…but there is no guarantee as to whether that QB will be decent or not. See: Alex Smith: See: Cade McNown. See: Matt Leinart. And dozens of other examples.

What the Bears did is get a PROVEN starting QB (13-1 in games where his defense allowed 21 or fewer points; 65 career TDs to 50 something picks despite being forced to play as a rookie, which skews his numbers badly) for a mid first round pick.

Let’s say Denver uses the Bears two first rounders on players in that 16-24 range in the next two years. So they get a Joe Flacco and a Sam Baker. Or a Felix Jones and a Mike Jenkins. Do you really put those pairs of players, even as good for their positions as they can be, on the same level of value as a franchise quarterback, just about to enter his 10 year prime? A proven stud at the most valuable position in all of sports?

I don’t get your thinking on this at all. Denver did what they had to do, and they got probably about the best value they could for a player who didn’t want to play for them. But to say the Bears came away badly in this deal— to say that Jay Cutler is only a moderate upgrade over KYLE ORTON, one of the NFL’s worst starters over the past 3 years— is ludicrous to me.

People value the potential of draft picks too much. I’d rather have the bird in the hand— Cutler— over the potential two in the bush. Look at Denver’s recent first round draft pick history and I would think you’d agree.

Just because your friends or what not did it that doesnt mean thats how the rest of the world has tried it. Where i grew up the few people that tried it went no where and still do it because thats all the live for.. does that mean thats how everyone is that has tried it no.

And even if it should or shouldnt be illegal the point is it is illegal and against league rules. And the fact someone would jeopardize that is crazy and stupid.

It had to do with the fact that he was a guy who is aiming at making millions of dollars and isn’t smart enough to realize that there are ramifications of his actions.

I’m not going to lie and say I didn’t do some stupid things when I was younger, but when I had something I HAD to get done, I pushed those things out of the way and committed to them.

It’s all about priority.

I stay clean to protect a job that pays less in my lifetime than this guy is going to get paid for one season. If I must adhere to those guidelines however stupid everyone else thinks they are, then I can be sanctimonious and expect the players my children are going to look up to and possibly adopt as role models to do the same. Like I also said, what they do in the privacy of their own homes is their business. If they want to get high with their posse and snort lines of coke off of the butts of hookers then so be it. But, when they get popped on a random, I also expect their overpaid butts need to be shown to the door. If they come out and say they have a drug problem, get counseling and stay clean for their careers, then more power to them. Otherwise, don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

I’d say 15% of the regular users of this board are stoned when they read and post.

Of course that might explain a few comments.

15% seems like a low approximation.