Dallas Cowboys news & notes
by Dave Halprin on Mar 4, 2009 12:00 AM CST
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Some quick updates and links.
Here's an article discussing new ILB Keith Brooking. Also, since he can't wear his usual #56 in Dallas, he'll go with #51 in honor of one of his idols, Dick Butkus.
Meanwhile, linebacker Kevin Burnett could compete for a starting position along side Stephen Cooper if he ends up in San Diego.
And finally, on the linebacker front, Anthony Spencer does some community outreach with the kids. Whatever happened to his arrest thing? Is the league going to look at that? Oops, shhh. Don't give Goodell any ideas.
More stories and links below, including updates on free agent defensive backs.
Our own Carl Shelton (GD88) laid out a ton of defensive back options in this article. But some of those options are visiting other places while the Cowboys wait with uncharacteristic patience. Shawn Springs is visiting Philly and the paper there makes it sound like he'll sign.
The visit started today and will continue tomorrow, with a media availability scheduled for the afternoon. That probably means a signing.
What does this mean? Good question. The Eagles have a roster spot, with Lito Sheppard finally traded, but they just paid Joselio Hanson handsomely to be their nickel corner; hard to see Springs being happy with Lito's old role. Can he play safety? That would be good. He did have six sacks in 2004, so he has to be able to play inside a little, right?
But the Washington Post says he still might visit other teams.
He also visited New England on his free-agent tour and Houston and New Orleans are options as well, a league source said.
The Buffalo Bills signed CB Drayton Florence, which may send CB Jabari Greer to another team. The Chargers say Antonio Cromartie is not on the trading block. The Seahawks may want S Jermaine Phillips but the Chargers might, too. S Jim Leonhard signed with the Jets.
For a hilarious look at GM Vinny Cerrato's email, go to SB Nation's Redskins blog, Hogs Haven.
I found this the other day in an interview conducted by SB Nation's Cleveland Browns blog, Dawgs By Nature, with OLB draft prospect Cody Brown from Connecticut.
DBN: "Which player do you try to mimic? Who is your favorite current player?"
Cody Brown: "I like Demarcus Ware's game. Getting after the quarterback is what I'll be paid to do."
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That Cerrato email was awesome.
The little convo between Cerrato and La Confora was pretty funny.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 4, 2009 12:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
My personal fave
is Fred Smoot asking if Snyder has a boat he can borrow haha
by AikmanNailedMySis on Mar 4, 2009 7:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems since the Cowboys are
never mentioned when it comes to a possible destination for one of the free agent safeties that they plan on using their 1st pick on a safety. I heard today on Espn they really like Sean Smith.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 4, 2009 12:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would do cartwheels if they got Shawn Smith
Here’s the problem — he’s going in the 25-35 range.
They pick 51st.
How do they move up 20-25 spots? Who do you put in a trade package? Where does the team have depth?
by Rafael Vela on Mar 4, 2009 1:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking we offer Choice as part of
a package to move up into the late 1st or early 2nd. Choice won’t get any carries if Barber and Jones are healthy.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 4, 2009 1:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-1 Speaking of healthy, Choice was the ONLY RB that remained healthy last season.
And showed me he a much better choice to keep around than the overpaid MBIII if we are ever looking to move a RB.
Felix and Choice aren’t going anywhere for the next 4 years…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 4, 2009 5:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good in theory...
But if you were to move Choice, which isn’t happening this year, it would make it easier because of his small contract.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Mar 4, 2009 8:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
umm....small contract = exactly why we would keep him over MBIII...
better skills, faster, and potentially more productive than MBIII and makes about 85% less than Barber…
NONE of the RB’s are going anywhere…I have no clue why people would even suggest the thought.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 4, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand that...
But it’s easier to move a small contract.
What I wrote wasn’t stupid, it’s the economics of football.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Mar 4, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
economical football would be retaining your young low cost-high production players,
and getting rid of your aging overblown contracted players that aren’t putting up numbers to justify 7 million per year.
example:
Darren Sproles- young, productive, resignable – hence the new contract
Tomlinson- aging, losing a step, extremely high salary – hence the trade rumors, and salary reduction.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 4, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My problem with Choice Felix combo is
who is our short yardage, goal line back? neither one of them has the bulk MB3 has.
by quincyyyyy on Mar 4, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't want to trade any of them...
but choice would be the goal line, he’s pretty bulky.
He’s 20 lbs. less then Barber but 4 inches shorter so it’s more compact.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Mar 4, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
plus he's only 10lbs lighter than Barber....
so ya know…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 4, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I had the height wrong...
Sue me.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Mar 4, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Choice is 215lbs, and Barber is 225lbs.....
I guess NFL.com doesn’t have the correct weights listed ??
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 4, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Both NFL.com and ESPN.com
have Barber listed as 225lbs and Choice as 208lbs. DallasCowboys.com has them listed at 221lbs and 215 respectively. Raf says that the Cowboys weights are the most accurate in the league so they should have more credibility.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
by kameleon_o on Mar 4, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
221 is Barber's old weight
He bulked up last offseason to 225. I know that much.
by quincyyyyy on Mar 4, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Um, I think Barber has been 'decent' in that role for a couple of years.......
He’s been money in short-yardage, although not always conventional in that spot.
by Realist Larry on Mar 4, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think he was implying if we didnt have barber
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Since when did the leagues all time leading rusher, and TD producer have bulk ????
Emmitt Smith coming out of college was 5’9" 205lbs..
Choice is 5’10" 215lbs.coming out of college
Felix is 5’`10" 207lbs. coming out of college.
Now I’m pretty sure Emmitt beefed up and got a bit more rugged as his years went on playing in the 215lbs range, BUT don’t be supprised if Felix comes to play next season at about 210 – 215lbs, and Choice closer to the 215 – 220lbs range after an offseason of NFL off field workouts and conditioning…
Choice more than proved himself against the best run defenses in the league last season…and BOTH Choice and Felix are quicker to the line of scrimmage than Barber….
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 4, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Choice is now listed at 208
according to espn, so actually he got lighter.
by quincyyyyy on Mar 4, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I get my statistics from a reputable source called THE NFL
might want to refrain from anything ESPN related…not known to be a credible “source”
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 4, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to have 3 functional RBs in todays NFL
see NY Giants…..
Leave all the RB’s where they are
by WALKERMAN on Mar 4, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you do?
how many other teams can you name had 3 rbs that saw significant time?
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet that number goes up next year too
by WALKERMAN on Mar 4, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you make it sound like you cant win unless you have 3 rbs.
eagles, steelers, cardinals, ravens.. did they have 3 rbs see significant time? Steelers? only because of injury.
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Steelers, yes
Mendehall, Moore, Willie Parker
by AustonianAggie on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals went two deep all year
eagles went with Buckhalter and Westbrook, and westbrook spent time hurt, Ravens had two all year,
by AustonianAggie on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
steelers only because of injury
and NE doesnt count they have a constant rotation at RB there
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, injuries
but Dallas only had 1 fuilly functioning RB down the stretch last year;
by AustonianAggie on Mar 4, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and its not every year both 1 and 2 RBs get hurt
im just saying you dont NEED 3 great RBs. you certainly cant pay for them all eventually. Right now its a luxuary.
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where did I say you couldn't win without 3 Rb's?
I just said that is a trend the league in general is going to and given the number of injuries at that position it may be a good idea……
Thus I think trading any of our RB’s is a big mistake…my opinion…not fact
by WALKERMAN on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NE, Colts,
3 good RBs should be a huge advantage for Dallas, helping the Defense and the win column, we should roll with this strength
by AustonianAggie on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i hope it does
but you dont HAVE to have 3 functional RBs to be successful.
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah lets just ignore what we learned last year . We absolutly need 3 RBs.
Why not have three great ones. This is foolish gambling at its height. Please next topic.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Mar 4, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, the Bronco agree....
they just signed LaMont Jordan as well.
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, but lets get back to the original reason to debate this point
How do you move up to get a Sean Smith or another player of interest? If this team isn’t willing to move Choice or Scandrick, I can’t see a way up, short of flipping ‘10s #1. And I don’t want to get on that track again.
by Rafael Vela on Mar 4, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because you're saying that a 3rd RB
is more important than a starting S or LB or NT. I love Tashard Choice, but is he that important?
by Rafael Vela on Mar 4, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we'll get lucky and some team will simply
trade a draft pick for cash. I see your point though, but Choice was a 4th round pick; anyone looking to trade a high 2nd for him will get skewered in the press
by AustonianAggie on Mar 4, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's something I've always wondered about.
You can trade draft picks for players, they’ve even been traded for coaches (although, I think the NFL stopped that after Gruden), but can you trade a pick for money?? Like If Jerry offered a 2nd round pick, 5 round pick, and a half million dollars, could you do that??
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
by kameleon_o on Mar 4, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no...i wish we could..but it's not happening...
MLB maybe…..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 4, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's pretty hard to argue with....
and I have to agree on that.
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats easy.....
You sign a serviceable vetran Free or Strong Safety, move Hamlin based on that FA signing, draft a replacement that could use a little more development with a year on the sidelines.
We can’t have the best at every position and spend a top pick every year to draft for a position of need.
We need more pick like Choice and Barber that were later round picks and needed a little time to develop and then actually DEVELOP
Thats my opinion……
by WALKERMAN on Mar 4, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's easy?
“You sign a serviceable vetran Free or Strong Safety, move Hamlin based on that FA signing, draft a replacement that could use a little more development with a year on the sidelines.”
You have seen the Cowboy’s S play the last five years, right? If Dallas has a chance to find a good one, they should jump at it. Cause there’s been nothing fun or easy about S play since Woody left town.
by Rafael Vela on Mar 4, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Except for Hamlin
year before last. I haven’t seen a safety that I liked playing for this team since Woody left.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Mar 4, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they were so bad.....
I can’t even remember their names or I’m getting really senile.
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
our best bet is some talent sneaking on the roster
a too small LB, a small school player, a QB… something like that
by AustonianAggie on Mar 4, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In fact
I don’t like any safety that we have extended the contract on since Woody. Jerry, year to year deals only. Every year you should “Franchise” your safeties.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Mar 4, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't we only extended...
roy’s since woody?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Mar 4, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Hamlin's
he didn’t exactly have a banner year last season.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Mar 4, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea Raf I see your point......
I am just saying we may have to get a little lucky and we need to be prudent wit our picks and roster especially after the RW2 trade…. How many top draft picks have we spent on this defense and it still seems flawed at times
However, is this really a (strong) Safety draft class? I honestly do not know..I am sure you do….
by WALKERMAN on Mar 4, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems flawed?
I think you are a little softer on them than me. Two td runs inside of two minutes? The total collapse at Philly? I see Ratliff, and Ware as the two most solid peices of that defense. Except for maybe the Scandrick, Jenkins and Newman (when he isn’t hurt) everyone else on the defense is an upgrade looking for a place to happen.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Mar 4, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree GunsUp....
which brings us back to the question-is it tF
0scheme or the players?
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A little of
both from my view. Things got better after Wade took over, but he was still the calling the D during two of the worst games of the year.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Mar 4, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.....
I guess we’ll find out more this year when we see how Canty does in NY right?
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was be a little understated with the term "flawed"
but with that being said I do not think talent is the issue on defense as it “heart” not scheme…..
I think d players talking about scheme is just an alibi (sp?) for their poor play
We need TEAM players with HEART just like Woody on BOTH sides of the ball. The schemes will take care of themselves if we have those players in the fold
by WALKERMAN on Mar 4, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We need players that play for each other
not for their numbers and not playing for their next big contract ……even though most of our players already got PAID and maybe that is linked to their lack of heart
by WALKERMAN on Mar 4, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I get you Walker.
I think Jerry has a habit of acquiring players who have issues. Not always off the field issues either. Every now and again he gets lucky, the only problem is he tends to chose players that once they think they have made it, no longer desire to get better.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Mar 4, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree GunsUp....
I think that sometimes there is too much emphasis put on “talent” and not enough on working together as a team. Also,IMO, we don’t really know if this team is really that talented or if the Jerry/media conned us into thinking they were more talented than they were.
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really agree
Romo was working all offseason on trying to be a better pocket passer and making the most of the time he had. Bradie just had his best season as a pro. Ratlif has improved mightily since his payday. We all know TO works hard. Wittens probably the best TE in the league, and he was paid a couple years ago.
I guess maybe you can say this about the oline, but the bottom line is you have little to back up this statement, just poor play which you’re assuming is because they don’t work hard enough. Just cause Hamlin isn’t as good this year is probably irrelevant of his contract – stick anyone next to the garbage we throw out at the other safety position and they’ll struggle, trying to play two positions at once.
We don’t have some extraordinary amount of talent on defense thats just underachieving. Ware, Ratliff, Newman are our only elite players and newmans never healthy. Bradie played well last year and canty, spears and ellis were decent role players.
by foyesboys on Mar 4, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We can argue
scheme vs talent vs heart all year long. I think the thing we can agree on is this. We have drafted too many number ones on this defense for the kind of production we have gotten. Besides Felix Jones I really can’t remember the last time we used a first on offense. I’m not going to smoke and say that our defense doesn’t play as a team or without heart, but just by the amount of time and money used on it, it should be producing a lot better than it is. If Pitt or Chicago used as many first rounders on defense as we have they would be like brick walls. Oh yeah, they are.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Mar 4, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that TE
in 98
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
umm...wasn't our offense ranked in the top 5 three of of the last four seasons ??
FB and LG are the only position that can actually use upgrading….not a bad position to be in on offense.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 4, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Numba, I think he's saying that the
defense has not performed as well with all the high draft choices. At least that’s what I was agreeing on-lol
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly Raf...
The Safety position has killed the Cowboys since Woddy left. If you think Sean Smith can fix this position you have to go for it. We have no depth at S, we have 3 solid Rb’s. I’m tired of the safety position holding this team back.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 4, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if anyone on this here blog mentions choice in a draft day trade again...
i prolly won’t do anything at all… but i will be upset if he actually gets traded… the kid can play, he’s cheap, durable, quick, dependable, and a leader. If we don’t have our 3 backs come the start of next season, i’ll be upset… im looking forward to good things from our backs… hopefully we can pick up some maulers on the oline through the draft… or at least some futures who can push the starters
by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 4, 2009 9:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Boooooooooooooo!!!!
Booooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
by DavidH22 on Mar 4, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As much of a sentimental favorite as Barber still might be.....
My head says the Cowboys would definitely regret trading Choice. If he can ever learn to hang onto those pesky pitch plays (or impromptu screen plays) he’s going to be a force to be reckoned with for a long time.
As inspiring as Barber’s intense demeanor may be, he’s just not a special back.
by MadMick on Mar 4, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two possible trade partners for Choice.
Eagles at #28 and Arizona at #31. Eagles need someone to team up with Westbrook and Arizona could use a RB as well plus I’m sure the Bidwells would love to not have to pay a 1st round pick.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 4, 2009 1:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah no way choice goes anywhere
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 6:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HELL NO CHOICE DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE!!!
Especially to a team IN OUR DIVISION who beat the pants off of us to get into the playoffs. That last thing we need to do is help them out…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Mar 4, 2009 7:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
by kameleon_o on Mar 4, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry said we don't want to move up into the first round
so number 33 is probably the highest we’ll go
by quincyyyyy on Mar 4, 2009 9:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So I guess we are going after a FS?
does that mean we are moving Hamlin to SS? If so we need to bulk him up in the offseason.
by quincyyyyy on Mar 4, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
package MBIII and his contract to move up
and keep the two young talented and inexpensive guys.
a short scouting report on Smith here
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?Prospect_ID=1881
by DaBoys on Mar 4, 2009 1:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why trade a RB..
Just cuz we have 3 doesn’t mean we should trade any of them…remember just a few months ago we were running with a 9 toed Barber and Choice…
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 4, 2009 1:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and Sean Smith
Is a corner/safety tweener he could fall
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 4, 2009 1:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we pick 51
Sean Smith according to NFL Draft Scout is the 52nd ranked prospect so it`s possible.
by ziggy19 on Mar 4, 2009 6:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
NFL Draft Scout hasn't updated its data in almost a month
Sean Smith will be picked in the late first round.
by Rafael Vela on Mar 4, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
unless someone makes up a rumor - the morning of the draft - regarding something questionable in smith's past
then let him free fall to us, since the media always links potentially troubled players with us.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Mar 4, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's Do It!
Ed Werder’s source told me some interesting things yesterday.
First, I found out that Sean Smith told Pacman to roll up to a strip club with $81,000 in one dollar bills and to “make it rain.”
I was more shocked when I heard that when Tank Johnson was arrested, he was covering for Smith, the true owner of that little arsenal. Unfortunately for Smith, one of those guns ended up in Plaxico’s hands.
Smith owes much of his success last season and at the combine to A-Rod’s cousin, but is off the juice for now; he’s just been smoking weed with Ricky Williams everyday.
by NICK L on Mar 4, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also I heard
Santonio Holmes sold it to him a few days before Smith was caught doing lines of coke with Matt Jones.
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Mar 4, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard Sean Smith likes to go hunting with Dick Cheney and
Bob Knight
by AustonianAggie on Mar 4, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dont forget Palin as well
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Mar 4, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And drive over bridges with Ted Kennedy
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by kameleon_o on Mar 4, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha-Ha-Ha!!!
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Mar 4, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now THAT'S Entertaining!!!
And the sad thing about it is that it reads like a real-life sports news item.
For CREATIVITY, U get a Five-Star/Platinum Standard/A+ Recommend, Nick L!!!
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Mar 4, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
those rankings are changed frequently, the 52 ranking is from March 3rd…yesterday.
by ziggy19 on Mar 4, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but actually
he could very well be long gone by 51
by ziggy19 on Mar 4, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh and another thing
instead of trading a rb we should be looking to add one in the draft (late)and run the ball more in 09.
by ziggy19 on Mar 4, 2009 6:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't see where we could fit a fourth RB.
Unless he double as a fullback, and was just dynamite on special teams.
HATERADE: Two scoops of Eric Allen, add water and stir.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 4, 2009 6:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Alonzo Coleman just sign his tender?
I think I read that on DC.com…Rodney Hannah too.
Oh... Oh, that's giving me a clue. Yeah, ye-yeah, I've got a raging clue right now.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...
by icStars on Mar 4, 2009 6:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
look at Denver
last yr they went through 35 rb`s or 8…I can`t remember but who`s number 8 on our depth chart? now I don`t suggest drafting 5 rb`s but I wouldn`t mind a late rd pick to stash on the practice squad in case Felix dislocates a toe…or was that Barber? last yr by season`s end we were down to Choice and we didn`t run enough in my opinion.
rb sleepers to power the running game.
332 ranked Vaughan, Josh (RB), Richmond 6-0 234 4.62
303 ranked Hill, *P.J. (RB), Wisconsin 5-10 222 4.59
288 ranked Williams, Javarris (RB), Tennessee State 5-10 223 4.52
253 ranked Johnson, Gartrell (RB), Colorado State 5-10 219 4.69
by ziggy19 on Mar 4, 2009 7:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Personal favorite
I like Javarris Williams
by BettorFan on Mar 4, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Denver...
was going through a freak run of injuries.
No team prepares to go to their 5th runningback on their depth chart.
If worse case scenario that’s why you have a practice squad.
4 runningbacks are just too many.
And if you count Deon Anderson then you’d have 5.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Mar 4, 2009 8:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah and seatle went through WRs like candy
Should we have 9wrs also?
Injuries happen and should be prepared but not paranoid
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 8:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Man why the get rid of MB III vibe all of a sudden?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Mar 4, 2009 8:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Im torn
I dont want to trade anyone but the only position i see we have any leverage to trade is RB.
I want to see choice get the carries he deserves. So I’m impatient and see the only way that can happen is if barber is gone.
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no trades in the rb field
we’re stacked, and it should stay that way… it…
a. controls the clock
b. lowers the risk of romo throwing picks or fumbling
c. loosens defenses for the playaction and deep bombs to TO (or miles austin)
d. SCREENS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
e. i love those circle routes choice picked up good yards on ( i thinkt hey were circle, maybe just shallow ins)
by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 4, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because we overpaid him in a contract no RB except a future HoFer should get?
Although I don’t know the Cap ramifications, because I don’t take that talk seriously.
I’m not for trading him, but we way overpaid for a RB, maybe Jerry would see that now.
by Realist Larry on Mar 4, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but he got his deal when he was the only RB on the roster
Julius and Tyson Thompson were gone. I agree his contract was excessive, but who was willing to flip him one year ago and enter the season with unknowns at RB?
by Rafael Vela on Mar 4, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hindsight is always 20/20.
Last year when we had nothing for RB then it was a good deal. Just like the Insurance on your house is a good deal, til you have to use it.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Mar 4, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and some people need to get off the Choice bus, you're boarding early
and it’s not leaving the terminal for a year.
C’mon, he looked good, but a few good games, even against top D’s, does not a sure-fire RB make!
Really, you guys sound like the Troy Hambrick supporters from 10 years ago. he looked good too, for a while!
Dump Barber and rely on 2 unproven, young RB’s?
Only if a reliable veteran came in too, cheap.
by Realist Larry on Mar 4, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
barber is the only sure fire rb, i don’t understand why we’d want to trade him. Barber at the very least is the best “closer” in the game.Choice looked solid and dependable, but we don’t know how he’d hold us as the number 1 back. Similarly, we don’t know how felix will react when teams gameplan for him. Barber is the only guy we know for sure about.
by foyesboys on Mar 4, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
which is why we keep all 3 rb’s, I doubt Barber or Choice would be traded anyway (atleast not for a few years).
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Mar 4, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
for me atleast
its not that having 3 really good rb is bad its just a luxuary or something we dont NEED to win. We have major needs at safety DL and OL.
So IFF the situation came up where we could fill one of those needs I’d do it. And really the only position we have any leverage is RB. So if i had to trade one of them it’d be barber.
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Barber didn't exactly hold up too well last year in his first year as the No. 1.
So how is that argument working at all? All we know so far about Barber is that he only lasted for the first three months of the season in his first year as the full-time no. 1.
Closing out games is fine but you need to build a lead first to get to that point in that game. I just see Choice as the type of runner that will most consistently get you positive yardage early in games when the defenses aren’t budging. Barber on the other hand will always have those odd runs where he drifts outside instead of just sticking it up in the teeth of the defense.
by MadMick on Mar 4, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
paranoid?
oh i guess i was just paranoid when we were down to Choice at seasons end, and I said draft 1 (one,une, uno,ichi) and get him on the practice squad.
by ziggy19 on Mar 4, 2009 9:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but...
You generally don’t draft a running back to put them on the practice squad, or any player for that matter.
I understand what you’re saying but sometimes crap happens, unfortunatly you can’t be prepared for mass injuries to skill positions.
You would be picking a running back over a position that we really need, like safety, ILB, DE, DT, OL, CB
Runningback would be probably the last position in the pecking order of what Dallas needs this year.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Mar 4, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if the worst happens there will be enough RBs to pick up that you dont need to draft one
But its not like every year your number 1 AND number 2 RB goes down. Just like its not every year that your number 1 ,2,3,4,5 or how many ever WRs seatle lost.
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Mar 4, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We already have Coleman on the practice squad. Do you really want to draft someone to compete for a spot on the PS?
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Mar 4, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
RB's are a dime/dozen in the NFL, easiest position to fill of all.
by Realist Larry on Mar 4, 2009 10:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, Dallas has proven that it can definitely draft RBs
Barber and Choice were both 4th rounders, so it’s not as if the Cowboys will be hopeless if they deal one.
by Rafael Vela on Mar 4, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1...
now if we can just figure out how to draft a good safety and OLineman, we’ll be good
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man that would be
AWESOME!!!!!!!!
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Mar 4, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How's Felix's toe doing BTW?
Is that something that could affect him this year speed wise etc.?
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 10:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I read...
That hes pretty much good to go.
That shouldn’t effect his speed. From experience, toe injuries just take a while to heal.
Once it’s good I don’t think it should effect his speed.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
by AirforceBat on Mar 4, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse my spelling it should have been effect....
I still would keep Choice because we have 2 RB’s coming off of injuries.
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey you were right
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/affect.html
Should be effect not affect
by Sean N on Mar 4, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So I was right?
That’s a first…..haha
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
According to Rotoworld...
Burnett is close to signing in San Diego. Also, 40mil in guarantees will keep Ware. What do ya think?
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 10:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
ummmm .....
Do it!
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Mar 4, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not as much as I thought, actually....
considering how much Haynesworth is getting.
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hayensworth, and Redskin deals in general, often look larger in the media
than they pan out, thats my view on history
by AustonianAggie on Mar 4, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's true, and I'm definitely not an expert but......
apparently Haynesworth’s deal is really 48 mil so “so called experts” were saying that Ware could be signed with the equivalent of 40 mil guaranteed.
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Texstar where did you see that on Roto? I can't find anything of the sort am i missing it?
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Stoproyce....
it’s on the 3rd page of NFL news on Rotoworld website. The source is Star Telegram. BTW, Star Telegram has an article on DWare online as well.
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
found it .good lookin out
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Mar 4, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kurt Warner
resigned with the Cards.
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Mar 4, 2009 2:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How
many picks do we have this draft again?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Mar 4, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I
know I’ve seen others complain about it, but JJT is the biggest tool …. does he ever talk anything positive?
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/030409dnspocownewsletter.2f463f5.html
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Mar 4, 2009 2:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The problem is even if he is average
he is oft injured and not dependable. So, yes you can never have enough CBs, Henry is the first one I would expect to go down with an injury. Not to mention he is nearing his mid 30’s when players start to really decline. In exchange we got a good backup QB, who will be a positive locker room presence, and more cap space. I just don’t agree with JJT’s logic at all. I think he is just trying to be a contrarian, and it can be a bit annoying.
by quincyyyyy on Mar 4, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he also looks like an alien
that reads minds, maybe these infamous sources are unknowing cowboys players themselves
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Mar 4, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Felix Jones
Hay to the guy that ask about Felix Jones he’s looking good. I live in tulsa were he’s form and he’s walking pretty good very good mine set and he’s really a very down to earth person. Alway willing to lend a hand around the community. I look for a big year from him he’s hungry and will play with a chip on his shoulder lucky for US.
by Football Guy on Mar 4, 2009 3:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Idealy for me we should have Choice starting, add Felix to the mix at some point and have MBIII for short yards
and goal line situations. In reality though the stupid contracts dictate who’s starting…..
by dcfanz on Mar 4, 2009 3:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and say what you want for TO,
but he was always blocking downfield for Felix’s TD’s
by dcfanz on Mar 4, 2009 4:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hmm Giants signed CC Brown and Phily is hosting S Springs
two DB’s we could of used, by the time JJ signs Ware all FA will be gone
by dcfanz on Mar 4, 2009 4:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hope phillly doesn't sign springs
I’m sick of him.
by foyesboys on Mar 4, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sick of playing him*
I feel like washington has given our receivers trouble the last few years (asid from TO’s breakout game)
by foyesboys on Mar 4, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I advocated
CC Brown a couple of days ago. What’s wrong with Jerry? He needs to get on the ball. How much did brown sign for?
by beautifultyrant on Mar 4, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Ray Lewis has committed to the Ravens ...
by GalTex on Mar 4, 2009 5:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I figured that would happen after all this time......
Unfortunately, Ray thought he was more valuable to other teams than he actually is at this point in his career.
by texstar on Mar 4, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
I think he’s so much more valuable than his stats that he’d be worth paying an extra 6 Mil a year (above and beyond Brooking’s contract). His INTENSITY and LEADERSHIP are exactly what this team needs. If you could get Jay Ratliff and Ray Lewis on the field together, the whole team has to step its game up.
Last year, the Eagles were pretty much dead, but they rallied around Dawkins, one of the few players in Ray Lewis’ league when it comes to firing people up.
by NICK L on Mar 4, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dawkins
Did everyone else jump for joy when the Bronco’s signed him? I think it’s safe to say the Eagles wouldn’t have made the playoffs without Dawkins last year. In week 17, almost every Eagle outplayed his Cowboys counterpart, but Dawkins revived the defense a few weeks earlier and they rallied around him.
I think the Eagles still have a lot of talent on D (and some on Offense as well), but losing Dawkins is REALLY going to hurt.
by NICK L on Mar 4, 2009 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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