Dallas Cowboys 2009 Draft (Day 2): Open Thread V
by Dave Halprin on Apr 26, 2009 3:48 PM CDT
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Print[UPDATE]: With the 229th pick, the Cowboys select: Manuel Johnson, WR, Oklahoma
NFL Draft Countdown on Manuel Johnson
That's it, all 12 picks. Stick around for updates later.
[UPDATE]: With the 227th pick, the Cowboys select: Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati
NFL Draft Countdown on Mike Mickens
[UPDATE]: With the 208th pick, the Cowboys select: John Phillips, TE, Virginia
NFL Draft Countdown on John Phillips
[UPDATE]: With the 197th pick, the Cowboys select: Stephen Hodge, S, TCU
NFL Draft Countdown on Stephen Hodge
One more open thread should get us through our final picks; 197, 208, 227 and 229.
#69: Jason Williams, ILB, Western Illinois
#75: Robert Brewster, T/G, Ball State
#101: Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M
#110: Victor Butler, OLB, Oregon State
#120: Brandon Williams, OLB, Texas Tech
#143: DeAngelo Smith, CB, Cincinnati
#166: Michael Hamlin, S, Clemson
#172: David Buehler, K, USC
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The kicker
Do you really need to draft a KO specialist?
I still don’t see why McBriar can’t learn KOs.
its really not that big of a deal...
if he is good on kickoffs, i really hve no problem with this… he’ll contribute than any other fifth rd pick would have this year
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 26, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
they did try
and it didn’t work out so well
but this kid can play FB and safety and can cover kicks and punts
You don;t draft a KO specialist
You pick up an F’in dropkicking Rugby player or soccer player to kick it through the back of the endzone, not an F’in 5th rounder.
but would you give up a draft pick for roscoe parrish?
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Yes
He’s serves dual roles as a receiver and kick returner. I wouldn’t give up a draft pick for Roscoe if he caught the ball well but had to pitch it to someone else to run it(catching specialist)
Im climbing up on my Sammie Stroughter soap box now
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions
i'm wit U, glory.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
4 more
to go….everyone ready for a punter?
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Is Jerry Crazy like a Fox?
The more I think about this draft the more I like it. Dallas obviously doesn’t like the bottom 20 of their roster and have chosen to replace them with guys who have high character, are hard workers, and will be excited to play special teams. We have really strengthened a major weakness for us from last year, Special Teams.
Also, for all you wondering about keeping extra kicker, QB etc. How about carrying less linemen? The main reason we keep extra linemen is because of Kickoff return. But wedges are no longer allowed, those guys will be replaced with more athletic DE/OLB/TE type guys. And who have we drafted? DE/OLB’s.
Maybe I’m reaching a little bit… but maybe… just maybe…. Jerry is crazy like a fox.
Ummm.....
Am I trippin or is Mike Mickens still on the board?
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions
I was thinking that, when we took DeAngelo Smith
I just assumed I missed him going.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
You're not triping
but Jerrah did just draft a backup kicker
they've got enough of those type of guys
they better not
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember when
Nebraska was a powerhouse? Man have they plummetted.
Miami too
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
So true. But after the last two stellar recruiting classes, that'll soon change -- knock on wood.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
wasn't aware chris baker had character concerns
by CowboysFan4Life on Apr 26, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions
Thery are not really that big of a deal
Just a couple of scuffles… You hear me Jerry!? Just a couple! Do it you won’t be disappointed!
He's on probation
and was kicked off a major college program…that’s a little more that some scuffles
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Sammie Stroughter, Tony Carter, or Michael Ray Garvin please....
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions
I just hope they draft someone at least one of us know something about
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I have to admit
I knew nothing about Brewster, or Butler. Nothing.
They’ve got tape on all these guys at dallascowboys.com, Butler looks real nice. Very athletic.
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Who's that
Larry Allen guy we took in the 3rd round too, I never heard of him.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Wade's sitting back so maybe Garrett will get a turn here
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
on dallascowboys.com
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Is anybody getting any sound on the warroom cam?
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
I'll take whatever on offense or a returner...give me a skill position please!!!
I’ll even take a FB.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
finally, they get a bkup for jamal
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think we'll take any more LB's
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Bueller
Based on the interview he just did with Norm. Seemed very humble, personable, willing and eager to defer credit. He basically volunteered to play ST and it turns out that he and Folk are good friends.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
graham harrell
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
Gimme Mickens
Or Crosby.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
I'd be cool with those or even Sammie like Carl's been talking about.
With this many picks, take a risk on a hurt dude.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Wade's always smiling
For all we know the Arby’s delivery just came in.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
Its in........
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions
Wow, another one!!!
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions
my ducks hat didn't work
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
Who is Stephen Hodge?
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
nfl.com says safety,
Announcement says linebacker.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
From nfl.com
Analysis
Strengths: Adequate height with stocky, strong safety build and long arms. … Big hitter who will lay the wood when the ballcarrier is lined up in his sights. … Finds his way through traffic inside to attack the ball. … Quick in his drop and can handle zone coverage outside at the second level. … Hustles downfield and reads screens quickly. … Could be a special teams force at the next level, like he was early in his college career, due to his secure tackling and aggressive nature.
Weaknesses: Safety-linebacker “tweener.” … Plays in the box most of the time in the 3-3-5 defense, basically as a linebacker. … Is not as physical as he should be. … Runs around blocks because he has trouble getting off them. … High and choppy in his backpedal. … Takes poor angles at times and does not have the fluid hips or lateral speed to handle man coverage responsibilities. … Statistics inflated by aggressive TCU defensive scheme that had him constantly blitzing.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Bye bye
Courtney Brown, you no longer have a roster spot.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
maybe like a nic harris?
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
well if BSPN said OLB, then Hodge must be a safety.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
Someone joked earlier about a 1-6-4 defense
But I’m starting to wonder if that might not be close to the truth.
well, we may lose spears next year
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
our new Roy...really cool to have, seriously
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
Looks like an inside backer to me...
Bye Carp….
Hodge likes guns too…. I’m in.
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions
by the way
I don’t post here often, but Carl – wanted to give you props for coming in and elevating the game with thoughtful, insightful posts.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
man
That is a clever name. Mad props to your originality.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
safety who played close to line of scrimmage
His eight sacks led all Football Bowl Subdivision defensive backs in 2007, though he basically played linebacker in TCU’s defense and blitzed often. The question for NFL teams will be whether he’s a safety, weak-side linebacker or a special teams player.
joe decamillis is gonna be on the ticket in a few
could be interesting to hear what he has to say about bueller
Every time Tim Duncan whines, an angel gets its wings.
Seems like a special teamer
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
He's too short
for a 3-4 inside backer, unless he’s as good as Nguyen.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
our NT aren't big enough
to have donnie edwards playing inside.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the idea of him as the nickle 'backer, might work there
Tom Grieve is my hero.
I was just thinking
How versatile our D could be with all the different type of players we have now
by Musiccitynorm on Apr 26, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone want to take a stab
at signing Marvin Harrison. Doesn’t appear we’re concerned about WR depth
I have always thought we are good
I think we have two of the best no name recievers in all of football, Austin, and Stanback
by Musiccitynorm on Apr 26, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
if we're not concerned about wr depth..
why would we sign harrison?
We have 3 legitimate rbs, 2 probably legit tes and 1 #1 wr with two solid guys in austin and crayton with stanback entering year #3. I don’t see why we need anohter offensive weapon, aside from the line of course.
He's got good feet for his size.
Maybe he can drop 15 lbs.
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions
A Kicker is more than a FG Kicker
At what point is your best field goal kicker no longer your best kicker? I know it seems strange to sever the two, but:
if Buehler in 2009 would miss 2-3 field goals that Folk would have made, BUT
1. gets you better field position EVERY time he kicks off
2. Saves a TD-with his speed and tackling ability
3. Scores a TD on a fake- Either a run (like the Ravens did to us) or he goes out for a Kitna pass.
The NFL is not about filling conventional roles anymore. Prototypes are the way of the past. You have to find ways to get the best players on the field.
Someone (Rafael?) had a great article about the FS/SS distinction disappearing, and I think teams are doing that kind of thing at other positions as well. Versatility is KEY when it comes to backups, so why not kickers?
You have to weigh the benefits a guy can bring you against the detriment he causes. A guy can be the best kicker without being the best FG kicker.
I’m not saying Buehler is the better kicker, but IF he can provide benefits that outweigh the discrepancy in FG %, then he IS THE BETTER KICKER!
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
NOT TO BE MISINTERPRETED
This is not a Buehler commercial. I’m not saying that he will or even can do 1-3 above, but IF he can
AND
IF he’s not a significant drop off as a FG kicker,
he could be the better Kicker w/o being the better FG kicker.
To apply this to his draft status…Does he have as good a shot at being the better overall kicker as Quentin Lawrence (the next WR) does of beating out Hurd? Does he have as good a shot as Andrew Gardner (Next Tackle taken) has of beating out Free or McQuistan?
Only time will tell. Let the guy kick a few balls and maybe even hit a few people before you shut him out.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Waste a pick on a position where the rook made the pro bowl?
Brilliant!!!
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
As much of a Waste
As probably any other pick though. Your in too close and letting the tree hide the forest here. You can’t judge the pick without looking at the options available. It may be likely that Buehler won’t make the team, but who would?
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Chris Baker?
:-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Leroy Hill
Is now a FA – anyone interested in cutting a few guys and fitting him in?
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions
Interesting
On Hodge…TCU liked to blitz with him, so maybe we’re looking at some kind of possible hybrid SS/ILB 3rd down blitzer
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Very possible
Maybe he can play that spot they made for Roy Williams a ways back.
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
someone give a recap
I’m using all my bandwidth streaming the NFL network right now
Tom Grieve is my hero.
we are going to have to trade some players after this draft (i.e. Ellis Carp)
not enough roster spots
Whats up with Quan Cosby?
Is there issues with him as a wide receiver?
"Out of need springs desire, and out of desire springs the energy and the will to win."
ST Coach
is saying that it would be hard for the Bueler to beat out Folk…but they have got to get Folk better on the kickoffs. Folk better start kicking hard….what a bunch of crock.
Dallas' draft = dumpster fire
As happy as I was with Jerry and Cisky last year, I am really thinking it was a one year anomaly and we’re back to trading down and shying away from players who could really battle for starting jobs.
Drafting career backups is a failure model.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
blings, if you want to criticize a pick or three... so be it...
but your “I know better than all of you and the draft room too” attitude is tiring … and at best naive.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
backups
Doesn’t look like their drafting backups, looks like they’re drafting guys who if they develop will start.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
As soon as I find a single pick I can make sense out of, I will...
Until then, DUMPSTER FIRE.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
if rose colored glasses are for optimists, what color would pessimists wear?
gotta be brown, right?
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Why is it such a taboo to carry 2 kickers?
Dallas has done it before. Other teams as well. If he is a major improvement to the kicking game, he will stay.
Folk is going nowhere, end of that silly idea.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Three kickers
Don’t forget about the punter. Why don;t most teams do it if it’s such a good idea?
Yeah, you have to carry 3 kickers
That means someone is left off the roster and depth at another position is hurt.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Yeehaw to hat. I think he's gonna be my fav pick.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
They loved Dwayne Goodrich too
…and we know how that worked out.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
nfldraftscout
compared him to James Harrison. Holy crap.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
if they could have gotten a 3rd
they’d have been gone already. Carpenter is a bust who’s kept around because he’s Romo’s buddy. Ellis is overpaid.
Tony Gonzalez got a 2nd, so you think 2 LBs that we’ll end up cutting can get a 3rd? C’mon!
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I am not so sure anyone will want Ellis
I see him continuing for a final year as a situational pass-rush guy.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
I'm projecting we pick...
McNaab’s mom.
or we go trade down into the 8th round.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Yes Quincy, we know...
;-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Where's the guy from earlier today that kept posting the value chart
that would be nice to see now
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Who's the best available?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I gotta agree with Quincy
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
me too
At least you know that he can rush the passer.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
I can't see
us getting rid of Ellis this year. I think he has one more year with the Cowboys. Give us one more year Greg. That’s all we ask. 10 sack minimum.
I'd like to see 2 OLINE projects + 1 ILB project
Guys that get the “very athletic” and “good motor” comments
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Looks like the Steelers just took an Oregon DT
who would project to DE. I wouldn’t mind a pick like that.
Who is this guy? Gimmie a link
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Someone said earlier that they think Dallas likes its NT rotation
Gotta believe them having let lots of NT’s pass them by.
I think the character stuff with Baker will cause him to go undrafted.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Hatcher, Spears, Igor, Bowen, etc.
That would be a hard one for him to crack.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Hodge
My wife’s a TCU alum so I’ve seen Hodge a few times. i don’t think he’s as dominant as his college career numbers indicate. Every OL I saw play against TCU was preoccupied in stopping one of the TCU DE (#98 I think) and that allowed other guys like Hodge to get pressure.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
We should draft the best looking Eagle Cheerleader
You know, get into their heads?
The sad part is she might be a better football player than half of these guys we picked.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I'll say this....
while I’m not big on this draft, there are a few guys who are watching this who are probably sweating there ass off. Pat Watkins is one of them.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Let's hope that sweat
makes them work harder
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Hard work
won’t save Watkins. He is who we thought he is.
by I_miss_Switzer on Apr 26, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Watkins and Ball.
…and Ellis.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Honestly
If this draft improves special teams at all, I think it’ll be worth it.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 26, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Carpenter
May just have to cut the pony tail off and start playing football.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Ughhhhhhh
I’m definitely not a fan of this draft. Sounds like nothing but a bunch of backups and camp bodies. DBs don’t have speed or range … no WRs … ugh.
Eagle Cheerleader
…write it down
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
OK
Count me as a Guice fan now. Very interesting looking WR. Probably available as an UFA though, but go after him
Tom Grieve is my hero.
http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/sports/watch/v18032148FRkTE3ED
Some Guice action.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Is he a blocker or a receiver?
I’d like a real mauler.
Are you kidding me?
A TIGHT END?
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
Not a single OT taken for a team that is a misstep away from Doug Free
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Yea, WTF????
NOT A SINGLE ONE!!!!
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Who of this list do you think will be ready this year???
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
really?? another TE ... 5blings might recruit me to the dark side!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Here we go:
Analysis
Positives: Prototype height for the position with long limbs. Solid build with room for additional growth. Reads the defense and can find the soft spot in the short and medium levels of zone coverage. Reliable hands. Catches the ball cleanly with his hands and secures it quickly. Good body control to catch the pass outside of his frame. Lacks the quickness off the snap that teams prefer, but accelerates smoothly. Physical inline blocker. At least adequate quickness off the snap and laterally for the down block. Provides a good initial pop and effort as a drive blocker. Veteran with four years of starting experience.
Negatives: Strictly a short- to medium-range target. Lacks the straight-line speed to challenge the seam. Only adequate elusiveness to make defenders miss in space. Occasionally lines up in the slot, but lacks the burst off the snap to continue in this role in the NFL. Could use more bulk in his upper body. Provides pop as a blocker, but lack of initial quickness evident in this area, as well. Struggles to recover if beaten initially.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Maybe
the TE can be a KO specialist?
Actually, we had to replace Tony Curtis, so, I’ll go with it.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
lol
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
ANYTHING BUT A K AND TE... WTF???
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
NOTE TO JERRY ....
YOUR PICKS ARE NOT BOTTOMLESS… ONLY 2 LEFT…
ILB AND OT ARE STILL NEEDS…!!!
AND DT … A LITTLE DEPTH!!!!!
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Okay, one and a tweener I'll grant ya...
but how about ANYONE at LT???
The only good thing – there is still OT value to make the team on the board.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
The TE from UVA
was a team captain. High character hard worker.
He’s a special teams guy and will bust his ass to make the team and improve, and in doing so, will push more talented guys to work harder. No accident they selected a guy at a deep position who has limited physical abilities.
The Cowboys aren’t dummies.
Agreed they are drafting for Special Teams and I like our picks
We should have addressed OT for sure but oh well maybe we will make a trade like we did with the Broncos last year for an O-lineman because our depth is a little scary.
Jumping on the Guice bandwagon
I’m officially on the Guice bandwagon, the kids got some skills and could be a steal at this point.
You know what is interesting...
Normally, I enjoy every minute of the draft, taking it all in. I love the players, the bio’s, the film.
But with this draft, I can’t wait for it to be over.
Let’s say for a moment that we weren’t all fans viewing this through the fandom glasses…
Seriously, how could you give this draft a passing grade?
Do you think Eagle, Giant and Redskins fans are scared of any of these moves?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
wouldn't you say
that the Cowboys in 2008 were perhaps just better special teams away from winning the division? It’s not a stretch to make that statement.
Let’s say 20% less penalties, 20% less return yards given up, 20% deeper kick offs… do you think that would have been teh difference from 9-7 to 11-5? I do. I think the Cowboys coaches do as well.
You think better special teams would have changed the outcome of the Eagles game?
44-6 suddenly becomes 28-17 Dallas?
No.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Yes, I do.
Because we beat Arizona, and are already in the playoffs and that game is for nothing and they know it before it starts and give up.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
but you got to admit that better ST’s play is sorely needed, especially when they allow them to get to our punter and our punter end up on IR with a broken leg/foot/whatever.
The Eagles game was the WHOLE team blowing up internally. They did not come to win, they came to lose so they could go home. They pretty much let that happen.
Okay
but that was one pick.
If I had posted this list as a mock, how many BTB’ers do you think would have given it a good grade?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Just because we don't know them might not be a bad thing
They pay scouts to go find these guys and look at them personally not just search through youtube and find who has the best highlight film.
RE: Larry Allen
I know people said WHO IS THAT!!??!? when we got him
Tom Grieve is my hero.
I find it funny
how so many people are getting worked up over sixth round picks.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Guice will not even make our team
Look at our wr right now is he gonna play in front of any of our wrs and he will be designated to practice squad if anything so calm down
OK
Guice, Mickens or Baker could make sense in the 7th now. Too many ??? for anything earlier that that.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Who's left?
I know, Baker. But who else?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Jumping on the GuiceWagon
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Any thought from the draftniks on remaining LTs?
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Who's left?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
How about a kicker?
Uhhhh. Damn, never mind. We already have that covered
Hrm
Cincy takes the mormon…something tells me he’s not gonna fit in well in that locker room
Tom Grieve is my hero.
LT is the one position the NFL seems to know what they are looking for.
Id rather draft a 3rd kicker than look for a LT prospect at this stage. Unless you find a DE or TE you think you could groom. That is the only shot you have.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
McQuistan
Parcells was really pleased with him, and I thik he might still be pretty good.
by Musiccitynorm on Apr 26, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe so. Was a baseball pitcher for a while before football. I still hold out hope for him.
Leaving Procter on the field and not giving him a shot earlier at guard still baffles me. You have the size and feet for LT but cant play guard?!
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
I beleieve its been shown that when evaluating picks
you check to see if the guy has a legitmate shot at making you better or making your roster. O love Folk but this guy is an athlete with a big leg. If in preseason he shows accuracy and a big leg then he is an upgrade. Thats no more a waste than a QB.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
Folk is
the man. no way we are replacing him. There would be a lot of upset people around here. I don’t care if he can kick the ball to the next country. Folk hits his mark no matter the pressure. I think he won the fan base in that Bills game in 2007.
Folk is money but Folk cant kick it further than my mother who is in her 60s.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
Really?
Then she might be an UDFA option.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
She cant bench 225 for 25 reps and she is not fast.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
Hope you mean just kickoffs
Because I remember a certain Buffalo game that disagrees with you FG wise.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
your mom
can kick a 104-yard field goal like the Folk hero?
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 ... the Cowboy are not trading Folk! End of story
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I think he was only drafted for kick-offs
Not field goals. They showed a graphic on NFLN saying that he was about 40/90 for touch-backs on kick-offs.
two picks in three spots.... nice little sprint to the finish upcoming for Cowboys + fans
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
9 picks to go til us...lets end this thing
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Buccs just got BIGGERS
That guy should have been an OL or DL with that name
Tom Grieve is my hero.
pats fans
aren’t happy – They drafted a long snapper, and didn’t spend an early pick on an LB when they needed it.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
The point is
People are here talking about how horrible the Cowboys draft was, and praising New England – was pointing out the ol’ “Grass is Greener” conundrum.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not concerned about CB
Give me a big nose and a WR
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
I'd go, but it wouldn't be for the sumo's
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
LT project... LT project...
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Im trying to make sense of all of this and here is what comes to mind.
I think we are going to go with a more conservative run oriented field postion game. We have went all defense and STs. We have gone with highcharacter high motor guys who should come into camp flying around trying to make an impression. With so many of these guys our vets are not going to be able to coast. These guys are coming and will push and challenge.
I think this alone makes us better. I like the idea of turning up the tempo at TC. I hope Wade opens up the hitting more. I like the emphassis put on all areas of special teams. I want a bunch of kamikazies on this roster lighting the fire under everyones ass. I want all jobs open to competition.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
LOL
Look at Scott Wright’s best available players on day 2:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/results/Best-Day-Two.php
We gone none of them.
where is the sudden infatuation with what basically amounts to the MSM?
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sepeku I believe what you mean
I like this draft so far though, we have more depth a linebacker and safety and Romo’s future backup.
Looks like...
Colts traded up in front of the Cowboys to get a K before we got him.
by UtahUte CowboyFan on Apr 26, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions
If these media pundits were so clever, why did Duke fall about 100 spots?
yet people believe these media pundits more than the draft room, without even a doubt…
and by the way, the Cowboys have been drafting well for 6 straight years… at least wait until TC to reserve judgment
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yea I agree
I’m mostly bummed cuz I know very little if anything about most of our picks and NONE of my favs got picked
+1
These are none of the guys we have been debating for months. It seems embarrasing at this point and you know we are about to be blasted by everyone for this draft until we win a SB.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
Field position, special teams and defense.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
Gettin' close
just a few more til we can be done
Tom Grieve is my hero.
As bad as Folks kickoffs have been,
I really think it’s justifiable to keep both guys.
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions
I don't know
Maybe somebody can pull double duty. Maybe Williams can handle being the 4/5 corner and the 4th safety. I dont know, there’s got to be a way.
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Jason Williams can also be an emergency OLB while holding down the nickle ILB spot
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
I just meant... if we are going to carry 3 QB's and 2 K's,
something has to give.
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 26, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
LT project... LT project...
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Jason Watkins baby
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i like both these guys...
btw… it’s 5 am here in Thailand… glad I don’t have to work until the NYSE opens – 830 tonight!
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
Cheaper rent?
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
truth is - many reasons
1. cheap – and I don’t make millions
2. great food
3. not the bar girls … but the REAL thai girls… are princesses
4. it’s far away from my ex-girlfriend
5. and the reason I will stay – it is GREAT for my trading to work at night – I’m a night owl
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Steelers on the clock
we’re next.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions
Guice with the 1st, LT with the second...
that would make me smile in my sleep
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... top 5 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
The 7th round is always such a heartbreak
nobody you want is ever picked, its always some unknown guy
some of you will claim this whole draft was that…just hush ;- )
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Falk says
we blew it getting rid of TO for RW even though he bad mouthed him all year. Mayock says we lost ground to Philly. We’ll see.
I want a punt returner dammit!!!
and a big fat ass nose tackle.
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions
we got our PR
the CB/S we drafted earlier
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Dudley and Baker
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Yeeeeeessssssssss!!!!!!!
Mickens
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions
So we got Cincinnatti's starting CB tandem?
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Quick
who’ll donate him knee ligaments? Cause he could be REALLLLLLLLY Good
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions
One of my 3 possible for the 7th I wanted, I stand corrected on not getting what you want
Tom Grieve is my hero.
we up again reallllll sooon
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
Finally, a good pick. Took long enough. LOL
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Uh Oh!
Anybody else notice that the kicker that was selected has a better 40 time than the saftey Hamlin that was picked.
he's got better measurables
than half of the first round.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah he also has a better 40 time than Clay Matthews and Rey Maualuga
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Yay
Mickens.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
Baker or Guice
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Lions pick is in, we're on the clock for the last time
Tom Grieve is my hero.
his knee
is a big question mark right now
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Hopefully Raf
will talk to his doc buddy and find out about meniscus and cartilidge problems.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
only shows how little credibility their projections deserve
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Pick is in
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
that grade
is AFTER the injury – he was on path for the 1st.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
Mayock thought that was a great pick.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
Why is it lame?
Did you expect lightning in the bottle in the middle of the 7th?
Hey a wideout!!
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions
Manuel Johnson
Can anyone give me a little info?
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
i sure cant
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Oklahoma Wideout
smaller than our prototype. Kipers “best available” for about 2 hours now.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
He went to my high school
He was a QB and WR there, fast for the level. Led his team to a Texas 3A title. Hurt while breaking out as a WR his last year at Oklahoma.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
nice background info
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
He was a
decent wr in college.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
where is guice from? any chance he'll like the cowboys as an UDFA?
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Well I guess we'll have to hope Chris Baker makes it to Undrafted Free Agency
I feel if Baker makes it to that he’ll choose the Cowboys. He says the Cowboys were his favorite team growing up
Maybe he made Joaqin Iglesias!
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
please don't pick nick reed patriots
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
Hurd is here this year
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
Strengths:
Smooth athlete…Reliable hands…Runs good routes…Good instincts and awareness…Nice quickness and agility…Very tough…Isn’t afraid to go over the middle…Solid blocker…Good work ethic…Team player.
Weaknesses:
Average height and bulk…Doesn’t have great timed speed…Not very elusive…Was never a featured target in college…Minor durability concerns… Wasn’t super productive …Overall upside might be limited.
Notes:
Just a one-year starter for the Sooners…Dislocated his elbow in 2008 but only missed one game and played with a brace…Really emerged as a senior and gave his draft stock a major boost…The type who does everything well but nothing great…Certainly won’t ever be a star but could excel in a complimentary role as a #3 or #4 wideout in the pros.
G'night all... thanks for all the hours of entertainment
we now return to our regularly scheduled life
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MANNY!!!
I love it. This is great. This kid went to my High School, well, a few years after me. Great kid, should be good if he gets healthy again.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
From nfl.com:
Overview
Oklahoma’s offense has so many stars that a solid contributor like Johnson can go unnoticed. While not particularly tall, strong or fast, Johnson’s consistent production over the past three seasons in a complementary role has not gone unnoticed by scouts.
His 42 catches for 714 yards and nine touchdowns in 2008 would have increased if not for a grotesquely dislocated elbow injury suffered against Kansas. Given his tough play on the field and work ethic in practice, it was no surprise when he returned with a brace after missing only one game. Had an arm span of 32 1/2 inches and a hand span of 8 3/4 inches at the combine.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Yeah
I think it’s a good flyer.
I mean he was recruited to a good school.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
you know... for all my complaining
about our second round trade… I think we did really well today
Now we just need to call Dudley Guice and sign him as UDFA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LokDWMKRb9s&feature=related
best post of the year
Knowing is half the battle. http://deartracyp.blogspot.com
by Captain Grid Iron on Apr 26, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
MANNY!!!!
He went to my high school. Was a QB in high school, fast for the level, won a state title. Hurt during his last year at OK or would have had a BIG season.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
good pick
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
12 Special Teams Players
It looks to me that we drafted 12 special teams players, a few of whom may develop into adequate backups.
considering
that we had 2 on the roster before today, I think it was good to address it.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
little surprised about that
but I think we have some pretty good, quality, character players here. I agree with the coaches that the bottom of this roster needs to e churned out. there seems to be a lot of dead weight which is an issue because our ST are so poor. The ILB sounds similar to burnett, if he can replace burnett’s production without the injuries(obviously not year 1 though probably), that would be pretty good.
Raf , waiting on your take. I need something to hang my hat on until JULY.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
And what's wrong with that?
The story of this draft is Roy WR Williams. If he can play, then it’s a great draft. The Cowboys’ starting line ups are pretty much fantastic. 2 seasons ago, they were just about the entire Pro Bowl line up.
The starting line up won’t be affected by this class, probably… perhaps at ILB. But these guys are here to jack up special teams production. It’s a difference maker.
I think that we got some starters
Not this year, but Mickens has upside to start.
I think we’ll have a starting safety between Smith and Hamlin (who I wanted badly)
I think Hodge is going to play on 3rd down this year – and no, all those OLB’s won’t work out, but if you hit on one, then it’s worth it.
With 12 picks, you’re not picking a bunch of guys to make the roster – there’s maybe 5 or 7 spots for these guys – so you take the ones with the upside.
by Last of the Romohicans on Apr 26, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
bottom line is
the rest of he division got better especially philly and new york while we went sideways at best…not good
you can't judge a draft yet
Philly’s draft with bunkley a couple years ago received Aplus reviews, and it turns out they got only a little out of it.
The Giants now have like 5 receivers under 26 picked in the first 3 rounds, and so far they have little to show for it. I’m not sure they’re exactly well off for next year with their current crop.
And seriously…our draft is based on the Romo-Roy connection. If he can come close to replacing TO’s production and presence on teh field we will win at least 10 games next year.
I'm hoping Nick Reed doesn't get drafted so we can bring him in as a UDFA.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
Could we trade Ellis and Carp for Shaun Rogers?
The UDFA’s I’d like to see are;-
Baker – NT, Boone – T, Stillman – FS, Mitchell – DE, Lane – FB, Cosby – WR, Guice – WR.
OK...I am in no way an expert...
but wouldn’t Quan Cosby have been a better pick than Manuel Johnson?
i can't help but think that the fact that cosby is already 26 had something to do with it
Every time Tim Duncan whines, an angel gets its wings.
by MeanMr.Mustard on Apr 26, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Aside from being a homer for Manny Johnson
I think he can be successful. Look for him to work in the slot a bunch. He’s got great hands and deceptive speed.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
im fine with this draft
lets be real – we weren’t going to get instant contirbutors. Guys like Mickens, McGee, Williams, Hamling could be big players for us down the line.
At the very least, we’ve improved our special teams, a serious weakness for us. Its time for players like Carp, Ellis, Stanback, Brown, Watkins, etc to fight for their jobs (or in ellis’ case, just be traded)
has a team ever traded back into a draft at the end of the last round?
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
he'd be on a committee for returning to the 12-round draft...lol
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
prediction: the 49ers will draft nick reed at 244...hiccup
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
I think Nick goes to Seattle.
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goodcall. nw
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry Aaron
Jerry Jones could go in his sock, slap you wit a stack of hundreds, then catch you again on the backswing wit 3 Super Bowl rings. So who the hell are you makin' fun of?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 26, 2009 6:09 PM CDT reply actions
lame, guess Ducks will stick in the rain.
Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Draft Nick Reed. Say that fast, five times!
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 26, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
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