Cowboy Kitna - One Happy Buckeroo
Q: Who is the happiest guy in the NFL?
A: Jon Kitna, the Cowboys' new backup QB.
In 2006 the Lions gave up 63 sacks. This stat only reflects the times defenses were actually credited with sacks, not how many times defenders crashed into the QB just as he got the ball away. He went 372/596 for a 62.4% completion record while running for his life. Compare that to Tony Romo who was 220/337 for 65.3% in 2006 with only 21 sacks.
In 2007 the Lions gave up 52 sacks, three behind league leader San Francisco with 55 vs Romo who was sacked 24 times that year. Kitna has taken more hits than Bob Marley at a Cheech and Chong Film Fest.
Last season Kitna was injured in game five of the season and finished out the year on IR. You know he must be thinking about his move to the Cowboys, "Only around twenty sacks per year? Heck, I usually get that before the end of October!"
I have heard that he is a good teammate, and is willing to play his role - whatever that may be. He was brought in to Cincinnati to mentor young Carson Palmer and give him time to develop. Kitna was successful in that role, winning ‘NFL Comeback Player of the Year' in 2003 then stepping aside to be Palmer's backup in 2004. Kitna and Palmer also became close friends off the field through their mutual love of golf. I'm sure Tony and Jon will be on the links together this summer.
He's a leader and a hard worker. He was angry with some of his Lions teammates and their lack of effort and he spoke out about it in the local newspaper.
"By that I mean, this is your job," Kitna said. "This is not, you come to work, you get here five minutes before you're supposed to be here and you leave two minutes after they let you go. That's not how this profession works. It's just not." ... "You can't have the veteran that everybody looks up to in your meeting asleep," Kitna said. "You can't have that. If that's the case, then what's the young guy learning? That that's OK. That's what he's learning."
Jon Kitna is not as mobile as Romo but he's not as statuesque (in a negative way) as Brad Johnson. If Romo goes down again, I'm confident Kitna will do a better job of keeping us in the game - but he is not without some warts.
He has a 152/151 career touchdown to interception ratio. In fact in his 12 year career he has only had 3 years in which he tossed more touchdowns than picks. He also has a history of putting the ball on the ground - like his new golfing buddy.
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2006 |
Fumbles |
Fumbles Lost |
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Kitna |
11 |
11 |
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Romo |
9 |
6 |
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2007 |
Fumbles |
Fumbles Lost |
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Kitna |
17 |
10 |
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Romo |
10 |
5 |
That fumble problem could be a result of taking all those shots. I'm hoping that a Romo-friendly offense is also a Kitna-friendly offense and that his primary duty is to hand off to Marion Barber during the fourth quarter mop-up and no one even gets a hit-na on Cowboy Kitna.
I'm sure he feels happy that he upgraded his situation. I think we did and I'm happy too. What are your thoughts?
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I never watched Kitna play that much
So most of my opinion is based on what I read about our new backup QB. So far, I like what I read. He seems dedicated to his task, team oriented, not the kind of guy to create any controversy, etc.
I’m hoping his only duty is mop up, but if Romo goes down, I like our chances MUCH better with Kitna than with Johnson from last year.
Jim – I like that phrase – no one even gets a hit na on Kitna :)
by BishopWest on Mar 26, 2009 6:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"You can't have the veteran that everybody looks up to in your meeting asleep,"
I hope he’s not talking about RW….
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
by BoyfromOz on Mar 26, 2009 6:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it wouldn't surprise me
the knock on RW has always been his poor work ethic.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was my first thought but....
if he had called RW out for sleeping I don’t think RW would be as happy as he seems to be to have him here
by stephen1 on Mar 26, 2009 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, who are the supposed veteran leaders on the Lions?
I really can’t think of too many.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, some vet on the Lions
unless it was a total hypothetical
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me of...
Reading the book, “Boys Will Be Boys.” Sounds like Deion Sanders, who was exceptionally gifted, but set an awful example for the youngsters on the team by not working hard in practice and making a joke of meetings. Perhaps he was alluding to that.
by BVandy on Mar 26, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kitna Is A Great Addition
The value and skill of Kitna was sort of lost in the hoopla generated by the trade of Henry. Kitna may be the most important move next to getting rid of you know who.
by Iowacowboy on Mar 26, 2009 6:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm
what happens is Kitan never gets on the field and the passing game struggles. Will you be so happy that we got rid of you know who? Do you see that as a possibility?
by eightball on Mar 26, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it a RW thread?
it wouldn’t surprise me
the knock on RW has always been his poor work ethic.
by eightball on Mar 26, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Passing Game Is Not Going To Struggle
You know who will not be missed; get over it.
by Iowacowboy on Mar 26, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would compare kitna to a testaverty, or a steve berline..
quality…
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Mar 27, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berline was a young QB in his prime.
Burnie Cowsar would be a better comparison. Hopefully Kitna is at least a year or two away from entering the decomposing corpse phase of his career that Wade Wheelson and Vrad Johnston were in during their stints as Cowboys.
by MadMick on Mar 27, 2009 4:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They slept in their meetings because they practiced so hard on the field.
//Roy William’d.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Mar 26, 2009 7:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wayback Machine. Circa 10/08
Q. Who’s the happiest guy in the NFL?
A. Roy Williams, the Cowboys new WR.
This all sounds too famililar. Glad we have them both. But please, no more Detroit players.
by Boundforbeach on Mar 26, 2009 8:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yep adding more Detroit players is dangerous, soon or a
later that loosing culture just sink in the back of your mind unconsciously and you dont even know its there
by dcfanz on Mar 26, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Kitna is perfect for his role
And I hope he never leaves the bench this year. He’s put up pretty impressive numbers when he’s been surrounded with decent talent (e.g., Cincinnati pre-Palmer) and even in Detroit. Unless his skill/talent level fell off a cliff he could definately keep things afloat if called on for a few games. No comparison between he and Brad Johnson
by StillHateTheGiants on Mar 26, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Those fumble stats are disturbing
By their nature QB fumbles are all in the backfield and in my mind some of the worst kind of turnovers. That’s been one of my biggest knocks on Romo. I hope we don’t even get to see Kitna this year and Romo takes better care of the ball.
by StillHateTheGiants on Mar 26, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 26, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think that amount of fumbles
comes with that amount of sacks and hits taken
by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 26, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
QBs aren’t as strong as backs and receivers, if they’re hit enough, they’re going to fumble, especially on blind side hits when they never see it coming.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but...
not all of the fumbles he’s had was due to blindside hits.
Some were due to the fact that at times he holds the ball out like a loaf of bread. I mean most of the time he’s trying to make a play so I understand, but sometimes you have to cut bait.
Pretty much just like Grizz said a couple of articles ago.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 26, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its definitely a fine line
between allowing him to make something out of nothing and knowing when to cut bait. My feelings are when the bad plays out number the good plays, then you have a problem.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
But he still needs to take care of the ball better.
Certainly on plays when he decides to run the ball.
IMO when you decide to start going foward, tuck the SOB.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 26, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but I don't think most of his fumbles
occur when he’s attempting to run, but rather when he’s maneuvering around the pocket trying to make a play, then somebody swipes at him. Its a fine line.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even then...
You can pull the ball in and not let it hang out there.
Look at how Steve Young would play. When he scrambled and was still looking down field, he would take the ball in. Not tuck it, but he wouldn’t hold it with one hand out there.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 26, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess its a style thing and every player is different
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think those fumble stats are a tad deceiving...
for instance, look at 2006. He had 596 pass attempts, and was sacked 63 times. That means he dropped back 659 times (at least). In those 659 dropbacks, he fumbled 11 times. Compare that to Romo, who in 2006 fumbled 9 times in 358 dropbacks.
When you throw as much as he was made to throw, and you get hit as much as he was hit, you are going to fumble on occasion.
by DannyWhite on Mar 26, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats been my argument all along
fumbles happen, they are simply part of the game. They can be improved upon and lessened, but they happen to all players regardless.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DannyWhite
I think your perspective is correct. When you look at how many times Kitna was a target for a hit and how many times he was hit – his fumble numbers don’t look as bad.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Mar 26, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OFF TOPIC FOR A MOMENT....but
Can anyone tell me about Matt Spanos…listed on the roster….first year player from USC. 6’5" 310 C….Where did he come from and can he play?
by AZ Cowboy on Mar 26, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AZ Cowboy, doesn't look to good. Here is what NFL Draft Scout had to say
by DaBoys on Mar 26, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his bio reads like a camp body
he’ll get a chance to make an impact but not much in his post college career says he will
by AustonianAggie on Mar 26, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's definitely camp fodder
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
roy williams has always known to be lazy on the practice field...that must change
Dallas gave up alot for this guy so he better prove his worth this season….the honeymoon is over he better produce!!!
by scandrick32 on Mar 26, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Honeymoon over?
I haven’t busted out the mead yet!
by AustonianAggie on Mar 26, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
About Kitna..
Although he is not physically as gifted as Tony, He has more leadership by far.. He is a passionate QB and plays his hearts out. I believe he will teach Romo to play with more sense of urgency and demand more from his play makers. He also has a pretty good arm and is not afraid of throwing deep. Looking forward to see him play for us, where hopefully he would have more protection in passing game than what sieve (AKA O-line) he had in Detroit. I remember couple of years ago how he took us a part with much inferior team. I expect him to contribute greatly here.
by CDR on Mar 26, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm looking forward to Roy Williams
I have lots of memories of him being unstoppable at the college level. I was looking through his old draft prospectus here and forgot this: did you know he ran a 4.36 in the 40 on his second attempt? He looks bigger that his measurables say, and he’s always been like that, I think he’s also faster than he looks on TV.
by AustonianAggie on Mar 26, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and they say he's louder than he sounds
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Mar 27, 2009 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember from his college days the tv commentators were,
amazed by the size of his foot LOL he is something like 14 or 16
by dcfanz on Mar 26, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, Roy Williams was pretty legendary in college for his work ethic
It seems like these tags of hard worker, not hard worker… are kind of BS. Like other important phrases like “football guy”
by AustonianAggie on Mar 26, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't every blogger on this site..
A “football guy”?
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Mar 26, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess so, I just mean the way "football guy" is a diss on Jerry Jones
More on Roy Williams, from a lions fan, training camp, this last year
I’m so glad we didn’t trade Roy. Especially for the late first rounder that so many Lions fans were clamoring for. Roy is the Lions best player. Hands down. He works hard, loves football, wants to win, has a vivrant personality and is a great veteran leader on the WR unit.
Here’s a quote from the news-writer in the article
Detroit Lions receiver Roy Williams was mad at somebody or something, but he wouldn’t say what it was.
Early in a team blitz period, Williams was yelling and receivers coach Shawn Jefferson was yelling, but Williams said he wasn’t yelling at Jefferson. "I just wanted the practice to go smoother,’’ Williams said.
Early in the period, the defense was clobbering the offense but that all changed when the quarterbacks started throwing the ball to Williams, who caught everything in sight and couldn’t be stopped.
all to be had here
by AustonianAggie on Mar 26, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy Williams work ethic..
.. I’ve heard that he was lazy and not a hard worker too. But I’ve also heard that he’s already out running patterns with Romo and has been for a while. So, to me, if a guy is out working with his team mates in February and March, of his own accord, that seems like a pretty good work ethic to me.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Mar 26, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe Romo is demanding it of him
since he’s pledged to be much more of leader since T.O. is gone.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear guys, Roy Williams has two competing reputations
one that he’s lazy, one that he’s a phenomenal and relentless worker
I can only conclude neither is true and he binge practices
by AustonianAggie on Mar 26, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
binge practices
haha
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 26, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why does this always get directed back to Romo?
We are talking about RW and his work ethic. Man, you’re obesessed with the guy and it’s irritating.
by texstar on Mar 26, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
obsessed .....
that wasn’t directed at you airforce…….We were talking about RW right?
by texstar on Mar 26, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 26, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you criticize him 100 times a day
and I’m the one obsessed…now thats funny.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Mar 26, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought...
She has been real critical, not anything crazy at least.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 26, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you airforce......
I don’t even mean it as criticism. I mean it as my opinion on how we can get better as a team. I will state my opinions on all players as I “personally” see them such as Witten, Barber etc.
by texstar on Mar 26, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see anything wrong with constructive criticism that has thought to it.
There is a difference between bashing and constructive criticism.
Webster's definition of irony: Keyshawn Johnson calling another football player selfish.
by AirforceBat on Mar 26, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
RW's foot is still hurting I guess
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/03/roy-williamstony-romo-workouts-might-not.html
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
by kameleon_o on Mar 26, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't like that.
Timing is important. Healing is more important. Let him get right . Can’t afford to have this linger.
by oldboysfan on Mar 26, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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