The Valley Ranch Review: Draft Day Edition

This weekend has a holiday feel for Cowboys fans. Whether you are watching the draft alone at home, with some friends, or partying at the Arlington Convention Center, the #51 will be much anticipated. Will Dallas stick in that slot, or try to move up?
DMN's Todd Archer says that Jerry Jones may have a hard time staying put.
"We're going to put him in a straitjacket," executive vice president Stephen Jones joked.
For a second, Jerry Jones thought about the potential boredom of sitting on his hands for more than six hours Saturday.
"You're right," he said. "Put me in a straitjacket."

Here's something to chew on: FOX's Peter Schrager's complete seven-round mock draft.
51. Dallas - Patrick Chung, S, Oregon
69. Dallas - Pat White, QB, West Virginia
101. Dallas - Mike Wallace, WR, Ole Miss
117. Dallas - Alex Boone, OT, Ohio State
156. Dallas - Quan Cosby, WR, Texas
166. Dallas - Ryan Mouton, CB, Hawaii
172. Dallas - Augustus Parrish, OT, Kent State
197. Dallas - Andrew Gardner, OT, Georgia Tech
208. Dallas - Brandon Underwood, S, Cincinnati
210. Dallas - Graham Harrell, QB, Texas Tech
227. Dallas - Jamarko Simmons, WR, Western Michigan

Dallas needs to do a better job drafting offensive linemen.
DMN's draft series features Ohio State WR, Brian Robiskie.

Tony Romo and Baltimore's Joe Flacco were quarterbacks found from colleges not necessarily known for producing pro players, let alone starting QBs. Their successes may help open the doors for this year's crop of obscure gun-slingers.
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I hate the late start time for the draft this year
Anyone else wish they would get going at 12:00? It would make me feel better about cracking open my first adult beverage early. No first round pick is kind of a drag too. Oh well—should be interesting.
Yeah, I want to get this show on the road.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey Aaron
Can you make a open thread or something on the main post were we could talk nothing but the draft??
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
Grizz is doin' that.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Normally I would hate it at 4
But this year is good, I got some time to hit the beach before the draft starts. Anyway, I am a huge Brian Robiskie fan, I would love to see us draft him. I know we have needs at safety, but do you think any of the safety prospects we are looking at will outperform Sensabaugh?
This year Sensie >>> then all the prospects
NFL moves at a different speed and any rookie will have to learn the ropes. Long term is a whole different story. The rookie will have a second round (or later) contract. Sensie plays great now, he could end up with a Hamlin contract.
To be honest who can really project what a rook will become, likewise how much growth does Sensie still have?
Here's a thought
Why are we so high on Sensi? As good as he can be, he could also be teh suck. We just don’t know for sure, and I’m surprised so many posters are taking it as a given that he’ll be just fine.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Apr 25, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
I HOPE he’s very good, but I’m always very skeptical when there is a player that dallas signs that is somewhat cheap.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
He was a NFL starter
Sensi finished his initial contract, the Jags didn’t want to give him market value, it not like they throw a ton of money around. He’s the ideal rental – an experienced player that must fight for his next contract. If he produces, he’ll get his money next year. If he doesn’t work out, he won’t break the bank.
yeah it makes no sense for the late start time..
I like Chung, but #51 is a little too high for him…The more and more I think about it Jerry is going to move up. Maybe not the first round, but the top of the 2nd maybe…
Next years
Safety class is way better. But I couldn’t argue if we took one early today, we desperately need one. I don’t think Sensabaugh is the answer at SS. Hell, I’m not sure Hamlin is the answer either (at SS or FS).
by DoomsdayD75 on Apr 25, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Who are the big safeties projected for next year?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Mays and Chancellor
Plus that Rhodes Scholar Rolle may be back
Nice.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I just read your tag line
That’s funny %100 of the time
That's too early for Chung
Unless Chung is Jerry’s guy, two or more safeties could be drafted before Chung. That means two or more players at other positions slide down. Is Chung better than Loadholt, Robinson, Wood, Robiske, Brace, …
By the time
Cowboys are on the clock, every Cowboy fan on planet earth will be three sheets to the wind.
Not that that’s a bad thing.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
I'd hate it...
if the Cowboys traded down, or out of the 2nd.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Apr 25, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions
Only if we get a 1st next year. Otherwise I agree with you
by staubachfan on Apr 25, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
There are several interesting possibilities for #51
But give me that extra first every time!
Don't think
anyone’s giving up a first next year unless we package MuLtIpLe picks
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Apr 25, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Some GMs do stupid things to get their guy
Matt Millan still wants a shot at another WR, Parcell’s would do it for the right LB or TE.
id trade into the first if jenkins feel to the bottom of the round
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
Me2. I'd get all Snickers' Viking at my TV.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Haha
that fro makes me happy.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeehaw!
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I made a last mock
I’m predicting that Delmas, Sean Smith, Robiskie and most of the other 2nd Round graded players at positions of need won’t be there at 51, so I started looking for trade down partners and I found the Chargers, those guys have a big need for a 3-4 DE and I think that Jarron Gilbert is going to be there. That trade works for Dallas (they get a 3rd and 4th this year and a 3rd next year) and works for San Diego.
And the mock goes like this:
3 (69) – CB/FS/StarDB Sherrod Martin
3 (78) – ILB Jason Williams
4 (101) – T Robert Brewster
4 (113) – G/C T.J. Lang
4 (117) – NT Chris Baker
5 (156) – WR Brooks Foster
5 (166) – CB/FS Don Carey
5 (172) – CB Brice McCain
6 (197) – G Roger Allen
6 (208) – FB Brannan Southerland
7 (210) – TE Davon Drew
7 (227) – ILB Joshua Mauga
The horrible Fox mock made me want to post this…. Pat White? Alex Boone? Ugh. I also don’t agree with Chung, but I can see that happenning.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Don't we have a big need for a 3-4 DE?
But I like your mock much better than that crap above – 2 QBs!
there's no stud NTs in this draft
by bleedinbluensilver on Apr 25, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Not in the first round
Ratliff wasnt supposed to be a stud. he is Romo wasnt suppose to be any good he is.. Mcbriar was UDFA hes a probowl punter. Theres Value to be had in every round and alot of those big NT can be studs
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
How about that Michigan guy?
Haven’t heard much about him lately…he must still be a 4th or 5th?
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember many years ago
The draft was on a weekday hardly any coverage at all. I used to call in sick to stay home to watch it on ESPN.
Yeah, now it's a huge deal.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
its the event that keeps us all sane till preseason
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
I love that they have Jon Gruden on the NFL network talking about the draft.
Considering he might have had some of the worst drafts in the NFL.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Im going to miss NFL Network...
I have Comcast and as of May 1st they won’t carry it….Sucks big time..I have Sirus Radio and will only be able to catch the 7pm edition of Total Access from now on.
Aaaaah
that sucks
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Comcast sucks....
the only reason i have cable was for the NFL channel…oh well ,money back in my pocket after i cancel it after the draft….
"Let me tell you sumthin' son ! an ass whippin' hurts no matter what kinda shape your in ! " Stone Cold Steve Austin
I hate living in OKC but
they have cox cable here, and I can honestly say its one of the better cable systems.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
What the heck? I can't believe Comcast won't carry NFLN!
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
2 qbs?
how can they have the cowboys taking two quarterbacks, particularly one at 69? i’m not saying we don’t have to think about the future, but that seems awfully early. and not even on NT or ILB?
Thank god thats a mock.......
4 WR’s (including pat white). Jerry aint that crazy.
By the way, im talking about the mock from the foxsports guy not you chandus.
Yeah, I went through his seven round mock
it bears no relation whatsoever to the Cowboys rankings.
Foxsports
is notorious for having some of the worst rankings/mocks around.
I remember they had a guy a couple of years ago who was breaking down fantasy drafts and said that Witten could be traded because Dallas really liked Fasano.
I remember sitting there and reading it and thinking… this guy gets paid for this?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
quan cosby is gonna be a udfa and he has him at 5th pick
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
BTW, have you seen Scott Wright's last mock?
Percy Harvin in the 2nd… That won’t happen.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I hear he's been training really hard
working on lung capacity with Michael Phelps
lol
Is he also a photographer?
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I actually agree
I think that despite his troubles, he’s way too intriguing.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Final Mock
I think Louis Delmas, Max Unger, Brian Robiskie, William Moore, Lawrence Sidbury & possibly Ron Brace are ALL off the board when Dallas picks at 51. With that in mind, here is my final mock (all 11 picks). SEC top heavy. I also think the WR the Boys like is Massaquoi. Hoping for a solid draft!
PS:
don’t trade up for the A&M QB!
2. Mohamed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia
3. Rashad Johnson, FS, Alabama
4. Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon St.
4. Brandon Williams, DE/OLB, Texas Tech
5. Corvey Irvin, DT, Georgia
5. Quinn Johnson, FB, LSU
5. Antonio Appleby, ILB, Virginia
6. Brandon Hughes, CB, Oregon St.
6. Graham Harrell, QB, Texas Tech
7. Phillip Hunt, OLB, Houston
7. Cary Harris, CB, USC
Levitre as the top pick in the 4th would be awesome.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Gosselin
Has us taking Levitre in the 2nd. Make of that what you will.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Apr 25, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't like that
Give me big fat Herman in the 4th
I think he'd be a good pick regardless, but I really don't want to have to talk about an Olineman all night.
yawn
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
another fb would make sense to compete with the cricket
by bleedinbluensilver on Apr 25, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else have the feeling...
that the Redskins are going to do something ridiculous today?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
my guess
if they are going to make a splash is trade up into the top 5 for Sanchez. Then move Campbell to the Jets for a 2nd and 5th. Take someone like Michael Johnson in the 2nd.
by DoomsdayD75 on Apr 25, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I could honestly see
The skins giving up something ridiculous though to get up into the top 5, like every draft pick they have.
Why? They’ve done it before.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Looks like ESPN is about to take a peek inside the Dallas warroom after this commercial break.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions
Wait, maybe I was on NFLN.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
SOB!
You have me flipping back and forth haha
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Guess it was a teaser...lame.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
On another note...
I’m thinking by the end of the day I’ll have seen a preview for Star Trek about a billion times.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I wanna watch it in IMAX!
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Apr 25, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Schager has already been through his draft day hooch
This mock is horrible. I still haven’t figured out this love for Pat White. We don’t need another major wr project. Two Qb and three Wr . No DL and no LB . He should be able to afford the good stuff . This has to be ripple he was into.
Pat White is mobile QB
He’s a quicker Tony Romo. Gotta love him in the Wildcat, He’ll be starting by week 3. blah blah blah.
i never even heard of some of those guys!
what a sucky mock
by bleedinbluensilver on Apr 25, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
If we draft chung...
after every interception I believe it should be mandatory to say “everybody wang chung tonight”.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
lol
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Why oh why
Did the NFL choose to wait till 3?
Stupid.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Which of these is not like the other?
Here are a few contracts for comparison purposes:
Stafford: 6 years, $78mil, $41.7 guaranteed. $12.5 mil per year average
Manning: 7 years, $99.2 mil, $34.5 sign bonus, $14.2 mil per year average
Brady: 6 Years, $60 mil, $14.5 mil sign bonus, $13.1 mil average over first 3 years
Brees: 6 years, $60 mil, $10 mil sign bonus, $20 mil guaranteed
Romo: 6 years, $67.4 mil, $30 mil guaranteed
I
hope they fix the rookie salary issue ASAP. I’m all for people earning as much as they can, but come on …. he’s making more than Manning and Brady. Even topped Haynesworth’s contact. Wow.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Yep
Unfortunatly the players union and owners have to come to an agreement.
I think that they should adopt something closer to what the NBA has.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
You get what you can get when you get it
When were those inked?
Maaaaaaan
I do find it really funny that so many teams are going after Sanchez.
I got to watch him enough last year and the game against Oregon the year before that and I never thought of him as this awesome QB.
I’m not saying that he’s not going to be good, but he’s not a guy I saw and was like “man that guy is awesome”.
What do my fellow bloggers think?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
I've seen him
He will get a shot, might even be decent, if not he’ll be a quality backup for several years. I expect not so much Carson Palmer or Big Ben, something like Alex Smith, or Aaron Rodgers.
I don't think he's awesome, but I do think he has real potential to be a successful pro. It's crazy to me that he may go top 10.
Thin QB class?
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Catch any player names on those boards behind Jones?
I tried.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
nope.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
No gators at least...lol
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Now's the Stephen Jones thing on NFLN
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions
I think he was just saying...
what the strengths were in the second round.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
And Mayock just declared this like the worst draft ever.
Watch us trade outta today’s rounds.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
As a Cowboy draft fan, I think we’re in for disappointment, i.e. low round picks and the remaining deferred till ’10.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Apr 25, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Think beyond the player available at #20
Without that trade TO would still be our #1 WR, that’s low risk
People thought 2005 draft was sorry
Look at that draft for us…..
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
it was sorry because people misidentified the Talent
of players like Ware and Merriam
gives some hope that there maybe some real gems if you’re looking well
by AustonianAggie on Apr 25, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Yap i hope we get another draft likke 05 and 08 its possible every draft has talent
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
Shallow first round doesn't mean it's a weak draft
There are plenty of potential players out there. Maybe not elite players but every year some team hits on a UFA that sticks on the roster long term. Some of these guys grow to become expensive free agents – how much money did the Jet’s pay for the Raven’s UFA LB?
the midrounds looks solid for the cowboys this year...think this will be good overall draft
by bleedinbluensilver on Apr 25, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope we get a future stud ILB in the middle rounds
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
Is it really shallow?
I’ve read somewhere that the Boy’s have identified 23 first round prospects, which is on par with most years
by AustonianAggie on Apr 25, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think it's shallow
Several hot junior prospects had so so senior years. Last year there was a little more hype with Dorsey, Dmac, and Howie Long Jr. This year, at least at the top it just looks like take the safest player. There could be 5 LTs in the first 15 picks.
If will be an interesting second round as note of the safeties or OG are worth a first.
What happens with the Pack and Broncs both changing to the 3-4, that could cause a couple 4-3 DEs to fall.
Likewise there are questions about the second tier WRs so is Britt too slow, will Robiske climb or fall. I actually think they will both be gone by #51.
There will be trades and it adds up to a ton of uncertainty – so get them picking already!
If will be an interesting second round as note
English as a second language? I’m using a borrowed computer and can’t find the keys
That's
What I heard. Two positions safety and TE. Were the strenghth of the second round. Before that he was making a lot of sense. [ basically agreed with what has been said on BTB for weeks now.] Safety and oline positions of need and but possible values in LB and Centre.
To play what
DE/OLB, TE, H-back or special teams … If he ever specializes, look out
OLB
I’d think, but he could also be a third te on the goalline ala vrabel.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
That's it, he's the next Vrabel
The Pats will take him before Jerry gets a shot.
ok this is approaching torture. three and a half more hours till this even starts,wtf?
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Lets not be negative...
8-9 hours of drinking beer haha.
glass half full baby!
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it will be on this one, but it's offair right now.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Cool, there's a 4th and Long ad on the homepage!
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 11:54 AM CDT reply actions
Stafford's done, who's next?
Rams are on the clock – for the next 3 hours, and 10 minutes.
Its gonna be a good day my Five year old just won his first wrestling gold! Woo Hoo Zion! Now lets go Cowboys!
Total domination!!! To be fair he’s been doing BJJ for almost two years but his first tourney ever. i am pumped this will be a great weekend i can tell . Go COWBOYS!!!
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Wrestlling is fun
My dad had me doing it since i was ten it def builds character and opens up alot of schooling options.
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
Awesome dude.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 25, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks guys. he's pumped he was bribed by his grandma that if he made it thru the tournament and won gold he'd get a badass lego Crystal Minw Sweeper he's exstatic,lol.
Its amazing how well bribery works on five year olds.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
haha
Hell I’m 26 and bribery works on me. lol
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Has it started yet
This wait is killing me!!!! hope we have a very good draft, at least 4 or 5 good solid players like last year.
I can't decide if I should go to the local salsa festival
I’ll miss probably the full first round, but hey, all I care about is the Boys pick(s?)
Lot’s of hot girls and salsa’s from all over, hmmm. sigh
But.....
What if all your pet cats drop the anticapation is to much and the thrill of wating is to high
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
salsa and chicks,just keep checking in. .and what is "anticapation" sounds interesting.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
salsa and chicks?
I gotta go to your party.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee

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