Cowboys cut safety Roy Williams
The Dallas Cowboys are in a cutting mood. Jerry Jones pulled the trigger on Terrell Owens last night and now he's done the same for safety Roy Williams.
After attempts to trade the five-time Pro Bowl safety failed, the Cowboys decided to release Williams, their No. 1 draft pick in 2002.
By cutting Williams, the Cowboys save roughly $2 million in salary-cap space in 2009 and close the book on a player who was once the face of the franchise.
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Excuse, my ignorance....
So with the Roy cut and TO does that mean that we are now down to 7mil instead of the 9 mil cap hit?
Sort of
I think cutting TO just cost us like an additional 6-700k against the cap than if we had kept him. So cutting Roy will save us roughly 2mil, so now we are saving about $1.5mil compared to the same time yesterday.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
That's what I'm thinking....
they were saying on Sirius this morning, this cap hit thing is really confusing. Players don’t really get that money but it still goes against the cap. If my fuzzy math is correct, I think it’s a 7mil cap hit
Look at it this way guys.....we are nearly 18 mil under the cap now.....
What a great day!!!!…..TO and RW both gone……. :)
I had no idea when I woke up this morning
it would be such a wonderful day!!!
He absolutely had to go and I beleive TO will be an addition by subtravtion.
Think Texas Rangers 2006? when they traded A-Roid and damn near made the playoffs with a bunch of kids and no name players
Because that's what we want the Cowboys to do...
To damn near make the playoffs with a bunch of kids and no name players…
Ok wiseguy
How about when NY Gints got rid of Shockey and Eli went on to win the Super Bowl?!
My point being addition by subtraction
He was hurt but I do not think he was rehabbing with the team. He defintely never got on the field again
My point being Shockey had overshadowed Eli and made him gun shy.
I think TO took some of Romo’s improvisation skills out of the mix last year because of all the whining about touches.
I think this move lets Romo be the Jedi we all know and love!
Romo...
Took the improvisation out himself. He practiced so HARD in trying to be Tom Brady, that he failed in everything else.
~Texas Massacre 08~
and i always remember
when romo was “improving” playing backyard football wasnt it always TO that was right there with him.. improving………………. is that the right spelling it looks like improve-ing
What the French?! Toast!
yeah and shockey was catching 1000 yds a season double digit td's and 18.5 yds a catch,wow. hating is a disease.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Shockey is a spare....
What did the Giants win with thise #’s? What did he do with the Saints?
Screw stats I want wins so if thats being a Hater then I guess thats what I am……
Inevitable,
Pacman,
Tank,
TO,
Roy Williams,
All the whiners and crazies are going.
Greg Ellis must be peeing his pants.
by Luke. on Mar 5, 2009 9:27 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
When did Tank ever bitch or moan?
Have the Cowboys taken care of all the sources in the locker room who spilled things to the media?
And Romo took a nice step backwords as well
As the QB Romo can come to the line and check off into any play he wants.
I agree Garrett made some bad choices, but the truth is the Cowboys O did not exicute well last year.
all comes down to Oline
i hope we get healthy on the oline, and i hope we pick up some draftees to push our starters for time
by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 5, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
You've hit the nail on the head, Fan
Think of what our line mid-90’s did with Emmitt…now we have marion, felix, and tashard? If we can stay healthy and draft gamers, we can seriously pound the rock and take some of the weight of Romo’s shoulders.
What? Run the ball, stop the run? No way…
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
Thanks Seanrude .... I get it now.
I’d always thought it was a birth date, but now it’s SO obvious once you point it out.
haha i didn't think twice of it either
till you said something lol
by CowboysFan4Life on Mar 5, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
I probably would not have noticed it either except I do similar things for passwords
I use players from the 70s though, and not the obvious ones
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Totally disagree...
You never say anthing publically about your coach. I don’t care who or what you are.
It's not okay for anybody...
Never, ever say anything outside those four walls. I don’t care if it’s TO,Witten,Romo,Ware. You keep your dang mouth shut.
and thats what TO tried to do
when had that closed door meeting with JG but yet he was wrong to do that too… i just dont get it
What the French?! Toast!
There's about 160 WR's who are not getting cut today.
The one who is getting cut acted like a big mouth whiny fool who threw coaches and teammates under the bus in the press for most of the season.
What’s not to get!?
most of the season?
really i must of missed all those press conferences where he did that. No you guys are contradicting yourselves. Its ok for romo to call out JG but not TO
BOLOGNA!
What the French?! Toast!
I"m saying that nobody calls anybody out?
I don’t know what anybody else thinks but I’m from the school of keep your mouth shut. I don’t care if it’s Romo or the King of Methusla. Keep your dang mouth shut publicly.
I probably have it spelled wrong-lol
How about “the king of England”. In other words, it doesn’t matter who or how important you think you are, keep everything behind closed doors.
methuselah is the name of a person
and TO did keep it behind closed doors – until it was leaked by somebody that wasn’t him
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
BTW, I'm not pro-Romo or pro-TO.....
I’m just saying that if this team wants to get anywhere and build a championship team, they can’t be throwing anybody under the bus even if the plays suck etc. I’m not arguing for/against Romo or TO. It’s just a fact, that to have real team chemistry you can’t say anything publicly about coaches,teammates or heck I’ll throw in the ballboy. Heck, none of us liked JG’s offense but you don’t go public with it.
I'm not 'you guys', I'm just one guy,
And I never said it was ok for Romo to question Garrett at the podium. Never. It was dumb. But let’s put it in perspective. Romo said one sentence, he never even used Garrett’s name, he could have been taking about other things but it did sound like a criticism of the scheme. Dumb.
Now compare to TO’s repeated whining from week 3 onwards about Garrett, then Witten, then Romo. There’s no honest comparison between Tony Romo and Terrell Owens when it comes to this type of thing.
TO has been axed by three different NFL teams for character reasons and every time it was not his fault?
find me the clip where owens specifically called out romo and witten by name
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Terrell owens = Victim.
Calling his QB Garcia gay and getting suspended by Marriucci and then axed from the 49ers: Not Owens fault, he’s the victim.
Criticizing his QB again, and arguing with both Brad Childress and Andy Reid until he’s sacked, again: Not Owens fault, he’s the victim.
Arguing with Todd Haley in Dallas. Not Owens fault.
Complaining to the press that Jason Garrett’s scheme is the reason for his average year, Not Owens fault.
Getting cut by the Cowboys because he’s causing locker room drama for his coaches and QB in his third straight team, not his fault, he’s a scapegoat.
How do all the other 150+ WR’s in this league have virtually no problem with the sort of despicable treatment that WR’s obviously routinely get?
i dont care what happened before
but hes getting an unfair rap now. He was cut for all the wrong reasons
What the French?! Toast!
You don't know that.
Jerry and Stephen are thinking about the future. T.O. is the past.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
because he was a "cancer" and "distraction"
he was more quite this year than last but last year everything was cool right? Hes the reason the team did so bad this year tho right?
What the French?! Toast!
I had a girlfriend once who was always the victim.
Key word is “had”.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
+1
the MSM got to you to(joking) but still they fabricated these stories and everybody just accepts them as fact
What the French?! Toast!
Thanks Luke
I could not figure out how to post it on the comments window.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
MSN was already talking about all the controversial
pics that this football-personnel move has caused.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
I think its pretty funny
but I don’t think TO’s ever actually been putting himself up on a cross, except when claiming the media is out to get him
by AustonianAggie on Mar 5, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
LMAO!!!!!!!!!
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
History...
TO has destroyed teams with his behavior…
There is nothing to suggest TO will quit mouthing off. Like I said… If there is a single human being in sports that shouldn’t make comments about his team it is TO. And he couldn’t help himself, he had to be the primodonna…
You could probably talk to Tony if you had an issue with his actions and work things out.
The coaches run the team
not the players. And I though Garrett initiated that meeting.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
It was all that stupid interview with Deion.
Just had to go there at a pivotal time of the year.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
He proclaimed during the game
on the sidelines he was a free agent so it didn’t matter. Players had to hold him back from going after someone.
Raf any upcoming posts in regards to this or how it impacts FA or the draft?
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
He's probably typing it up right now
I’d say with the moves that have been made or not made in the last seven days, we have:
1. filled ILB need for next year
2. filled backup QB need
———————
1. created a depth need at CB
2. created a depth/starter need at WR
3. maintained a depth need at DT/DE with the loss of Canty
4. Must fill a need at SS, should be #1 priority
Wow
Maybe someday down the line, we’ll look back and say, “Boy, 5th March 2008 is really the day the Dallas Cowboys turned it around and returned to claim their birthright — the Superbowl.”
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Mar 5, 2009 9:34 AM CST reply actions
The circle is complete
if the good lord saw fit to take me now, I could pass knowing that all is well in Cowboys land.
Hey how about this image of owens it made me LMAO.
http://withleather.uproxx.com/2009/03/getcha-resume-ready
Getcha resume ready indeed.
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I know it may rub some people the wrong way but in his mind TO must see himself this way
he is too narcisitic not to; I just could not help but put the link up.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Don't go there.
Although it’s good for the team to go in this direction, it is still a sad day for Terrell. He really liked playing in Big D.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
The better news is he wont be in the NFC East....
Giants already came out and said they are not interested…..Philly…..yeah right and….
Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Redskins have issued an adamant "no thanks" regarding the possibility of signing Owens.
(We’ve separately heard that agent Drew Rosenhaus had already placed a call to the team about T.O.)
Mort raises a good point about the Redskins’ position — they weren’t interested three years ago, when Owens was three years younger.
Our D always played well against him anyways.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
huh
Don’t go there.
Although it’s good for the team to go in this direction, it is still a sad day for Terrell. He really liked playing in Big D.
if he was n`t complaining all the time he would still be here and be a positive influence, when someone with his talent merits being cut it`s beyond comprehension and he has no one to bbut himself.
I understand that the complaining is detrimental
I just didn’t want to see that pic of him crying!
Believe me, I’m one of the happier bloggers about this quick change of direction for the team. It’s a good thing.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Jerry on Ray.....
Not sure if anyone saw this quote from Jerry, but this was the very same reason I said Ray was not a good fit here…..
“You’ve got to look at that in the context of our overall team,” Jones said. “We have not internally really evaluated Ray from the standpoint of what we would have to do if we had Ray on the team. Ray plays exactly the same position in everything that Bradie James does. Now, is that where you want to allocate your dollars, or allocate your emphasis?”
Jerry made 3 very nice decisions...
1- Not signing Ray Lewis
2-Cutting TO
3-Cutting the THONG……
Jerry can do no wrong in my eyes right now…..This almost makes me forgive him for rushing to sign Newman, Barber and Hamlin…
+1
But at the time we needed those guys, Newman in particular…
Every successful team overpays SOMEBODY…
Guys if you can you will need to check out today's lunch break because Darren Woodson
will be a guest host and it’s gonna be a good session because the TO topic will be front and center.
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seems like it would have just been easier to find a better OC
that can make an offense with TO and RW work
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
everybody's a chemist all of a sudden
the giants had chemistry issues – and then they won the super bowl.
and then the giants started losing – and they had chemistry issues
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Remember though,
when Shockey was the “supposed” problem he got hurt. Once he went down, he wasn’t around the team much. Remember in the Super Bowl, they showed TV shots of him liquering it up in a box suite. My thoughts on Plaxico are different though. I think it was more a question that they didn’t have anybody to stretch the field once Plax went down. Defenses feared him. That’s what scares me about the TO thing. Who are the defenses gonna be afraid of now? It has to be Roy.
+1
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
I haven't seen two of TO biggest supporters yet....Terry or Numba1....hmmm.....
Like I said…..I hope some of these guys stocked up on the Prozack because it was going to happen..
Terry is a cowboys homer
i don’t think he’s hurting
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Mar 5, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he was a cowboys homer before romo
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Terry seemed to want Owens gone, if I'm not mistaken.
Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry - ESPN
How is Jerrah doing this and not getting all of the face time that he loves so much?
What did Stephen do with Jerrah? Has anybody seen Jerrah in the last day or so?
TORY HOLT
wants out of St. Louis. It’s likely he’ll get cut before march 17th as he’s due a 1.7 million dollar roster bonus. Holt is 32 years old, would be a positive influence and a leader on a team. Plus he can fill the #1 receiver spot, and let roy williams be where he belongs at the #2 spot.
by WhiteMenCanDance on Mar 5, 2009 10:06 AM CST reply actions
torry holt
i would be really happy with Holt. it’s actually kind of nice because neither RW nor Holt will be the a real #1 receiver. They are just different. Their production could just be defense dependent.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Who cares?
What’s the point if the team is trying to get younger? Holt’s just another bandaid guy that would further diminish the development of any players on the roster. All these WRs are in their 5th year or less.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
I dont
think these moves are trying to make the team younger …. I think it’s getting rid of bad locker room guys or guys who have lost a step. Holt comes from Martz’s system, which uses the same terminology as Garrett’s. I’m not a huge Crayton guy, but I do like Austin. I think if Holt gets released, if Jerry really wans to win next year, and the Boys sign him to a 2 year deal, it’s a good deal. Plus, you add another good locker room guy.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
True
But then why does Torry want out of St. Louis? Isn’t that affecting the locker room there?
Miami and Atlanta and Baltimore and Arizona all proved this past year that sucky teams can make a quick turnaround, especially with a new and improved coaching staff.
I’d rather develop team chemistry with impressionable young players rather than guys who are disgruntled with their past organizations.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Dont need another old WR.....
I don’t see any trades happening as far as WR goes…..I think were going to draft a WR, otherwise roll with what we have.
agreed
We don’t need big names, we need to coach our players up, draft well, and play as a team. How often does Pittsburgh go out and sign players?
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
Take the T.O. out of Thong and you have hng
OK, nevermind that nonsense-
Some time back, Raf put up a post about T.O.s numbers and how they indicated a decline in production (save for one bounce year) and that at 36, he is close to falling off a cliff soon. If you think in terms of the balance between what this years production might have been vs long term team value maybe it was time to make the break. We’ll see what happens this year. I like T.O. and his passion, I wish him the best.
As far as the Thong, he was a liability. Every OC in the league knew that he was a weak link and attacked it relentlessly. I think he’s a good guy, but his one dimensional play has been exposed. We are better off without having Roy in the D backfield.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
However
he would be a good fit at safety for the Iggles
Doubtful didn't they just sign that CC guy from the texans?
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Who cares
Iggles sing Ex-Roy I and let Witten get his stats for a few years
The timing though...
It is possible we will overpay for Bullets seeing as he is a free agent and we have few options…
Why didn’t jerr wait until Davis had tested the market and signed a contract with the Cowboys before cutting Thong?
March 5, 2009
the day the Cowboys defense stopped playing 10 on 11 defense.
Raf I would also like to thank you for the attempt to stick with the posted subject but just for fun
what to do you think of this pic?
http://withleather.uproxx.com/?attachment_id=15882
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Jerry is Michael Corleone...he's wacking everybody!
Great job, Jerry!
Better watch your back Greg Ellis.
If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.
by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions
Yeah, while being treated on the training table
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Greg, Try on these eyeglasses while you get a rubdown
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 5, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
Ellis would be Moe Green, all that whinning.
“He was banging cocktail waitress’s two at a time”
If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.
by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:41 AM CST reply actions
"You straightened my brother out?"
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
My wish is the Eagles get Roy and the Redskins get T.O.
If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.
by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions
A side note, was this done before TO reality show was finished taping? If not I wonder
if it will be in the final cut?
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I think this will increase the drama, he will be in full emotional display, this is the stuff that Reality
TV lives for; I do not think it gets cancelled.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Get your popcorn ready...
As the Cowboys go 5-11, Marion Barber gets hurt half way thru the season because we got to run him 40 times a game, because our WR can’t get off the Line of scrimmage. Witten will have 120 catches with 7 TD’s…. but you know what the new headline with be… Roy Williams wants out of Dallas because Witten an Romo are drawing up plays behind his back.
Heck you guys are gonna need someone else to blame for why the Cowboys will suck @#$# next season why not blame the poor man’s version of T.O?
But I perfer to look at the bright side… At least the T.O. haters will be happy though and thats all that matters… Can you say 1st overall pick for 2010… I can’t Wait!! GO COWBOYS!!!
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 10:43 AM CST reply actions
Oh please,
Dallas was 9-7 the year before T.O. got here and 9-7 two of the years he played.
The thought that he’s worth 4 wins all by himself is insane.
Raf...
I tend not to disagrees with you because I value and respect your opinion immensely… however I have to here… I don’t see this thing getting better… i see it getting worse… because so far… what has been down to sure up the real problems of last season???
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Nah
this is like a lunge forward. Keeping players like these guys around would have just continued the momentum of BS that bugs so many of us, and evidently bugs the organization as well.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
I don't see it having much effect at all, to be honest
T.O. was declining.
This team will rise and fall on exectution. The only major loss was Canty, IMO, and Dallas was never
going to pay him Giants money. Nor should they. It’s too much.
It’s on the draft now. They need an OL and strength up the middle on D.
What is your list
of “real” problems and where is team unity and cohesiveness on your list of priorities? Addition by subtraction does not appear to be a problem but we got a lot better today in the locker room, not on the field
Cowboys Shopping list.
LG,
LT * possibly
WR – of the Number variety… the kind that will draw a double team….. RW barely can get away from 1 CB
NT
WS ILB
SS
*HALF TIME ADJUSTMENTS
- Strength and Condition coach that can some how motivate players to play past November
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
The perception
there was no chemistry problems is one of stubborness. I agree with your list BTW. But something had to be done about this team not being a “team”. There has not been a single NFL team that has been able to devise a blueprint for handling T.O. which includes us. It’s unfortunate but has been proven three times
I hear you...
but so far… the only negative source of what T.O was doing in the locker room was an unnammed source. All the named sources, Crayton, Newman, Ware, Hurd, James, Davis, Johnson (tank). RW II. Everyone who was man enough to get on record defended all the T.O did as a teammate and a player.
The year before last every one was chuckling about him crying over Romo… now he’s this cancer? (again) What changed? what happened?
Was it him not getting the ball? or was it the offense as a whole just not executing… The OL not blocking, Romo not hitting open WR’s. Garrett not adjusting at halftime to take advantage of what the defense was showing.
It seemed like it always took us a 2 and a half QTR’s to figure out what was going almost every game…and most games and in 5 of those games it was too late.
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not convince Roy will be a #1 but.......
the dude was playing with a foot injury last year and wasn’t running at full speed.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
I respectfully disagree… all the reason why everyone wanted Kosier gone in 2007 was still there in 2008… the only thing was that when he got hurt we had no clear cut back up for him and his avg play was deemed extra ordinary.
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
I think you should take it to Raf the same way you would take it regular posters
minus all the deference.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
I was talking to unneccessary roughness
about his apparent fear of saying something not in conformity to Raf.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
AB03
Remember the guys who will start saying that next season will be folded?
Example A- See above.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
They are getting better and younger quickly.
Sometimes you just need to cleanse your body to rid yourself of toxins and impurities.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Is That Drunk...
Romo next? It seems like he prefers to get drunk and fat with his girlfriend while players like Owens train and prepare themselves for upcoming seasons.
~Texas Massacre 08~
Please...
You’re going to come on and talk about what someone does when they are in the offseason and be a Dallas Cowboy fan?
Irvin was snorting coke and boinking 5 hookers at a time after practice.
Romo has a few beers at night and he doesn’t train for the season.
Give me a break.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
TO is the one shooting a reality show right now during the offseason, he may not be having some drinks
but he is certainly not making football his top priority right now during the offseason. I bring this up in th context of the offseason.
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Good. 5-11 would be just fine at least we'll lose wit dignity.
If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.
by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:45 AM CST reply actions
ask the...
Lions where they put there dignity this past season….
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
explain how a 36 year old WR who has been in a five year decline
is worth four wins.
Raf...
Don’t bother, you can’t win.
People think whatever they want to think.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
because....
I’m not saying he is responsible.. I’m saying … an you know as well as I that the production that we get out of our WR Corp is directly impacted on if Owens is on the field or not… its not that HE wins games… its that if a safety is lined up and has cover 2 responsiblity with owns outside and austin inside… if Owens does a skinny post and austin does a corner… who would you bite on??
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
That double team thing is overrated.
With his skills diminishing, they wouldn’t be paying as much attention. He can be handled at the line.
George Teague, Brock Marion, the Roy Williams-of-old: Where are you?
by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Well...
S.F. thought that too… ask Nate Clements
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
I think a lot of people think TO can still get it done.
But this isn’t about TO the player any more.
SF
refused to bump TO off the line. Everyone thought they were crzy at the time for playing that way
Washington started pressing him him relentlessly in week 4. Other teams continued to use that strategy
In the next 12 weeks, TO had 213 yards against SF and and 600 against the remaining 11 teams (average of about 55 a game ). Not including the games Romo sat, TO had 213 yards against sf and 500 in the 8 remaining games….an average of about 62 a game.
are you ...
forgetting the 3 Romoless games?
Besides 2008 was an execution problem… not a T.O problem. We couldn’t run or pass block. an maybe it was just me but from week 1 Romo never looked like he had it together.
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Then why did the lack of production drop severely when Romo was out?
Seems to me that the rest of the stars could’ve picked up their game to balance out the weakness at backup QB.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
San Francisco?
You can’t use one of Dallas’ best offensive games as a unit to defend this move. That was not a formidable opponent and Nate was left on an island.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
Haynesworth just got $100 mill because he draws double teams.
Occupying 2 players on either side of the ball is a definite advantage in any sport.
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Mar 5, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
And he's also in the prime of his career.
Huge difference.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
do not fear, Gurode does not need help to handle Haynesworth
by AustonianAggie on Mar 5, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
lol
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
dudes
we still have romo, barber, felix, choice, roy, austin, crayton and witten.
we’ll be fine.
no more circus show either.
Agreed
I love our team now!
If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.
by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
You forgot..
Martellus Bennett. Hopefully he sees the field more often.
by NerdVernacular on Mar 5, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Bennett is the fun part of the circus.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sick of the drama, T.O., Pacman and Tank.
Asta!
If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.
by Captain Comeback on Mar 5, 2009 10:46 AM CST reply actions
Give it back
Lance Moore will cost Dallas a 2nd round pick.
So you’re going to spend Dallas first two picks on WRs? No thank you.
Are you serious?
So if you don’t draft a WR with the second round pick, you are just picking defense?
Did you watch Cory Proctor last year?
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
Just joking.
Don’t we still have Montrae Holland though? I’m more concerned with the lack of depth on defense, especially safety.
Oh yeah!
Knowing Irvin, he’ll find a real talent.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Look
If Roy Williams is half the WR that he says he is, we’ll be fine. We loose the headache of “having” to get TO the ball. Roy Williams was whining way to much and now he’s gone. I like this, if you bitch and moan, you’re gone. Let’s get on with playing football, getting better and getting a championship.
Gag Order
Can someone fill me in on what is going on with ESPN Radio
I heard that Newman was on their radio show talking about the Fist fight T.O. and Witten had at the end of last season.
whoa
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Witten bigger
TO crazier
Crazy beats big 9/10.
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 5, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Well I wonder if ....
we will ever learn who those sources were now that T.O. is gone…
I hope for all of you who believe that T.O was the problem that we win a playoff game next year… I just don’t see… and it really has less to do with T.O. being gone… then it has to do with this idea that THIS will be the catalyst that gets everything going. I don’t see it.. not if we don’t fix what’s the real problem.
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Mar 5, 2009 11:11 AM CST reply actions
About Time
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
Woodson just said he thinks Scandrick may get moved to FS......interesting
Newman and Jenkins on the outside…..
Without saying anymore...
I think this is a pretty accurate assessment.
by Dave Halprin on Mar 5, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Sweet!
That boy can bring home the bacon and fry it in the pan!
Gonna be great to see him on the field more often.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Darren Woodson?
I would have thought that Scandrick is too small, but Woodson definitely knows more than I do about playing safety.
I have a hankerin...
T.O. is gonna go crazy ex-girlfriend on us and spill the beans about absolutely every little thing that took place with the team. Of course we’ll have to take it with a grain of salt, because he no doubt will do it to hurt us, but I think the “drama” has yet to come…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Mar 5, 2009 11:58 AM CST reply actions
oh yeah, I'd be shocked if he is not on ESPN tonight. Bonus Irony Points if he gives the interview to Ed Werder
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
That would be awesome.
I’ll get the bowl if you start the microwave.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 5, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
That would be feeding the hand that bites you
ESPN and Ed Werder’s ratings go through the roof when they can talk about TO. If Ed Werder was never born and ESPN had any respect for its vocation, TO would still have a job in Dallas.
I’m sure TO is mad at the Cowboys, but he’s got to be pretty angry with the media, as well.
Roy, several of your hits are among my very favorite Cowboy memories
… but, your time had come and gone… something about lack of work ethic combined with questionable coverage skills
Something tells me Jerry’s wallet is hurting … holding cash now is not a bad idea… the way this economy is going, next year’s salaries will be a bargain in relation to what is getting spent right now.
Duane Thomas, Calvin Hill, Dorsett, Herschell, Emmitt ... and now MBIII, Felix, AND Choice!
Analogy
Stop bunching all three TO stops together to justify cutting TO now. Even if TO deserved to be cut in Philly and Frisco, this fails to establish that he’s done anything as a Cowboy. (Remember Keyshawn? Went from “Cancer” to model player). When TO got here, we knew about his previous stints and took him anyway. As such, our decision to keep him or cut him should not be influenced by his past actions. I’m from Philadelphia and think that the Eagles probably should have just paid him, but I’ll concede that his divorce with the Eagles was entirely his fault. However, Jerry didn’t think that past was relevant. Judge TO on his behavior as a Cowboy. If you still believe he should be cut, fine. That’s a different argument and I’m not sure which side I’m on yet. I like TO, but don’t know the details. If TO was cut because he was hurting the Cowboys, I like the move; but if he was cut because of the perception that he’s hurting the Cowboys (largely formed by the media and TO’s past) then I think it was a mistake.
Consider a guy who stole 2 cars early on in life. He’s now lawfully employed and knows that if he gets caught again, the judge won’t be happy. He doesn’t steal cars anymore and he’s great at his job. His boss is aware of his past, but trusted him enough to give him a job.
During the crime season, the police have enough work to do and can make a living, but during the no-crime season, the police worry that they’re not going to make any money (assume they get paid on "merit").
As a result, there are some overzealous police officers, who not only protect and serve, but try to entrap former criminals in crime. They throw car keys at him, open car doors and walk away and even bring him to dealerships at night and unlock the front doors.
Unfortunately for our man, a car is stolen (‘Boys miss the Playoffs) and he’s the prime suspect. The whole town thinks he’s guilty (On an ESPN poll, 49 states said Cowboys should cut TO, including Texas…how much do these voters know?) and is pressuring the prosecutor to bring charges (economic pressure…remember that Football really is just a business).
The law doesn’t allow us to convict someone on the basis of past behavior, nor does it allow us to convict a victim of entrapment, why should our calculus here be any different? If TO was a good player and teammate in Dallas (which is certainly in dispute) he should still be a Cowboy.
I guess I just don’t know if TO really stole the car…And I think that’s the sentiment a lot of us share. We feel like he got cut because everyone thinks he’s a cancer, not because he is one.
As yourself this: Is there anything TO could have done to really improve his image or is the world just too damn unforgiving?
PS-I was really planning on getting a lot of work done today…Jerry just made that impossible!
I agree with much of this notion
However, you HAVE TO look at his behavior in Philly and SF. I think people within the organization were seeing his behavior develop into something that would’ve become SF-ish. They wanted to nip it in the bud before that flourished.
by AikmanNailedMySis on Mar 5, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
What a victim of society...
If you want to avoid all the other stuff, why don’t we just say this… he couldn’t beat press coverage and is a 36 year old that relies more on physical skills then route running.
I was neither for or against the firing, but I don’t think it’s implausible why.
Dallas makes me act like Christian Bale......
I agree
Could this have been a football decision? Maybe the Cowboys saw decline in his skills and felt the time to cut the cord was now
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
I kind of agree with all of you
I think that if the coaching staff really expected a bad situation with TO, he should be gone.
I think it could be a football decision, but only if the team REALLY like Miles Austin. Because it costs more to cut him than keep him and only Roy could arguably be a better player at this point (I think TO at 36 might still be the better player, but who really knows). So basically, the only reason I can see this being a football decision is if the team thinks TO is stopping Austin’s development or taking away from Roy or Witten’s production. I expect a rookie WR pretty early, but it’s obviously not going to be anyone of TO’s caliber.
It’s clear that To will not be a back up, so it’s certainly plausible.
My point is just that I hope he wasn’t cut the reason I laid out. I’m not saying that he was cut for that reason.

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