It's time to pimp your pet cat!
by quincyyyyy on Apr 17, 2009 9:26 PM CDT
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A pet cat is a Parcellism for a draft prospect that you have an unhealthy obsession for. Given the fact that the NFL Draft (a.k.a. Christmas) is just around the corner I thought this was a good time for everyone to pimp their pet cats on one thread.
Even though I have never watched him play, my pet cat in this draft is ROGER ALLEN, a big powerful guard. He is 6'3'' 326 lbs and benched the 225 38 times. But most importantly is his last name is ALLEN!!! Just like another big powerful guard who played for us once upon a time.
Anywho, apparently he is a good football player as well. He is a fast rising prospect, and NFL Draft Scout gives him a very good grade.
Here is a taste of his scouting report courtesy of NFLDC:
Run Blocking: Allen shows the loose hips and strong hand strike on contact to dominate the defender. He is a very good screen-and-wall off type who works hard to finish. He can punish his man when driving off his initial step and is a fine road grader who can drop his weight and drive through his blocks, thanks to above average leg strength. He is very good at using his hands to lock on (see 2008 Pittsburg State, Fort Hays State and Augustana games) and has a keen understanding for positioning. He has very good balance on the move, which is evident by his ability to land on second-level defenders. He will struggle with balance when he gets his base too narrow, but that is rare to happen. He displays good consistency in attempts to seal and wall off while working in unison with his center, showing ease of movement playing in space. When he gets position on a defender, he knows how to use his mass and hand punch to shock and jolt. He is also especially effective at gaining movement when he has an angle on people and works hard to maintain position and get movement at the point of attack. GRADE: 6.9
Pass Blocking: Having allowed just one sack in his last two years, Allen has done well in protecting his quarterback. He plays flat-footed and generates a strong anchor and power base. He uses his hands well to catch the defender and is quick to recover vs. counter moves. He has very good short area kick slide and hand usage, showing proper knee bend to quickly redirect. He is equally effective when anchoring and locking out vs. power as he is when sliding and adjusting to quickness. He uses his hands well to set and hold off on contact and has more than enough strength to anchor (could use more bulk for the NFL level). GRADE: 6.8
Character: Allen is a perfect mentor for the team's younger players. He has no known off-field issues and is the type that will play through pain. He communicates well with his teammates and staff and is highly respected by the organization. He is mature beyond his years and shows great responsibility, taking pride in his leadership ability. GRADE: 6.9
Compares To: BRIAN WINTERS, Kansas City -- Like Winters, Allen has been a model of consistency throughout his career. You can also see a little of Larry Allen (ex-Dallas and San Francisco) in his play, as he shows the same tenacity, brute strength and uncanny instincts to consistently be in position to lock on and control the defender. He is a true warrior who played part of the 2008 season with a shoulder injury that would sideline most others. With a weak crop of major college talent at this position, Allen could turn out to be the Cinderella story of the 2009 draft, especially since the shoulder injury that bothered him during 2008 was recently given a clean bill of health from renowned surgeon, Dr. James Andrews.
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Brian Waters is who they meant
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by APerfectStar on Apr 17, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Star
Always wondered, is that the same Brian Waters we had in camp as a TE. I believe he was an udfa.
by oldboysfan on Apr 17, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know the Cowboys had him originally
I didn’t know he was a TE though. But yeah, Dallas could have had Brian Waters the multi-Pro Bowl Guard from KC as a part of their O-line. Another miss for us there.
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by APerfectStar on Apr 18, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Aikman tell him off one time??
I thought I watched an interview once where Waters was telling a story about how he went out there for a play and screwed up or something and Aikman yelled at him that if he didn’t know what he was doing then to get the hell off the field. Too bad we didn’t stick with the guy.
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by kameleon_o on Apr 18, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can believe that
Aikman was great at getting on people as a motivation. Some guys don’t deal with that well. I’m pleased Waters did well. I wish it had been with us. OOOPs
by oldboysfan on Apr 19, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha-Ha-Ha. Yeah, Brian Winters was the bearded shooting guard for the Milwaukee Bucks back in the day!
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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by silverblue5 on Apr 18, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darn it!
Guess it’s no secret who my pet cat is.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 17, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have 2 main ones in this draft
Both are underdogs, but I can’t figure out why
Mark Parson (CB):
This dude is short, but he’s speedy, has mad ups, and has cat like quickness. He’s a stand up guy who loves the game from everything I’ve read on him. The kind of guy Dallas really could use. How he’s not a top prospect corner this year I’ll never understand. He wasn’t even invited to the combine. What’s worse, is he’s near the bottom of draft boards if he’s on them at all. If he came to Dallas, I bet he’d make a strong push for that 2nd corner spot.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=72629&draftyear=2009&genpos=CB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYGnXm3zE_E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQna3hFO3A4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qynoJD310W0
Jarett Dillard (WR):
Ok so this guy isn’t the fastest WR you’re gonna find in the draft, nor the tallest, but he, like Parson, has ridiculous ups. He could probably come down with a jump ball over R. Moss (no joke). His routes are just amazing to watch. The guy is so quick out of his breaks, and can stop on a dime. Just incredible, and to me would blow Crayton right out of the slot IMO, probably immediately.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=18944&draftyear=2009&genpos=WR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzDRBxgKMBQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vaF3icwflI
It’s these type of players I really hope Dallas focus’s on during the draft. Both are very dedicated players who are never satisfied with their game. Both seem very genuine and want to succeed at the next level. Because they are considered under dogs, and because they both have the drive and determination, I believe they both will.
by sublimezg on Apr 17, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Dillard will be a very good slot receiver in the NFL
In regards to Parson, when you are 5’8 1/2’’ you will be at the bottom of a lot of boards. Odds are CB’s that small won’t do well in the NFL, but his 38’’ vertical should help him though, but it’s still nothing great.
Dillard however makes up for his lack of size with his vertical of 42’’ and his great leaping ability.
by quincyyyyy on Apr 17, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a whole litter (team) of kittens...as it turns out....
WR- Brian Robiskie – Ohio St. (1st-2nd)
TE/FB/H-Back- David Johnson – Arkansas St. (6th-7th)
LT - Jamon Meredith (2nd)
LG – Duke Robinson (2nd)
OC – Alex Mack (1st-2nd)
RG – Trevor Canfield (3rd-4th)
RT – Phil Loadholt (2nd-3rd)
QB – Nate Davis – Ball St. (4th-5th)
RB – Andre Brown – NC St. (2nd)
FB – Tony Fiametta – Syracuse (5th-6th)
WR – Ramses Barden – Cal Poly St. (2nd-3rd)
slot WR/RS – Brandon Tate – North Carolina (3rd-4th)
-—————————————————————————————
WOLB- Lawrence Sidbury, Jr – Richmond (2nd-3rd), (Clint Sintim – Virginia (1st-2nd)
SILB – Jasper Brinkley – South Carolina , (2nd-3rd) Scott McKillop – Pitt (3rd-5th) , Franz Joseph – FMU – (4th-6th)
WILB – Jason Williams – Western Illinois (2nd-4th) , Tyrone McKenzie – USF (3rd-4th)
SOLB – Nick Reed – Oregon (4th-6th) , (Conner Barwin – Cincy (1st-2nd)
LDE- Jarron Gilbert – San Jose St (1st-3rd) / Sammie Lee Hill – Stillman (3rd-5th)
NT – Chris Baker – Hampton (3rd-5th) / Vaughn Martin – W Ontario (4th-6th) / Terrence Knighton – Temple (4th-6th)
RDE- Dorrel Scott – Clemson (2nd-4th) / Fili Moala – USC (2nd-3rd)
Man-Cover CB’s_
CB - Alphonso Smith – Wake Forest (1st-3rd)
CB – DJ Moore – Vandy (2nd-3rd)
CB – Kevin Barnes – Maryland (3rd-4th)
Zone Slot CB’s_
CB – Don Carey – Norfolk St. (3rd-5th)
CB/PR – Joe Burnett – UCF (4th-6th)
CB – Chris Owens – San Jose St. (4th-6th)
Tweeners_
CB/FS – Sean Smith – Utah (1st-2nd)
CB/FS – Jaruis Byrd – Oregon (2nd-3rd)
CB/FS – Victor Harris – Virginia Tech (2nd-4th)
CB/FS – Keenan Lewis – Oregon St (4th-5th)
CB/FS – Bradley Fletcher – Iowa (4th-6th)
SS- William Moore – Missouri (1st-2nd)
SS – Chip Vaughn – Wake Forest (2nd-3rd)
FS - Louis Delmas – W Michigan (2nd)
FS – Chris Clemons – Clemson (3rd-5th)
BOLD = May not be available to us at #51, but would be my first selections IF there
by My_2_Cents on Apr 17, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
u gotta change your name to
My_2_Dollars
by sublimezg on Apr 17, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
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by APerfectStar on Apr 18, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if you could only pick one...any one?
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 17, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can't.....depends, who I want chosen first at #51 ? or just a guy i'm just pulling for to beat the odds being selected later on ?
I’ll have to go to the starting positions I feel are most likely up for grabs shortly…LG , ILB, and SS:
LG- Duke Robinson
WILB- Jason Williams
SS- William Moore
Sleepers I’m pulling for being drafted by the Cowboys:
Nick Reed – ILB/OLB
Sammi Lee Hill – DL
Vaughn Martin – DL
Player I feel has the most upside in the draft, and may be there for us at #51:
Conner Barwin – OLB / TE / ST <——saves a roster spot….designated 3rd down pass rusher / H-Back- 3rd TE / Special Teams star.
by My_2_Cents on Apr 18, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vaughn Martin would be a great 6th/7th round pick
then we can just put him on the game day inactives next year and let him develop. He is sort of a boom bust type prospect. Great measureables, but really raw.
by quincyyyyy on Apr 18, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is how Vaughn Martin won me over.....
sure he’s raw, but 6’3" 330lbs powerhouses don’t grow on trees….He’s a legit 330 compared to that fat slob Ron Brace….
Check this guy out : I love it !
by My_2_Cents on Apr 18, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a cool vid
but Martin won’t be pushing through wimpy scouts on his way to the QB
He’s got to get pass guys like BIGG
by BishopWest on Apr 18, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wimpy scout ? looks to be in the 6'2" 225lbs+ range to me...probably an ex ball player...nontheless..
33 reps at 225lbs tells me he could do that to most any OC/OG in the NFL……he’s got potential, and certainly would be worth a look in round 6-7, actually seems athletic enough to play DE.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/147618-nfl-draft-sleeper-profile-western-ontario-dt-vaughn-martin
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=70788&draftyear=2009&genpos=DT
by My_2_Cents on Apr 18, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides his size and power you got to love his quickness and lateral agility
his 3 cone was 7.28 and his short shuttle was 4.31. That is crazy for a dude that is 330. He is exactly the type of guy you draft in the later rounds to develop.
by quincyyyyy on Apr 18, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Martin as well...
he is a big boy and I think he is only 20 years old as well, being that he is a redshirt sophmore, he might be 21 but if he does pan out he could solidify that position for a long time
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
love all 3 sleepers
Robinson is great – just not sold on the other two but hope your right if we take them.
by oldboysfan on Apr 18, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a good list
really like all the players on their, provided we don’t reach for them
by The Triplets on Apr 20, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it
I am a big fan of Barden right now in the Draft and would love to see him here. Brandon Tate I think is definately going to be a Cowboy (A great Slot receiver that will most likely replace Crayton on Punts and Austin on KR.)
I wonder where Patrick Chung is in the strong safety Market on here (although i like Delmas and Moore a lot for safeties as they are better pass coverage guys.
Tony Romo off in dat hole, Watch roll and watch him throw, Watch him lead dem cowboys to the super bowl, now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys!
by ProBowlFactory on Apr 18, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really want Sidbury
I think he’s going to be real good, if we draft him in the third round I’ll be ecstatic!!!
Also, reflects what I think of the rest of our OLB’s. Thanks Tuna for Spencer and Carpenter (note the sarcasm) and Ellis is getting old.
by The Triplets on Apr 20, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Burnett.
He’s a heckuva returner too. He’s Bill Jones’ pet cat.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 22, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kraig Urbik and Scott McKillop.
I like football players. Great athletes are….well, great but I want guys that are just good players first.
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by kameleon_o on Apr 17, 2009 11:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I really think McKillop would fit this D nicely.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 19, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, i'd prefer Brinkley or Jason Williams
by The Triplets on Apr 20, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess i just feel like that when you play the 3-4 the ILB's
have to be pretty strong and athletic, Zach Thomas overachievers are going to always have a bit more of a hard time imo. Also, I’d prefer drafting an athletic linebacker because I think we need someone to fill Burnett’s role and that person is not currently on the roster. I’m not certain Brooking is a three down player (even if he turns out to be he’s not going to be around forever), and can we cut Carpenter already. Not sure Spencer will amount to much either. For all you, JJ drafts bad the Tuna solved our draft problems, the Tuna hit on one of three first round OLB’s and we might not have gotten DeMarcus because the Tuna wanted to draft Spears with that pick
by The Triplets on Apr 20, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While McKillop isn't super athletic
he is super strong, and is just a football playing dude to use a Parcellsism.
If we take a guy like Brinkley, I’ll be okay with it, but I know what McKillop brings to the table and its about 10 tackles per game and he’s not too shabby in pass coverage either.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 20, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good to know, I'm still not completely sold on him
but if we draft him say 6th round or later and see if he’ll pan out I wouldn’t mind
by The Triplets on Apr 20, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's definitely a 4th rounder
and will be off the board by then and I hope we use one of our 2 4th rd picks on him, probably at 117.
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by Terry on Apr 20, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I can't see McKillop lasting past the 4th
I feel he is probably going to go in the 3rd though
by quincyyyyy on Apr 20, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Micheal Ray Garvin
Might be taken in the 7th, but will be the next Devin Hester
Red and Black!! Red and Black!! Red and Black!! Congrats boys first time in team history over .500
by aussie_cowboy on Apr 18, 2009 12:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ding, Ding, Ding!!
I’ll take Tony Carter too while we’re at it.
"I see the door, I just get off on running through the wall." - Young Tripp
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 18, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee Robinson
from Alcorn State, check him out at draftguys.com, he dominated the FCS ans will become a force in the big leagues. He is a 3 down LB that we can get in the fifth round.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 18, 2009 8:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also Brandon Tate
I can’t say enough how much he will help our PR, he averaged 26 yards per punt. if he can half that total in the NFL he would be right near the top. Also it would prevent “fair-catch” Crayton to just receiver duties
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 18, 2009 8:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've got a couple guys I'd be happy with us landing..
Every draft, there are usually about a dozen guys I’m hoping for, and I’m typically not happy with a draft unless we land at least one or two of them. Fortunately, in some recent years, we have.
This year I’m hoping for guys like Ramses Barden, Louis Delmas, Darcel McBath, Vaughn Martin, Duke Robinson, Phil Loadholt, Fenuki Tupou, Herman Johnson, Jarron Gilbert, Jasper Brinkley, Frantz Joseph, and Sherrod Martin
I’m hoping we use extra late picks to move up, since there’s a decent crop of guys that should fall between the 2nd and 4th round this year.
by NerdVernacular on Apr 18, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Swain - West Texas A&M
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh…don’t tell anybody and just hope Ciskowski has him listed somewhere in the 5th.
I also like Darren Banks, the CB out of West Liberty, but he’s not an unknown because of his (gulp) TEN picks last season. 5’11" 180 and runs a 4.4? Ooh…
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Apr 18, 2009 11:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dillard
Yeah, I’m not really wishing for us to put a lot of emphasis on the WR position, but Dillard is one guy I’m absolutely sure will do really well in the NFL, and I hope we get him.
by BackInTown on Apr 18, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
big fan of Roger Allen
I hope we get him. My personal pet cats are Vaughn Martin and Jason Williams.
by The Triplets on Apr 18, 2009 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This draft appears to have more sleepers than in recent years
which is good since we have 7 picks in the last 3 rounds
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 18, 2009 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I got a couple, hmm OK five
Conner Barwin OLB – #1 overall in my dreams of our draft, but probably not happening.
Duke Robinson G – good chance we have a shot, set for the next 5 to 10 seasons at LG.
Jasper Brinkley ILB – please,please,please get this guy Jerry
Jarrett Dillard WR – Steve Largent JR
Otis Wiley FS/SS – can return punts as well, plus I can yell “Otis, my man!” when he makes a play.
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by APerfectStar on Apr 18, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I’m also superhigh on Barwin.
I love those super athletic OLB’s.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 20, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Sidbury
but Barwin would be great too. Also, I think we have a better chance of landing Sidbury, because I think it’s likely that Barwin’s gone by the early 40’s. He’s also somewhat stiff in the hips, though I tend to think it doesn’t matter because if Greg Ellis can play that position, Barwin or Sidbury should definitely be able to.
by The Triplets on Apr 20, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitly
I’d rather have Barwin, but Barwin will probably be gone before Dallas gets a chance to get there.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 20, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Barwin gets into the second you have to trade up for him
he has so much versatility. He can play OLB in a 3-4, and I bet he could play ILB as well. You can also use him on offense as a H-back/TE. He is definitely one of the most intriguing players in the draft.
by quincyyyyy on Apr 20, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he falls past #40, I will probably start yelling (at the TV) for the trade up
He’s got so much upside it’s ridiculous.
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by APerfectStar on Apr 20, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah bro.
If we get Barwin I’d be ecstatic.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 21, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'M Sooo CONFUSED
The video you guys have posted have been great. It’s totally messed up my own draft board so many times that I’m wearing out the delete button. But here are some players that I would like.
Max Unger C preferred won’t be at 51 take Shipley much later and Robinson here
Dalmas S preferred won’t be at 69 take Chung or Johnson or McBath
Lang OT preferred at 101 or Phillips ILB
Shipley if we didn’t get Unger
McGee QB at 156 or Dilliard WR I think McGee is the one I’d like to get most .
Taylor NT at 172
Turner Wr at 208 if we didn’ t get Dilliard at 156
Trade the rest.
by oldboysfan on Apr 19, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like him too,
but i think that if he’s drafted any earlier than say the mid forties, it’s a reach. Having pops be a wide receiver coach is great and all, but he’s not going to be a game changer. In fact, I guess my thing with him is, has he already hit his ceiling? and if so how good a pro does that make him, a sure handed version of Patrick Crayton? thoughts? (don’t get me wrong though I’d like to get him at 51, I’m just playing the devil’s advocate a bit)
by The Triplets on Apr 20, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he'll be much better than Crayton
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 20, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed, i guess i just wonder
what type of ceiling do he has? or is the fact that his floor is pretty high the point? don’t get me wrong I really would like to see Robiskie wearing the star, it’s just that I think he’ll solid but probably not great, except he’s great in the fundamentals department which might be the most important, so point taken. Also, his effectiveness would depend on whether Austin can stretch the defense, because I don’t think Robiskie or another reciever on our current roster can do that (ok Stanback has the potential to, but I don’t think he’ll see the field)
by The Triplets on Apr 20, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robiskie certainly won't be a star
but he more than likely will be a very good NFL receiver, and thats all you can ask for in a 2nd rd WR.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 20, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine is
Quan Cosby blocks, catches and returns he will be there late because he is just 5’9" and is 27 yrs. old.He has class and character and will be there in the late rounds or as a FA.
by TCB Orange Dino on Apr 19, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Raf and Grizz...
Who are your pet cats?
by quincyyyyy on Apr 19, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Quinn Johnson, FB, LSU
I don’t know why, I just love a FB who can deliver the punishing block. No other real reason than that. I’ve always considered a pet cat as a later-round guy/UDFA who you really like more than is rational. That’s me and Quinn.
by Dave Halprin on Apr 20, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok i`ll play and I`ll only pick 1
Gilchrist, Jeremy (WR), Hampton nfl draft scout has him as the number 1 punt returner but also has him going undrafted, but with 11 picks we can afford to pick him late.
by ziggy19 on Apr 19, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Duke Robinson
The only top ranked player at their position (and one of need for us) available at #51
Res firma mitescere nescit
by Fighter15 on Apr 20, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's overrated though
there should be plenty of other better rated prospects at #51.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 20, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will
trust Jerry and Co. To evaluate talent better than me at this point. We can discuss all the players we want and need till we are blue in the face, but after the last couple of drafts and the production we have gotten, I will let them evaluate the talent. I will sit back and see if what they do agrees with who I think should get picked. My particular cat is Graham Harrold, but by my SN you could have guessed that. I like his poise, confidence and willingness to stand in the pocket while there is a storm of bodies roiling around him. That is the one thing he has I don’t think you can teach. I think he will have the ability at the Next level to remain calm under pressure and not look to run at the first sign of danger.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Apr 20, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't want Dallas to draft a qb
if we sign Harrell as an undrafted free agent then fine, but imo he’s not going to make it and if we draft him before the 7th round, it’ll be a major waste
by The Triplets on Apr 20, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Robinson is....
THAT overrated. He might be slotted a little higher than he should, but he could be a solid lineman.
But you’re right, there should be.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 20, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking Robinson doesn't get drafted Saturday
we’ll see, but from what I’ve been reading, his stock is dropping.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 20, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is pushing his stock down?
The boards I trust have him pretty much settled in at anywhere from 50 to 55.
I would be extremely happy to get him with our second pick (currently #69) if he did fall to day 2.
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by APerfectStar on Apr 20, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his lazy work ethic
plus the fact he can only operate in a phone booth. Robinson is no where near the prospect of Mack, Unger and Wood, all of whom will definitely be drafted ahead of him, and in this years weak interior OL class, I can’t see 4 interior OL going in the first 2 rds.
But like I said, we’ll see, I could be wrong, you never know on draft day.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 21, 2009 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not in disagreement about Mack, Unger, and Wood
They should all go before the end of the 2nd. But it’s a stronger than usual group.
But I think you’ve bought into the negative hype surrounding Robinson too much. Hey, if he’s not taken in the first day, I’d hope Jerry moves to the top of the 3rd round for him.
Lazy work ethic and limited to phone booth sounds like the draft guide speak for we don’t know what to list under the negatives. The guy is a beast.
We shall see soon enough.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Apr 21, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Cis. has draft priorities at all positions...
1) hard worker
2) smarts
If Robinson lacks work ethic, he may not be as high on DAL’s board as he is on your’s.
by BishopWest on Apr 21, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm..
I doubt we’ll go for any player with a 12 wonderlic score
by My_2_Cents on Apr 22, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think some team
takes him (12 wonderlic) before 51 and DAL doesn’t have to make that choice
by BishopWest on Apr 22, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wasn't talking about Duke...btw.
i was refering to a few people’s darling Delmas..
by My_2_Cents on Apr 22, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The wonderlic
Is garbage anyways.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 22, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So?
Alex Smith scored ridiculously high and Dan Marino scored ridiculously low as well.
Vince’s problem wasn’t footbal intelligence, it was not knowing how to deal with failure and poor mechanics.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 22, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 cents
yes – I know – delmas had the 12 wonderlic – that is who I was referring to
by BishopWest on Apr 22, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
toss in his 12 reps at 225lbs...and you got yourself an overhyped marginal talent in a very weak Free Safety class...
If you really want a ball hawking playmaker playing centerfield…you look at CB’s that are proven coverage guys against WR’s, with the size and physicality to play the FS position in a deep coverage scheme…guyz like:
Sean Smith- Utah (24-58)
Jairus Byrd- Oregon (42-72)
Victor Harris- Viginia Tech (54-104)
Sharrod Martin- Troy (48-90)
Keenan Lewis- Oregon St.(80-120)
Bradley Fletcher- Iowa (96-150)
Glover Quin-New Mexico (125-175)
Everone of these CB’s-players is better at covering receivers than FS’s – L Delmas, R Johnson or D McBath..PLUS they can play special teams(some even return punts), AND play nickle/dime CB in a dime…..it’s about getting the most value out of each pick, and what can they bring to the team immediately…
I’d take a Macho Harris in the late 3rd round over Louis Delmas in the mid 2nd round all day, every day…he’s just as/if not more physical in the run game, and a better coverage guy, and he’s a dynamic punt returner….this is a no brainer my friends…it’s about value….
by My_2_Cents on Apr 22, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really like Keenan Lewis.
I almost put him in my mock. Couldn’t fit him in with my other “pet cat’s”. LOL. He’s a real sleeper that’s starting to get some pub. He doesn’t have all the physical tools you want in a CB but he’s a prototype FS. Great instincts. Smart player. Would love to hear his name called in the mid rounds for us. He lost all the creatine weight from the Combine and is back at his playing weight. Increased his vertical by 5 inches at his pro-day.
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by kameleon_o on Apr 23, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why? Marino was scored a 13, obviously it means nothing
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by Terry on Apr 22, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it means he was too dumb to win a championship..right ?
by My_2_Cents on Apr 22, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not at all
Phins didn’t win a championship because their defense sucked, Marino is one of the best QBs of all time and his football intelligence was off the charts.
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by Terry on Apr 23, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
The other day I remember that I read a question that a reporter asked to a team scout that is one of his sources (can’t remember the site, maybe draftdaddy) about Delmas and his score, the answer was: “On film and out of what we have found out after our conversations with him, the guy has football smarts, that trumps the wonderlic test results 10 times out of 10”.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Apr 23, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BINGO!!!!
we have a winner!!!
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 23, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so he should be gone long before 51.....no biggie...no big lose...
by My_2_Cents on Apr 23, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not necessarily
hoping there will be some GMs that think like you and pass him by to our benefit and their loss.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 24, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry doesn't have to move to the top of the 3rd rd
we’re already there at 69.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 22, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't #65 the top of the 3rd?
Jerry should move from 69 to 65 :)
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Apr 22, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what we should do is move down from 51...IF several of our targeted players are still available, or gone already...
RD2) move down to like 60….maybe pick up an extra late 4th rounder…ok….pick 60- ( SS-Will Moore?)
RD3) get to #69, trade down again about 5 spots, pick up an extra 5th maybe ? pick 74- (OLB-Lawrence Sidbury?)
RD3) ok…now shop our #117, obtained 4th rd, plus a 6th rd to a team at,say pick 80 – ( ILB-Jason Williams?)
RD4) pick 104 – (OC – Andre Caldwell ?)
RD4) ok…..take 2- 5th rounders and move up into the mid 4th, say pick 125 – ( NT- Sammie Lee Hill ?)
RD5) (OG- Roger Allen ?)
RD5) (QB- Nate Davis ?) compensation pick
Trade both 7th rounders to move up to late 6th round, say pick 200 – (WR/PR Johnny Knox)
RD6) (CB/PR- Joe Burnett ?) compensation pick
There you go ….the closest I’ll come to a final mock draft….read it and weep…
by My_2_Cents on Apr 22, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be fine with that scenario
As long as they don’t reach for a guy, they have a good shot at getting the 3 to 4 future core players in that 3rd to 5th round area, and also put some 2010 picks into their pocket for next year.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Apr 24, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol....I guess it's tough to be rated any higher than #1 OG in the draft....
that term “overrated” is so loosely thrown out there it’s absurd….If a team needs a OG (like we do) then drafting the top OG in the draft is not reaching for an overrated guy…He is ranked among the top 60 players no matter how much you may want to go another direction…pretty tough to label a 2 time all american overrated.
by My_2_Cents on Apr 21, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a heavy legged waist bender
who will slide. Being rated as the best guard in an extremely weak guard class doesn’t assure him of being picked early.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 21, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we shouldn't draft Robinson imo unless
he’s there in the first round and there aren’t any higher rated defensive players on our board like Lawrence Sidbury, Patrick Chung, maybe Darcel McBath. Also I’m not sure that Robinson plays to his size. like others have said, I think he’s a bit overrated, but in the third he’d be a good value
by The Triplets on Apr 20, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean second rd, we don't have a first rd pick
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by Terry on Apr 20, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Thomas
WR – Arizona
Deadly punt returner and dynamic receiver. I have seen this guy in person a couple of times and he is something else. I read the other day that he is the most underrated player in the draft. I think he would be a great fit in the 4th or 5th rounds. The great thing about him is that he is a polished route runner and can get on the gameday 45 as a special teamer.
The only real issue with him is he is short for a receiver at 5’ 9" or 5’ 10" but we have seen small receivers bite us in the a$$ before.
by Impatient on Apr 20, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I like him too. He would be a great pick for this team.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 20, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my only question is how the cowboys feel
about shorter wide receivers. I like Mike too, but I don’t know if it’s realistic to think we’ll go for a smaller receiver (though I’m not going to make an argument about why not for them).
by The Triplets on Apr 20, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like the Cowboys prefer bigger WRs, but I don't see why they can't switch it up with a shorter, quick guy.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 20, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its definitely time to add a little variety to the receiving corps.
"I see the door, I just get off on running through the wall." - Young Tripp
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 20, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree on Thomas
PR/ KR/ Slot WR fills needs, would be an asset to the team. Middle 4th round might be his price tag.
He’s small, but fearless about running routes across the middle. The new rules about hitting WR’s resulting from that Wes Welker bone rattler might help the smaller WR’s have safer careers.
Feb. 27 -- Veteran free agency signing period begins. Trading period begins.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Apr 20, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 WR/RS- Mike Thomas has my vote....mid/late 3rd round material...
If we go WR at all…he’s one guy I would be pulling for after round 2…
by My_2_Cents on Apr 21, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Khalif Mitchell DT ECU in the 7th round
Prob a DE for the Cowboys, at 6’5" seems a little tall for NT, centers and guards might be able to get underneath him.
Injuries were an issue his Sr. year but when he is healthy he is impressive.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=11546&draftyear=2009&genpos=DT
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Apr 21, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1...he is purely a 3-4 DE
i like him though…..Igor, Spears, Rat, Bowen, Hatcher, Dixon….DE not exactly high on the list of needs…
by My_2_Cents on Apr 21, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until there is a proven replacement I still list Rat at NT
That being said I agree DE still wouldn’t be high on the list of needs, but if the Cowboys have addressed more pressing needs earlier, and can go for value in the 7th round, I wouldn’t mind seeing them take Mitchell.
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Apr 21, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want LB's
1. Jasper Brinkley
2. Jason Williams
3. Franz Joesph
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
by regaberto on Apr 21, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
my three favorite ILB's right there...
by My_2_Cents on Apr 21, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
McKillop is better than all 3
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 21, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
possibly
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 21, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...sounds a lil bias there...
i bet all three go before McKillop..
by My_2_Cents on Apr 21, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
These guys all have 2010 starter written all over them
Im still not that sure of Mckillop. if we did get him i wouldnt sweat it though
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
by regaberto on Apr 21, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McKillop will turn out to be a better pro than all 3
He doesn’t have the measureables of those guys, but he’s just flat out a better football player.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 22, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
he may be a good pro, but Brinkley and Williams will be better pros imo.
by The Triplets on Apr 22, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
McKillop is a great college player, but he doesn’t the physical skills of some of the other guys. Not a knock on him, he’s made the most out of the least.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Apr 22, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't necessarily say that
McKillop is one of the strongest ILbs in the draft
by quincyyyyy on Apr 22, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ILB-Jason Williams will be an immediate contributor and be at Pro Bowl status in 3 years....write it down.
My official pet cat…
this year DeMeco Ryans…same player, same game
by My_2_Cents on Apr 22, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember hearing the same about Burnett
He’s no longer in our team and was signed to peanuts and hasn’t been given a starter job.
I like the guy, but this marking down stuff is getting silly…
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Apr 23, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Burnett had injury issues coming out of college as well
if I am not mistaken, and Williams is better built
by quincyyyyy on Apr 23, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see the Raiders jumping all over this guy in the 2nd.
They had luck with small school guy Thomas Howard and probably wouldn’t mind doing it again. Can’t teach speed.
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by kameleon_o on Apr 23, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tell me Tom
what skills does McKillop lack that those other LBs have? Look at the combine numbers and you’ll see they are about the same.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 23, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did well, I know. But didn't you say those triangle numbers don't matter?
When you watch him film of McKillop looks so slowwwwwwwww. He’s a good college player because he knows how to dissect plays and take good angles, but he doesn’t knock the stuffing out of people with all that strength, he drags them down.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Apr 23, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I watched Scott for the last 2 years live in person and he never looked slow to me for an ILB.
The bottom line with McKillop is like with Delmas, his football instincts are completely off the chart, he simply knows how to play the position, ALWAYS in a position to make the play and those are the types I want on my team.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 24, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a smart hard working player by all accounts
I would be happy if they snagged him. I just think he doesn’t have the natural athletic ability of some of the other players, but I’ve only watched him a couple times, so you have more to go on. At worst, he’d be a very solid backup, so he’s a safe pick.
April 25-26 -- NFL Draft
by APerfectStar on Apr 24, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnny Knox
Johnny Knox from Abilene Christian University.
Similar to Miles Austin, but has better hands and runs better routes. Small school prospect that will take some time to develop at the next level.
by TK19 on Apr 21, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not really
Austin is a good three inches taller and 35 pounds heavier
by quincyyyyy on Apr 21, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
he’s closer to a deasean jackson.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 22, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha really?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 23, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
my bad i though you said knox is.. I was like “wow, big knox fan on here” haha
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 23, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
by kameleon_o on Apr 23, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about Mike Wallace
He’s 6’, 199 and has been clocked in the 4.2’s. Can anybody say “Bullet” Bob Hayes? (okay I know we’re not getting another Bullet Bob Hayes, but we could try right? and hopefully without the post retirement problems, and I guess also without an Olympic gold medal too) Yup I really like Mike.
by The Triplets on Apr 22, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going with a pair of Carolina receivers
That I believe will BOTH make an impact…
Hakeem Nicks and Brandon Tate.
Nicks Looks like Michael Irvin
(sorry Grizz, first few plays vs Ga Tech!
Tate is Da Man
I can’t help thinking Tate could be this year’s best rookie WR… the knee is supposed to be healed, the pot stuff is not good but GREAT for our chances of STEALING him with a 5th. And once he’s here, you’re all gonna just LOVE watching him.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on Apr 23, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I picked two WRs, but...
I agree we need to focus on middle D and offensive line with our first 2-3 picks… why Tate makes more sense than the rising Nicks.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on Apr 23, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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