Hold On a Second

That does lead to some pessimistic thoughts abou this years draft.

One thing though, this years 2nd round is DEEP. There are some 1st rounders that are falling into the second because of the semi recent annoucements of a few college players applying for the draft. let’s just hope we can get a few right this time around.

sorry about that the cat went nutsy. We sometimes drafted good players with character issues like bryant and others we just expected something different than what we got and cut ties like Jones and Fasano. Those are interesting number raf.

3 of those second round picks were last year, so of course they are with the team.

But that’s a hell of an analysis, Jim. We are the worst in our division as far as second round picks. Let’s not forget that the great Bill Parcells made some of these picks.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/03/keith-davis-to-visit-kansas-city.html

He’s about as close to being gone as you can get without actually going. He’s next. That would leave Gurode and Bennett.

not getting Ray?

and potential 3rd if Newman goes down I’m not terrified at Scandrick and Jenkins starting..I think Ball could be a 4th but I would be much more comfortable with a veteran in there…

Wasn’t he a 2nd rounder just last season? The tight end from USC? I just wanted to make sure this is the same guy listed in Jim’s tread.

Measuring draft success on the basis of the players still on a teams roster seems to leave a whole lot out. If a 2nd round pick is cut or just simply not re-signed, it doesn’t mean that the team doesn’t want that player; it only means that there is a better alternative. Clearly Jacob Rogers, Dwayne Goodrich and Tony Dixon were absolute busts, but could easily have been kept around as backups. The Cowboys’ decision to upgrade (or at least attempt to)

Drafting good players in other rounds can lead a team not to keep another player. For example, Julius Jones would surely still be a Cowboy if the team hadn’t found Barber in round 4. Might the Cowboys have kept Al Johnson around if not for Gurode’s emergence as the superior player?

To gauge how good a team is at drafting players (or drafting players in a particular round), we shouldn’t look to their mere presence on a particular roster, but rather the the impact the player is having (even if on another team).

Antonio Bryant was incredible this year. Fasano and Jones are much bigger contributors on their respective teams than Kevin Kolb, Victor Abiamiri, Winston Justice, Reggie Brown , and L.J. Smith are on the Eagles. Accordingly, it doesn’t seem to make much sense to say that the Eagles are more “successful” in the 2nd simply because they’ve retained their picks.

If a player is good, he is good. The Cowboys drafted good players in

That said, I agree that the Cowboys have been unsuccessful in the 2nd round, but I think it’s because of the amount of guys not on ANY roster; not because Jones, Bryant and Fasano got away. The players who replaced Jones and Fasano are better, so it makes sense that they’re gone. I don’t see how we can use that to fault the Cowboys’ ability to draft players in the second round. Bryant’s attitude may have been forseeable, but it’s undeniable that he’s more talented than 90% of 2nd round picks.

If you could have either guy today, who would it be? (I know that we’re never going to get Bryant, but the thought of having him on the team just made me happy. He’d be a beast if he never left Dallas)

I’d go with Bryant on the basis of age and would love to see the ’Boys bring that 27% up by bringing him back like the Skins did with Smoot.

anyone else hear anything…..???

I’m def not on board with this one…

COWBOYS JUST RELEASED TO!

STUART SCOTT SAID THIS JUST IN TERRELL OWENS RELEASED

about there not being enough balls to go around, damnit I was about to go to bed, now my adrenaline is through the roof

I’m looking through every website, NFL network and espn… I don’t see anything.

they were just about to go off the air, and stuart scott said this just in cowboys release TO

10:30 at night…

Hmmmm….

I understand how much of dipshits are at espn, and if they were not sure I am sure they would not report “in that manner” you know I think it would be something like “source says cowboys seriously considering cutting TO”, ya know something like that

He seems to run this team through knee jerk reactions

come on, it has been a while since the season ended and it has been more than a month, since they have had the opportunity to release him, so the fact that they did not already tells you, this is not a knee jerk reaction. I am sure Jerry was the biggest supporter of keeping TO, but if wade, Garrett, Romo, witten or a couple of combinations of those guys thought they were better off without him, Jerry has to listen at somepoint

I guess its safe to say you are a TO supporter,lol
Myself, I am neutral, I think TO is a gamebreaking Wr even if his skills have diminished a tad, but I also realize that without him the team has plenty of firepower to get the job done, and if the cowboys can focus on football,and have a more cohesive unit without him then so be it

Years ago after the issues the Cowboy teams of the 90’s had Jerry wanted players who had no off the field issues. He passed on drafting Moss.

This is for the most part the same team that went 13-3 and all the players got alone and had each others back. The team goes 9-7 and suddenly there are to many cancers on the team.

I support anyone who can make the Cowboys a better team.

I look at the Cowboys now with Roy Williams as the number 1 Wo. Crayton as the no 2 and Austin as a 3. And yes that worries me

The Cowboys line while big does not maul other teams.

As much as I dislike Jerry Jones I know he wants to win. He would never fold a season

Washington, Oakland, Denver, NE?

wow