The position has evolved to keep up with the pass first mentality of the game. Im confident that T.Cis and Wade will bring in the type of safety who will fit our scheme. This back and forth FS vs SS debate seems a little outdated. Its the right guy for our scheme. Who ever we get better match up with the TEs we will be seeing this year because we face 4 of the 5 best. Gates Gonzales, Shockey, and Winslow. We could very well see each and everyone of those guys a second time in the playoffs as well.

there are clear distinctions that seperate the two safety positions, and their respective responsibilities……SS’s in any system(especially 3-4) are not put in positions to be covering WR’s, especially deep zones……SS usually always line up strong side, usually within 10-15 yards from line, and are primary defender on TE’s and/or RB’s, with a major proportion of responsibility designated on run support, and recognition of play…normally always take on the TE on the whistle, and either cover,hold up, or shed

 FS always plays off weak side (unless there is a bunch formation) 10-15+ yards off the line, and responsible for intermediate/deep cover to the inside against slot/split WR’s, but also must maintain positional integrity and seal off any running play coming to that area…………..

Hamlin does that task well, and was hampered last season because of the poor interior play of the SS’s we threw out there, causing him to shade in closer diminishing his effectiveness to play centerfield, and I’d sure love to see film of him being beat deep somewhere…if any is available….Hamlin is not better underneath, and would make the overall Safety position weaker if moved closer to the line…imo…

A sub 6’0" 200lbs S (Delmas/Johnson) would never hold up in a 3-4 scheme,(Roy does have valid point in that sense) where they are often exposed and targeted by running schemes because of their inability to take on or shed blockers, nor are they big enough to take on 6’4" 250lb TE’s in coverage…….

Roy Williams-SS was the problem here…..not Ken Hamlin-FS…….

Hamlin-FS did fine inintermediate/ deep coverage, playing centerfield and QB, getting players in position, aside from serious flaws(Baltimore) with his near the line recognition/and eventual bad angles, he got wooped up on near the line in run spport…….and he’s the answer at SS ?…not…

Roy-SS couldn’t stick his guy early on(slow to react), couldn’t flip(not fluid) and shadow(lacks agility and quickness), and receivers got behind him(no recovery speed)…..hence the Roy we all saw on getting smoked..BUT…He is surely not sole problem, as many times I do believe it was the CB’s that passed off their responsibilities to Roy too soon, or too late(by playing off, and not funneling the WR’s inward enough… in many cases Roy was indeed a scapegoat, but he surely didn’t do his job consistantly in coverage either, but a SS shouldn’t be 20+ yards off the line at any point in time(a scheme flaw)…and needed to go………..

stop equating smallish(because they are small must mean they are quicker, faster, or more fluid) DB’s/FS’s with ability to cover wide receivers man vs man, it’s just not true….

There is not one Safety in this draft that can stick with a Santana Moss or Desean Jackson….none….

If there is a Safety out there that is 6’1" 219lbs, and runs under a 4.5 40….doesn’t exclude him from playing in coverage because he’s bigger than the guy your all so adamantly pimping out as the only type of Safety we should be looking at……….

btw…Darren Woodson was 6’1" 219lbs…under 4.5 40……everyone’s poster boy for the type of Safety we need…He was a SS for years, then converted to FS…..

William Moore- 6’0" 221lbs …under 4.5 40
Chip Vaughn- 6’2" 218lbs…under 4.5 40
David Bruton- 6’2" 215lbs…under 4.5 40

If your looking for a deep zone/ballhawking playmaker(which we also need)…we should be looking at the CB’s….S Smith, A Smith, DJ Moore, J Byrd, V Harris, S Martin, K Barnes, K Lewis, B Fletcher, etc. etc…..all as physical as the FS’s mentioned, and just as good, or better in coverage….

there is a difference……..they also visited with or interviewed, and/or scouted Court Greene, Chip Vaughn, Will Moore, CJ Spillman, David Bruton, and Mike Hamlin……i really don’t care who made the visit to Valley Ranch….I am sure they used up their alloted 30 visits…

WE NEED BOTH……and I’d be shocked if we don’t take two Safeties….

I’m fine with drafting L Delmas or S Smith, and will be happy if one of those guys gets pick (although both will most likely be gone by #51, which I’ve contended all along)…They just wouldn’t be my first choice at #51……….

Draft anyone of these guys at #51, and I’ll be happy -—-

Conner Barwin-OLB/ILB
Clint Sintim-ILB
Larry English-OLB
Jarron Gilbert-DE
William Moore-SS
Pat Chung-SS
Sean Smith-FS/DB
Louis Delmas-FS
Al Smith-CB
DJ Moore-CB
Jairus Byrd-DB
Ziggy Hood-DE
OC/OG-Alex Mack
OC/OG-Max Unger
OC/OG-Eric Wood
OT-William Beatty
OT-Ebon Britton
OT-James Meredith
Percy Harvin-WR
Brian Robiskie-WR

IF ALL these players are gone…THEN….I would trade down….

Wood is more stout than Unger, and has a mean streak….needed for interior play….I’d like Unger at LG or RT……

.If any of these 3 is available at 51 they may be the best option.