Dallas Cowboys 2009 Draft: Open Thread II
by Dave Halprin on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM CDT
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Print4:56 CT -- we're at pick 17. Good pace, with teams using only around seven and a half minutes per pick. Now that we're past the big trade-speculation zones, I think the pace will pick up even more.
New open thread for the 2009 NFL draft - starting with pick #17 in the first round.
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I think...
Robiskie is becoming very realistic now.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
How can he got at the top of first?
Aren’t we past the top of the first?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
put down the coors?
How can he be drafted at the top of the first round by ANYONE?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
They don't have to trade Edwards
Pettiegrew makes sense
I Froze up to many comments to work through
It was a doozy… i dont like english that high and i think freeman is gonna go right now
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
TB had to jump denver for Freeman...
they’ve got some brass selecting him at this spot…(if they do)
He's the next best QB
Reach or not, they had to get past the Broncos. I bet they could have had Brady Quinn for less
okay,
now, we’re approaching the zone where Dallas players of interest are going to be called. English was the first.
But it’s a zero-sum game. Who’s falling?
Oher and Maclin, so far.
Where would English play on the Boys?
Behind Ware or behind Spencer. Don’t we still have Ellis? I don’t think OLB was an option at 51
i agree
I still want Sean smith or alphonso smith
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
They needed a QB, they reached for a prospect
He might become something in time, but I would try hard to trade with the Bucs because they will most likely suck near term
Man...
I think Freeman is a good dude, but thats such a reach IMO.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
i think it was a good move for tampa
but still a reach
I thank God everyday i wasnt born a Eagles fan!!!!!!
at least the coach knows him...recruited him to K State...
I personally had him as a third round talent…but has upside…
TB gave up nothing for the pick
What does that old silly draft chart say about that
I don't have it memorized but it's only two mid-round spots
It cost them a potential player, but makes room for a UFA and they get the QB they wanted
yep
he’s a big SOB thats for sure.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Reminds me too much of....
Tony Banks!!
by ButchJohnson on Apr 25, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Denver should go LB-Maualuga LB-Matthews, or OLB-Everett Brown........
Ayers is not big enough to play 3-4 DE….bad move..
time for the annual DB run
which always seems to start around pick 18 or so. Malcolm Jenkins, Vontae Davis.
One of them is going to the Eagles
Philly would be tempted by wells.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
He would be a perfect complement
That would suck
now averaging a pick every 6.5 minutes
love it.
Keep picking, people. Hand in your card and keep going.
Ayers went to Tennessee
So that makes his chances of being arrested to go up.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Maybe...
But they also need a running back/wr/anything really haha.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
He's probably celebrating
with an ounce of coke on his way to the strip club.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
maclin, davis, oher
biggest droppers at the moment.
Oher's still around?
After last draft, he was the top rated LT, I guess those short arms are dragging him down
thank god im back
i lost my laptop power cord… but i just found it and im back… fast draft so far, lovin it… only 32 more picks… unless jerry goes jerry on us and trades up haha
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions
i wouldn't mind if they stayed...
but i wouldn’t mind if they traded up cause we have so many picks…
as long as we don’t take a project and take someone who will contribute i’ll be happy
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 25, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Mock drafts
Are really accurate. rolls eyes
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
haha
Cleveleland is cracking me up.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
im loving what they are doing
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
the first round grades are running out
which means we’re going to see a lot of surprising picks in the next dozen or so.
cause draft boards tend to diverge when you get into the second round.
all the mocks are going to look like goulash in the next hour or so.
philly has a lot of speed now at the wr core
i really hope we pick up a coverage safety
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 25, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope McNabb stinks it up next year
Philly added a ProBowl LT along with DeSean Jackson from last year.
That's kind of what I thought too.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
ick...
not good, not good for the boys
Tom Grieve is my hero.
don't forget
kevin curtis isn’t slow by any count
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
there are so many offensive plays in a game
they wont all beat us. We’ll just have to make sure that we get pressure on McNabb
+1billion
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
for real
+1squillion
Come on jerry dont let me down
by yesAlanTuring on Apr 25, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Andy Reid recreates the Smurfs
can’t fault the value of this pick
I get it but I don't get it...
He’s good value, but don’t you get macklin also as a return man… um isn’t that what d jax is for?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
lol
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't
Oher make a lot of sense for Detroit here?
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Who is left
that we gave up for R. Williams?
Dumb dumb dumb
no OL, a starter at LT sitting there, and they pick a TE
Tom Grieve is my hero.
apparently
nobody does
I thought he was supposed to be better than this.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Pettigrew is really really good...
but thats a weird pick for Detroit.
That’s more of a luxury pick to me.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
that's a board pick
Oher is the big dropper this year.
The way he plays
is alot like Witten honestly.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
I honestly was glad
Philly didn’t get Pettigrew.
I think that Pettigrew is just so complete.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
If not
he could fall into the second.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
scratch that
he’d go to arizona
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Lions need everything
is TE the best starting point after QB?
Schwartz is a former scout
and from what I heard he’s not a dummy.
Pettegrew was probably the highest player on Det’s board at that spot.
They need players, lots of them. With their talent level, who cares where they get players, so long as they’re good ones.
i would not mind at all
if jerry traded up to like 28 or so to take ray mauaulaga if he sliips that far…. i would actually like that a lot
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 25, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions
The Steelers
have to be praying for Oher.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Hmmmm.
not a bad pick.
Told you, guys Dallas likes are going to start moving.
- English; Mack
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Browns 1st Round?
Can someone give me a breakdown on what they have traded each time?
So...why is John Hart still being paid?
LOL
dont’ know why the line went through English’s name.
no, Unger will be gone by 40.
would not shock me if he went before 32
Can he stay out of jail?
Or out of the drug program? He’s already got 1 strike.
Very, very surprising. HIgh upside. But huge risk
And you also said
Laurinitas would go in the top 20
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
I think
that’s a goooooood pick for the vikes.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
I hope somebody takes Harvin
good.
If he’s not on Dallas’ board, I want somebody else taking him in round one.
He may be.. but I don't want him on my team.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll take a flyer on him late in FF
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
apparently. I think the steelers are salivating over him right now.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
interested to see what
bellichic does without pioli this year
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 25, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions
Vikes
Do you think the Vikes ever throw the ball more than 10 yards down the field this year? Peterson running the ball and Harvin working underneath.
No, this happens
Flozell was in the books at around 14-15 in’ 98 and slid to the early 2nd.
You know, I heard from somebody who worked with the Eagles that
they did not believe in taking WRs in the 1st. The only time they’re broken that rule
in the Reid/Banner era they got Freddie Mitchell.
Here’s hoping…
To me thats the most surprising pick of the draft
You can understand every other one. Crazy Al and DHB is probably the worst pick. But the most wild one off the radar is Mackin to the Eagles.
the browns will trade back in for matthews
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jerry said there is a scenario where the boys would trade up
anyone have any clue as to what that would be>???
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 25, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
dude, Soto's rockin for a sports newsie!
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I've never seen her. She on ESPN?
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
good idea
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
wow, just checked her out --she is pretty
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he trades up into the early 2nd
he said he didn’t want a first round pick because of the salary difficulties this year (different rules before an uncapped year.)
I’ll bet if a guy with a 1st round grade is on the board at 33, they start making some calls.
they gave 23 1st round grades in the Dallas war room this year.
who, still on the board, strikes you as 1st-grade material?
Mauluaga maybe,
cause he would fit a Dallas need.
right now, looking at Gosselin’s board, Vontae Davis and Beanie Wells are the droppers.
Mauluaga is a compositie 25, which means he may have one of Dallas’ last #1s.
I think New England has a target on Barwin
early in the 2nd.
right, but NE has the 34th and what, 44th picks?
they could snag both of them.
tuna selects the next LB bust...lol
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definitely
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
perfect fit for Sparano's team...
I’d play him at FS….but that’s me…
he'll push TO around all day!
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Larry English aside
I’m not seeing any crazy reaches yet.
No Al Davis pick can be considered crazy.
Al Davis lives to defy mock drafts.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Even though the Tyson Jackson pick was an expected pick
I don’t think he is a top 15 prospect let alone a top 3
Yeehaw!
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
hey, we're going nine picks and hour
not bad at all.
WR run
when you think the next run on WR’s begins, Britt, Nicks, Massaquoi and Robiskie still out there
at the very, very end of the round,
when the Giants start it.
but we may be in a lull.
pack should take ron brace..lol
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nice pick
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
He'll get those shaved off in a rookie hazing.
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
that guy was all over the field all the time
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember the guy who kept saying
no way does matthews go before laurinitas?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
he even beat maluga
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
me2
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
let's trade up for him!
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
as painful it is Matthews went before Laurinitis....but thats the Packers.....
I never thought Matthews would go before Mauluga like many..
Terry you were right on that one…. ughhhhhh…
the composite board is looking good
Beanie Wells is the only dropper so far.
yep he's
a cardinal, that makes almost too much sense
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
wow- rb to the colts??
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
rhodes is in buffalo, but wow addai is still there
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
yeah, Addai,
that’s the guy.
That’s two 1sts for RBs in the last what, three years?
i really thought they would go defense
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
addai was banged up last season too.
they had nobodies playing behind him and this kid looks really good.
They trying to get that rotation back.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
excellent back
but what’s wrong with what’s his name, who starts for them?
I Officially Hate the Cowboys
Big Game Tony will never win a game. Jerry Jones is the worst GM in football. The Roy Williams trade is killing us. Why can’t we be more like the Green Bay Packers or Pittsburgh Steelers???? I’d like to say that someone logged into my computer and was writing this for me, but this is now the cold, hard reality of our team that will be in a fast decline. The Cowboys are dead to me.
by Cowboy Louie on Apr 25, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
Yeehaw!
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Louie...who in the world do you think we missed out on over WR-Roy Williams ???
nobody in this first round was better than Roy Williams after the first 10 picks or so……
every team needs a rotation at rb
even the vikings need a rotation
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 25, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
dont let the door hit ya
where the good lord split ya
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
TO will be yelling at him this year
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it was a ton
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by bulldog jeeper on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
two polish sausages and some clam chowder
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
i could go for that right now...
all this beer is making me hungry
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 25, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
GB - Pat trade
why is it whenever the Pats make a trade they seem to get more than any other team can? there’s a conspiracy theory somewhere there
nooooooooo!
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Giants should pick Ryan Leaf
I think he’s still under 40.
hakeem nicks is my favorite wr
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
Yep
Not like they don’t need to be good anyways.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
+1
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
i knew it, not good for us imo
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
not scurred of that pick
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Except for Fitzgerald.
But everyone has problems with him.
true
We better get Sean Smith
Come on jerry dont let me down
by yesAlanTuring on Apr 25, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
bet the Pats take Sean Smith at 34
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Maluga to Tenn or Pitt
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I don't think
People want to give him the contract he wants
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
So at what pick do you start trying to move up,
And grab Sean Smith or Connor Barwin?
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
That seems reasonable,
I think you have to get in front of New England’s second rounder if you want your pick of the two.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
36
The Browns are all about moving down.
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
we can get whoever we want at 36 and we have a ton of trade history w/Cle
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Trade Up
Do you really like those guys so much that you’re willing to give up extra draft picks for them?
Yeah, especially Smith
We have 11 picks in this draft. We won’t draft 11 guys. If you can give up one or two of those late rounders to get in position for Sean Smith, I think you do it.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Yeah, we have hella picks
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
was there any doubt ??
Brace is mid 3rd talent….
+2
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
no wya
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
no way
how many first rounder rb’s are they going to pick?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
maybe
ten traded to someone who is picking up beanie
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 25, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
who would trade edwards or boldin
for lendale white?
it would be LenDale and a third rounder I would think.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
maclin cannot run routes....
he is somewhat a project but will help in special teams immediately…eagles should have taken pettigrew though ..thank you philly
whats espn doing?
They made it sound like a lock that TEN was taking wells.
Britts not a bad pick/
you're questioning ESPN's analysis and coverage?
say it ain’t so…
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by bulldog jeeper on Apr 25, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
NFL Network
I dunno, NFL Network has disappointed me so far… they seem to go to commercial WAY more than ESPN
Yeah, they see some value...gonna own the next few hours
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
let Jerry wheel and deal
just let Stephen make the pick
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by bulldog jeeper on Apr 25, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
NE is being smart
I like the 2nd, 3rd and even 4th round talent.
This draft lacks firepower at the top but is deep.
That’s why I don’t want Dallas moving up. Keep all your picks in those rounds.
maybe
but as you can see, this board is getting impatient…
okay, maybe it’s just me
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by bulldog jeeper on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, I want to move up with a couple 5s or 6s for maybe another 2nd and 3rd
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
the network is losing money and it is not getting any better this year, hence, more commercials.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Cowboys War Room
quiet!!
"Out of need springs desire, and out of desire springs the energy and the will to win."
32. Steelers: Ziggy Hood
Discuss.
And that ends my first round commish duties announcing the picks. I’ll keep the open threads going. Wow, on to the second round. We’ll finally get a pick.
Note from dallascowboys.com
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones just did an interview with the NFL Network, and stopped by to talk to local reporters afterward, hinting that the way the draft is following, the Cowboys could trade up.
"Out of need springs desire, and out of desire springs the energy and the will to win."
4 realz
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by bulldog jeeper on Apr 25, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Whisky Wade Needs to Go
When are you all going to understand that this team needs an overhaul? Every year we have the most talented roster and we just don’t get the mileage out of our star, overpaid players. Phillips is not the answer. Tony Romo is regressing under his and Garrett’s “tutleage”. Phillips should have to pay for his seat, cause all he’s doing is spectating. Those last 5 games of the year should be nice for the Cowpokes. Another late season swoon is on the horizon. Jerry Jones is becoming the next Al Davis. The star needs to be rescued. Who will it be?? I’m done with this!!!!
by Cowboy Louie on Apr 25, 2009 7:03 PM CDT reply actions
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