Dallas Cowboys 2009 Draft (Day 2): Open Thread III
by Dave Halprin on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM CDT
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Print[UPDATE]: The Cowboys trade up to pick #143 and selected DeAngelo Smith, CB, Cincinnati
NFL Draft Countdown on DeAngelo Smith
[UPDATE]: The Cowboys traded pick #117 to the Bucs, moving down to pick #120 and receiving a 7th rounder (#229).
With the 120th pick, the Cowboys select: Brandon Williams, OLB, Texas Tech
NFL Draft Countdown on Brandon Williams
New open thread for the Cowboys draft starting in the middle of the 4th round.
Cowboys haul so far:
#69: Jason Williams, ILB, Western Illinois
#75: Robert Brewster, T/G, Ball State
#101: Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M
#110: Victor Butler, OLB, Oregon State
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Maybe we'll get a 3rd next year or something
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions
More likely a 7 ><
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by Conjunction on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
that would be sweet
Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon
scouts must really think this years draft is weak
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
tb was three picks behind us
wonder if we got that pick and a pick next year?
Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon
Ugh
Could have gotten Boltus in the 6th instead of McGee
Sammie Lee was there in the 4th
Rashad Johnson, Meredith, Sidbury, Moore…
Pathetic.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
There's a reason EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL has passed on these guys...
Johnson, OK…
Meredith, Sidbury, and Moore? The hell are you bitching about, really?
Victor Butler?
I’m sure no one was passing on him.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I'll take it.
Line, LB, and QB depth all places we need depth. I hope we can snag some secondary help. We have 4 solid /wrs, we just need a punter returner.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
where did we go with that one, Tampa still has #120
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
we like drafting after chicago
and so they get the players we want, lol. I hope we have a lot of good picks in the 5th
JJones
He gets far too cute with all the trades. Always has
our guys keep getting picked before us
we have all these picks and are not using them to go get our guys. Jerruh is getting taken out to the wood shed far too many times.
Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon
HE chose not to move up...
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
It takes two to dance
And if he had given out an arm and a leg to move up, he’d be getting beaten to death on this blog for making trades with poor value.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Instead
he trades down and gets less than market value?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I'm not saying I'm thrilled with it
But he didn’t want to pay second round money to a guy he didn’t want
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
looks like we at least got 120
please plus something next year
oh we're at 120 now
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:10 PM CDT reply actions
Sure took awhile for that to change, I was getting anxious
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
This is a really unveventful draft.
If it really does end up helping special teams it would almost be worth it.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
I hope so.
I didn’t say that it was worthless, I just am a little suprised with some of these picks.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
having Felix Jones on the field
is taking advantage of Felix Jones. If I’m a defense I’m more worried whenever MBII/Choice, Jones and Romo are on the field rather than Jones and McGee
not really
mcgee will scare teams cause he can run and pass… a step below pat white
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I like McGee
I really do, but I just don’t think he’ll be able to come in as a rookie and scare teams. He’ll need a few years to develop and by that time he’ll be a pocket passer with some mobility… similar to Tony Romo. I just don’t see him as a great Wildcat QB as a rookie.
sounds cool!
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW
I told you Delmas would be gone at #51
Maybe McKillop in the 5th?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Jason Williams is the ILB
Dallas went ILB first.
He’s a much, much better prospect than McKillop.
by Rafael Vela on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on how bad Tampa wanted that Moore kid
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
According to the Draft Chart
The difference between 117 and 120 is only six points. That’s a late seventh round pick.
229 overall
Damn we have lots of late picks – at some point it becomes unwieldy and I fear diminishing returns
by I_miss_Switzer on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
13 picks now?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
not if we slide behind chicago
only to have them screw us again
Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon
lol
what is the point of that trade? its another dart and hopefully we dont miss out on another guy we wanted
Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon
chicago is up...so they might steal another from us right before our pick
by VTcowboys16 on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
there are three
gilbert, iglesias and moore
the point is that we have MANY options here... so Jerry is saying to you: "who cares"
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
I'd think maybe New Orleans or Chicago wanted that dude that Tampa picked.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
stop/.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
by ivysafety39 on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Not until we have a nose tackle
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Terrance Taylor from Michigan has potential
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
What I've learned so far...
Prepare to be underwhelmed at each pick.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
What I've learned so far...
Not to listen to 5Blings
yea, exactly... unless you prefer rain
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
there goes value
dj moore to chicago
Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon
Moore
good pick for them.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
yeah, he would have been nice
a poor man’s scandrick, but a little slower. Would have been solid depth though.
C'mon Cowboys!!!
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions
List your humorous predictions here!
Me first: The unconceived child of Lebron James.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
Michael Jordon's chef
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Since we're drafting for depth
I’ll go with Duke
Why can't we be like the Patriots?
Awesome picks, and trading third round picks for second rounders next year.
Pathetic
we get ANOTHER pick in this draft.
Again, why keep getting picks at the bottom of a crappy draft.
i hope we pick up terrance taylor
then scott mckillop… we would have a dominate run defense, with a very stellar secondary in tnew, jenkins scandrick sensi and hamlin… hopefully no injuries
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions
Another vanderblt player to the Bears
That makes like 5 or 6. lol
Notice
Duke R., Sidbury, Brinkley are all still there.
me2
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Trade down out of the 7th?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Can you be positive for once
There’s a lot of value in the 8th and 9th rounds this year.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
a thousand commercial breaks
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions
Idiotic
What a dumb draft. I think we’ve gotten NOBODY that will do anything in ’09. That means. Our “upgrades” for the year are Sensabaugh, Olsh and Brookings…oh and Austin as our #2.WR
Drum Roll!
I live and die with the Dallas Cowboys
It'll be a cheer leader from Ball State
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Please Brinkley
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
what's the holdup?
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions
brandon williams
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions
DE texas tech
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions
is this a 34 DE?
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
nfl.com
says brandon williams
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
yeah, really
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
I liked the idea of drafting Williams – but 2 DE/OLB’s when we already have 3 good ones?
I think we’ll carry 9 OLB’s this year because only having rookes behind Ware and Spencer seems a bit rash.
by The 11th VP on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
How many slow ones do we need?
You should have to be over 300 pounds to run a 5.0 40. I’m getting hung up on 40-times, but what else do we have right now?
If a guy is 250 and slower than your average high school player, he’s not worth a pick. I’m usually the relentless optimist here, but come on.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
I like that pick
quite alot actually.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
I like that we are securing the most important position on D
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
HUH??
Okay, I’ve been supportive, but we’ve yet to pick ANYONE up the middle – NT / ILB / SS???
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Doesn't Williams
project inside?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
you havent seen an ILB?
like our #69 pick perhaps?
Williams is the ILB
they took him first.
by Rafael Vela on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
3 time all Big 12
Bye Greg Ellis, its been real. No way does he stay now.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
I wouldn't doubt we would do something stupid like that.
But I’d rather see Spencer replaced.
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Spencer is too young to replace
Like it or not, if you read the tea leaves here. Spencer is now our starter at OLB
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
really? why? all he's done is step in as a rook and hold his own well
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
I'm all for that
5 guys with at least 6 sacks, with Ware leading the charge with 24
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
and hopefully getting some recognition
Not that Harrison wasn’t great, but Ware was the BEST defensive player in the league last year. Just because his team wasn’t as successful doesn’t mean Harrison should have gotten the DMVP.
all the talk about his 7 forced fumbles, with barely any mention of Ware’s 5 (not to mention more sacks and Ware can drop back in coverage)
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Perhaps
but you can have too few NT and S.
by I_miss_Switzer on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
ESPN insider...Williams....on a scale of 1-5, 1 being the best
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=24745
Production 2 2006: Williams appears in 11 games as a true freshman and records 16 tackles including 3.5 sacks. He breaks up one pass. 2007: Williams starts 11 of the 12 games he appears in recording 41 tackles including 11.5 tackles-for-loss. He forces three fumbles and recovers one fumble. 2008: Williams starts all 12 games and records 21 tackles including 12.5 tackles-for-loss and 11 sacks. He forces three fumbles and breaks up three passes.
Height-Weight-Speed 4 Adequate-to-good height but needs to bulk up to play defensive end or move to rush linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. Combine 40 time was poor but he plays faster than that result indicates.
Durability 2 Durability is not an issue to our knowledge but lack of size puts him somewhat at risk.
Character 3 No off-the-field issues to our knowledge.
Defensive End specific Traits
Agility/Quickness 2 Better agility than Combine numbers reflect. Reads movement and explodes off the ball. Shows above-average closing speed in pursuit. But he does show some tightness in the hips, he struggles to change directions in space and he will likely have a difficult time matching up in coverage if moved to outside linebacker.
Strength/Toughness 4 Plays from the snap until the whistle and fights to get off blocks. Lacks ideal lower body strength and gets driven back at times. Undersized and can get engulfed by bigger offensive linemen.
Instincts 2 Finds the ball quickly and rarely caught out of position. Shows above-average awareness and does a nice job of sniffing out draws as well as screens.
Pass Rusher 2 Quick enough to turn the corner and shows above-average closing speed when gets a clear run at the quarterback. Can set offensive tackles up to the outside and then swim or spin back inside. Ball-hawk that looks to knock the ball loose when gets to the quarterback.
Run Stopper 4 At his best when on the move. Shows quick hands and long arms, which if used properly can help him keep blockers off his body. Possesses the lateral mobility necessary to get down the line and fill cutback lanes. However, he possesses marginal strength and really struggles to hold his ground when teams run at him. He typically takes far too long to shed the block.
Yeah...
I agree, if you are going to stack up at any position either make it corner or OLB
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
revolutionary defense
1-6 defense.
4 pass rushing LBs at a time.
this is insane. we had so many needs unfilled.
I can only guess they like many prospects equally at NT and SS and ILB??
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
It was a really weak
year at NT.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
yea, this is what i am thinking too
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Brandon Williams scouting report
http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/Brandon-Williams.php
Defensive End | Junior | Texas Tech Brandon Williams
Height: 6-21/2 | Weight: 261 | 40-Time: 4.92
Official Bio
Strengths:
Excellent athleticism…Great explosion with a burst…Nice agility and balance…Very quick off the snap…Can really bend off the edge…Does a nice job in pursuit. .Good range…Pretty productive…Still has upside.
Weaknesses:
Just average size and bulk…Lacks great timed speed…Not very strong or powerful…Isn’t stout at the point of attack…Not a very good run defender…Struggles to shed blockers…Motor?..Isn’t fluid in coverage.
Notes:
A three-year starter for the Red Raiders…Named 1st Team All-Big 12 in 2008 and led the conference in sacks…Came out as a junior but probably would have been better off staying in school…Has some tools to work with but was quite a bit smaller and slower than expected at the Scouting Combine…Classic one-dimensional pass rush specialist who could excel in a situational role in a 4-3 scheme at the next level.
Nice. Could this guy possibly be moved to ILB?
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
oakland is up in two picks...
and im getting a call… hold on guys
Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon
Trade all of ours for all of theirs
It really won’t matter…
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
you want me to be a cowboy?
that would matter, I run the 40 in 4.4…. minutes
Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon
4.92 forty?
Maybe he can sneak up on he QB.
I live and die with the Dallas Cowboys
yeah, scared me
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
ESPN sucks
apparently WE took Kyle Moore at 117, not Tampa Bay
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
espn just said we took kyle moore
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions
has anyone read what Si says about the players the Cowboys have chosen?
Jason Williams Free Agent
Robert Brewster 3-5 round
Stephen McGee 4th round
Victor Butler 7th round
I hope they are wrong as this might go down as the worst draft in JJ’s history ..
That would be saying something
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
jason williams = free agent? what?
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
See How Many
of the players they graded as 3rd rounders go undrafted…
Reporters’ ties with draft prospect ends today, teams have to pay them…so who do you think is actually doing their homework?
Even Mel Kiper doesn’t have as much riding on the draft as a team does. Accordingly, his opinion is less valuable.
OBVIOUS EXCEPTION: Raiders.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
when's our next pick?
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Nice a little relaxation time and then it gets intense again
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Garrett needs some toys...he's gotta be bored.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions
oh, the raiders get lou murphy
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions
Higgins, DHB and Murphy
Fastest trio in the NFL.
And then, they have…Jamarcus.
LOL
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Not a Safety in the bunch...wow!!!
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I'm betting we trade back before 156
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Which holes?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Linebacker depth, and
Linebacker depth
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Plus depth
at the linebacker position
by I_miss_Switzer on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
How did I miss that?
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Not to mention backups for
Brooking, Ware, and Spencer
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Speed.
where’s the speed? If we’re drafting for Special Teams you gotta think the next few picks will be guys with good speed.
yeah...
but the other LBs (OLBs) are slow. Especially Brandon Williams.
He’s too slow to be on a college kickoff team, let alone NFL.
UNLESS…is there a new strategy (in response to the new wedge rules) to have a slow guy hang back?
Kidding of course.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Before the draft he trained hard on his time
And ran a 4.6-4.7 time and send the videos to coaches all around the League.
It’s been said, many times, that the 40 is one of those measurables that you take as a grain of salt because not everybody runs with the technique required to have a good time. It’s likely that he was asked by teams to train and send videos of his newer times.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
no i'm not kidding you
we need more than one guy with speed on special teams. Who are our gunners on punts? With the new rules against wedge blockers we need guys who can get down the field and tackle. Williams is one, yes, now we need more.
I think its safe to say we are done taking olbs
at least I hope so
Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon
there goes sidbury
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
How about a Punt Returner
We are in Skyler Green’s talent range here.
My dog is 11
and is in Skyler’s talent range
by I_miss_Switzer on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't know Sklyer could lick his own ass
by The 11th VP on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but like my dog
chooses not to.
by I_miss_Switzer on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we RE-DRAFT him???
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I'll run out of vomit long before that
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
hehe
oakland took a guy named Slade.
Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon
now, we should trade for roscoe parrish and chill till 166
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions
Wane McGarrity
is our next pick
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Goose says the Cowboys did nothing while the NFC East
accelerated past them.
No shocker
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
He says that every year!
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
We're going to look at this draft and
wonder why we ignored safety needs and CB depth. MARK MY WORDS!!!
Add Orakpo and Haynseworth to Wash...
Dallas looks like it misses the playoffs again.
The good news?
We are 309 days away from Mike Shanahan becoming Head Coach.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
i don't want another old HC
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
See you in 2010
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Al and Jerry...Jerry and Al
The two mummies running football teams into the ground.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Dude
I’m not gonna tell you how to be a fan, but you’re gonna have an ulcer.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Wow
Raiders draft=epic fail…even for Crazy Al this one is really “special”
I’m glad they all have to wear helmets anyway…lol
just threw on the Romo jersey
maybe that will help us get a WR or TE
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions
sweet. let's get a FB
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't wait
for Jerrah’s victorious press conference where he brags on how everybody we wanted dropped down to us. LOL.
I think we are going to look at the cuts closely...
I think the team does not see a value in a rookie safety..maybe there is an experienced safety out there getting cut after training camp
alright guys im out of here
nice chatting with most of you. Solid draft, nothing spectacular and remember just because some teams in our division had a nice draft, doesnt mean we had a bad one. Cant control what other teams do.
Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon
Damn! I knew we should have taken Slade Norris
before the Raiders stole him.
Check out his profile… looks like one of Jerrah’s high round picks.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/slade-norris?id=238421
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't like players with interchangeable first and last names
spooky…
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Like Gaines Adams?
Thats wierd.
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Can Adams be a first name?
How about Oliver Ross?
That’s just wrong…
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
James Casey
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the plan is to trade Ellis for a safety. Why else would we draft all of these OLB.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
because every team
is looking for a 33 year old whiner?
possible
they are either preparing for Elli’s successor next year, or preparing to ship him out this year
because Ellis is old
and he’s not an every down LB any more.
They have Ware, Spencer and an Ellis held together with duct tape.
They added two pass rushers.
by Rafael Vela on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, Im just stirring the masses. This may turn out to be a very good draft
Its just that most of these guys I dont know well and it feels like a let down in April. I told you earlier in the year we would get ripped by the local dumbass media for our draft because we didnt have a 1st. Eagles with 2 1st picks would be the medai darlings and the guy in NY is loved by the east coast media. I know I should ignore it but I wont be able to completely do that with out shutting off football. I just wish I knew these guys better.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
Which double-digit NFL sacker can we replace Ellis with?
They guy with the 4.9 40?
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Victoria Butler!!!
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
When Butler is stud in TC, are you gonna eat these words?
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
I dont have a clue. Im trying to rationalize this draft. Can we bring back RW1?
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
Bill Cosby is one crazy SOB
What is he doing on ESPN right now, besides making Erin Andrews very uncomfortable
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
It really seems like whenever the draft is getting dull, they cut to Erin sitting with Bill Cosby
And he’s blabbering incoherently, or wearing a Temple football helmet while he sits with his new friend that went to Texas.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
EAGLES? GIANTS?
I think the Eagles shat the bed a little bit. They should have taken Beanie Wells instead of ANOTHER #2 or #3 receiver. How many of those mediocre guys can you have on the field at the same time? Is Maclin even going to be better than Hank Basket or Jason Avant this year? I doubt it. They now have DeSean (a #2) and a Bunch of #3s.
Even if Roy disappoints, he’s still the best receiver in the NFC east right now.
McCoy is small (Between Booker, Westbrook and McCoy, there’s STILL not a guy who can get that 3rd and 1). Letting go of Buckhalter was dumb, but not replacing him with a big enough guy…even dumber. Eagles have a massive O-Line and still can’t get a yard when they need it. That will not change this year.
The Giants got good value in Beatty and Sintim (and may have found something with Ramses Barden for some point in the future) BUT, without Plaxico (or Toomer for that matter), they’re going to need a whole lot more if they want to keep passing off Eli as a real QB. Even in “his” super bowl win, he just threw up a bunch of shitty jump balls. Hakeem Nicks going to bring those down like Plex? NO!!!!!!
So, an interesting comparison since the Eagles and Giants picked WRs first. Will Maclin OR Nicks be as good as Roy Williams? That’s how to compare these drafts.
As Raf has continuously pointed out, getting a good WR in the first is tough and the Cowboys got one who has led the NFC in receiving. What have Nicks or Maclin done?
Moreover, I hate the Eagles….and the Giants…All three Dallas RBs are better than LeSeam McCoy.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Delusional
Nicks is strong and explosive. Sintim is a beast.
Maclin is a threat to score every time he touches the ball. We had trouble with DeSean Jackson in double coverage. Now, Dallas has not drafted a center fielder and you put another burner opposite Jackson?
You’re nuts and letting your hatred skew your sense of reality.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
No, you let yourself become delusional by mediot draftniks
You need to lay off the draftnik coolaid. They all have an inbred criticism if teams don’t follow their board.
There’s only so many elite prospects, but you seem to think we could/should take every one.
Lay off the malt liquor, dude.
Res firma mitescere nescit
Right
because of Jerry’s history of great drafts?
I’m asking why we took these people. You’re just a minnow who gets swallowed up in your love for WHATEVER Dallas does.
When you come out of your trance, let us know.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Very Possible
I might be skewing reality, but if Nicks was a sure-fire #1 (which they had in Plaxico and could have had in Edwards, why didn’t he get picked in the top 10?)
I agree that Sintim was a good pick, but I just think that COMPARED TO LAST YEAR and COMPARED TO OTHER POSSIBLE COURSES OF ACTION (Boldin/Edwards?) Nicks doesn’t scare me.
Would you rather the Eagles and Giants drafted who they did or that we have to face Boldin and Edwards twice a year each? I think it’s pretty obvious that you’d rather play against Nicks and Maclin…just saying.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Bling .... honestly, you are a bit delusional...
Nicks was the Tar Heels #2 receiver starting THIS YEAR … he is good, but I was surprised a circus catch and a few other bowl catches earns him a 1st round pick… good for him, but just as easily could be a bust.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
There are SOOO many
WRs who look the part…only a few can play. On draft day…they all look the part. We know that Roy can do more than be tall, run a 40 and play fairly well in the ACC!
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Teetering
Help me man, help me!!
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
LOL but serious... step away from the ledge
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
I personally think the Giants are having a helluva draft....
….Hakeem Nicks is known for making bad ass catches.
Plus, Maclin to the Eagles damn near ruined my day yesterday. Dude is friggin awesome.
In College
Are you saying you’d rather have Maclin or Nicks over Roy Williams?
I’ll bet on Roy having as many (or close to it) catches, yards and TDs as the other two combined.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
You're smokin'
Giants and Eagles destroyed this draft
Come on jerry dont let me down
by yesAlanTuring on Apr 26, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
If Jerry's fast we could get another 7th
by The 11th VP on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Oakland is willing to talk
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Same as Jamarcus Russell's...
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Just send Felix to run Ellis's 40 for him
Al will never notice.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Trade him to Browns for Elam....
I think Elam could easily start for us
by thejanusman on Apr 26, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Who starts at OLB?
Spencer?? He’s a joke. The 4.9 40 OLB?
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Spencer is defintely an upgrade over Ellis
by thejanusman on Apr 26, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
What??? Did you watch the Cowboys the last 2 years???
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 26, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly...
Whenever he was on the field with Ware…he was more than adequate…it is for no simple reason that his playing time has increased…
by thejanusman on Apr 26, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Remind me
What did Ellis do last year?
Didn’t exactly light it up…
Hell, didn’t Bradie have as many or more sacks than Ellis?
Because Spencer played the passing downs...
When Ellis wasn’t assigned to cover the flat… And he still got 8 sacks… More than Spencer will ever have in a season.
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 26, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Wrong again! Spencer was the 1st and 2nd down player.
Ellis didnt rush as much but he was the passing down LB.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
Because of Ware on the opposite side...
Anyone on the other end be it Ellis or Spencer will get to the QB…now the question is do you value the upside with spencer
Not if they dont send him and they didnt send him they sent Bradie more that cut into Ellis totals
Not a problem because Bradie got there and made them pay.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
My period button is sticking, sorry.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
He had 8 sacks
Tied with Bradie, but jeez, they were both tied for 2nd on the team.
Ware and Ellis was the best tandem in football last year.
Res firma mitescere nescit
QUANTITY over QUALITY
has certainly been the Eagles’ motto this offseason. They signed like 5 safeties, in hopes that they’ll be able to perform some Frankenstein experiment to replace Dawkins.
Now they’re doing the same thing with WR. instead of trading that 1st for Boldin, they take just another guy…
Am I letting my love of the Cowboys cloud my judgment? Just saying…you can only put 11 players on the field at a time. The Eagles will have depth, but if no one gets hurt, what’d they need all those guys for?
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Giants too
they added depth to an already great dline – but lets be real, bernard and canty aren’t going to take too many plays away from tuck, robbins and alfordunless the giants plan on getting worse. Those moves were made for 2010, when robbins and alford are FAs and neither are likely to be resigned. Canty has potential at that DT spot, but giving a guy that much money to play a position you ahven’ seen him play…thats crazy.
They also now have like 5 very young receivers drafted in the top 3 rounds on their roster, all of whihc have proven NOTHING.
If new york or philly traded for edwards or boldin, i’d be scared right now. but they didn’t. As I said yesterday – if Romo gets on the same page with Roy and they get a good connection, we will have had a far better “draft” than either of them
They got Peters and Andrews for o-line help
They won’t need a big back, they’ll push the pile 5 yards at a time.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
If you're Ratliff, you gotta wonder why Dallas hasn't picked a true NT
He must fear for his life right about now.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
because he is the shiznit that is why
and has GREAT explosion at the combine he weighed in at 326 and had a 35.5 vertical
They've had the other Andrews (shawn) for a while now
And last year (in Shawn’s absence) wasn’t the first time they couldn’t run on 3rd and 1. They haven’t been able to do that since Reid got there.
Their O-Line is scary this year, but the backs still have to get it done. If Westbrook couldnt get a yard behind andrews, runyan, thomas and co, what makes you think he can do it behind peters, stacy andrews and a depressed Shawn Andrews coming off a back injury…and Westbrook is older now.
Stacy andrews destroyed his knee last year and Shawn Andrews hurt his back and is rumored to be an emotional mess (a depressed fat guy is probably getting fatter, too…if he comes to camp at 400, you heard it here first…maybe you heard it somewhere else, too)
All I’m saying is… they got ANOTHER #2 instead of a true #1, WHICH WAS PROBABLY AVAILABLE TO THEM with the SAME PICK. AND passed on a need with a RB who can move the chains in short yardage.
I guess the new Fullback is the X-Factor for 3rd and 1s now and we’ll see if he can help them out, I’m hoping he can’t and until they prove otherwise or address the RB position, I’ll presume they still can’t get that yard.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Dude
They beat us 44-6 in the most meaningful game of the season.
They put up 60 points on us in 2 games and just got the 2nd best WR in the draft.
What are you talking about?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I dont get excited abut our WRs(drafted) or depressed about their(drafted) WRs until I actually see them do something in the NFL.
Its way to early to for the annoiting oil.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
They sure did
I didn’t say the Eagles weren’t a good team last year. They played amazing football in the second half of the season. They were DRIVEN (largely by Dawkins-who’s GONE) and played harder than just about every team in the league.
What I did say is:
1. Drafting Maclin wasn’t the great move you think it is
can you show me how that 2nd best receiver in the draft makes them better? NO
Will he even get on the field this year? Probably…
Will he be as good as DeSean was last year? Probably not…
Will he be as good as Anquan? ABSOLUTELY NOT…
2. Eagles can’t get 3rd and 1s
Just true. McCoy doesn’t help them there. Nor does Maclin. Wells would have. I’m sure Eagles fans wanted Wells (with good reason). I’ve already made a good case for Stacy Andrews and Peters not changing that (They already had Runyan, Andres and Thomas and have NEVER been able to get the short yardage b/c of the running backs they have)
3. Peters is an upgrade-Just is. Better than Tra Thomas
So basically…their major needs in my opinion (short yardage running, defensive leadership/safety) have not been addressed whereas they add another WR who will not catch more than 50 passes. Look at the Eagles’ receiving corps. Their all good (Hank Basket and Jason Avant shit on us all the time) but no one is great. Maclin is another good receiver………….while likely an upgrade over AVANT or HANK, is he as MUCH OF AN UPGRADE as Wells would have been? How about Anquan? Edwards?
No, No and No.
Don’t judge the draft in a vacuum. Did the eagles help themselves as much as they could have with their picks? NO.
Did the Giants? Close, but still should have gone for a real #1 (through a trade)
Did the Cowboys? No. If they’d waited until this season to get Roy, they not only would have been able to choose from more players (Anquan and Edwards) but based on those guys’ current trade value, would have gotten Roy for just a first. Still…I’m really glad we’re not relying on Maclin or Nix to be our #1 receiver next year. Say what you want about Roy’s season last year, he’s led the NFC in receiving and has proven his ability to catch balls when closely covered. Nicks burned the ACC and you think he’s a “beast.”
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Getting Peters
for #28 was one of the best moves any team has made this offseason. But is he as much of an upgrade over Tra Thomas as Sean Jones will be a downgrade from Dawkins?
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
I've been saying this since the trade
In my mind, Peters replaces Thomas, and getting trading a 1st and 4th for a solid LT is a good move. But I don’t see how hes better than Tra. Quicker players just blow by him. And even though i’ve heard he is a good run blocker, Buffalo could not run the ball to the left at all last year.
And yes, the dropoff from dawkins to whatever safety they play is going ot be greater than the improvement from peters. And if sheldon brown stays this b*tchy, they’re secondary is really gonna struggle.
Baker is 308 approx.
You think he can bulk up and man the nose?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
You're right
Still, his off the field stuff goes against what Dallas is (saying it is) trying to do, doesn’t it?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
they have said they really like him
i don’t think they’re as worried about NT as some folks think they are
or should be?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Just a thought...
Seems like some of these LB’s could also contribute to the 4-6 in addition to adding depth…
That formation worked pretty well for us last year…
True but...
Neither had Ware….
Not saying any of these guys will be in his class…
But most 3-4 OLB’s haven’t played LB before they hit the NFL
True but
even Ware struggled a bit his first year, and none of the guys we drafted are that talented.
that's all I'm sayin
we shouldn’t expect ANY of the players drafted this year to make any difference unless it’s on Special Teams.
Very few
If any players in this draft that would start for us this season….
The starting positions are in place almost across the board
Yep...
all the players drafted this year are for depth and special teams, which makes it really hard to judge. Are they backups because of the talent on our roster, because this is a weak draft class, or because we picked the wrong guys?
My last Point on the Eagles
Any chance the Eagles made the playoffs last year WITHOUT B-Dawk?
Not only was he playing some of the best football of his career, he played each play like he didn’t care if he broke his neck and got the rest of that D to play like that. No matter how much they upgrade on O (and they definitely did with Peters), they’re not going to get a repeat of last years’ intensity on D…not without Dawkins.
This is why I wanted Dawkins or Ray…I just don’t see Brooking getting guys all fired up. It’s not just about the talent and athleticism. The Eagles lost the heart and soul of their team this offseason and will be much worse off for it.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
i meant to type this...
dawk is getting long in the tooth and is not the same cover guy..plus den overpaid for him..eagles are not dumb
The post wasn't about Dawkin' on field talent.
His fire was the trademark of the defense, and can’t be easily replaced.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Exactly
I’m not saying that Dawkins would have been good next year (no one knows…maybe he’s done) but what we DO KNOW FOR SURE:
The Eagles don’t have last year’s Dawkins. If they kept him, there’d be a shot that they have him. So I’m happy.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
I'm gonna say this is the time to move up about 6 spaces, to 149
All 3 of our division rivals AND Chicago (who seems to have the same draft board as us) pick in the 5 spots ahead of us.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
5th rounders
pick Macho Harris from VT – our next free safety
and two of these
Duke Robinson
Fenuki Tupou
Jason Watkins
Scott McKillop
Frantz Joseph
Jasper Brinkley
Come on Jerry!
Check out my movie - StandardsOfEthicalConduct.com
Well look at the bright side. We should be picking in front of them next year so we can pay them back.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
How many of the picks we've made so far had a private workout?
I think B Williams and McGee did – are there any others?
Are there any other players who worked out in Dallas that remain on the board?
anyone want to give out grades for us? curious what people think
I know the media will be giving us a D….
depends on how you look at the draft
we probably won’t get any starters out of this draft.. but I think our Special Teams will be improved, which has been a major weakness. Overall I’ll say a solid C that upgrades to a B if Roy Williams plays up to his potential.
did i call this
yes, he did
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
thats why campo traded up
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
ProFootballWeekly graded him a 2nd to 3rd for what that's worth.
And he can play corner or safety.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Come on!
Macho Harris man, come on! Dammit.
Check out my movie - StandardsOfEthicalConduct.com
he'll compete at FS
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
anybody have anything on
DeAngelo Smith? never really heard of him. can he be converted to safety or is he strictly a CB?
deangelo smith - cb
Analysis
Positives: Aggressive, adequately-sized corner with long arms and confidence. … Stays low in his pedal and flips his hips open well. … Good hands for the interception when closing forward on the ball. … Attacks quick screens behind the line of scrimmage, will throw his body into the tackle. … Has played some free safety when needed and also returned kicks. … Works hard to improve his game.
Negatives: Fits best in a zone system where he can see the play in front of him and close on the ball. … Plays near the line at times but does not get his hands on receivers. … Gambles to get to the ball. … Only adequate straight-line speed. … Has trouble adjusting to the ball in the air and making the interceptions when moving backward. … Has a tough time getting off wide receiver’s blocks due to his lack of size and upper-body strength. … Gets turned around easily. … Lacks the suddenness to handle quick slot receivers. … Not a physical tackler. … Whiffs on attempts to cut tackle because he ducks his head. … Questionable ball security, decision-making and speed as a punt returner.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
returned 5 of 11 interceptions for TDs
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
atlanta has our 20
we still have our 30 and 36 .. not sure what else was involved
I don't think he will for long
The Eagles have quite a few picks coming up, and they love taking falling O-Linemen late.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Smith
not bad for where we picked him. I think we still need someone to handle the fast/quick WR’s in the NFC East… (and yes I know we have Newman and Scandrick, but I still think we need one more)
Um Newman, Scandrick, Jenkins
all three of them are fast and quick. Not sure I understand where you are coming from?
I think we might have silenced some of today's critics with the VALUE here!
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
we gave...
the first pick fo the 7th round to move up.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
I like that pick
looks like NFL is projecting him as as safety.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
people who say he's slow...
are reading ONLY the combine numbers… he’s lightening quick closing on the ball… thus 5 ints returned for TDs … the guy is an athlete
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
hopefully he can
looks like he has some return ability with 5 picks taken back for TD’s.. hopefully he can translate those skills to punt returns.
catching punts is a whole nother story
It is so easy to fumble punts, I wouldn’t feel comfortable having him field punts if he hasn’t done it before
fielding punts is a skill
true, but as long as you don’t have stone hands, fielding punts is a skill that can be easily learned.
OK, with a little bit of time before our next pick
do we draft OL depth or continue picking guys to help on Special Teams? who are some player still out there that you like?
How many people on here cried when
We didnt take Duke Robinson with our first picks in the 3rd round…
by UtahUte CowboyFan on Apr 26, 2009 1:41 PM CDT reply actions
I think I've figured it out
5 Blings just doesn’t want to risk having to change his name on here…he hates the idea of having to re-register so much, that he wishes ill on the Cowboys.
He might even have one of those catchy “Got Five?” shirts and doesn’t want to have to buy a new one of those…
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
draft
why is everyone griping so muchother team’s draft? none of the players drafted have played a down of pro ball so what do we know about them right now. they were good college players? practice squads are full of guys that were good college players. i trust the cowboys scouting department. they are going after specific guys-football guys. i don’t really care what the other teams have done in the draft. we were better than them last year and this year we get felix and kosier back for whole season. add that to our draft and i think we are still better than was. and phil for sure. but we’ll se how these guys look once the pads come on.
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