Adios T.O. -- So Many Cowboys Questions in His Wake
by Rafael Vela on Mar 5, 2009 12:00 AM CST
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I remember when T.O. was signed. It was the biggest day traffic wise my old site had. It was the biggest day Dave's site had at the time. I find more questions arising from this move than answers. Feel free to add your queries and conclusions:
1. Are we seeing the beginning of the Jason Garrett Era tonight, even though Wade Phillips holds the titular reins? Because Dallas does seem to be going with kids. No pursuit of Ray Lewis. No big secondary signings. Yeah, Keith Brooking has lots of wear on his treads but he's still younger than Zach Thomas.
2. Is Jason ready? He got what he wanted. The bridges have been burned. His best receiver has been cut adrift. He has no excuses.
3. Is Roy Williams up to being number one? He didn't produce in Detroit, 2006 aside. He blamed it on the losing culture. He now has no excuses either.
4. Will we see Bum Phillips' '70s Oilers revived, with Earl Campbell, Marion Barber, Rob Carpenter Felix Jones and Tim Wilson Tashard Choice lugging the ball much of the time? Or will we see an even funker version of Miami's offense, with wildcat sets, single wings and the winged T on the field?
5. Will we now see Patrick Crayton and Isaiah Stanback running some option and throwing the ball?
6. Will Jason Witten now be the leading receiver on the team?
7. Where will T.O. land? I'm going to guess Dan Snyder is hyperventilating right now, looking for ways to fit The Player under his ever-expanding salary cap.
8. Will Dallas stand pat with its current receiving corps, or will we see the old Marion-for-Anquan rumor mill fired up again, for no good reason?
9. Lots of regulars left my blog, saying they could not root for Dallas with T.O. on the roster. They were serious. Will they come back?
So many questions, and since it's early March, so much time.
Parting thought -- how 'bout that Jerry Jones? Everybody should consider themselves sucked on this one.
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Geeesh...
While the rest of the NFC East teams make progress, Dallas on the other hand just keep regressing.
~Texas Massacre 08~
Regression?
All things considered, I’m not sure this is a step backwards, to be honest.
agreed...
This is one of those “two steps back, 4 steps forward” types of decisions. We regret it now- I can see why everyone is anxious- we don’t have any big signings and we’re losing the free agent war; however, next season, when we inevitably have a 2-3 game losing streak, we’ll be thankful for this decision.
even with the drops
it’s not enough to offset the catches, TD’s, the double teams
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
or the single press coverage drops
lockeroom fires, constant reports, loud mouth blah blah blah, he has bad with the good
It seems to me....
Of all the reports coming from players was Pro T.O. We keep hearing about all of this “Turmoil” but why has no one ever came out and said anything… even bland.
Usually if a person is a problem on a team most of the comments are bland and general so as not to offend that player, But in T.O.’s case only “UnNamed” Sources was coming forward against him, and Team Leaders were coming out in support of him.
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
you should also take into account his guaranteed 1000 yards and double digit td's. He was the only hall of famer on this team now he'll probably end up in NY or Wash. i am disgusted. i hope that jerry has a freaking plan.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
WARE not a HOFamer?
anyway that is completly debatable, and didnt he barely cross 1000, i mean was he on the incline or the decline?
+1
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 1:59 AM CST up reply actions
I think Ware and Witten
Have legitamte shots at the HOF.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
But at this point TO was still the only guy who could retire now and still probably make it
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 1:59 AM CST up reply actions
Aussie, where you been?
Your boy TO has needed some defense!
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 2:02 AM CST up reply actions
School started and its senior year
Im swamped. But I had to come back on for this
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 2:03 AM CST up reply actions
Really?
I think the “BOO” to “Yay!” or “…ok” ratio is like…3 to 1 or something like that.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 2:04 AM CST up reply actions
Ware and Witten
are well on their way imo. I don’t see either of these guys falling apart in their career – unless its due to injury
His 1000 yards would have continued to decline
especially in a new run-oriented offense.
Stay on target…stay on target!
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
or the 18.5 yd average per catch or the guaranteed 1000 yd and double digit td's.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
sorry i thought my previous comment had disappered,weird . I don't know if ware is a HOF yet . i get your point but he's only played three seasons.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
1000 yds
wasn’t exactly guarenteed. He had 1052 last year, including the game where SF for some completley unknown reason refused to press him.
But also including
3 games where Romo did not play…
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
drops ?? you have the gall to say take in consideration his drops ??
wow..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 4:40 AM CST up reply actions
Numba1 I take no pleasure in this because it happened to me too, consider yourself sucked.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
blindsided by an irrational decision maker....
I finally NOW see why there are so many Jerry haters…I was his biggest supporter by far, but this move has made me step back and reconsider my stance.. He half ass explaination sealed it for me…He talks out his ass, and I’m officially a member of the Fire Jerry the GM coalition…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
That's not what they're saying in Philly
Over there, many want Joe Banner’s head on a platter. They’re not re-signing Jon Runyan or Tra Thomas. They just allowed Brian Dawkins and Correll Buckhalter to sign with Denver. And the rumors of Donovan McNabb leaving persist.
The Eagles really haven’t made any moves themselves… except that they’ve lost players from last season.
We’ve maintained continuity with the exception of TO, Zach, Canty, and possibly Burnett.
The pieces are in place. We just need to improve the weak areas via the draft and free agency, stay healthy, sign the right current players and execute plays during the season.
I am indeed pissed that we cut Owens, but I still like our roster. I’d like it better if we could land a playmaking safety and big run-stopping NT.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
Ditto...
Even with TO gone, I still think not having a revolving door at the safety position must continue to be priority #1.
Don’t lose sight of the goal here!
fantastic
we trade Henry to save 1-2 mil on cap, but cut TO to incure 9 mil hit, not even addressing Player’s contribution
Oh well
Jerry’s probably still paying for Deion.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:40 AM CST up reply actions
LMAO!!!!!!!
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
doesn't have the same effect
in this blog format lol.
Is what it is...
This should be quite a stir, either alot of posters will be vindicated next year or humbled.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
+1
I don’t know if this will turn out good or bad. There’s pluses and minuses out the ying-yang. We’ll see which it’ll be.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
RAf
So what do you think of this? I realize you just posted the questions, but hypotheticallys speaking, how do you think this will pan out?
I wasn't sucked
Jerry had every opportunity to come right out and directly say that Owens was staying. He never did. I knew SOMETHING was up.
Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry - ESPN
+1 I doubt he plays next year
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 2:02 AM CST up reply actions
i hate to say it, but i think that harrison is washed up. he can no longer gain separation like he used to... sad.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
sorry
that was what Dilfer said
and I don’t agree
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
I'd be ineterested in hearing the entirity of his comment
honestly, dilfer’s the only guy on espn whose comments i actually find some value in – still, he does have a sort of hate for TO that seems to blind him.
that seems to be a requirement for the nfl analysts over there at BSPN... the hate for TO, that is.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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can't get separation, better route running,
same old, same old
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Dilfer was asked
if he was starting a team, who’d he rather have: Harrison or T.O.
He said Harrison because he was more of a craftsman at WR.
Actually, Dilfer has some really nice observations about the situation.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
with everyone thinking so many teams are interested
Dont you think Jerry might have shopped TO before flat out cutting him?
the only teams I heard might be interested
are SF, and WAS
and we’re just guessing
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
I could see
Oakland grabbing him…but there will be teams calling…plenty of teams would want to grab an almost guaranteed 1000+ yard receiver.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:35 AM CST up reply actions
That just so happened to demolish 3 locker rooms
Nah. He’ll go somewhere, but most likely to a team with no shame. Besides Dallas, that leaves Washington and Oakland.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 2:45 AM CST up reply actions
probably another reason for the GAG
if you are shopping a player you dont want sources saying you are going to cut him
Downside to a leak?
Really, what’s the downside if there was a leak? We’d still cut TO anyway.
We'll be OK
I don’t see this as the end of the world for some reason. If we can get a few players to step up, get another decent draft. I’m sure Mr Jones has something in mind. The guy doesn’t blindly make decisions like this.
this is definitely not the end of the world
I don’t know if anybody thinks that. I just think this is a step backward. at the very least, a big risk with not a great payoff
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
the "big risk"
is 1 year of production out of TO while continuing to let all your young weapons take a back seat.
every year that you let slide when you have a legitimate shot at the SB
is a big risk.
the nfl is way fickle. injuries are around the corner for everybody. you should never take a chance at the SB for granted.
The cowboys with owens had a legitimate shot at the SB. without, much less clear
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
true
honestly though, i think our superbowl hopes aren’t based on our wrs – they’re based on our defense and run game. Teams generally don’t succeed in january throwign the ball (although last year kills that argument)
Why no Barber for Boldin?
I have no idea about the cap ramifications, but isn’t James asking for his release and didn’t they lose their #3 RB?
RB > WR
I’d think our offense needs RB more than WRs.
(We’re not Denver under Dear Leader and can’t materialize RBs out of thin air.)
But RBs of quality are alot easier to find than good WRs
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 2:08 AM CST up reply actions
Not necessarily.
The recent drafts have shown that even rookies can contribute at WR and are shedding that whole it-takes-them-3-years-to-develop thing, unless of course they were picked late or as a RFA.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 2:24 AM CST up reply actions
I dont think there were any rookie WRs this year that had more of an influence than
Chris Johnson, Steve Slaton, Matt Forte or Dash when he was healthy
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 2:28 AM CST up reply actions
+1
Only Jackson, Royal, Avery and Bess did something and they didn’t help as much as the rookie RBs did
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:36 AM CST up reply actions
Well, of course
WRs have alot more to learn and don’t have the ball in their hands as much.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 2:42 AM CST up reply actions
Eddie Royal, Desean, Donnie Avery, Steve Breaston
Rookie WRs are learning the pro game faster. Look how quickly Fitz, Charles Johnson, and Brandon Marshall have become the new #1s.
Guys like Marvin, Chad, and T.O. are losing their status’ just as quickly.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 2:41 AM CST up reply actions
Andre Johnson
Probably top 2 next to only Fitz
by NamingRightsOnSale on Mar 5, 2009 2:42 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah I forgot him
Thanks
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 2:43 AM CST up reply actions
Breaston wasn't a rookie
And It’s very tangible that this year was an aberration. There are very few cases in which rookie WRs contributed like this.
Running backs are the most replacable full-time players in football, bar none. If Barber for Boldin were honestly a possibility, the Cowboys would be getting a steal.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
+1
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
We don't need two #1 wrs
And my guess is we’re looking to run the ball more. If so, we need barber.
Ah, but
according to KC Joyner’s metrics, Boldin is a #2 ;)
lol I do too generally
but theres just no way Boldin should be considered a #2.
His metrics show that Boldin doesn't fare well against the better CB's in the league.
That most of his yardage comes against the bottom feeders.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Fitz gets almost all the #1s
So I would like to see him as a true #1 receiver
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:37 AM CST up reply actions
and Roy is a #1? he' only had 1 thousand yard season ever.ever.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
so isn't Roy Williams..
he’s far from a #1
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 5:01 AM CST up reply actions
So Pacman's gone, Tank's gone, and T.O. is gone
what will people use to pile on us now?
Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry - ESPN
The haters never run out of material
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Mar 5, 2009 12:20 AM CST up reply actions
Such mixed feelings.
Going into last year, I was convinced the Cowboys would make it to the NFC Championship game because they had one of the most talented teams. Just like I was convinced that Philly and NYG would be good teams because they had talent and depth.
I would not have said the Steelers were one of the 2 best teams in their conference or the Cardinals were one of the 5 best teams in the NFC based on pure talent.
So I’ve been forced to change my idea on what makes a successful NFL team, to some degree. Teamwork, while maybe not as important as talent, does matter. This move helps the teamwork aspect of the Cowboys. But the moves so far this year seem to make the Cowboys a worse team on paper than last year. The only thing to feel good about is that the RB depth is very good, and with an O-line that likes to run, maybe this signals a change to a different style of offense. One that scores less points, but also turns the ball over less. I would argue that the Cowboys still have more talent on offense than half of the playoff teams last year.
I’m just not sure the Cowboys defense is good enough to overcome an offense that doesn’t perform at very high levels.
defense
this is what i’m worried about. we give up way too many HR’s to go to a running offense
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
but when you run the ball you eat up clock
you wear down there defense, and ours stays fresh, but we still do have some housekeeping to do on defense S, NT, DE, ILB
what running offense doesn't have a good defense?
you can’t have one without the other. you can’t eat up 100% of the clock. if you keep giving up TD’s, you are going to have to get away from your running offense
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Dallas...
Really didn’t give up that many long plays last year. They gave up some, but not as many as you’d think.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
I recall
two doozies against some team in purple.
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 5, 2009 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
But those are the two that sit in peoples minds...
If you look statistically, Dallas played a bend don’t break mentality.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Yes
but those two are burned into our memories and we will still recall them when we are in nursing homes
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 5, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
I guess last year wasn't THAT bad big-play-give-up wise
It sure seemed like it. As disappointing as the D was in 2007, it gave up less big plays than the 2008 version.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
I also recall two long plays against the Rams.
One long run and a deep pass down the middle to Avery.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 5, 2009 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
We did last year. That's for sure.
Our best defense will be to use the running game to keep the other team off the field.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
If the D had more..
safety help we would see a vast improvement…there is a reason why all the best pass defense teams have good safeties.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:38 AM CST up reply actions
Agree
Kind of sucks Dallas managed to get in the funk of needing O line depth, a STARTING strong safety, LB depth, D line depth, and NOW WR depth.
Oh, and 0 first round draft picks. Jerry’s going to need to work some magic in FA and the draft to fill the holes.
(Still somewhat optimistic)
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 2:48 AM CST up reply actions
Look at the bright side
If romo gets hurt, we’re the 06-07 Lions. Kitna to RW2??
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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Look at my screenname...
I was an optimist. Come september, I will be again.
I will always have optimism..
Every year is a SB year for the Cowboys in my book
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 12:20 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not being optimistic...
Just realistic.
Life goes on, TO is great, but not the end all be all of everything football.
We’ll find out how good Garret can bounce back.
I’m just not a pessimist.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
well compared to others you are looking through rosy colored glasses
Jk, I know i said earlier that I was neither for nor against this, but some peoples reactions have made me continually defend, and try to stop the ledge jumpers
I have found out...
And had to control jumping on posters due to overreaction.
Its what people do.
I have come to terms with it.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Yep. Big overhaul of the offense IMO coming down the pike
On the one hand, Garrett and Romo have just been set up BIG TIME to take the leadership role they need to have on this team.
On the other hand, it also puts the onus on these guys where if they don’t perform Jerry’s not afraid to get rid of them either!!! Perform or die!!! LOL
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Lol...
I think this move might make players play harder knowing that it doesn’t matter who you are you can be replaced…its a way to get accountability without going the Denver route and putting your Qb on the block
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:40 AM CST up reply actions
Too bad for him,
I think he is not a bad guy at all. He is polemical and all but the guy is productive as heck and has never gone out and order a killing spree (Pacman Jones), killed a guy and pay his family off (R.L) or shoot a guy and act as if you werent even there (Marvin Harrison). He is just a loose canon in the locker room but in these league who the heck isnt. Mark my words, Dallas is going to suffer big time without him. I´ll take a disruptive playmaker with passion over a pussy QB (Romo) anytime. This is freaking football not a movie cast.
You dont remember Charles Haley?? yeah he was crazy as hell and annoyed every possible teammate but was a key piece to that great defense and those Super Bowls in the 90´s. This is football, and these are violent guys, and most of the time, these are the better players by far.
Finally Romo, Witten and Garret are going to get to make out with out anybody bothering them,
Its just too bad to see such a great franchise put their players bitching first and doing anything to win second.
Jimmy Johnson knew it took more than Jesscia´s Simpson Golde boy to win a Super Bowl. (see; Charles Haley and James Washington [the guy hit teammates with the intention to hurt them during practice]) But those were the times were winning came first.
"he is not a bad guy at all"
Maybe not, nobody can sit and say that he didn’t cause any problems at all.
That’s naive.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Uhhhh
Look the dude is a hall of fame WR that has had problems with three teams.
I don’t even dislike the guy, but if you got fired from three jobs generally there’s a freaking reason.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Preach on
Guy’s a playmaker, no doubt, but this is team #3 he’s nearly ruined.
Offensively the team will no doubt have to change drastically to remain competitive, but I honestly do believe it’s possible. Guy wasn’t even the best player on that side of the ball. I still think Witten deserves that honor. To top it off, we have young up and comers at TE, WR, and RB, with a young(ish) QB who’s practically been given a clean slate. There’s plenty of room for optimism. The sky isn’t falling.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 1:29 AM CST up reply actions
Sayin TO nearly ruined the team is a bit of an exageration
We didnt even have a losing season while he was here
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 2:12 AM CST up reply actions
True...
I like TO, and I wanted him to stay, but if they felt he needed to go then they might be right about it. We only get to hear what comes out so we only have some knowledge of whats going on and if he was slowly killing out team we wouldn’t know until it really became a circus.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:42 AM CST up reply actions
Well
He was a major contribution to 90% of all the drama in Big D that absolutely hurt in the locker room last season. Sure, there were celebrity girlfriends, apparent coaching staff feuds, etc. but those all paled in comparison to TO.
I’m not on the “HOORAY! TO’S GONE!” bandwagon. I’m just trying to remain realistic. I’m certain the team lost a huge dimension in the passing game, but in the locker room I think this is a HUGE step in the right direction. I just hope they don’t stop here.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 2:53 AM CST up reply actions
My point is that you dont get these kind of players to play on your team very often
and letting him go because of a sorority-type kind of problems is beyond me. You cant possibly say that this benefits the team chances to win
So...
How many Super Bowls has Owens won?
Hell, how many playoff games has he won?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
WR dont win games, QB´s do, you should ask the same question about Romo
and thus realize that a guy that needs the guy who made him look good on the field gone to be a “leader” is the wrong QB for the Dallas Cowboys
Ok...
You have a point.
When Romo has played a couple more years I’ll probably put that stigma on him.
My point was that Owens hasn’t made a team win a superbowl so it’s not like Dallas can’t recover.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
And what if he doesn't?
Dallas might not make the super bowl but they can recover.
The have good rb’s, te, a good pass rushing defense, and a QB that can make plays.
The might go 4-12, I don’t know… but they have weapons.
This is now going to show what Garret and Romo are made of.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Roy Williams is not ObiWanKenobi
He’s not our only hope.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
I hope not
I don’t have much faith in RW2
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
haha exactly, however of course RW2 must be a huge help
he might not be your only hope Brigrigga but there is not one team in the NFL that can be successful without a legit number 1 receiver.
I think you're mistaken.
not one team in the NFL that can be successful without a legit number 1 receiver.
Roy can do it, and if he can’t someone else will.
Who’s the big numero uno in Pittsburgh? Santonio Holmes? He’s just coming alongside Hines Ward recently.
What about the Bears back against the Colts? What about the Titans this past year?
Star WRs are not a necessity for success.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:09 AM CST up reply actions
You made his point...
Hines Ward is the number 1 on Pitts team and if you don’t believe it look at his thrown to pct. His stats has dropped but the play of the defense has gone up
All the other teams never won a championship.
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 1:51 AM CST up reply actions
Then how did the Pats win all those Superbowls?
Deion Branch is a legit #1? He’s comparable to any guy on the roster.
Everybody seems to think Roy Williams is dookie because he was on a bad Dallas team last year and on many bad Detroit teams the years prior.
Quarterbacks are what make WRs into champions. Fitz and Bolden and Breaston would’ve had much different years if Leinert was at the helm.
And Santonio did not win the game for the Steelers; Roth did.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 2:00 AM CST up reply actions
Whoa...
Is everyone forgetting Austin..The guy has big play potential. And Roy Williams ver 2.0 isn’t a bad receiver either…There is no way we go 4-12
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:45 AM CST up reply actions
HUH
if any one thinks we are gonna go 4-12 they should just stop watching football.
by NamingRightsOnSale on Mar 5, 2009 2:46 AM CST up reply actions
Austin...
Are you talking about the guy with 18 CAREER receptions? Austin hasnt proved anything yet, but gets hyped up as if he were the next sure thing
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 3:13 AM CST up reply actions
Not a sure thing
But a player that has shown a lot of potential. He wasn’t quite lighting it up, but every time he made a play, it was awfully impressive, and when you consider he made so many clutch plays with only 18 CAREER receptions, it makes his accomplishments look even more impressive.
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by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 3:29 AM CST up reply actions
I did say..
big play “potential”…now I know he is relatively unproven but now we will get to see what he can do.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 3:32 AM CST up reply actions
Neither the Bears not the Titans...
Won a super bowl either. The Titans didn’t even win a playoff game.
This idea that a run on 1st, run on 2nd, pass on 3rd, and punt on 4th offense can win super bowls is just not true.
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
Wouldn't you agree that those teams had successful seasons?
And we all know the Cowboys won’t follow the same formula every drive. This is still an explosive offense with players that can score from miles away.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
+1
It’s not like anyone is saying that this isn’t a risky move, or that TO was the only problem. It’s just that cutting him MAY end up being part of the solution. We’ll see…
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
+1 MauMonta...
good luck filling his shoes…you thought Romo regressed last season…expect deep drops in production…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 5:13 AM CST up reply actions
I guess Philly and San Fran made the same mistake letting him go?
I loves me some TO but I realize he does something that we as Joe Public don’t see. Why does this crap keep following him?
he caused legitimate problems there that were public
he migth have done the same with the cowboys but it isn’t as obvious.
and SF was going to let him go anyway
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
+1
There’s just something else here that we’re not seeing I guess. This locker room was more fractured than we thought.
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Well releasing him hasnt worked for either of those teams
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 2:13 AM CST up reply actions
I dunno'
Philly hasn’t had a losing season post-TO, have they?
Seriously, I’m curious. I can’t recall one. They were dominating the NFC East there for a bit, if I remember correctly.
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by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 2:17 AM CST up reply actions
I dont think they have but...
They havent won a SB since he left. And if youre happy with not having losing seasons, we havent had one with TO on the team.
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 2:22 AM CST up reply actions
We were 10-6 with Antonio Bryant at WR
in the Tuna’s 1st year. Made the playoffs, too.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 2:26 AM CST up reply actions
I understand that we didn't either
I’m not ignoring that fact. My only point is we aren’t necessarily in SF’s boat now that TO’s gone. Dallas could very well continue to improve without TO. It will be extremely challenging, but possible nonetheless.
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by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 2:55 AM CST up reply actions
Philly has had two loosing seaons...
since TO left. 2007 for starters.
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
Hmm
I didn’t want to see him go and I was almost positive we wouldn’t let him go..but now that it has happened I’m almost in a state of shock…I didn’t know I had become so used to hearing TO as a Cowboy…
Can Roy really be the guy…Austin will be our #2 receiver so I’m not too scared that teams won’t have to worry about our passing game…
I’m just going to have to wait and see what happens.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 12:19 AM CST reply actions
+1000000
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wow
ESPN just dropped Indy and NE as possible destinations (though no sources)
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Like Bill Polian is going to sign him
(shakes head)
yeah really...c'mon guys use your heads.....
Denver….no flipping way….not with a new HC…and one headache already in Marshall
You got that right
Unless T.O is willing to take a massive paycut and play for only a one year contract (so that we can terminate it the minute T.O starts drama), T.O will be no where near Indy
by metal_militia on Mar 5, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
i dont even want to think about TO in NE. Ifeel like i just got pulled over.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
TO will be playing for a SB contender...I assure you that...
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 5:16 AM CST up reply actions
I say Indy or Minny
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
Childress came out and said not interested......
so did NO, NY, Washington……There is not going to be a big market for TO I’m telling you..
My Bet
He is in a Raiders uniform by the start of season.. Just too perfect of a match
by NamingRightsOnSale on Mar 5, 2009 2:58 AM CST up reply actions
I think
it’s a mistake. But what do I n=know ;-) Seriously, I just hope he won’t come back to haunt us on the field, like he did when he met his former team.
oh my...
jeebus.
has anyone from the cowboys confirmed this? all i see online are folks referring to other online sites as their sources….
how the hell does michael smith “break” this story anyway?
where you at spags?
im shocked. i cant say that cutting TO will make the boys better … but the shift in focus or mentality within the organization might be a good thing..
can we trade romo for cutler?
It's all over the tele
It’s more than official.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
foxsports, nfl network
this site, etc…
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
The source may be biased but they wouldn't devote an entire half hour to this story if
it didn’t have legs.
im not saying i dont believe it to be true
but…
i remember them devoting 10 minutes on how it was a good decision for terry glenn to sign his injury clause and return to the cowboys…
only to have TG call in and say “i aint sign a damn thing” …
i just dont trust ESPN. anyone have a ranch report account?
“the TO saga is not over”
http://dal.scout.com/a.z?s=112&p=2&c=842478&ssf=1
You can't read the rest without being a member.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 5, 2009 12:30 AM CST up reply actions
right...
hence the “anyone have a ranch report account” …
im sure someone here is a memeber…
Well it wouldn't be the Cowboys without drama right?
Maybe in the rest of that report it will say Pacman is coming back as well.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 5, 2009 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
LOL
how crazy would it be for pacadam jones and TO to battle it out on michael irvin’s show?
Now that would be good t.v..
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 5, 2009 12:39 AM CST up reply actions
weird.
ranch report had a a “blog report: TO released” on the home page…
just went back, and it had been removed…
HMMMMMMMMM….
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/03/05/owens.released.ap/index.html?eref=T1
well… at the very least Calvin Watkins article/source was innaccurate …
calvin said TO was notified the team “wanted to go in a different direction”… this article says… “he hadnt heard the news”
What a surprise..
Watkins was inaccurate, that has never happened.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 5, 2009 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
I just think you may be in denial, Mr. Galvan.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:05 AM CST up reply actions
no sir.
in my mind, its a forgone conclusion that TO is gone.
i just think its amusing that there is always additional drama/speculation to every cowboys story.
Truly.
Even Mickey’s article has noted that the Cowboys have yet to confirm.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:49 AM CST up reply actions
I really want to read the rest of that ranch report.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
+1
im obviously joking… but he does have the same amount of post season wins as romo.
Yeah and about...
ALOT less wins.
Sorry I’m not attacking you, but this has been mentioned before.
If Tony Romo is the best QB not to win a playoff game, then Jay Cutler is the best QB not to have a winning season since high school.
And if anyone says, “he played at vandy” psssh. Vanderbilt just won a bowl game last year.
I just don’t know why everyone’s on someones balls that can’t win more then 8 games while playing in the AFC West.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
The last point is the biggest one.
Plus the guy had 20 or so turnovers; many of which were just as irresponsible as Romo’s goofiest turnovers. But if it’s their boy it’s all too easily overlooked. These are the same QB experts that are giddy about a Jon Kitna that averaged 30 turnovers per season in Detroit in ’06 and ’07.
Rob Phillips just blogged the news.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
It also says the Cowboys have not confirmed it.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 5, 2009 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
Well...
It’s not just a rumor because the mothership hasn’t confirmed.
Spags is in bed and Eatman’s out partying with Stephen Jones.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:27 AM CST up reply actions
Haha I didn't know Eatman and Stephen were buddies.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 5, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
LOL!
Seriously
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
Spags is coming up with his "All is right in the Cowboys world and this was the greatest move of all time" story. LOL
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So true
DC.com is basically the Fox News of Cowboys news. Spin central. Brad Sham is the only guy on the site willing to spit the occasional truth.
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by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 1:38 AM CST up reply actions
ROY E. WILLIAMS IS NOT THE ONLY PLAYER ON THE ROSTER.
A couple of guys named Marion Barber III, Felix Jones, and Tashard Choice are decent football players.
If only the team had some sort of defensive specialist coaching, with a defense that showed signs of brilliance, continuity, and strength…
If only… a defense and a running game…
Yeah...
That Jason Witten dude, I hear is pretty good.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Why do teams have to be scared of a WR?
What CB was scared to go up against TO last year?
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
this goes below to stoproyce
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
its not the corners its the def coordinators . you know the guys that make the gameplans?
They tend to scheme against him .Finding it a necessity to roll coverage his way. When they don’t, well you remember the SF game this year? TO lights them up. the only corner that handled TO one on one was Sean Springs.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
True.
I just don’t think he will be would have been as much a threat to them in 09.
I really think this offense will be very different from that which we saw in 07 and they tried to replicate in 08.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:39 AM CST up reply actions
Me 2.
We can do better than 9-7 right?
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:46 AM CST up reply actions
+1000000
Even without TO we should be able to win 11
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:49 AM CST up reply actions
Anthony Henry?? Do we play Detroit this year?? LOL
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Nope...
the only NFC north team we play is GB
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:50 AM CST up reply actions
right he is we'll see how good when he's getting doubled every play who else are they going to be scared of?
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
He's posted good numbers...
without Owens before.
I’m not saying he won’t get doubled, but he is good.
This has nothing to do with Owens, I’m just saying that there are other good players on the team.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
i agree AFB . I hope you guys are right.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Hey...
And I’m not saying Dallas won’t or will struggle, but TO isn’t the end all be all and you can get far in the playoffs without a guy like him.
San Diego was doing it consistently using Antonio Gates and LT with a defense that is very similar if not a little worse.
I think Dallas has better widereceivers then San Diego did a couple of years ago.
It’s all relative.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
The problem with that example is that youre looking at the WR position in a vacuum
Different teams succeed with different strengths and weakenesses. We just lost one of our strengths
I wear a black armband because on March 5th we cut TO and our 2009 season died.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 5, 2009 2:29 AM CST up reply actions
It can also be argued that we just lost one of our weaknesses, too.
Cutting T.O. did include his potential decline in productivity on the field, but it also merits more than what he did for the team outside of the WR position.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 2:33 AM CST up reply actions
+1000
with him we might have been forced to pass more, in fear that he may explode and take us down with him. There is no reason now that we should pass more than run.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:51 AM CST up reply actions
He was great before TO
No reason he won’t be great without TO.
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by APerfectStar on Mar 5, 2009 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
People tend to forget
The guy was a f’n badass well before TO got here. With a much weaker receiving and running back stable, Witten was the only playmaker on the team for a couple of years prior to TO. Guy will continue to be the best tight end in football.
Man, TO apologists refuse to see that this team does in fact have playmakers NOT wearing the number 81.
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by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 1:42 AM CST up reply actions
do you watch a lot of football?
i’m not trying to insult you, but do you?
have you ever seen the chargers or KC play?
Gates? Gonzo? yeah, they are Doubled a lot less often then you’d think. very few people here have ever gameplanned a football game before. don’t pretend you know 100% what you’re talking about.
football ? oh snap i thought we were talking politics?
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
i already explained it. I hope you guys are right,really i do . I love this team but we just got a whole lot less talented.
And no sh%t they won’t double Witten every play and yes we have other playmakers but teams don’t usually double rb’s.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
NO Cowboys will be doubled..It's not warranted....They will stack the line, shut down the running game.
and blitz the crap out of Romo…..we’ll see how he holds up..I’m sure liking theis Kitna move even better today…..he’ll be seeing action next season…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 5:28 AM CST up reply actions
Depends on what fan you talk to.
Apparently, and I wasn’t aware of this, Witten didn’t become a good TE until TO was signed. Now he’ll go back to being just an extra O-lineman since he’s not good enough to even send out on routes.
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i'm sorry
you think they are so different than last season? brooking putting us over the top? or maybe it’s losing Henry
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Losing Henry
Was a total plus. If they can pick up a DECENT CB, it’d be an upgrade. Henry was awful, and would be equally bad playing safety.
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by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 1:44 AM CST up reply actions
I liked Henry in the past
but the reason they signed him was to go against big WRs like TO and Plax. Now, the East is getting smaller and quicker at WR with guys like Desean Jackson, Santana and Sinorice Moss, and Steve Smith.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:47 AM CST up reply actions
+1
But we don’t need to go out and get anything but a relief corner..As long as Tnew is healthy we are still 3 strong at CB…did you forget about Scandrick and Jenkins.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:55 AM CST up reply actions
drop some metrics on us then
team me how the team leading the NFL in sacks is not good enough, and can not improve upon its past performance?
the team is really good all around, the defense is freaking awesome
the only missing piece on this team is attitude and heart and thats a rally BIG piece
sacks is a great stat
but it’s not really dispositive of a good defense. How about 20th in points/gm?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
now you are making a case
but now you have to go into our Turnover ratio compared to others and how many times they had to defend a short field, do you have those stats as well?
ok
we gave the ball away 33 times – which is pretty high but you can’t expect it to go down too much. maybe high 20’s. you really think that 5-7 less turnovers is going to elevate the 20th ranked defense to top 5?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
I think it will make a significant difference that
running the ball more will keep our defense fresh and help prevent ill advised interceptions, so in turn could def. help the defense
a reasonable estimate for turnovers
is still about 5 less. Look at the passes attempted and the passes attempted by a running team. we passed about 33% more. that’s about 5Int’s less.
and it’s circular because it assumes we will always have a lead and will always run. but that’s not the case because if we ever do get down, we’re going to go pass.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
i have to ask.
did you watch the second half of the season?
you do know the team that gave up a butt loaad of points to Philly in week 2 was not the same one that ended the season, right?
did you watch the baltimore game? the second philly game?
stop asking condescending questions young’n
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
because pitt isn't a great offense
and really, you are going to reference the pitt game?
i’m not saying they aren’t a good defense. but to be successful as a run first team, you have to have a pretty elite defense.
and nobody has talked about if we can actually be an elite running team. we were great at running the ball when we had an elite passing threat. if teams start puttiing 8 in the box, are we still that good?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
i hope we are
but that’s not going on much. he had a few good games but how many carries did he have total? how many games did he play?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
well we wont find out the answers to these questions
till next season, but at the very least there are some reason this team can be optimistic from both sides of the ball, and we still have alot of things that will happen before next season is here
+1
But we were pretty good at running the ball the 1 game Kosier was in the whole game…Against GB we did have 200+ yards on the ground
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 2:57 AM CST up reply actions
It is now
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
I am totally all for MBII to get Boldin now...we NEED to do something...
Although I’d prefer a speed receiver like Chad Johnson….but why go out and get a distraction right ?? Chad is a distraction right ?? You know, he get’s coverage on ESPN, right ???
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 5:34 AM CST up reply actions
Not only that how many points were directly given from the offense
IE fumbles and punts returned
Show me the stats of the top 5 defenses and where they ranked in TOs as a team?
why don't you do some work yourself?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
dang, cause I am too lazy, and just asking you to prove your point
But my point is that there usually seems to be a direct correlation with a defense rank and TO ration
i just looked up 3 different stats
i’m tired of doing work disproving random points you come up with off the top of your head that turn out not to be correct
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
+1
love the sarcasm!
If only they had a super awesome kicker and a HUmanGO offensive line.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:30 AM CST up reply actions
you can't have a balanced offense...
If you run the ball all the time.
Hey I got an idea… Why don’t they just run the wishbone?
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It was nicely played
I like the fact that Jerry cast enough doubt that NYG and Washington spent their free agency wad before he was released.
Minnesotta is a team that desperately needs a wideout who demands extra attention. They missed out on who’s your moma
Oh, great point!
About waiting for WAS and NY to spend their cap already. You know he’s not going to PHI.
That is pretty damn shrewd of Jerry.
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by APerfectStar on Mar 5, 2009 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
True…had not thought of that.
Minnesotta is close and WO is part of what is holding them back….deparate times sometimes result in wierd marrages. Either way no one is going to give TO big singing money or lock themself into a longterm deal…Any TO signing will be like the series of one year deals he got when he came to Dallas.
That is a great point.
Go to the Vikings TO!! You look great in purple!!! LOL
Mickey Spagnola is on NFL Net right now.
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i can very much see Minny getting TO...
that would make them NFC favorites, even with Sage at the helm…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 5:39 AM CST up reply actions
Are you talking about bench presses?
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:42 AM CST up reply actions
With Romo at QB
either Roy, Crayton, or Austin will have 1000 yards—maybe two of them if Witten doesn’t. Doubt it though because the backs will get mucho catches.
Just be open for Romo. If not, then watch him run.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:38 AM CST up reply actions
or better yet
throw a block
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:39 AM CST up reply actions
+1000000000000000000000000000000000
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
It will give usa more complete assessement
Having to work with less the numbers will have to come more honestly.
I still expect Tony to put up 3500 yards and 28 TD if he gets a full season with only about half that in INT. It won’t matter though as he will still bemoaned if Dallas does not win a playoff game and he will be the next comming if they win in the playoffs even if it is beacuse of an exceptional defense.
Ummm...
No.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:42 AM CST up reply actions
Romo overrated??
Hmm…having the second most TDs in the whole history of the NFC is overrated.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 3:01 AM CST up reply actions
I believe your going to see drastic decline in Romo's numbers..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 5:40 AM CST up reply actions
Good.
He doesn’t need to be slinging the ball around as much—just before halftime, a couple of drives in the 3rd quarter, and maybe in crunch time.
“Romo-friendly” probably suggests a more balanced attack.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Well...Well....Well
It happened like I and others here said it would. Shefter and Glazer nailed it when they said TO would be cut before or right after the Combine…..
The point is he had to go….After Jerry’s comments the other day it was almost certain. Good for him because he made the right decision. I think he finally realized TO comes with too much baggage, too many distractions whether it’s his doing or not. It’s over and it’s time to move on….
So begins the era of RW and Austin as the 1 and 2. Crayton as the 3. Maybe, just maybe Jerry trys to pull a trade for a WR, but I don’t think so. Hopefully, he gets that speedy WR in the draft to compliment RW and Austin. Then again defense should still be top priority come April.
+1
Let’s get younger.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:43 AM CST up reply actions
Wow
this really shocked me for some reason ….. but oh well. I am very curious as to what we do to replace him.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Good luck, T.O.
Let’s hope this works out for our squad.
Now it’s put up or shut up time for Romo and Garrett.
by PaulFVillarreal on Mar 5, 2009 12:41 AM CST reply actions
And everyone else that wanted him gone
Roy better be ready to be a #1 and there better be a plan to get a WR, at least in the draft.
I don’t feel as bad as I could because of the analysis Rafael made regarding TO’s production.
by PaulFVillarreal on Mar 5, 2009 12:43 AM CST up reply actions
our RBs
I think its more on our RBs to perform than our WRs
by NamingRightsOnSale on Mar 5, 2009 12:49 AM CST up reply actions
Good point
Let’s hope the run-heavy offense works out
by PaulFVillarreal on Mar 5, 2009 12:59 AM CST up reply actions
It just might be easier to win football games
by keeping that ball in our blue & white mitts, rather than chucking it all around, stopping the clock, and trying to outscore like every drive is a 2minute warning.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:03 AM CST up reply actions
Me too. He did look like he might be on the decline.
I’m okay with us getting rid of TO but I won’t go so far as to say that RW2 can take his place. I’m not a RW2 fan.
Garrett better prove that genius label now!!!
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How
would you guys feel if Jerry turns around, gets a young WR in the draft, and gets Torry Holt for a few years?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
i wouldn't mind a guy like Holt replacing Crayton.
But it would just bring more publicity. Holt is still relevant in my world of football. That is, i still think he is a really good player.
Holt can still play...
somewhere other than Dallas.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:01 AM CST up reply actions
I like Crayton.
Sure, he can be mouthy—but he’s one of those solid Jabar Gafney-types.
I just hope they don’t go waving 2nd rounders to Cleveland for Braylon Edwards. His name’s been thrown around in trade talks lately with other team.s
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
I would like Austin to have to earn the staring job.
Dallas has not done well when they hand young players a starting job and they did not need to win it in camp. I think a one year signing would make sense as long as the player knows and fits the system
that's Holt
Martz’s system a little like Garrett’s system. I think it would be a good signing, if he gets released
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Mar 5, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
Martz's offenses are infamous for ignoring TEs.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
true
thank god Garretts system isn’t exactly like Martz’s.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Mar 5, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
+1
I’d rather they take 2 guys in the draft to better their chances of getting some youth and depth to push Miles and Sam and StandBACK!
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
Thank you
I want to now see if the Team can go further in this direction, but I am a lot happier than I thought it would be now that TO is actually released. I feel a sense of calmness and confidence will grow in the Cowboys locker room and guys will be way more team oriented knowing that they too can be cut and the team is serious about its chemistry issues. Also, I am excited about our new running oriented offense since we have the best RB corps in the NFL and the best TE by far both blocking and receiving.
by NamingRightsOnSale on Mar 5, 2009 12:47 AM CST reply actions
a sense of calmness and confidence growing ?
I sure hope you’re right although I don’t think so. Let’s juts cross fingers they don’t start the season by loosing a game or two.
Nah
If anything we will get off to a good start cause everyone will be playing really hard to prove they can win without him. This was also good timing cause its a nice motivational push all the way to the season and will keep the players on their toes.
by NamingRightsOnSale on Mar 5, 2009 1:29 AM CST up reply actions
They'll also be playing hard because they might be next. LOL
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by kameleon_o on Mar 5, 2009 1:32 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I like RW2 and Austin...
and we still have Crayton as #3, and Stanback and Hurd. With the offense going more run-oriented it’ll be interesting to see what develops. I don’t see a trade for a WR happening.
Scott in Austin
We may have to start calling him RW1 soon.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:49 AM CST up reply actions
I'll just go with RW when that time comes
by Dave Halprin on Mar 5, 2009 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
I guess there will be no need for the “1”.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:53 AM CST up reply actions
I won't miss him. The Cowboys are a mess either way, so use this as an opportunity
to rebuild with some chemistry and character.
They're not a mess Fergie
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:49 AM CST up reply actions
Well, if they are, then I hope next year the purge is directed at the coaching staff. If they're
not, then releasing TO was the right move.
The coaching staff seriously needs some stability.
I like that post about missing Jimmy Johnson the other day. I remember how it was so cool that he was only the 2nd coach ever for the Cowboys.
Since his firing, it’s all been flings.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
Somewhere JFE just...
had a “Screaming O”.
Scott in Austin
Does anyone here...
Remember when Quincy Carter was QB?
Or am I just the only one?
Haha. Trust me, it could be worse.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Hutch was kind enough to stop by the blog earlier.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Mar 5, 2009 12:57 AM CST up reply actions
Right on
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Thank you Bill
I would like to take this time to thank Bill Parcells for getting us out of that crap with good team management and amazing draft picks, Bobby Carpenter aside.
by NamingRightsOnSale on Mar 5, 2009 1:31 AM CST up reply actions
Watch him sign TO
LOL
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:43 AM CST up reply actions
Don't forget Clint Stoerner......
…….Who will best be remembered for helping Tennessee win a National Title by fumbling the ball with nobody around him.
I liked Quincy in a couple games.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:54 AM CST up reply actions
Quincy
Quite possibly the best unintentional comedy QB of all time…
by NamingRightsOnSale on Mar 5, 2009 1:36 AM CST up reply actions
you don't understand AFB!
our team sucks!
we have no talent!
our defense has absolutely no promise! our QB has never proven himself by leading the team down the field in big games, only to be let down by his WRs! our coach does not understand how to plan Xs and Os! The team’s RBs are crap!
… AHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
If only we had a super quick and athletic NT
that could excel in a defensive-minded coach’s system without everybody wanting to move him to end.
If only we had a MLB who was an up&coming star that rallies the D.
If only…
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:58 AM CST up reply actions
lol
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:58 AM CST up reply actions
Good for the football team
They had to be pretty convinced that it was the right move for the football team because it was a disaster from a financial perspective.
They had already paid a good portion of this years costs with last years 12 million resign bonus.
it truly was a financial disaster i hope jerry knows wtf he's doing.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
You got that right.
They HAD to be pretty convinced. This reminds me of when I lost $10mil, but made up for it later because I had a happy home life.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:59 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly
I remember fans always complaining that you can cut guys like they did in the old days to make a point because of the salary cap. It was too harmful to the team. We’ll, Jerry just blew that old axiom out of the water. This tells that entire dang locker room of whiners that NONE of them are safe.
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I'm just putting it in perspective....
Could it be bad… yeah… but at least there shouldn’t be alot of Dallas fans that think we’ll suck next year.
You have hope in every game when you have a solid defense(which dallas has, not great but solid) and a good QB.
I mean I remember when Dallas scored 21 points and it was a huge offensive day.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
except that we score over 24 points only 5 or 6 times last year I think
(and many times under 24 :-)
but to me a win is a win no matter how many points. that’s what metters at the end
I remember when our QB threw almost as many TD's as he did INT's and I thought it was a great season.
Now we’ve got a guy who throws over 2 TD’s a game and we want to trade him for someone else every time he has a bad game. We’re all spoiled
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With our team
If we run the ball like we can and our Defense comes through and turnovers are cut down (I know lots of IFs, but possible if we want to win a Super Bowl) 21 points will even cover the spread for us…
by NamingRightsOnSale on Mar 5, 2009 1:38 AM CST up reply actions
And this year...
We get some turnovers…we will be very good.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 3:07 AM CST up reply actions
i think people need to realize
that there’s a big difference between criticizing this move, and thinking we’re in a lot of trouble.
nobody here thinks we’re the worst team in the league now. but, it’s still possible to think we are alright and not like this move. There are no cliff jumpers.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
well
i meant in the can in the sense that i don’t think we’ll win the SB – and I thought that was possible with TO.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
ok
well that sounds a lil better, but how about we wait till training camp and see what additions we get before we just analyze the subtractions, not that you cant now, cause thats what blogs are for
but we dont fully know yet, so anything is possible, I mean at the begging of the year would you say aa Pit is a good team, but they wont make it to the SB, whether the refs gave it to them or not
haha
Oh there are man. Trust me there are.
I have no problem with criticism.
I haven’t saw alot of stupid posts tonight. Like I said I can’t particularly disagree on either side of the TO storm.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
you'll read what you want to read
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
What does that mean?
Dude there are people who will come out and say the season is over.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
i don't see them
what i see is people getting mad at other people for criticizing this move as if they’re being paranoid – which simply isn’t the case.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
They haven't come out yet.
But they will, I don’t care if you don’t think they will.
I’ve been on this blog and the blue and silver report long enough that they will.
I’d put money on it.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
i've been on this blog since it started
but that’s not even my point. people are arguing with people as if they are overreacting…and nobody is
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
I don't think you're overreacting.
I just think/hope you’re wrong. This season just got even MORE interesting if that was even possible.
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Yeah no joke.
Did I sound like I was calling anyone out? NO.
Kameleon, you’ve seen it before, you’ve seen blanket statements.
I remember a guy on here said that Dallas would be no better then a 4-12 team without TO two weeks ago.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
I've seen that too.
It’s going to be crazy IMO. Some fans took sides in this brutal TO vs. Romo/Garrett/Witten war and aren’t going to back down just because TO isn’t here anymore.
This will be the dumbest move ever made. We’ll be picking in the top 10 of the draft next year. Romo and Witten just became half as good as they were before. Yada yada yada. Can’t wait till tomorrow!!!
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God yeah.
They’ll be burning Jerry an effigy tomorrow. And probably one for Romo and Garrett.
How many times will we have to hear one poster in particular complain about Romo tomorrow?? Oh the humanity!!!!
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exactly he's already on the books for 9 mil wether he plays or not, epic fail.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Well, save it and get an old Tim Brown throwback
and you may be able to get the “Owens” on the back of Brown’s after T.O. goes back to the bay.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:13 AM CST up reply actions
no kidding I have that same problem
RW1 jersey DONE
Julius Jones jersey DONE
TO jersey Done
if we trade Barber, I will have to buy some new ones
julius jones jersey
that one is on you
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
=(
I got a Roy Williams #31 jersey as a gift the day after there was speculation that we were going to cut him
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 3:10 AM CST up reply actions
Just replace the 3 with a 1 and you have the other Roy Williams Jersey
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Mar 5, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, if Barber leaves
then you’ve got the jinx going, man.
I’d recommend getting a Kitna jersey.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:14 AM CST up reply actions
Romo better NEVER get traded for Cutler. I'm not paying THAT much money for a jersey again. LOL
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I can't listen to more then a minute of Bayless
and the 2 live Stews without wanting to fly to New York and strangle them.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
I'm okay with TO being cut but the thought of that shark Bayless ripping him to shreds makes me sick. Bunch of jackals in the media.
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Exactly.
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No..9 mil would have been paid out.....
Here or not, it is 9 Mil. The difference is he is not here… were taking an extra 600K on the cap for cutting him.
no we cut our only proven big play wr and lose 9 million in cap space and the player.the point is it is a financial disaster.so i hope jerry has a plan.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
yeah, it's called putting a team togther without the headaches...Goes a long way...
teams win all the time without media darlings…
i like how people are so quick with the "had to be done..."
I can see potential reasons why it had to be done – but no story I’ve heard so far tells me it had to be done.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Did you not see the BS that surrounded TO last year whether it's his fault or not???
We just couldn’t have that again this seaon if we were going to be succesfull.
the biggest media distraction week
we won that game – with TO and Witten and Romo having great days
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
and this is the cowboys
they won’t be able to get rid of media headaches.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
really, the better?
so much better that we give away 100yds and double digit td’s?
whatever, useless arguing with people like you. if you believe what you believe without any actual evidence of player’s feelings or actual incidents, then i won’t convince you otherwise
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Dude, Steve Breatston had 1000 yards.
Our TE nearly had 1000 yards. It’s only 65 per game.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:21 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, 1000 yards is not the barometer of a great WR anymore.
What’s a 1000 yards worth when the biggest chunk of it came against the 49’ers?
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+1
Could you imagine this offense going through that again? As a fan, I would be really apprehensive about this season.
Sure, I woulda loved to have won a SB with T.O., but it’s been real. Time to develop our own guys and stop leasing from other teams.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:23 AM CST up reply actions
I think our successful draft last year proved this to management.
Time to develop our own guys and stop leasing from other teams.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:24 AM CST up reply actions
jerry didn't figure it out
he chose. he could be right, he’s probably wrong. jones isn’t infallible.
this had to be done stuff assumes a lot that we haven’t heard.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Nah...Jerry was right on point with this one....finally...
People questioned, like myself whether he should’ve extended Newman, Hamlin and MB3 so quickly, but Jerry definately got this one right.
MB3
MB3 deserved the security so he can run the way he does. Worth every penny…
by NamingRightsOnSale on Mar 5, 2009 1:35 AM CST up reply actions
WRs in there mid 30s need to be willing to accept a lesser role in the offense
Not a #1 role.
I’m not so sure T.O. would do that in Dallas. He had too much invested there to, say, be just a deep threat or slot guy.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:20 AM CST up reply actions
I've heard some good comments from Dilfer
just saying that-
he may be losing a step-bla, bla, bla
production was down
much of the rest of the team isn’t concerned with drama
TO is a cool guy until the pressure’s really on
Of course, while he was saying all this BSPN was only showing tape of T.O. yelling at Haley and Gurode, etc.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:18 AM CST up reply actions
as to losing a step
i find it ironic that people are willing to take a look at torry holt and marvin harrison as replacements.
even a slow TO or even a choking TO is a top 10 WR – and much better than RW
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
+1
Holt can still play.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
Not that I think Dallas should sign him.
I think the offense will be geared to the feature the running game, no need to get another old WR.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
I need an NFL guru
If he signs with another team I guess the cap hit remains? What’s the rule on that?
we have succumbed to the media and ESPN for sure, Ed Werder is jumping up and down now
sad sad moment
Maybe...?
This is an attempt by Jerry to smoke out the unnamed source?
LOL. It's a canary trap!!!
Jerry only told 1 person that he was releasing TO and somehow it got out!!! That guy is the mole!!!
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Here's a sobering thought courtesy of Josh Ellis @ dallascowboys.com
If the reports are accurate, Owens’ accelerated prorated signing bonus will count $9.6 million against the team’s salary cap this year, sending the team’s total of dead money for this season to nearly $15 million against the $127 million salary cap.
That number would soar close to $20 million if the Cowboys decide to trade or release strong safety Roy Williams, who would count another $4.4 million against the cap.
Oh... Oh, that's giving me a clue. Yeah, ye-yeah, I've got a raging clue right now.
I was StarStruck at TBB/BSR, now...
Yeah, it's a pretty shocking number
But a lot of it does save money this year, other than TO’s transaction, of course.
How foolish does Jerry look now? In the middle of the 08 season, he signs the guy to a massive 3 year extension, and now he’s cut him shortly after the 08 season has ended.
Oh well, it was probably the only call he could make…but man, if only he’d have kept level headed before extending his contract…
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 2:13 AM CST up reply actions
I thought TO was extended prior to the season
Because it decreased his base salary for 2008 and moved the bulk towards the signing bonus which was to be spread over the 3 years. In essence, it freed up money to get the other guys signed last season.
If TO had produced as well as he did in 2007 without the weekly drama, then it would have been a good deal. I think most people (at least the Cowboys fans) thought TO had matured and deserved the new contract.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
Hell, I would've resigned the practice squad guys to extensions
after the season the team had in 07. Had they won the Superbowl, they could’ve been 7 year contracts!
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 2:31 AM CST up reply actions
Come to think of it
I do think you’re right.
Now I feel foolish…damn it.
Oh well, point still KINDA’ stands haha
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 2:59 AM CST up reply actions
It's all good
I wasn’t sure that you weren’t right. The Cowboys made so many moves last season it’s easy to lose track.
It does suck that the TO of 2007 started to revert to some of his bad habits in 2008.
IMO, Jerry really did not want to let him go, so there must have been a lot of evidence that convinced him it would be better for the team to cut him and eat the financial loss as well as go into the new stadium without the large draw he would have provided.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
Gah!
We’re gonna keep RW1 and not TO! :’(
Er, maybe?
Pretty much confirmed fact.
Not knocking you for hoping, but accepting the fact is probably the best course of action, if one is to cope with the loss(if you really see it as one) and move on.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Mar 5, 2009 2:15 AM CST up reply actions
Many people..
Have said that now its time for Romo, Witten, Garrett to all stand up to make this move a good move but I think now its more up to our Defense to stand up. With TO any play can score and now the defense doesn’t have that cushion of knowing that TO can cover their mistakes, now our team will rely on them more to get the job done and now they have to produce. I for one am tired of hearing how we have almost 1000 first round picks in our defense yet they hover around mediocre in points allowed and yards against. I’m not saying we have a bad defense because we don’t we have a very good one. Now its just time for them to start walking.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 5, 2009 3:35 AM CST reply actions
What makes me the most happy about T.O. being gone
is now this will finally be Romo’s team and he now can take over the leadership role without having to worry about the fallout of T.O. who gained too much power in this organization.
Again Jerry kudos, job well done!
In Romo we Trust
+1
I’m very excited about the direction this team is going.
The “ho-hum-let’s-just-play-football” guys will unite with the “ho-hum-let’s-just-coach-football” guys, and we will indeed see a blissful year and future, even if we don’t get the trophy in ’09.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Romo will shine or fail this year...His deciding Year...
I see him being exposed..
Most TD receptions over the past three seasons.
2nd most yards receiving on 3rd down over the last three seasons.
One of only four WR’s to eclipes the thousand yard receiving mark over the last four years.
good luck replacing that…….
Are you a Cowboys fan?
or a TO fan? I’m actually a fan of both and wouldn;t have minded is he was here next year but this is ultimately healthier for us. Cut out the cancer and the cells(Crayton, Roy II) wil die
that's if you believe HE was the cancer...."ultimately" will be 2-3 seasons from now...
I look at Garrett being the radiation treatment, and he didn’t do enough creative exploration surgery and the cancer has spread beyond control, and way over his head now…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
They don't need to replace him.
He’s already been replaced with a normal offense instead of the high-risk/high-reward offense that the Cowboys felt compelled to have with T.O.
Romo is not a bust or boom guy. He is a developing guy. So, they lose a WR—big deal!
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just glad he's gone so we can move on
You can hear crickets in the locker room now which is a good thing. The definition of addition by subtraction.
What about the flipside of question no. 9?
How many of these T.O. fans will schitt or get off the pot? If this team’s doomed and their boy’s gone, surely they’d have no reason to stick around the blog.
No, they’d much rather stick around and pontificate over how big and stinky the deuce the Cowboys are going to lay next year in the wake of releasing T.O. and how ordinary (Witten) or awful (you-know-who) other plays will be without him as a crutch.
Class bunch.
+1
I want to see how certain people here react to this. We know whch side of the fence Vela is on. Let’s weed out the fan of T.O. as opposed to the fans of the Boys. Let’s count the I told you so’s next year and how things would have been different if T.O. was here
It's also
nice to see the media’s free lunch ticket and when-I-don’t-want-to-think default story gone. Now they have to actually work for a living
+1
so true
HATERADE: Two scoops of Eric Allen, add water and stir.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 5, 2009 6:42 AM CST up reply actions
Nice move
The guys was a cancer. Whether it was all his fault or not. Perception is reality, most of the time. He was not that great. I was not a fan of the Roy Williams signing, but we’ll now get a chance to see if I was wrong. I think this will breathe some confidence into the lungs of some good young receivers.
Why cant a person be a Cowboy fan and a T.O. fan?
I’m a Cowboy fan first and foremost. I’ve watched all my favorite players (Herschel, Emmitt, Irvin, Deion, Owens) walk out the door. I’ll always want the team to win above all else.
I’m also a Terrell Owens fan, and I hope he does well wherever he goes next. I just pray it’s not in the division.
What I am not a fan of is schoolgirls (Witten, Romo, Garrett, Un-named rat) who pull the fire alarm and then go hide around the corner to watch the stampede.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Mar 5, 2009 6:41 AM CST reply actions
Most can be both
some can’t. And it’s hard to come up with a blueprint for a team on how to handle T.O. correctly. Not one has been able to yet. You’re mad at Romo, Witten, Garrett, etc. for the way they handled him. Eagels fans who like TO were pi$$ed at Donovan for being a Mary and their coach for being a softie. 9ers fans were mad at their OC for not being able to keep T.O. happy.
With that being said there is only one common denominator to all of these issues. I cringe to think where he ends up and I will wonder during the season if he would have been able to help us in some way. But the devisiveness he brought to the locker room far exceeds the numbers he brought to us on the field
+1 GD. I don't like the move but T.O.'s now the enemy if he signs elsewhere...
Simple as that. Team first. It’s too bad though. With the way the season ended, the people that have left, our tepid approach to FA, and our lack of a 1st round pick, my excitement level for next year’s prospects are very, very LOW. Way to lower expectations Jerry.
by Boundforbeach on Mar 5, 2009 7:00 AM CST up reply actions
I agree with most of what you say GD but...
Why is it that everywhere TO goes its the other guy’s fault?
Maybe Witten or Romo cried out… but I hate the fact that there seems to be a double standard with some of the bit “TO supporters”.
If something is reported on Owens, its like “well it was an unnamed source”, but the same unnamed sources were reporting Witten was the rat and there isn’t anyone doubting that.
I just don’t see how anyone surround Owens can win in the situation.
If they go up to him and talk to him, he might just not talk to them anymore ALA Todd Haley.
OR ESPN picks up on it and makes it into a 30 minute special.
If they don’t say anything, then no one is being tough and you have guys like Tex questioning Romo’s assertiveness and/or toughenss.
Like the other post says, there is one common denominator in every situation.
Once again, I don’t hate TO, but at 35 years old, how hard is it to just go out and do your job?
Why do you need to go on interviews with Deion?
Why do you need to have press conferences talking about your lack of targets?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
C'mon GloryD
TO was the biggest “schoolgirl” of all. That’s a proven fact. It’s documented on video and audio.
Witten, Romo and Garrett are innocent until proven guilty. I don’t understand why you keep wanting to label them that way.
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+1 Amen to that Glory....
I’ve been a Cowboys fan longer than 90% of this site’s bloggers…So don’t question my loyalty..
I also became a TO fan, and watched him produce more reception yards, and TD’s than any Cowboy in my lifetime watching Dallas. and I got every right to vent over the foolish move of releasing him, and how it will greatly effect this teams offensive production as long as the Carrot topped asswipe is running the show here.
I’m also a huge Romo fan (have 3 jerseys) and Wiiten ( also have his jersey), but I’ll be the first to criticize either one of them if and when they fail, and that goes for all the players……I want this team to crap so badly that Garrett is gone before the seasons over (cuz i’ve already written off any hope of a playoff run with this clown handling the offense)…I’d rather have Jerry Jones calling plays here, since he wants to play HC so badly…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
Easy big guy
Step back from the ledge. You need to be working on our draft board.
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Timing...Jerry's parting F U to T.O.
Does it surprise anyone that Jerry released him just AFTER most of the teams with alot of cap room blew their coin on the big FA’s, and after most of the Tier I FA receivers have been signed to new teams? Not only will this hurt T.O. finding a new team, it will most likely contract the amount of dollars he can get in a new contract. That’s some hate right there. If this had happened two weeks ago, T.O. would be crowing about a new team and big money contract by now.
Also…on the issue of timing, was T.O. totally untradable? I mean, if we’ve been trying to shop Roy, who has no game left at all, then why wouldn’t we at least try to shop T.O. leading up to or during the draft, even for a late round pick. The cap consequences would be the same. Makes no sense.
Because if we are trying to trade TO then those teams know we will eventually drop him.
Im a TO fan by far so im not going to beat a dead horse of how this is a dumb move.
Mike and Mike was saying Pats will take a stab because BB can just say look we can win a superbowl without you so do you want to go along for the ride for this price take it or leave it. Oh and if you cause a scene ill cut your a##. Haha its possible
What the French?! Toast!
Well...it's widely speculated that Roy will be released...
but they are still trying to trade him. It was widely reported that Kitna would be released, but Detroit still managed to trade him for a starting CB. The best time to seek a trade would have been before FA started. But according to reports, Jerry did not come to the decision until last night. If true, it was stupid for Jerry not making a decision until now. Notwithstanding all that, I still think they could have explored a trade before the draft, unlikely as it may have been.
by Boundforbeach on Mar 5, 2009 7:21 AM CST up reply actions
I have a counterpoint
He did wait a while to cut TO to allow other teams, namely the Skins to use up all their cap room. This redues TO’s market. I think Snyder would have jumped at the opportunity to sign TO which would have been worst case scenario in my opinion. But they have no cap room left.
If they had cut TO at the beginning of FA I believe TO gets Deangelo Hall’s money and they stay with Springs at corner.
T.O. does not fit in with very many teams so your trade partners would probably be counted on one hand. Those teams would then know there would not be much competition for her services when cut. He had no trade value
There is no excuse for this team now not to win a playoff game.
They HAVE to win in the playoffs this year or everyone will question this move. ugh
What the French?! Toast!
Huh?
Why? They didn’t win one in three years with TO. Who said TO was the only reason this team played poorly?
Luke. Yes.
I agree. But, fairly or unfairly, alot of people blame TO for last years failings, a point I don’t happen to share. But going forward, T.O. is no longer an excuse.
by Boundforbeach on Mar 5, 2009 7:28 AM CST up reply actions
C'mon
there will be haters who will question this move no matter what. We could go undefeated and win the Super Bowl and the haters would argue, yeah but we would have won by bigger margins and had more fun with TO.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
next season is on garrett
he got what he wanted. no more excuses. since garrett got rid of TO, I am assuming all the dumbass penalities and lack of general discipline on offense will be cleaned up.
No,
TO got himself fired from his job. It also happens to be the third NFL team that Owens has been kicked out from. The common denominator here is Terrell Owens not Jason Garrett.
And this decision was made by the GM Jerry Jones.
idiot....got fired ?? or the spoiled little carrot topped asswipe from Princeton said the only way he stay's is if TO goes ??
yeah…that’s the way i remember it going down…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
"that’s the way i remember it going down"
Well that’s because you live in fantasy land where nothing is ever TO’s fault and it’s always someone else who’s to blame for all TO’s problems.
When TO voluntarily gives national mainstream media live interviews mid-season to guys like Deion Sanders, Mike Irvin and Stephen A. Smith and proceeds to criticize coaches or players for not using him the way he likes, it’s not his fault, it’s Jason Garrett’s, Tony Romo’s and Jason Witten’s.
The fact that these three guys have never had any trouble in the press until TO started attacking them is just coincidence.
The fact that TO has now been cut by three separate NFL teams for being a jackass is irrelevant.
It’s all Garrett’s fault.
The logic here is just simply disturbingly amazing.
Hold on...
Garrett’s Assistant Head Coach, right? In charge of the offense. He’s reported to have strongly lobbied for T.O.‘s departure. If we struggle moving the chains next year, then it is on him. What’s the cliche? Be careful what you wish for… Garrett got what he wanted. Now he’s got to make it work sans T.O.
by Boundforbeach on Mar 5, 2009 7:39 AM CST up reply actions
Jerry is the GM, not Garrett...
It wasn’t just Garrett. You think Jerry Jones would just straight up cut one of his biggest flashiest players, even though it hurts against the salary cap, just because Garrett doesn’t like him? There where obviously many people within that organization who voted for Owens to be given the boot.
"It’s reported that Garrett lobbied for TO’s departure." It’s also reported that TO thought Romo and Witten were involved in a conspiracy to deprive him catches. Think about how crazy that is. It’s also reported TO virtually picked a fight with our All-Pro TE for no rational reason and resents Romo for throwing to Witten more than him. It’s also reported that TO was having a negative influence on young players. If you believe one media story do you believe the others?
Dude...
I’m not a journalist and I don’t work at Valley Ranch. I do believe there is some truth to some of the media stories that come out. While some are more crazier than others, I recall there were MULTIPLE stories, sources, and reports that Jason Garrett wanted T.O. gone. In fact, I didn’t even think the point was in dispute.
Yes, Jerry is the GM. He ultimately made the decision. But he would be a fool not to take into account the wishes of the man who runs the entire offense in making that decision. Garrett wanted to get rid of T.O. He got his way. Garrett’s got to man-up now and make it work.
by Boundforbeach on Mar 5, 2009 8:11 AM CST up reply actions
BoundforBeach,
I’m not saying that Garrett wanting TO out was not true I’m just saying those stories came out at the end of a year that was filled with stories about TO publicly insulting Garrett and other offensive players on the team despite none of them doing that to him (actually the all said how great he was even when he was criticizing them). At the end of a season like that can you really blame Garrett for not being thrilled about working with TO again in 09?
I’m not trying to be rude mate but seriously, why does Garrett need to "man-up", and how does he do this?
Luke... I don't really disagree with you...
I was being cliche wtih the “man-up” comment. Garrett’s offense imploded last year. He apparently felt T.O. was a big part of the problem, and that the offense will perform better without him. He (and perhaps others) made their thoughts known to Jerry and we have just lost a big playmaker. I’m simply saying that Garrett got one of the big changes he lobbied for. Given that, I expect him to make the offense better next year. That’s all. If the offense in ‘09 produces anywhere near the offense in ’07, then I’ll be happy, shut-up and gladly eat my crow.
by Boundforbeach on Mar 5, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah,
Were pretty much on the same page. It wouldn’t have been just Garrett though, there was obviously many people within the organisation who felt the same. But yeah, with or without TO Garrett needed to bounce back with a better offense next year. But not necessarily more points, just better execution, and I think the removal of TO might help that.
+1000000 on the money Bound....Put up or shut up for the carrot topped asswipe.
This season will determine his fate….There will be no more GM’s knocking on his door if the offense fails this season…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Mar 5, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
I was referring to the discipline comment above
Discipline of a team is on the HC, not any assistant. I agree with your point, it’s on JG and hopefully we see more ’07 offense instead of ’08
Good riddance
Owens’ selfishness did him in. He played for his own personal glory and the highlight reel, not for the team.
Cowboys are a better team without TO, all his gaudy stats notwithstanding.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
Skins fan here
7. Where will T.O. land? I’m going to guess Dan Snyder is hyperventilating right now, looking for ways to fit The Player under his ever-expanding salary cap.
ZERO percent chance
my guess is
cause they have santana moss + randle el + 2 young guys who they want to develop.
I think Philly and the Giants are better fits than the redskins, to be honest.
Exactly right...
The 2 WRs we drafted (Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly) are tall, speedy WRs that are suppose to be what TO does, minus the locker room shenanigans. They’ve been working hard this off-season after their embarrassing showings last year, so we’re going to give them a real shot this year….not to mention 1 million Skins fans will torch Fedex Field if we bring in that cancer.
Are counting the 64 million
you gave to two players on defense before cutting Taylor. Cutting Taylor is get to get you back under the cap
Great insight Bigham
Would be great if we could trade Wade Phillips for Belechicky, or better yet, throw Jerry Jones on the garbage heap.
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Mar 5, 2009 8:10 AM CST reply actions
Wow. Really cutting ties...
T.O.; RW1; Canty; Tank; Pacman; Henry; Z. Thomas; Burnett (maybe). Jerry’s really made some changes to the team.
by Boundforbeach on Mar 5, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
and I was complaing yesterday....
that this team is in denial that there were problems last year. Boy was I wrong-lol.
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