who is more mature. I have yet to hear any bitchin and complainin from Romo. The post Philly comments were about the closest, but even those were mild.

Cutler has a great arm, but he’s also garnered a reputation as a big mouth.

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right

Romo doesn’t whine. I’d rather hear him sing than Cutler whine.

by illcowboy on Mar 2, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh don't know about that?

Have you heard his singing? My sheltie doggies sings better than that.

by texstar on Mar 2, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Finally, someone gets what I'm trying to say....

It’s these mental lapses that drive fans nuts.

by texstar on Mar 2, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

i find it interesting that guys like you and Terry....

have zero problem with a guy making $10 million/yr on a superbowl-caliber team putting the ball on the ground consistently and lounging on the beach in Cabo days before the playoffs……oh – he’s young and in love and he’s having fun…who can blame him??

well i can

before you become a celbrity QB – you may wanna try winning something – lets start with a wildcard or divisional playoff game

by McLovin9 on Mar 2, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

i apologize Cali...

i saw you and Terry stroking each other and naturally i thought you were the same person…

but you did mention caring, control and ‘smarter’ and i can argue those 3 points all day long….not by guessing what’s going on in his head – but by watching on the field, and on the beach and in People magazine…

by McLovin9 on Mar 2, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

As I wrote before...

“It’s kind of interesting how so many people can have so many varied opinions when presented with the same facts…”

I don’t see Romo as critically as you do..which is not to say you aren’t correct. I certainly don’t think the guy walks on water or is a sure fire Hall of Famer. I just enjoy watching his game. Guys who I respect in football (Aikman, Staubach and Jimmy) really likes this guy. That’s good enough for me to have a high opinion of Romo…

by CaliFanInTx on Mar 2, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

i love me some Romo....

i will never criticize his talent…its what he does with it that drives me crazy

by McLovin9 on Mar 2, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

...I like his talent too, but my opinion is that he's going about his business in an acceptable way...

But I’m reserving my final judgment for a few more years down the line. If he doesn’t have at least 1 ring on his finger in 4 years, I’m gonna be pissed…

by CaliFanInTx on Mar 2, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

well i'd argue

that the best chance he will have is already gone….13-3…first rd bye, home field thru playoffs, relatively injury free season – with the exception of Glenn and TO at the end of the season

hopefully i am wrong

by McLovin9 on Mar 2, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

He's just starting out...future Hall of Famer Peyton Manning took 8 years to win a Superbowl...shouldn't we give Romo at least that much time?

If the Cowboys get consistently good defensive play at about 80% of what the Steelers get…we’re winning some Superbowls. Key word here is “consistent”.

by CaliFanInTx on Mar 2, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Its all a matter of perspective

its not like he went out and partied in cabo – theres no difference between him going to mexico with a friend, his friends wife and hsi girlfriend, a nd hanging out watching the playoff games and our other players going home with their families.

And seriously, when source after soruce claims that Romo is practice facility all hours, and being one of the only ones to showe up on monday and review stuff with garrett, how can you question his dedication?

The whole team deserves blame for that giants loss, not just Romo. Heck, Tony played about as well as he did in the other two giants games, our guys just didn’t make the plays around him they made during the regular season.

And while Romo is making 10 million a year….hes only #10th highest paid or so in the league. QBs are paid a lot lol. Which means hes probably underpaid. And in a year, when Eli and Ben sign ridiculous extensions at 13-15+mil per year, Romos gonna look like a bargain.

by foyesboys on Mar 3, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep...

I do think that he does need to realize the perception is a huge thing, but the current state of affairs are more then Tony Romo.

Romo has his faults, but he gets more blame sometimes then warranted.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 3, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

He needs to realize that what he says, even some philosophical psycho babble mumbo jumbo like what he spouted after the Philly loss, is taken waaaaay too serious by some fans. I believe he was in pain and that the loss meant a lot to him but you can’t ever let anyone think that it doesn’t mean anything to you or they’ll start questioning your heart. Like you, I believe this team has a lot of problems to work on before they even get to Romo.

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

by kameleon_o on Mar 3, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I strongly disagree

I think Romo’s attitude is great..wouldn’t change a thing.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 3, 2009 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't agree with this

towards the end of last season, there was pure confusion on the part of our offense. That is Romo’s responsibility – he has to know whats going on, whose at fault and how to change it. When thigns go bad, he sits alone on the sideline and looks beaten, and thats just not good for the team. In addition, he is a tad too nonchalant about his turnovers (understatement)

When it comes to his dedication, I don’t question Romo.

by foyesboys on Mar 3, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Romo is still young and inexperienced

for a qb in the NFL, obviously he is still a work in progress and will continue to improve on his flaws over the next several years, but his potential for greatness is limitless.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 3, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

He's not...

that young.

This is year 3 1/2 as a starter, the youth thing no longer works.

I’m a huge Romo fan, but the he’s young thing doesn’t work for me anymore.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 3, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

for an NFL qb he is

QBs in the NFL don’t really fully master the position until they’ve played at least 5-6 years. The 3 year rule applies to all other positions, but not QB.

You can’t look at his chronological age, you have to look at his experience level, thats where he is really young.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 3, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude...

This is what, his sixth year in the NFL?

I’m a ROMO FAN, but I’m not sniffing his jock unlike you.

I think he’s a great QB but he has 2 1/2 years as a starter and then another couple looking from the bench.

He’s young but not THAT young. When he makes a mistake you can’t be like “Oh well he’s young”, no he’s been watching and playing in the NFL for a while now.

He still has room for improvement, but this year he should be hitting his stride as a starting QB.

I know about the NFL dude, probably more then any grown man should.

I don’t think Romo should be the “master” of being a QB, I do think however that he can learn to be more careful in the redzone and not hold the ball out like it’s a loaf of bread.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 3, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I've stuck up for him, even when it comes to his turnovers, but

he really does project the idea that his turnovers don’t really matter. That’s just the wrong thing to say to the media and fans. Never say your pick was “just as good as a punt”. That’s crazy.

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

by kameleon_o on Mar 3, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

this is definitely true

Romo handles the media as well as any qb out there, last thing the DALLAS COWBOYS would need is a qb who can’t hold things together.

by foyesboys on Mar 2, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

ROMO is all about the media…just check this week’s People magazine…guarantee you Romo is the only NFL QB mentioned…with the possibility of Brady due to the fact that he got married

Romo loves him some media….woot!

by McLovin9 on Mar 2, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Do a golf special

with Timberlake and Lauer. That is not low key. Playing with your friends at your country club is; not a network broadcast.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Not the best necessarily

but it completely refutes your assertion that he is low key. You only do garbage like that if you desire to enhance your media presence.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not crazy

but it evidences a strong desire to bolster his media presence, which is completely unnecessary. Play golf, drink beer, chase skirts – that is all normal stuff. Judging Miss America, falling in water hazards and hanging with Lauer suggests that he is way too conscious of his fame.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Romo loves golf

And he’s dating a celeb. If those are the only 2 reasons why people think he’s some kind of media whore, then people are unfairly judging him.

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

He loves golf

and is good at it. fine, play golf. But playing golf with Timberlake and Matt Lauer on TV isn’t about golf, it is about celebrity. Go play some scratch players at Preston Trail or Colonial, no cameras, no Lauer.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sure he does that too

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Then he shouldn't

need to do media contrived stunts to get his golf fix, and he does them for publicity.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe it was for a charity

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Objection, speculation

He who asserts must prove.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I did preface it with "maybe"

Plus, didn’t you assert he did it for publicity? I think he gets plenty of that as the starting QB for Dallas, but that’s just me.

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

While it isn't for the golf

because he can play golf without Matt Lauer, so he must get off on the publicity. Yes he gets it for being quarterback, but he also seems to seek it.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I have nothing against golf

I play 100 rounds per year, but not of them are contrivances with faux backslapping of non-talent network celebs. I wouldn’t do that to my pride, or to the game which has given me so much.

As for Lauer, he is like a modern day Alan Alda – a new age male celebrity who woos women viewers with his sensitivity and non-threatening style.

Where did you go Steve McQueen – a neutered nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow...modern day Alan Alda?

I think I’m seeing Matt in a new light…

by CaliFanInTx on Mar 2, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Matt Lauer is a modern day Alan Alda, that’s funny.

The Steve McQueen line is also great.

Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm...maybe you're right...

I’m begiining to think that Romo should be at the Ranch practicing for 16 hours a day and home sleeping the other 8. Wait, he doesn’t need 8 hours of sleep. 4 will do just fine. Hmmm…come to think about it, Dammit! he needs to forego sleep and spend that time studying the playbook.

by CaliFanInTx on Mar 2, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

You are missing the point

with your focus on sarcasm.

I am not saying he isn’t entitled to a personal life. I am saying that he makes choices which make his life much more public, and from that I conclude that media attention for non-football endeavours is something that he enjoys.

So, in your words, that is something “he actually does to get media attention.” Judging Miss America and falling in a water hazard also qualify.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

He's in the media because people are interested in him.

The media recognizes that there is interest, so they cover everything he’s doing. Name 2 other judges of the Miss Universe pageant, I know I can’t. I understand what you’re trying to say…we don’t want a media “whore” for our QB. I get that, but in my opinion he hasn’t done anyhing that makes me think he’s in it just for the publicity. You may feel that way, I just don’t. You want a media whore? Look at Paris Hilton…

by CaliFanInTx on Mar 2, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would he do Miss Universe/Miss America

Why would be play golf with Timberlake on TV?

The only possible reason is for publicity because those are both media-contrived events that anyone who didn’t seek publicity would avoid like the plague.

We have a celebrity QB, and I hope he can rehab. I have a feeling,as many do, that this is a watershed year for our boy. I hope it goes well or next season will be even gloomier.

Were you ever in the valley, where the way is dark and dim? Did you ever drink the cup of loneliness with him?

We have all drank from the bitter cup this off season. It is only March and it feels like we have had six months of post season misery.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Why did he do Miss Universe?

Geez if you don’t know the answer to that, you’re not paying attention…

“Were you ever in the valley, where the way is dark and dim? Did you ever drink the cup of loneliness with him?”

Damn! I don’t even know how to respond to that statement…it’s like the Earth is comng to an end…

by CaliFanInTx on Mar 2, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

If you think

he needs to do Miss Universe to wheel some action, you are confused. Those gals still have chaperones.

Romo can walk into a mall in Dallas and exit 5 minutes later with talent on each arm.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 2, 2009 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah im thinking romo gets invited to these things

and he hasnt yet realized that u cant always show up at these events without people criticizing you
he’s learning that now, aikman said “you damn well better worry about perception”
or something like that idk

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Mar 2, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm Willing to Bet

that no one turned those roles down.

While few players receive the publicity that Romo does, two things are true:

1. There are players, as active in similar events, who are not accused of being fame-hungry.
-Peyton Manning is in more commercials than the voice over guy
-Jason Taylor wasn’t accused of being fame-hungry until he missed part of training camp. When he and Tony Gonzalez were in the SI swimsuit edition holding up models, no one criticized them.
-Emmitt Smith played in celebrity golf tournaments. People usually seemed impressed that he was doing it; I don’t remember any frowning.
-Didn’t Tom Brady get two supermodels pregnant? If both girls showed up to the same Pats game and got into a (really hot) fight, Jessica Simpson wearing a pink jersey is still the bigger story.
-I’m not sure what Matt Leinhart has been doing lately, but the reason I’m not sure strengthens my position that Romo’s publicity is largely outside his control (the reason being that “Leinart does X” just wouldn’t make the news the same way that “Romo does X” does)

Most NFL players involve themselves pretty significantly in the public sphere, it’s just that Romo’s involvement is more emphasized.

It’s not his fault; it’s the product of bastardized, for-profit media. The truth is that more people will stop at ESPN or click on a link if it concerns the Cowboys than for any other NFL franchise because the Cowboys have more fans AND more “haters” than any other team.

When Jerry Jones said that Marion Barber’s toe was fine (but calf was injured), the headline likely to attract the most attention won. “Delay in Barber’s Recovery” just doesn’t have the same effect on stupid people as “Jones Questions Barber’s Toughness; Dallas Locker Room In Turmoil” does.

Dallas is highly scrutinized as a team, AND Romo, as the team’s Pro Bowl QB will necessarily attract a lot of that attention. The fact that it’s difficult to name many of the other players dating celebrities and playing in golf tournaments DOES NOT MEAN THAN NO ONE ELSE DOES IT.

The things that we hear about occasionally (players carrying guns, having crazy parties on boats, etc) happens daily, but we only hear about these things when they’re “newsworthy.” If TO and Hank Basket say the same thing, TO’s comment is infinitely more likely to be reproduced (and probably misconstrued). Just for fun, I looked up the 2009 celebrity golfers and found quite a few NFL players (http://www.tahoecelebritygolf.com/PlayerList.html). Romo is one of 13 current NFL players scheduled to play in 2009, but you just don’t hear anyone calling Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Shaub, AJ Hawk or Aaron Rodgers too Hollywood

2. Romo has more available opportunities than most (nearly all) . You know damn well Tavaris Jackson or Matt Shaub would love to be doing Peyton’s big dollar commercials, but will never have that opportunity. Likewise, there’s a mediocre golfer in the NFL wishing he had been invited and as CaliFanInTx said, who wouldn’t want to judge the Miss Universe Pageant? If you walk down a street and offer the opportunity to ten men and more than 1 rejects, you’re probably hanging out in the Castro.

Assuming that Romo is involved in more public events than most, his decision to accept such opportunities cannot be compared with the (lack of) decision that Jason Campbell (never) undertook. Most of the NFL players competing in the celebrity golf tournament are winning QBs, there are probably countless backup players, or players bad/unpopular temas who can swing a club and would have jumped at the chance to play.

ONLY demonstrating that other players are presented with the same opportunities and turn them down can help to establish your argument; it should be undisputed that not everyone had the opportunity to do the things Romo did to piss you off.

PS-I’m going to assert that Vick did the whole dog thing to get out of his contract with the Falcons; he just didn’t want to play with Roddy White for some reason. I don’t really have anything to support this claim, but it was my subjective intuitive inference and therefore supercedes all reason and factual application.

by NICK L on Mar 3, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Did anyone else

play in the NBC special with Timberlake and Lauer? Did Romo have a choice? Could he have played golf not in front of the cameras? Why did he choose such a spectacle?

Did anyone else fall in a water hazard?

When you are perceived as a goof off, you should tidy your kit and put public play time aside. Romo chooses not to, and loves the publicity. He has a choice, knows the consequences, and embraces them.

He isn’t Matt Schaub, he doesn’t play for anyone but the Cowboys, and that isn’t changing. His actions attract a higher level of scrutiny, and he needs to realize that.

Judging the Miss Universe pageant puts you on track to be centre square in Hollywood squares in 20 years. It is a meaningless, outdated contrivance that is on its last legs. Who would choose to be associated with third rate crap like that? As for the women, there are more attractive and appealing women to be found.

Pasadena, 2028.

“I’ll take Tony Romo in the centre square, for the win”.

“Tony – what major American city gets the most annual rainfall?”

“Well, Tiki, I’ll say Seattle – ’cause they have the slipperiest footballs!” Cue laugh track.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 3, 2009 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

come up for air guys-lol...

just wait till tomorrow when some others read this. It’ll get interesting.

by texstar on Mar 3, 2009 12:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Come up for air

You sound as if we are making out.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 3, 2009 12:45 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL-let me clarify....

I meant take a deep breath-time out-I’m joking of course. Be ready for the wrath tomorrow.

by texstar on Mar 3, 2009 12:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry for the novel

“Did Romo have a choice? Could he have played golf not in front of the cameras? Why did he choose such a spectacle?”
I think you know why this doesn’t logically lead to your conclusion UNLESS you can show me who is being offered these types of opportunities and isn’t taking them.

“Did anyone else fall in a water hazard?” Isn’t your argument that Romo deliberately draws attention to himself? How does an ACCIDENTAL FALL help to establish that?
Romo’s competitiveness led him to try to make a shot when he was tied for first place. A lot of people want to question Romo’s competitiveness because he’s rational and intelligent enough to deal with losing the RIGHT way, but the guy who kept getting up hit after hit last season wasn’t going to let a pond stand in his way of winning.

Unfortunately, he didn’t succeed and fell to 3rd(like in Seattle), but he also took that fall in the water pretty well.

There is a big difference between not caring about winning and not caring if you’ve already lost. The latter is rational, healthy and it’s what a guy who kicks himself after a loss wishes he could do.

You can’t just assume that wanting to win and not caring about losing are reciprocal. After losing:
-It’s too late to do anything
-Being upset achieves nothing (except maybe your approval)
-In the long run, only productive things will help (like the hard work that Romo always puts in during the off season).

Losing your season finale (badly and with playoff hopes on the line) is bad, but Romo’s right that it’s not as bad as being Jon Kitna…Shawn Taylor…Starvin’ Marvin (A hungry African kid in a South Park episode).

What’s wrong with having a rational human perspective? He’s absolutely right that he’ll have had a good life if that’s the worst thing that happens.

Anyone know how to make a Poll?

Let’s see who thinks Tony Romo’s life is pretty good (despite two bad losses). He’s talking about life, not sports. And in reality, if being born in the US doesn’t automatically suggest a pretty damn good life, having the opportunity to even sign with an NFL team does. (He specifically said “losing in a sporting event” showing that he wasn’t

by NICK L on Mar 3, 2009 1:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Whoops

My apology turned into a sequel.

by NICK L on Mar 3, 2009 1:23 AM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't matter who else was offered

He could have turned it down, but chose the spotlight. The opportunities and choices of others are irrelevant.

Nobody accidentally falls in a water hazard. It was a pratfall.

I’m not saying he doesn’t have a good life – I am saying he has to be a quarterback first, and a celebrity second, and right now he is on the cusp.

I don’t think it helps that his ladyfriend is essentially one of those people who is famous for being famous.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 3, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Hollywood Squares

I have to say that was hilarious and really well thought out.

by NICK L on Mar 3, 2009 1:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Damm Nick, well put. Arent you going to Law school.

Let me know when you pass the bar. Everyone needs a good lawyer.

by squidlo97 on Mar 3, 2009 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

This golf point is a ridiculous point

If you want media attention, you don’t play in amateur golf events. Honestly, who watches these things?

Romo is probably the best golfer out of the nfl, nba, mlb bunch. Therefore, its not that crazy for him to be in a real event GOLFING cause hes actually legit.

by foyesboys on Mar 3, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

He played with them because he got to play on the U.S.Open course

in the exact conditions that the Pro Golfers were going to play with the next day. He has been trying to qualify for years and probably wanted to see how he stacked up with the Pros scores. From the pictures I saw they were playing and he was grinding. You dont think competitive people the world over wouldnt take advantage of that opportunity. Think Jordan wouldnt have.

by squidlo97 on Mar 3, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

exactly

playing golf under those conditions actually is great for the mental part of playing football, anytime an athlete has a chance to compete, he should do it.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 3, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Compete?

It was hits and giggles with celebrities.

A tough course, yes. Competition – no.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 3, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

obviously you don't play golf

golfers don’t compete against other golfers, they compete against the course.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 3, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

FOR THE ROMO ARGUMENT...

Let me preface this by saying I vomited a little in my mouth when I saw the DMN posting TMZ vids, but you can’t argue with Romo being low key after this video…

http://sportsmediablog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/03/no-tony-nothis-is-really-reall.html

I didn’t get any audio b/c I’m at work, but the dude literally RUNS from the paparazzi. Now I’m sure someone will argue he brought this on himself, but I figured I’d either pee/throw gas on the fire haha…

by AikmanNailedMySis on Mar 3, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

yes I can

All he was doing was having dinner in Hollywood where his girlfriend lives, if he loved the spotlight, he would have posed for the cameras and hammed it up, instead he ran for his vehicle, thats low key to me.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 3, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

You must not golf

Hogan said there is golf, and there is tournament golf. Pressure is in tournament golf. If you are playig the course and dunk one OB, there is no consequence. Do it on the 71is hole of your state amateur and there is.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 3, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Just to play devils advocate...

You can’t really judge someone’s competitiveness.

Everyone is different in everything.

I don’t want to lose at anything, doesn’t mean I can’t accept it, but I’ll compete if its a scrambled egg eating contest.

From what I have read, he’s a pretty competitive guy too.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 3, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Dude constructively...

It’s hard to take you serious when you comment on Romo.

Most of the time I agree with you, but you crush so hard on him that people automatically assume you’re just on your romo-love campaign.

It’s too bad because more then not you seem like you know what you’re talking about (besides the pittsburg scheme thing).

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 3, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

No it wasn't

It was him, Timeberlake, Lauer and some guy with cancer playing for the NBC cameras.

Why do you say it was a tournament?

Who were the competitors? What was the format?

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 3, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Nah it was a tournament

The one where he fell in the water was at a tournament.

It was a celebrity golf tournament.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 3, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I am not talking about the tournament

I am talking about the made for TV event that Terry is calling a tournament.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 3, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

it was a tournament

it was to see if an amatuer could break 100 on a legit US Open course, like I said his competition was the course, not Timerlake or anyone he was playing with.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 3, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Tournament

What was the name of it? It sure looked like a made for TV exhibition to me.

Did the competitors place by gross or net scores?

So it was a tournament with absolutely no competition between the competitors?

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 3, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

thats correct

I don’t think it had a name, but I know it was played the week before the US Open and it was held to see if an amatuer could break 100 on a US Open course with really high rough and super fast greens.

The players obviously used their gross scores, handicaps didn’t matter.

Romo said trying to score low on that course really helped him in terms of mental preparation for the football season. If you don’t play golf then you wouldn’t know how mentally challenging that game can be.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 3, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

It must have helped

because he had a hits and giggles attitude towards the Ravens.

I know how mentally challenging golf can be, and I know it is a different game when there is money or a title on the line.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 3, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

When you play golf you play the course.

i send him a memo to be an asshole so you can be impressed by his toughness.

by squidlo97 on Mar 3, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Play the course

for fun, play the field for competition. An exhibition hits and giggles event involves no pressure or competition, but Terry thinks it steels Romo for December.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 3, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

thats not true

A golfers competition is the course, ask Tiger Woods, he’ll tell you the same thing.

Trying to score low on a legit US Open course under real US Open conditions is very tough. Try it sometime.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 3, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

If Tiger shoots 8 under

and Toms shoots 6 under, does Toms get a trophy for beating the course?

No.

I’m not saying it isn’t tough Terry – I am saying there was absolutely nothing riding on it, depite you calling it a tournament.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 3, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

okay, I'll call it a challenge

same difference, you’re playing the course.

There was no trophy for the winner, it was just a challenge to see how well you could score on a US Open course.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 3, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Safety Dance...

Grizz… Agree it’s too risky going into this year and hoping to start a rookie at safety. We obviously will look to draft one, and hopefully he’ll see signficant time as the season progresses. But we need a stop gap. Obviously, all of the Henry to safety talk on these threads are now moot.

At this point what our options? (1) Bring back RW1—unlikely; (2) Rely on Alan Ball— equally risky; or (3) sign a FA. Most of the good ones have already signed. Springs is out there, but he’s rumored to want a starting QB job and is drawing interest from other teams. Seriously, who else is there? At the risk of getting flamed, I’m almost thinking we re-work a deal with RW1 and hold onto him until we have a rookie ready to step up. Not my first choice, but what other options do we have?

by Boundforbeach on Mar 2, 2009 10:29 AM CST reply actions  

If we don't get Springs...

…I think we are going to be rolling with a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick as our opening day starter at SS, with Keith Davis or Pat Watkins backing him up.

I’m not overly enthusiastic about this scenario.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Mar 2, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Tra Battle

is a valuable backup as well
he’s a smart player and brought 110% on every play, like scandrick and choice did
he played solid when he had to go in for an injured keith davis, so keeping him as well isnt a bad idea

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Mar 2, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I completely forgot about Battle

He did look really decent when he saw the field. He had a lot of fire on special teams too…

by AikmanNailedMySis on Mar 2, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Listen, I like Tra Battle as much as the next guy...

…but he can’t cover worth spit. He is a hitter and a special teamer. Like Keith Davis, but smaller.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Mar 2, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

That's kind of how I feel...

You don’t want to start a rookie safety, but if they’re you’re best alternative, then you gotta do what you gotta do.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know

why everyone keeps talking about this. Roy is not getting cut and he will start at SS when the season starts. There is only one player in the draft that could possibly beat him out and that’s William Moore of Missouri. Starting a rookie would mean disaster.

by jevans1729 on Mar 2, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

there is no way

a rookie could be more of a liability in coverage than RW1, absolutely no way.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 2, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Well....

That’s a bit much. I’m sure there are rookie safties that are worse.

I just don’t think it’s that absurd to think that Roy Williams will be cut.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Roy gets blamed for more than his share of coverage breakdowns, a rookie would go through the growing pains of adjusting to the speed of the game and the more complex offenses.

I think the fact they are shopping him, his salary, and some of his recent statements to the media, all point to him leaving this off-season. But it’s not set in stone yet.

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April 25-26 -- NFL Draft

by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

if we pick up a safety early in the draft, theres no reason why he can’t be as good as what we have to start the season… with a good possibility of improvement as the season goes on…

by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 2, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

There is upside to letting a good rookie play if he is equal to or better than other options. He should get better as the season goes on.

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by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

You seriously..

Think that there is only one rookie that could beat Roy Williams out?

I don’t see it.

Plus….William Moore? He’s not even the best safety coming out.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

William Moore has

the best POTENTIAL of any saferty coming out. As it stands right now RW1 is the second best safety on the team. Why would you cut him and have no idea about who will replace him? We already know there is no one on the current roster who is better or we wouldn’t be discussing this. I can’t see cutting the guy and HOPING I get someone better. If you KNOW you have someone better than it’s a different discussion.

by jevans1729 on Mar 2, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe not...

but I don’t think it’s out of the equation.

You’re right, they might hang on to him until at least the draft.

One way or another, Dallas needs to draft a safety.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Ive never understood why so many are adament about a guy leaving when there is absolutely no one to replace him.

Even if we get the best safety in the draft we better wait until he beats out the incumbent in TC. Roy should go now only if a veteran is signed or he is a cancer or a nice draft pick.

by squidlo97 on Mar 2, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I for one,

agree with you. However, with the success of players like Ed Reed with 9 INTs and Michael Griffin and Archuleta with 7 apiece, you now have the rest of the league looking for those types of combo safties that can cover WRs.

by jevans1729 on Mar 2, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's pretty harsh

Especially for a guy who was a playmaker just a few seasons ago.

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by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

You think thats expensive?!!

What about 2(not one) slow RBs going 80+yards right down the middle of the field costing us the playoffs and what little bit of balls we had left. That cost us! He cant cover but can tackle better than any other DB we have and I believe that he makes at least one of those tackles. I want him replaced but with someone better.

by squidlo97 on Mar 2, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL - well i guess a 15yd penalty for horsecollar would be better than letting one of those runs got for a TD

but i guarantee that Thong would have launched a shoulder (no arms) and whiffed on one of those runs

i’m being funny – but Thong is not a good tackler

by McLovin9 on Mar 2, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

He was the 2nd leading tackler the year before he got hurt.

I agree he does try to blow people up instead of just wrapping up. You will also notice I said only one of those tackles because I felt he would have whiffed on the firsrt on as well.LOL

by squidlo97 on Mar 2, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

this is sad to say - because i actually do hate on the Thong

but i am more worried about cutting him and having the current guys in there…KD/Watkins/Hamlin…Hamlin clearly isn’t made for the SS position and i dont think that KD can do it….Hamlin (FS)/KD(SS) or Hamlin(SS) /Watkins(FS) scares me

i would like RWI to stick around another year at a reduced price

by McLovin9 on Mar 2, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure i hate roy he sucks plain and simple and if any of you think he has any value to this team

I hope we never find out.He’s gotta go who gives a f what he’s done for us he sucked before he got hurt.Now he’s gonna be protecting that forearm. If you guys remember he made like one play after they made Horsecollar rule. Since then he done jack. He’s not all of a sudden gonna find some heart especially after hes pretty much broken himself on back to back plays.He is a straight up liability and if he’s on this team next year we may not make it out of the division again. I cannot stomach another game on the line with Roy out there.

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Mar 2, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't sugarcoat it

Tell us how you really feel.

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by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Marcus Dixon

I’ve been wondering if the team feels Dixon made a lot of progress with a year on the practice squad under his belt. It would seem that he might fill 1 of the 2 open DL spots, depending on the draft and the remainder of FA.

Raf and Grizz, you guys saw him at camp last year. Was there anything you guys saw that would lead you to believe that he could be at least a rotational guy?

by Ridgelake on Mar 2, 2009 10:30 AM CST reply actions  

Possibly

Raf was much higher on Dixon than I was. I saw a guy who worked hard and had some physical talent but he wasn’t on the level of being a player in the NFL yet. A year on the practice squad might have helped him out a lot, he was raw at camp. I can’t say that he’s someone I could depend on yet until I see him at camp again this year and check his improvement. He had potential but was not ready.

by Dave Halprin on Mar 2, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

For that money

The Giants can keep Canty…hope he plays end, so we can run a sweep right at him. Although he’ll probably play DT, so big can push him around.

by joey7289 on Mar 2, 2009 10:39 AM CST reply actions  

I wouldnt be surprised to see Scandrick get the start

Jenkins just didn’t seem to be a great tackler, and looked more the rookie last year. I also am immensely dissappointed we didn’t pick up the Raider’s SS gift.

Something tells me Jerry’s deep pockets have a few holes in them this year, and that you will see contracts across professional sports “adjust” over the next year or so to the economic realities of tomorrow.

Duane Thomas, Calvin Hill, Dorsett, Herschell, Emmitt ... and now MBIII, Felix, AND Choice!

by DalaiLuke on Mar 2, 2009 11:33 AM CST reply actions  

Scandrick is better in the slot so I don't see the staff changing much from last years secondary coverages.

Wilson was not worth the 5 years $25Mil the Dolphins paid. You’re right about “selective pockets” of JJ. C’mon as fans don’t we feel pretty good about how we have approached player acquisition the past 2-3 years? I thought we might have gone south after Parcells left, but it almost seems like we’ve improved.

by CaliFanInTx on Mar 2, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

When we had injuries to starters last year, Scandrick stayed in the slot and Jenkins took the starter’s role. I’d look for the same this year. Jenkins starts, Scandrick plays nickel.

"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee

by BigDinSC on Mar 2, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

i like both of our young corners...

i cant wait to see what both can do with a off season strength and conditioning program…

by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 2, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I LOVE IT!!!

Osi was already bitching about a new contract, now it’s gonna get even louder, and with his best bud D Ware primed to get a huge payday, he’s gonna want similar money. I’m just waiting for a reporter to ask OSI or Tuck about Cantys contract. Please let this blow up on the Giants. Please!

by CaliFanInTx on Mar 2, 2009 11:39 AM CST reply actions  

Nice

It is crazy to think of Canty making more than Tuck and Osi, playing a new position.

NY needs more drama.

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by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Mar 2, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

The problem I see with the secondary now

We all know Newman struggles with injuries. What happens if Newman gets hurt again next year? Then you have Jenkins and Scandrick both starting and Ball at the nickel. That seems like it ould be a disaster, depending on how much Jenkins and Scandrick improve. For that reason I think another decent corner needs to be added. He doesn’t have to be as good as Shawn Springs but he should at least be a capable nickel corner.

by Brendan Scolari on Mar 2, 2009 1:41 PM CST reply actions  

i agree

thats why im thinking jerry really is going to be bringing pacman back
i hope not

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Mar 2, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah

I don’t see Pacman being the guy. Otherwise they would have never cut him in the first place. I’m thinking it’ll be a lesser name guy.

by Brendan Scolari on Mar 2, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

No way

He sucked after the self inflicted suspension, plus he pissed off Jerry. He’s gone for good.

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by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

He could bring pac back considering

Jerry picked up an extra draft pick for the suspension and he could still have the player to boot; one who already has a season in the system and could again be had on the cheap. It all depends on Jerry’s risk-reward assessment.

Most people would consider it an unreasonable, inadvisable risk but Jerry isn’t most people. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he did.

Oh... Oh, that's giving me a clue. Yeah, ye-yeah, I've got a raging clue right now.

I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...

by icStars on Mar 2, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

There is a pretty big list

of decent mid-level corners out there right now. I just read on ESPN.com this list of names:
Bryant McFadden-Pittsburgh
Ron Bartell- St. Louis
Philip Buchanon- Tampa Bay
Jabari Greer- Buffalo
Dre’ Bly- Denver
Patrick Surtain- Kansas City
Chris McAlister- Baltimore
Chris Carr- Tennessee
Eric Green- Arizona
Drayton Florence- Jacksonville

Not all of them are great, but at the right price, a couple of them would be worth taking a look at.

First to six!!!

by sduncan24 on Mar 2, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe not...

Jabari Greer kept Leodis Mckelvin on the pine last year and that dude was ready to play.

I know the Pats are looking at Greer too.

McFadden is physical, but I question his consistency. Don’t forget, he benefitted from playing with the best pure pass rush in the NFL last year.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Mar 2, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd take Greer.....

the only reason people are not more aware of him is because he’s on the Bills.

by texstar on Mar 2, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

didnt he pick off romo twice? but romo did throw like 5 picks that game; still i like greer as well

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Mar 2, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

He'll be expensive too

Scratch the CB’s who are starting quality because the market is over inflated right now. Look for a vet who is good enough to play nickle/dime and won’t break the bank.

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by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying you break the bank but not so fast there....

You’re willing to turn the reins over to 2 young-uns right? The odds are against us that Newman will make it thru a whole season right? My point is, you better have somebody better than an average corner cause you have three unknowns-2 young uns and one prone to injury corner. I’m not willing to risk it.

by texstar on Mar 2, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Answers

Yes, the 2 rookies are expected to be #2 and #3 on the depth chart.

The odds are not for or against Newman getting injured any more than any other starter. Injuries happen, but you can’t afford to sign a starter if the top 3 spots are already set. You have to risk it, and hope it works out.

Alan Ball, a possible draft pick, and hopefully a vet who is willing to accept 3rd/4th string type money is all you can expect. But really that should be enough.

Forget McFadden, Greer, Bodden, even Carr (he’ll get more because he doubles as a returner) those guys are all going to get serious deals somewhere.

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by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn't expecting to get any of the guys you just mentioned...

I would want someone like a Springs that is very good and could help out with the young-uns if Newman were to go down. I’m still not that impressed with Ball.

by texstar on Mar 2, 2009 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I would like Springs too

But he’s already left NE without a deal, now he’s going to NO (who is starved for CB help) . He might be wanting one more nice contract. We’ll see.

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by APerfectStar on Mar 3, 2009 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

This list will be short by next weekend

The problem is how many vets want to play for a contract as the #4 CB?

by birdness on Mar 2, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

this is a good point

Even though I have faith in our secondary as it currently stands, we are one injury away from being in big trouble – we coudl really use another solid cb for depth purposes.

by foyesboys on Mar 2, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Canty seems like the first player of this Cowboys team

to leave. This team being circa Bill Parcel’s first draft and the current team was being formed.

I can’t believe how much the Giants paid for Canty. I can’t wait to see Leanord Davis knock him to the ground. Osi should be incensed

by AustonianAggie on Mar 2, 2009 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

No point in chasing average players with elite money

Canty may be better than average. He’s young and could get better. However the Giants just paid like he will be better. I hate to see decent players leave, but Jerry made the right move.

by birdness on Mar 2, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Roy Williams

Roy’s head has been elswere for some time now.I would trade him and play Newman and Jenkins. There is no point drafting players if your not going to give them a chance,especially corners.

by scotsman55 on Mar 2, 2009 2:13 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, I thinking Dallas will take a couple of late round corners

They do every year, and have the bottom of the roster fight to make the team. Maybe Dallas just wanted to clear space for who ever won Micheal Irvin’s reality show

by AustonianAggie on Mar 2, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Bottom of the the roster = special teams

Those players contribute and are always one hit away from starting.

by birdness on Mar 2, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Vonnie Holiday

Anyone know much about him?

I can honestly say I don’t.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 2:39 PM CST reply actions  

He had 3.5 sacks last year and is 33 years old.

And ran in a 3-4 out of Miami last year.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Jason Taylor just released from the Redskins...

Sameri Rolle (CB) Ravens said he wants to be traded

by Boyzfan94 on Mar 2, 2009 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

Ummmm...

Source?

Because I don’t see that anywhere.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

rotoworld.com

i saw that too.

HATERADE: Two scoops of Eric Allen, add water and stir.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 2, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Aaaah thanks

I was looking RW, i guess it was refreshing slowly.

Hmm that’s interesting.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Why?

He only has a year or two left, so he won’t come cheap. Not only would Taylor suck up cap, he either rides the pine or sets Spencer back another year. Jerry can find a backup OLB in the draft for much less money.

by birdness on Mar 2, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

IMO - this is exactly the kind of guy WE DO NOT NEED

hollywood good looks, dancing with stars, doesn’t want to be a part of offseason program, eyes set on career after football…..

not the kind of guy that is going to bring the team together

not naming any names but we have enough of these “ME” guys already

by McLovin9 on Mar 2, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmmm...

Anybody interested in Taylor if he can be had on the cheap? It could be a another parting FU to Parcells. Not really interested in another former star of declining talent though. We just signed one.

by Boundforbeach on Mar 2, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Taylor would be an OLB though...

And then what do you do with Ellis?

Think he’s whiny now?

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Why?

Taylor isn’t any better at this point and he’d want more money than Ellis.

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by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you sure he'd want more money than Ellis?

Seriously, I said it off the top of my head but everybody’s always complaining about Ellis’ whining, that I said, hey why not. If he didn’t want more money than Ellis and could play at the level before he got hurt and we get rid of the whining, I’d definitely think about it.

by texstar on Mar 2, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's a moot point anyway

It seems that the Bucs have his old DC (from his glory days in MIA), and plenty of cash to spend on him.

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by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was just kinda talking off the top of my head....

sometimes I do that just throwing ideas out there and some guys on here get all bent out of shape. I’m not necessarily for or against something, just throwing out new ideas.

by texstar on Mar 3, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't worry, I wasn't bent out of shape

Just out of shape :)

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by APerfectStar on Mar 3, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I didn't think you were.....

Believe me, it’s pretty easy to tell when some of these guys get a little testy-lol

by texstar on Mar 3, 2009 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

No

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Mar 2, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Chris Carr is still out there

Great return man, and better than Ball at corner.

HATERADE: Two scoops of Eric Allen, add water and stir.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 2, 2009 3:16 PM CST reply actions  

The Cardinals...

If Arizona lets Kurt Warner seriously get away I think that would be crazy.

You go from being a super bowl contender again to being… average to not so good.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 2, 2009 3:21 PM CST reply actions