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Cowboys cut safety Roy Williams

The Dallas Cowboys are in a cutting mood. Jerry Jones pulled the trigger on Terrell Owens last night and now he's done the same for safety Roy Williams.

After attempts to trade the five-time Pro Bowl safety failed, the Cowboys decided to release Williams, their No. 1 draft pick in 2002.

By cutting Williams, the Cowboys save roughly $2 million in salary-cap space in 2009 and close the book on a player who was once the face of the franchise.

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Excuse, my ignorance....

So with the Roy cut and TO does that mean that we are now down to 7mil instead of the 9 mil cap hit?

by texstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:23 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sort of

I think cutting TO just cost us like an additional 6-700k against the cap than if we had kept him. So cutting Roy will save us roughly 2mil, so now we are saving about $1.5mil compared to the same time yesterday.

"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber

by DC_fan on Mar 5, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I'm thinking....

they were saying on Sirius this morning, this cap hit thing is really confusing. Players don’t really get that money but it still goes against the cap. If my fuzzy math is correct, I think it’s a 7mil cap hit

by texstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

-1

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Mar 5, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

-100000 for TO +1000 for bye bye thong

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Mar 5, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I had no idea when I woke up this morning

it would be such a wonderful day!!!

He absolutely had to go and I beleive TO will be an addition by subtravtion.

Think Texas Rangers 2006? when they traded A-Roid and damn near made the playoffs with a bunch of kids and no name players

by WALKERMAN on Mar 5, 2009 9:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Because that's what we want the Cowboys to do...

To damn near make the playoffs with a bunch of kids and no name players…

by cstorm15 on Mar 5, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok wiseguy

How about when NY Gints got rid of Shockey and Eli went on to win the Super Bowl?!

My point being addition by subtraction

by WALKERMAN on Mar 5, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He was hurt but I do not think he was rehabbing with the team. He defintely never got on the field again

My point being Shockey had overshadowed Eli and made him gun shy.

I think TO took some of Romo’s improvisation skills out of the mix last year because of all the whining about touches.

I think this move lets Romo be the Jedi we all know and love!

by WALKERMAN on Mar 5, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Romo...

Took the improvisation out himself. He practiced so HARD in trying to be Tom Brady, that he failed in everything else.

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Mar 5, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and i always remember

when romo was “improving” playing backyard football wasnt it always TO that was right there with him.. improving………………. is that the right spelling it looks like improve-ing

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Mar 5, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thats for walkerman

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on Mar 5, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Shockey is a spare....

What did the Giants win with thise #’s? What did he do with the Saints?

Screw stats I want wins so if thats being a Hater then I guess thats what I am……

by WALKERMAN on Mar 5, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Inevitable,

Pacman,

Tank,

TO,

Roy Williams,

All the whiners and crazies are going.

Greg Ellis must be peeing his pants.

by Luke. on Mar 5, 2009 9:27 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

so funny...

so but so true!!!

by rocklaw on Mar 5, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When did Tank ever bitch or moan?

Have the Cowboys taken care of all the sources in the locker room who spilled things to the media?

by 082288 on Mar 5, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I liked Tank.. I guess it was a job performance thing…

by Mojoness on Mar 5, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No your right I did not

I did however hear Romo throw his OC under the bus.

by 082288 on Mar 5, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And Romo took a nice step backwords as well

As the QB Romo can come to the line and check off into any play he wants.

I agree Garrett made some bad choices, but the truth is the Cowboys O did not exicute well last year.

by 082288 on Mar 5, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

all comes down to Oline

i hope we get healthy on the oline, and i hope we pick up some draftees to push our starters for time

by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 5, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You've hit the nail on the head, Fan

Think of what our line mid-90’s did with Emmitt…now we have marion, felix, and tashard? If we can stay healthy and draft gamers, we can seriously pound the rock and take some of the weight of Romo’s shoulders.

What? Run the ball, stop the run? No way…

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on Mar 5, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

082288

great screen name

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Mar 5, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Seanrude .... I get it now.

I’d always thought it was a birth date, but now it’s SO obvious once you point it out.

by GalTex on Mar 5, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I probably would not have noticed it either except I do similar things for passwords

I use players from the 70s though, and not the obvious ones

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Mar 5, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Totally disagree...

You never say anthing publically about your coach. I don’t care who or what you are.

by texstar on Mar 5, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not okay for anybody...

Never, ever say anything outside those four walls. I don’t care if it’s TO,Witten,Romo,Ware. You keep your dang mouth shut.

by texstar on Mar 5, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and thats what TO tried to do

when had that closed door meeting with JG but yet he was wrong to do that too… i just dont get it

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Mar 5, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There's about 160 WR's who are not getting cut today.

The one who is getting cut acted like a big mouth whiny fool who threw coaches and teammates under the bus in the press for most of the season.

What’s not to get!?

by Luke. on Mar 5, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

most of the season?

really i must of missed all those press conferences where he did that. No you guys are contradicting yourselves. Its ok for romo to call out JG but not TO

BOLOGNA!

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Mar 5, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I"m saying that nobody calls anybody out?

I don’t know what anybody else thinks but I’m from the school of keep your mouth shut. I don’t care if it’s Romo or the King of Methusla. Keep your dang mouth shut publicly.

by texstar on Mar 5, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Methusla?

what?

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 5, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I probably have it spelled wrong-lol

How about “the king of England”. In other words, it doesn’t matter who or how important you think you are, keep everything behind closed doors.

by texstar on Mar 5, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

methuselah is the name of a person

and TO did keep it behind closed doors – until it was leaked by somebody that wasn’t him

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 5, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, I'm not pro-Romo or pro-TO.....

I’m just saying that if this team wants to get anywhere and build a championship team, they can’t be throwing anybody under the bus even if the plays suck etc. I’m not arguing for/against Romo or TO. It’s just a fact, that to have real team chemistry you can’t say anything publicly about coaches,teammates or heck I’ll throw in the ballboy. Heck, none of us liked JG’s offense but you don’t go public with it.

by texstar on Mar 5, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not 'you guys', I'm just one guy,

And I never said it was ok for Romo to question Garrett at the podium. Never. It was dumb. But let’s put it in perspective. Romo said one sentence, he never even used Garrett’s name, he could have been taking about other things but it did sound like a criticism of the scheme. Dumb.

Now compare to TO’s repeated whining from week 3 onwards about Garrett, then Witten, then Romo. There’s no honest comparison between Tony Romo and Terrell Owens when it comes to this type of thing.

TO has been axed by three different NFL teams for character reasons and every time it was not his fault?

by Luke. on Mar 5, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

find me the clip where owens specifically called out romo and witten by name

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 5, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

or garrett

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 5, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Terrell owens = Victim.

Calling his QB Garcia gay and getting suspended by Marriucci and then axed from the 49ers: Not Owens fault, he’s the victim.

Criticizing his QB again, and arguing with both Brad Childress and Andy Reid until he’s sacked, again: Not Owens fault, he’s the victim.

Arguing with Todd Haley in Dallas. Not Owens fault.

Complaining to the press that Jason Garrett’s scheme is the reason for his average year, Not Owens fault.

Getting cut by the Cowboys because he’s causing locker room drama for his coaches and QB in his third straight team, not his fault, he’s a scapegoat.

How do all the other 150+ WR’s in this league have virtually no problem with the sort of despicable treatment that WR’s obviously routinely get?

by Luke. on Mar 5, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont care what happened before

but hes getting an unfair rap now. He was cut for all the wrong reasons

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Mar 5, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You don't know that.

Jerry and Stephen are thinking about the future. T.O. is the past.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Please...

Explain to me why you think he was cut?

by Luke. on Mar 5, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

because he was a "cancer" and "distraction"

he was more quite this year than last but last year everything was cool right? Hes the reason the team did so bad this year tho right?

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Mar 5, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sarcasm,

Does that mean you can’t think of any reasons?

by Luke. on Mar 5, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I had a girlfriend once who was always the victim.

Key word is “had”.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

the MSM got to you to(joking) but still they fabricated these stories and everybody just accepts them as fact

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Mar 5, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Luke

I could not figure out how to post it on the comments window.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 5, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

MSN was already talking about all the controversial

pics that this football-personnel move has caused.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think its pretty funny

but I don’t think TO’s ever actually been putting himself up on a cross, except when claiming the media is out to get him

by AustonianAggie on Mar 5, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!!!!!!!!!

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

by kameleon_o on Mar 5, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

History...

TO has destroyed teams with his behavior…

There is nothing to suggest TO will quit mouthing off. Like I said… If there is a single human being in sports that shouldn’t make comments about his team it is TO. And he couldn’t help himself, he had to be the primodonna…

You could probably talk to Tony if you had an issue with his actions and work things out.

by Mojoness on Mar 5, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The coaches run the team

not the players. And I though Garrett initiated that meeting.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly!

If anyone should shut up its TO… But he couldn’t..

by Mojoness on Mar 5, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It was all that stupid interview with Deion.

Just had to go there at a pivotal time of the year.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He proclaimed during the game

on the sidelines he was a free agent so it didn’t matter. Players had to hold him back from going after someone.

by cow_fanatic on Mar 5, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's probably typing it up right now

I’d say with the moves that have been made or not made in the last seven days, we have:
1. filled ILB need for next year
2. filled backup QB need
———————
1. created a depth need at CB
2. created a depth/starter need at WR
3. maintained a depth need at DT/DE with the loss of Canty
4. Must fill a need at SS, should be #1 priority

by cow_fanatic on Mar 5, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Maybe someday down the line, we’ll look back and say, “Boy, 5th March 2008 is really the day the Dallas Cowboys turned it around and returned to claim their birthright — the Superbowl.”

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Mar 5, 2009 9:34 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

2009 perhaps?

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on Mar 5, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 5, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The circle is complete

if the good lord saw fit to take me now, I could pass knowing that all is well in Cowboys land.

by quincyyyyy on Mar 5, 2009 9:38 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Cowboy78,

That is hilarious man, classic.

by Luke. on Mar 5, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know it may rub some people the wrong way but in his mind TO must see himself this way

he is too narcisitic not to; I just could not help but put the link up.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 5, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't go there.

Although it’s good for the team to go in this direction, it is still a sad day for Terrell. He really liked playing in Big D.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The better news is he wont be in the NFC East....

Giants already came out and said they are not interested…..Philly…..yeah right and….

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Redskins have issued an adamant "no thanks" regarding the possibility of signing Owens.

(We’ve separately heard that agent Drew Rosenhaus had already placed a call to the team about T.O.)

Mort raises a good point about the Redskins’ position — they weren’t interested three years ago, when Owens was three years younger.

by Boyzfan94 on Mar 5, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Our D always played well against him anyways.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

huh

 Don’t go there.

Although it’s good for the team to go in this direction, it is still a sad day for Terrell. He really liked playing in Big D.

if he was n`t complaining all the time he would still be here and be a positive influence, when someone with his talent merits being cut it`s beyond comprehension and he has no one to bbut himself.

by ziggy19 on Mar 5, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that the complaining is detrimental

I just didn’t want to see that pic of him crying!

Believe me, I’m one of the happier bloggers about this quick change of direction for the team. It’s a good thing.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

by kameleon_o on Mar 5, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry....

The Thong has been cut!
And the view is nice…

by Mojoness on Mar 5, 2009 9:48 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Jerry on Ray.....

Not sure if anyone saw this quote from Jerry, but this was the very same reason I said Ray was not a good fit here…..

“You’ve got to look at that in the context of our overall team,” Jones said. “We have not internally really evaluated Ray from the standpoint of what we would have to do if we had Ray on the team. Ray plays exactly the same position in everything that Bradie James does. Now, is that where you want to allocate your dollars, or allocate your emphasis?”

by Boyzfan94 on Mar 5, 2009 9:52 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I did not watc many ravens games but

sure looked like Ray Ray has lost a step or two

by 082288 on Mar 5, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry made 3 very nice decisions...

1- Not signing Ray Lewis

2-Cutting TO

3-Cutting the THONG……

Jerry can do no wrong in my eyes right now…..This almost makes me forgive him for rushing to sign Newman, Barber and Hamlin…

by Boyzfan94 on Mar 5, 2009 9:56 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

+1

But at the time we needed those guys, Newman in particular…

Every successful team overpays SOMEBODY…

by Mojoness on Mar 5, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Guys if you can you will need to check out today's lunch break because Darren Woodson

will be a guest host and it’s gonna be a good session because the TO topic will be front and center.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 5, 2009 9:56 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

seems like it would have just been easier to find a better OC

that can make an offense with TO and RW work

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 5, 2009 9:58 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

?

It wasn’t a production issue it was a chemistry issue…

by Mojoness on Mar 5, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

everybody's a chemist all of a sudden

the giants had chemistry issues – and then they won the super bowl.

and then the giants started losing – and they had chemistry issues

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 5, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Remember though,

when Shockey was the “supposed” problem he got hurt. Once he went down, he wasn’t around the team much. Remember in the Super Bowl, they showed TV shots of him liquering it up in a box suite. My thoughts on Plaxico are different though. I think it was more a question that they didn’t have anybody to stretch the field once Plax went down. Defenses feared him. That’s what scares me about the TO thing. Who are the defenses gonna be afraid of now? It has to be Roy.

by texstar on Mar 5, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't seen two of TO biggest supporters yet....Terry or Numba1....hmmm.....

Like I said…..I hope some of these guys stocked up on the Prozack because it was going to happen..

by Boyzfan94 on Mar 5, 2009 10:04 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Terry is a cowboys homer

i don’t think he’s hurting

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 5, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

More like Romo Homer

as long as he’s on the team, Terry can be taken off suicide watch.

by bryangene on Mar 5, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he was a cowboys homer before romo

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 5, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

seriously, I think I scared the dog…

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on Mar 5, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Terry seemed to want Owens gone, if I'm not mistaken.

Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry - ESPN

by Nelson... on Mar 5, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How is Jerrah doing this and not getting all of the face time that he loves so much?

What did Stephen do with Jerrah? Has anybody seen Jerrah in the last day or so?

by DaBoys on Mar 5, 2009 10:04 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

relax

it’s been hours (and those hours were sleeping hours).

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 5, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

TORY HOLT

wants out of St. Louis. It’s likely he’ll get cut before march 17th as he’s due a 1.7 million dollar roster bonus. Holt is 32 years old, would be a positive influence and a leader on a team. Plus he can fill the #1 receiver spot, and let roy williams be where he belongs at the #2 spot.

by WhiteMenCanDance on Mar 5, 2009 10:06 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

torry holt

i would be really happy with Holt. it’s actually kind of nice because neither RW nor Holt will be the a real #1 receiver. They are just different. Their production could just be defense dependent.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 5, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares?

What’s the point if the team is trying to get younger? Holt’s just another bandaid guy that would further diminish the development of any players on the roster. All these WRs are in their 5th year or less.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont

think these moves are trying to make the team younger …. I think it’s getting rid of bad locker room guys or guys who have lost a step. Holt comes from Martz’s system, which uses the same terminology as Garrett’s. I’m not a huge Crayton guy, but I do like Austin. I think if Holt gets released, if Jerry really wans to win next year, and the Boys sign him to a 2 year deal, it’s a good deal. Plus, you add another good locker room guy.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by what_the_crap on Mar 5, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True

But then why does Torry want out of St. Louis? Isn’t that affecting the locker room there?

Miami and Atlanta and Baltimore and Arizona all proved this past year that sucky teams can make a quick turnaround, especially with a new and improved coaching staff.

I’d rather develop team chemistry with impressionable young players rather than guys who are disgruntled with their past organizations.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dont need another old WR.....

I don’t see any trades happening as far as WR goes…..I think were going to draft a WR, otherwise roll with what we have.

by Boyzfan94 on Mar 5, 2009 10:09 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

We don’t need big names, we need to coach our players up, draft well, and play as a team. How often does Pittsburgh go out and sign players?

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on Mar 5, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to see Roy go...

So many fond memories of seeing him chase Santana Moss.

by KevinE on Mar 5, 2009 10:09 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

LOL

"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach

by dave33 on Mar 5, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Take the T.O. out of Thong and you have hng

OK, nevermind that nonsense-

 Some time back, Raf put up a post about T.O.s numbers and how they indicated a decline in production (save for one bounce year) and that at 36, he is close to falling off a cliff soon. If you think in terms of the balance between what this years production might have been vs long term team value maybe it was time to make the break. We’ll see what happens this year. I like T.O. and his passion, I wish him the best.

As far as the Thong, he was a liability. Every OC in the league knew that he was a weak link and attacked it relentlessly. I think he’s a good guy, but his one dimensional play has been exposed. We are better off without having Roy in the D backfield.

"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams

by Jim Vance on Mar 5, 2009 10:11 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

However

he would be a good fit at safety for the Iggles

by cow_fanatic on Mar 5, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

YES, I'm all for it!

"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams

by Jim Vance on Mar 5, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Doubtful didn't they just sign that CC guy from the texans?

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 5, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares

Iggles sing Ex-Roy I and let Witten get his stats for a few years

by cow_fanatic on Mar 5, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The timing though...

It is possible we will overpay for Bullets seeing as he is a free agent and we have few options…

Why didn’t jerr wait until Davis had tested the market and signed a contract with the Cowboys before cutting Thong?

by Mojoness on Mar 5, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No more

Roy I and Roy II, nice

by cow_fanatic on Mar 5, 2009 10:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

March 5, 2009

the day the Cowboys defense stopped playing 10 on 11 defense.

by Rafael Vela on Mar 5, 2009 10:33 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

+100000000000000

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 5, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Ding dong the witch is dead

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 5, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know, right?

Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry - ESPN

by Nelson... on Mar 5, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry is Michael Corleone...he's wacking everybody!

Great job, Jerry!

Better watch your back Greg Ellis.

If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.

by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Do you think they will Do Ellis ala Moe Green?

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 5, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, while being treated on the training table

"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach

by dave33 on Mar 5, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Greg, Try on these eyeglasses while you get a rubdown

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 5, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis would be Moe Green, all that whinning.

“He was banging cocktail waitress’s two at a time”

If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.

by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:41 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

"You straightened my brother out?"

"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach

by dave33 on Mar 5, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My wish is the Eagles get Roy and the Redskins get T.O.

If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.

by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

A side note, was this done before TO reality show was finished taping? If not I wonder

if it will be in the final cut?

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 5, 2009 10:43 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think this will increase the drama, he will be in full emotional display, this is the stuff that Reality

TV lives for; I do not think it gets cancelled.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 5, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Get your popcorn ready...

As the Cowboys go 5-11, Marion Barber gets hurt half way thru the season because we got to run him 40 times a game, because our WR can’t get off the Line of scrimmage. Witten will have 120 catches with 7 TD’s…. but you know what the new headline with be… Roy Williams wants out of Dallas because Witten an Romo are drawing up plays behind his back.

Heck you guys are gonna need someone else to blame for why the Cowboys will suck @#$# next season why not blame the poor man’s version of T.O?

But I perfer to look at the bright side… At least the T.O. haters will be happy though and thats all that matters… Can you say 1st overall pick for 2010… I can’t Wait!! GO COWBOYS!!!

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 10:43 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wrongo

Clearly you have no idea what you’re talking about. The Cowboys have completely improved themselves today. I’m predicting at least 10 wins and a conference championship game. Character and chemistry matter.

by Big50 on Mar 5, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol....

so tell me… in 2007 we had character and chemistry… but all of a sudden like a pair of your favorite socks we lost it?… but ALL OF A SUDDEN we sacrifice Owens to the Media gods and we now have chemistry and character again??? wow… can santa bring me a shiny red fire truck too?

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No...

we did not have it, and it got worse. how do we crumble against a team that we had beat easily twice before? bad chemistry shows up when you are going thru tough times, not during a difficult playoff game or when your losing in the regular season. why did we crumble in Dec 07?

by Big50 on Mar 5, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

should have said bad chemistry does not show when your winning against bad teams….

by Big50 on Mar 5, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont think

a shootout is winning easily

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Mar 5, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!!

Not even.

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Mar 5, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh please,

Dallas was 9-7 the year before T.O. got here and 9-7 two of the years he played.

The thought that he’s worth 4 wins all by himself is insane.

by Rafael Vela on Mar 5, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Raf...

I tend not to disagrees with you because I value and respect your opinion immensely… however I have to here… I don’t see this thing getting better… i see it getting worse… because so far… what has been down to sure up the real problems of last season???

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

this is like a lunge forward. Keeping players like these guys around would have just continued the momentum of BS that bugs so many of us, and evidently bugs the organization as well.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see it having much effect at all, to be honest

T.O. was declining.

This team will rise and fall on exectution. The only major loss was Canty, IMO, and Dallas was never
going to pay him Giants money. Nor should they. It’s too much.

It’s on the draft now. They need an OL and strength up the middle on D.

by Rafael Vela on Mar 5, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree,

the things that the Cowboys needed yesterday, are the same things they need today. Can they get it in the Draft? I don’t know, but it wasn’t getting done with what they had.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Mar 5, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What is your list

of “real” problems and where is team unity and cohesiveness on your list of priorities? Addition by subtraction does not appear to be a problem but we got a lot better today in the locker room, not on the field

by cow_fanatic on Mar 5, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cowboys Shopping list.

LG,
LT * possibly
WR – of the Number variety… the kind that will draw a double team….. RW barely can get away from 1 CB

NT
WS ILB
SS

*HALF TIME ADJUSTMENTS

  • Strength and Condition coach that can some how motivate players to play past November

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The perception

there was no chemistry problems is one of stubborness. I agree with your list BTW. But something had to be done about this team not being a “team”. There has not been a single NFL team that has been able to devise a blueprint for handling T.O. which includes us. It’s unfortunate but has been proven three times

by cow_fanatic on Mar 5, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear you...

but so far… the only negative source of what T.O was doing in the locker room was an unnammed source. All the named sources, Crayton, Newman, Ware, Hurd, James, Davis, Johnson (tank). RW II. Everyone who was man enough to get on record defended all the T.O did as a teammate and a player.

The year before last every one was chuckling about him crying over Romo… now he’s this cancer? (again) What changed? what happened?

Was it him not getting the ball? or was it the offense as a whole just not executing… The OL not blocking, Romo not hitting open WR’s. Garrett not adjusting at halftime to take advantage of what the defense was showing.

It seemed like it always took us a 2 and a half QTR’s to figure out what was going almost every game…and most games and in 5 of those games it was too late.

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not convince Roy will be a #1 but.......

the dude was playing with a foot injury last year and wasn’t running at full speed.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 5, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LG....negative...

Kosier and Holland have that locked down

NT, DE, safety are the main concerns..

by Boyzfan94 on Mar 5, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I respectfully disagree… all the reason why everyone wanted Kosier gone in 2007 was still there in 2008… the only thing was that when he got hurt we had no clear cut back up for him and his avg play was deemed extra ordinary.

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you should take it to Raf the same way you would take it regular posters

minus all the deference.

"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach

by dave33 on Mar 5, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha who are you talking too?

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 5, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was talking to unneccessary roughness

about his apparent fear of saying something not in conformity to Raf.

"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach

by dave33 on Mar 5, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

AB03

Remember the guys who will start saying that next season will be folded?

Example A- See above.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 5, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They are getting better and younger quickly.

Sometimes you just need to cleanse your body to rid yourself of toxins and impurities.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Is That Drunk...

Romo next? It seems like he prefers to get drunk and fat with his girlfriend while players like Owens train and prepare themselves for upcoming seasons.

~Texas Massacre 08~

by TheHeat on Mar 5, 2009 10:44 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I gotta be honest...

I’m a little worried, especially seeing how slow he ran from the paparazzi.

by jsams on Mar 5, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Please...

You’re going to come on and talk about what someone does when they are in the offseason and be a Dallas Cowboy fan?

Irvin was snorting coke and boinking 5 hookers at a time after practice.

Romo has a few beers at night and he doesn’t train for the season.

Give me a break.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 5, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

TO is the one shooting a reality show right now during the offseason, he may not be having some drinks

but he is certainly not making football his top priority right now during the offseason. I bring this up in th context of the offseason.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Mar 5, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good. 5-11 would be just fine at least we'll lose wit dignity.

If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.

by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:45 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

ask the...

Lions where they put there dignity this past season….

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Raf...

Don’t bother, you can’t win.

People think whatever they want to think.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 5, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

because....

I’m not saying he is responsible.. I’m saying … an you know as well as I that the production that we get out of our WR Corp is directly impacted on if Owens is on the field or not… its not that HE wins games… its that if a safety is lined up and has cover 2 responsiblity with owns outside and austin inside… if Owens does a skinny post and austin does a corner… who would you bite on??

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That double team thing is overrated.

With his skills diminishing, they wouldn’t be paying as much attention. He can be handled at the line.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

S.F. thought that too… ask Nate Clements

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

SF

refused to bump TO off the line. Everyone thought they were crzy at the time for playing that way

Washington started pressing him him relentlessly in week 4. Other teams continued to use that strategy

In the next 12 weeks, TO had 213 yards against SF and and 600 against the remaining 11 teams (average of about 55 a game ). Not including the games Romo sat, TO had 213 yards against sf and 500 in the 8 remaining games….an average of about 62 a game.

by foyesboys on Mar 5, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

are you ...

forgetting the 3 Romoless games?

Besides 2008 was an execution problem… not a T.O problem. We couldn’t run or pass block. an maybe it was just me but from week 1 Romo never looked like he had it together.

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Then why did the lack of production drop severely when Romo was out?

Seems to me that the rest of the stars could’ve picked up their game to balance out the weakness at backup QB.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

San Francisco?

You can’t use one of Dallas’ best offensive games as a unit to defend this move. That was not a formidable opponent and Nate was left on an island.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Haynesworth just got $100 mill because he draws double teams.

Occupying 2 players on either side of the ball is a definite advantage in any sport.

Game Recognize Game

by pretty ricky on Mar 5, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And he's also in the prime of his career.

Huge difference.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

dudes

we still have romo, barber, felix, choice, roy, austin, crayton and witten.

we’ll be fine.

no more circus show either.

by jsams on Mar 5, 2009 10:46 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I love our team now!

If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.

by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You forgot..

Martellus Bennett. Hopefully he sees the field more often.

by NerdVernacular on Mar 5, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How'd I forget my boy Marty B?!

By far the coolest personality on the team.

by jsams on Mar 5, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Bennett is the fun part of the circus.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sick of the drama, T.O., Pacman and Tank.

Asta!

If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.

by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:46 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Give it back

Lance Moore will cost Dallas a 2nd round pick.

So you’re going to spend Dallas first two picks on WRs? No thank you.

by Rafael Vela on Mar 5, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you serious?

So if you don’t draft a WR with the second round pick, you are just picking defense?

Did you watch Cory Proctor last year?

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 5, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just joking.

Don’t we still have Montrae Holland though? I’m more concerned with the lack of depth on defense, especially safety.

by jsams on Mar 5, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Aaaah

Ok, sorry didn’t see the sarcasm button, haha.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 5, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, let's not forget...

We still have Mike Irvin’s reality show to find a replacement :)

by jsams on Mar 5, 2009 10:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah!

Knowing Irvin, he’ll find a real talent.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, it worked for American Idol right?

Let’s just hope we don’t get the next Clay Aiken.

by jsams on Mar 5, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Look

If Roy Williams is half the WR that he says he is, we’ll be fine. We loose the headache of “having” to get TO the ball. Roy Williams was whining way to much and now he’s gone. I like this, if you bitch and moan, you’re gone. Let’s get on with playing football, getting better and getting a championship.

by Big50 on Mar 5, 2009 10:50 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gag Order

Can someone fill me in on what is going on with ESPN Radio

I heard that Newman was on their radio show talking about the Fist fight T.O. and Witten had at the end of last season.

by Prime-Time on Mar 5, 2009 10:58 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Make it stop!

I can’t wait till all the drama is officially over.

by jsams on Mar 5, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

whoa

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Witten bigger

TO crazier

Crazy beats big 9/10.

(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 5, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well I wonder if ....

we will ever learn who those sources were now that T.O. is gone…

I hope for all of you who believe that T.O was the problem that we win a playoff game next year… I just don’t see… and it really has less to do with T.O. being gone… then it has to do with this idea that THIS will be the catalyst that gets everything going. I don’t see it.. not if we don’t fix what’s the real problem.

Semper Fi.

by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:11 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

About Time

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Mar 5, 2009 11:12 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm ...
Without saying anymore…

Please don’t hold back on my account. ;^)

by GalTex on Mar 5, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet!

That boy can bring home the bacon and fry it in the pan!

Gonna be great to see him on the field more often.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Darren Woodson?

I would have thought that Scandrick is too small, but Woodson definitely knows more than I do about playing safety.

by NICK L on Mar 5, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a hankerin...

T.O. is gonna go crazy ex-girlfriend on us and spill the beans about absolutely every little thing that took place with the team. Of course we’ll have to take it with a grain of salt, because he no doubt will do it to hurt us, but I think the “drama” has yet to come…

by AikmanNailedMySis on Mar 5, 2009 11:58 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

That would be awesome.

I’ll get the bowl if you start the microwave.

George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be feeding the hand that bites you

ESPN and Ed Werder’s ratings go through the roof when they can talk about TO. If Ed Werder was never born and ESPN had any respect for its vocation, TO would still have a job in Dallas.

I’m sure TO is mad at the Cowboys, but he’s got to be pretty angry with the media, as well.

by NICK L on Mar 5, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Roy, several of your hits are among my very favorite Cowboy memories

… but, your time had come and gone… something about lack of work ethic combined with questionable coverage skills

Something tells me Jerry’s wallet is hurting … holding cash now is not a bad idea… the way this economy is going, next year’s salaries will be a bargain in relation to what is getting spent right now.

Duane Thomas, Calvin Hill, Dorsett, Herschell, Emmitt ... and now MBIII, Felix, AND Choice!

by DalaiLuke on Mar 5, 2009 11:59 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Analogy

Stop bunching all three TO stops together to justify cutting TO now. Even if TO deserved to be cut in Philly and Frisco, this fails to establish that he’s done anything as a Cowboy. (Remember Keyshawn? Went from “Cancer” to model player). When TO got here, we knew about his previous stints and took him anyway. As such, our decision to keep him or cut him should not be influenced by his past actions. I’m from Philadelphia and think that the Eagles probably should have just paid him, but I’ll concede that his divorce with the Eagles was entirely his fault. However, Jerry didn’t think that past was relevant. Judge TO on his behavior as a Cowboy. If you still believe he should be cut, fine. That’s a different argument and I’m not sure which side I’m on yet. I like TO, but don’t know the details. If TO was cut because he was hurting the Cowboys, I like the move; but if he was cut because of the perception that he’s hurting the Cowboys (largely formed by the media and TO’s past) then I think it was a mistake.

Consider a guy who stole 2 cars early on in life. He’s now lawfully employed and knows that if he gets caught again, the judge won’t be happy. He doesn’t steal cars anymore and he’s great at his job. His boss is aware of his past, but trusted him enough to give him a job.

During the crime season, the police have enough work to do and can make a living, but during the no-crime season, the police worry that they’re not going to make any money (assume they get paid on "merit").

As a result, there are some overzealous police officers, who not only protect and serve, but try to entrap former criminals in crime. They throw car keys at him, open car doors and walk away and even bring him to dealerships at night and unlock the front doors.

Unfortunately for our man, a car is stolen (‘Boys miss the Playoffs) and he’s the prime suspect. The whole town thinks he’s guilty (On an ESPN poll, 49 states said Cowboys should cut TO, including Texas…how much do these voters know?) and is pressuring the prosecutor to bring charges (economic pressure…remember that Football really is just a business).

The law doesn’t allow us to convict someone on the basis of past behavior, nor does it allow us to convict a victim of entrapment, why should our calculus here be any different? If TO was a good player and teammate in Dallas (which is certainly in dispute) he should still be a Cowboy.

I guess I just don’t know if TO really stole the car…And I think that’s the sentiment a lot of us share. We feel like he got cut because everyone thinks he’s a cancer, not because he is one.

As yourself this: Is there anything TO could have done to really improve his image or is the world just too damn unforgiving?

PS-I was really planning on getting a lot of work done today…Jerry just made that impossible!

by NICK L on Mar 5, 2009 1:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with much of this notion

However, you HAVE TO look at his behavior in Philly and SF. I think people within the organization were seeing his behavior develop into something that would’ve become SF-ish. They wanted to nip it in the bud before that flourished.

by AikmanNailedMySis on Mar 5, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What a victim of society...

If you want to avoid all the other stuff, why don’t we just say this… he couldn’t beat press coverage and is a 36 year old that relies more on physical skills then route running.

I was neither for or against the firing, but I don’t think it’s implausible why.

Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......

by AirforceBat on Mar 5, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Could this have been a football decision? Maybe the Cowboys saw decline in his skills and felt the time to cut the cord was now

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Mar 5, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I kind of agree with all of you

I think that if the coaching staff really expected a bad situation with TO, he should be gone.

I think it could be a football decision, but only if the team REALLY like Miles Austin. Because it costs more to cut him than keep him and only Roy could arguably be a better player at this point (I think TO at 36 might still be the better player, but who really knows). So basically, the only reason I can see this being a football decision is if the team thinks TO is stopping Austin’s development or taking away from Roy or Witten’s production. I expect a rookie WR pretty early, but it’s obviously not going to be anyone of TO’s caliber.

It’s clear that To will not be a back up, so it’s certainly plausible.

My point is just that I hope he wasn’t cut the reason I laid out. I’m not saying that he was cut for that reason.

by NICK L on Mar 5, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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