The Valley Ranch Review: More Cowboys Draft Reviews and Other News

We got a "B"! Tony Moss at TSN was nice enough to take into account the Cowboys not drafting until Sunday. Here's his analysis:
The Cowboys were the last team in the league to make their first pick, and used it on Jason Williams, the first player below the FBS level to be selected. Williams is extremely athletic but will need some polish. The same goes for Brewster, who looks like a depth guy at one of the guard slots. McGee, the first selection of the fourth round, projects as the eventual backup to Tony Romo. Butler and Brandon Williams are pure edge pass rushers who could compete to play in a situational role if things go well. Hamlin was one of the top pure strong safeties available and could also contribute early. Buehler, the first kicker selected, has a huge, erratic leg and looks like a kickoff guy. The club's final four selections could all be long shots.
Bottom Line: No sure-fire impact players when your first pick comes in the third-round, but Dallas did a good job of adding depth to a team that needed it.
Grade: B
Adam Schein said Dallas had a solid draft, giving love to the David Buehler (yeehaw!) and Mike Mickens picks. Schein even proclaimed that Roy Williams "could end up being the single best receiver in the NFL East this year."
More VRR after the jump, including some stuff on unheralded and unloved draft pick John Phillips, the TE from Virginia.
New linebacker, Victor Butler, will already have his own welcoming committee in San Antonio come training camp.
Offensive lineman, Robert Brewster, was a player the Cowboys certainly had their eye on before the draft, being both interviewed at the combine and brought into Dallas for a visit.
Brewster was a mainstay on the Cardinals' offensive line the past four years, starting all 50 games and contributing to one of the Mid-American Conference's most powerful offenses. The Cincinnati native, who allowed just two sacks in 2008, was a first-team All-MAC performer each of the past two seasons.
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He will participate in a Cowboys mini-camp beginning Friday. Brewster said the Cowboys plan to give him a look at guard and tackle in mini-camp.

Cowboys' TE coach, John Garrett, may have been the main recruiting tool for Dallas' drafting of UVA tight end John Phillips as well as the signing of UVA wide receiver Kevin Ogletree. Garrett, a former Cavalier assistant coach when both players were brought in as freshmen, provided the Cowboys' coaching staff some perspective on Phillips and Ogletree.
Garrett remembers the Cavaliers' first day in pads during training camp in August 2005. Virginia coach Al Groh challenged his players to make a positive impression in a kickoff-coverage drill.
"Well, John raced down there, knocked over a guy and tackled the kickoff returner inside the 20," Garrett recalled with a laugh. "I mean, he just smashed into the wedge, and we were like, 'Who is this guy?'
"John Phillips loves football, he loves to compete. . . . He is just sort of intangibly the consummate player that Al Groh wants in his program: a smart, tough, reliable, dependable player who loves football."

If you don't know much about Dallas' special teams coach, Joe DeCamillis, Nick Eatman has a nice write-up on him. Our own Jim Vance did a profile on Joe D. a couple of weeks ago.
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The more I read and research our dirty dozen
the more it strikes me that all of our draftees have one thing in common…that they love to play football so much with such great passion, they probably are the kind of guys who would play for nothing if professional football didn’t exist.
And really thats the kind of guys we need, the players who give 150% on every play like its their last.
I have a good feeling about this group.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 29, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate
Matt Mosley.
This suit is NOT black!!
by what_the_crap on Apr 29, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Apr 30, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2010 mock
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9513448/Let’s-get-our-2010-mock-draft-on
Never to early to look ahead!
by tyler2 on Apr 29, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hey! at least we're winning a playoff game next year
and against the eagles no less. ;)
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 29, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best and Bryant are going to go way before that.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on Apr 29, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is great, but...
I doubt the Cowboys will be drafting this high. Why would anyone think that Jerry won’t trade this pick to move down to the 3rd round and pick up some additional picks in the 4th and 5th rounds? LOL
Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.
by Reno Cowboy on May 1, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Variety of Comments
Adam Schein is one of my favorites.
Loved reading about all of those games Brewster started at Ball State… not to mention barely giving up any sacks during his college career.
Nice find on the John Garrett recount of John Phillips, Big.
Btw, keep an eye on Ogletree. My bro-in-law is a longtime UVA football fan, and he couldn’t believe that “KO” (what he and his friends used to call him) didn’t even get drafted. He thinks that the injury two years ago hurt him.
To piggy back on Terry’s comment…
It sure looks like our front office is focusing on substance over style in 2009. Just tough, experienced, passionate, hard-nosed players willing to work it and give their all.
I’ll take that over da prima donnas any day of the week.
Great post.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Apr 29, 2009 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Woot
I’m all for guys who want to play and play hard. We’ve got starters locked in at most positions, we needed to fill in and get solid special team guys. It’s looking more and more like that’s what we did. I’ll be interested to see how these guys pan out.
by Big50 on Apr 29, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ehhh, these things happen. On to Baseball and football.
by Big50 on Apr 30, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hate to rain on the parade here, but...
i find moss’ (and some others) reaction to the cowboy’s draft perplexing. this is a team that went 9-7; how many of the starters should be “locked in”? i’m happy with finding some depth guys, but don’t you wish they had moved up to get a guy that compete to start somewhere? i know a rookie starting is not an easy thing to live with, but honestly, is crayton all that? austin has looked promising, but in very limited duty. hurd and stanback are pretty much ST guys. a rookie wideout couldn’t compete with these guys? likewise, it doesn’t look to me like we have all that much a S. also, imo, the OL (especially depth) is suspect; wouldn’t have hurt to have more guys competing there, especially if the last four picks are all long shots anyway! how does this add up to a b?
that said, i know it’s way to early to be making pronouncements. they did pretty well last year in the draft. i’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt.
by g8tgod on Apr 29, 2009 2:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
there were very few players in the 2nd rd
that could have competed with any of our starters. The only one I can think of was Unger and what makes you so sure the Cowboys weren’t trying to trade up in the 2nd rd to secure him, but just couldn’t find a partner.
Jerry certainly wasn’t trading up to the first for financial reasons.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 29, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You had Sean Smith and William Beatty
Sean to start at safety, Beatty to be your starting LT very soon. Seattle found a partner in Chicago to move up to get him. We had more ammo then Seattle and could have easily gotten Unger. The lack of depth on the O-line is going to be a problem
by cow_fanatic on Apr 29, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smith has thoughness questions, Beatty is a one year wonder
Both didn’t fit the profile that the Cowboys wanted. You may argue until your face is red that potential is more important than character, but that’s how Dallas ended up with all those busts in the late 90s and early 2000s…
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Apr 29, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smith would have never come close to starting
and neither would Beatty, I thought the Cowboys got much better value in the 3rd and 5th rounds with Brewster and Hamlin.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 29, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you completely!
As a rebuttal to those who disagree with you, regarding Smith: Wes Bunting, of the National Football Post, had him rated as the best all around safety in the draft—including Malcolm Jenkins. And I’ll just go with the Giants head of scouting’s comments to answer the questions about Beatty on cbssports.com
“He could have been right up there at the top with some of those other tackles that got taken early. He really has great feet for a tackle but he’s raw. With our situation he doesn’t have to come in [and play] right away. He can learn from the guys we have.” — Giants’ Director of Scouting Marc Ross on OT William Beatty, the second of two second-round draft picks.
Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.
by Reno Cowboy on May 1, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"He could have been right up there at the top with some of those other tackles that got taken early. He really has great feet for a tackle but he’s raw. With our situation he doesn’t have to come in [and play] right away. He can learn from the guys we have." — Giants’ Director of Scouting Marc Ross on OT William Beatty, the second of two second-round draft picks.
Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.
by Reno Cowboy on May 1, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which starter isn't locked in?
How many probowl players do the boys field and which starter was going to be replaced by somebody at #51? Sure Unger was right there and then stolen away – who does Unger put on the bench – nobody. Who does Sean Smith put on the bench, again nobody.
by birdness on Apr 29, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we would've at least won 1 more game..
If our ST were even decent….and then we would be 10-6 in the playoffs, Also Romo went down for 3 games, we might not have lost to St. Louis with Romo in there. Proctor was the starter for 13 games. Healthy we are a very good team it was the injuries and bad ST play that helped in us under-achieving which are the 2 main spots that we addressed. And personally I can see right now 3-4 future starters out of this crop, Jason Williams, Mike Hamlin, Brewster and either Butler or Williams with all the other guys potentially being very good backups Mickens, Smith, McGee, Hodge being the main backups
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 29, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starters
The thought that our starting 22 are so good, they can’t be replaced is puzzlng to me. we went 9-7, missed the playoffs and laid the most embarassing eggs in our final game in TX Stadium ever and then even worse when the playoffs were on the line against one of our big rivals.
I’m not sure what specific rookie was going to displace a current starter, but I certainly don’t think all 22 starters should be locked down – or at least they shouldn’t have been thought of that way going into the draft..
- OL. Part of the offensive woe’s last year were due to a pourous O-line. Now if Kosier coming back fixes it, that’s fine, but that’s the reason Romo got hurt -he was running for his life a lot more in ‘08 and it was likely that Left Guard spot and center. I’d like to see metrics on Flozell and Columbo as well.
- The #2 WR is a total question mark. Crayton was solid in ‘07, but had some of the biggest mistakes when it counted, then was almost non-existent in ’08. Austin shows promise, but who knows what he can do as the true #2 or if he can stay healthy.
- DE is average. Spears, Hatcher, Bowen, Dixon. Could definitely use an upgrade there.
- SS – who knows anything about Sensabaugh. Why’d he get set free and why did we only give him a 1 yr deal?
- CB – we definitely need somebody to step in as a 4th and 5th CB. Last year Newman went down, Pacman went down, Henry was off and on. Newman has shown an inabiilty to last through a season, if he goes down as usual, that leaves really 2 guys, an unproven/unconfident and the late round rookies.
by Gmunny on Apr 29, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
We need some toughness. Bring on the Wild Bunch!
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Apr 29, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean excluding...
Romo, Witten and whoever we decide to start at RB? IMHO, absolutely no one should be.
Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.
by Reno Cowboy on May 1, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
You don’t have DeMarcus Ware isn’t locked in?
The talent isn’t that bad dude.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 1, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
not to mention B James, Brooking, Newman, Hamlin, Rat, Igor, Flo, Gurode, Bigg, Colombo, RW.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 1, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get real!
Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.
by Reno Cowboy on May 1, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
those players will be in the Cowboys starting lineup opening day
unless injured, no ifs ands or buts about it.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 1, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, for the nitpickers:
QB, TE, and RB!
Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.
by Reno Cowboy on May 1, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not really nitpicking
You need specific players.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 1, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blah
I mean you named specific players, not positions.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 1, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting Article on Kickoff Specialists
I did not approve of the pick and I think many here are putting on rose-colored glasses by saying “of course we needed a kicker” now, after the draft. I don’t remember hearing anyone… anyone at all suggesting that we needed one before the draft. I don’t even know enough about KO specialists to know if he is the best one out there, but…
This is a good article on the value of KO specialists. The conclusion is that an extra 5-7 yards per kick can take a coverage unit from the bottom in the NFL to the top quartile. That being the case, maybe it isn’t such a bad idea to keep him on the roster. (I still don’t agree with the pick in the 5th round).
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 29, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll also add that it worked for the Panthers
They have a KO specialist to go along with Casey and it worked really well last year… Still doesn’t justify a high 5th round pick, IMO. But it might work.
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 29, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Trade that 5th for a 2010 4th and sign a KO specialist as a UFA. There are thousands of second, third tier soccer players all over the world that could use a couple $100K to kickoff next season.
by birdness on Apr 29, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
none of whom
could make an impact on other areas of special teams like the coaches believe Buehler can.
by foyesboys on Apr 29, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right on Terry
That is exactly my point a few blog posts back. What do you do when there isn’t much in value and your guys are already off the board? Trade down, pick up another pick.
I see this draft as nothing too flashy, getting special teamers (which we did need, very much so) and hopefully more than a few solid backups. Butler and Brandon Williams can hopefully develop into situational pass rushers, giving Ware & Ellis/Spencer a breather. I for one am optimistic about these guys and next season. We won’t really know anything until we get a few games under our belt next year. This team has changed, it won’t be as flashy as the past few years but I think they will be better. May be not, who really knows? No one, we have a long summer wait for find out.
by torchindefenses on Apr 29, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The list was too small if the guys were all off the board.
Why trade down when starting with 11 picks, trade into next year for increases value.
by birdness on Apr 29, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
again, you make it sound so easy
you need a trading partner and you don’t know if one existed at the time.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 29, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a list somewhere of what teams received picks for next year via trade this year?
you can’t tell me that there were no partners willing to trade. At least 5 other teams moved picks this year for picks next year – and Jerry is usually able to do it every year.
To me, it seems like jerry looked at his 3 of a kind and deided he was going to play out is hand this year and hope for the best – only the pot was so small, it wasn’t worth it either way.
by Gmunny on Apr 29, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
g8tgod, I hear ya
I was pissed off last year at our Offensive line and our lack of WR help. I’m holding my breath, hoping that we run more, play action a lot more and hoping that our WR’s step it up. Spreading the ball around can do wonders, keeping the defense guessing. Last year, the oppossing defense knew where the ball was going most of the time.
by torchindefenses on Apr 29, 2009 2:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If these guys love football so much...
don’t you think that there is a possibility that some of these players become something more than situational sooner than later? I think these new draftees are hungry, they want to learn, and will challenge some of the starters.
by TheCowboyFan on Apr 29, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no, the majority are way too raw and unpolished
the only draftee I see that even has a remote chance of starting is maybe Hamlin beating out Sensabaugh, and thats really stretching it.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 29, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know that?
No one does. Just look at Chris Horton last year for the Skins. Wasn’t he supposed to be way too raw and unpolished? He was a seventh round pick.
by TheCowboyFan on Apr 29, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally don't know that.
But I don’t think there are too many who will challenge the starters.
They COULD, but doubtful.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 29, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Williams, Hamlin are the only two
Williams though is probably the only one with a close to realistic chance. The coaches seem to love sensabaugh
by foyesboys on Apr 29, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Williams is way too raw to beat out Brooking
although I think he has a great shot of winning the nickel backer job on third downs.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 29, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
And williams isn’t actually challenging an incumbent anyways, so I wasn’t really counting him as actually beating a starter.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on Apr 29, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The coaches seem to love sensabaugh
lol…after watching RW, who wouldnt
by fretman on Apr 29, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice to get some challenging,
but I think I could be satisfied if one or two of them helped light a fire under the azzes of some of our starters. If we got all season what our starters were capable of, the playoffs wouldn’t have even been a question.
by oldboysfan on Apr 29, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because of the realities of pro football
Horton started because obviously the Skins didn’t have much competition for that position. Our starters are set.
No way Williams beats out Brooking, no way Brewster beats out Kosier, no way Butler or B Williams beats out Ware or Spencer, no way Mickens or Smith beats out Jenkins, Scandrick or Newman, no way Johnson beats out RW or Austin and no way McGee…well you get the picture.
Now in a few years that might change and probably will, but not this season.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 29, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of these guys may have to play if the Oline and D-backfield get bit by the injury bug again.
Best they and the team can do is preparing them to play, starter or not.
Kosier and Flo are coming off injury-riddled seasons and I don’t think I will ever expect TNew to stay off the chart for an entire 16. Look what happened to our RBs last year.
Personally, I’m not sold on Kitna—maybe I’m too bitter from his past against the Cowboys and his lack of play time last year.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 29, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kitna sidebar
I was out of the country when the Kitna trade happened. Was there any talk about the rude comments by Kitna about Bradie James and how it might affect the locker room?
Did anyone from the Cowboys speak about this?…Bradie, Kitna, Jerry?
Just wondering.
by Gmunny on Apr 29, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I remember.
I do remember just 2 days prior to the trade chastising a friend for suggesting the Cowboys get him.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 29, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strong bench
and starters on Special Teams, that is what the Wild Bunch brings.
Is it camp yet?
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Apr 29, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Possible NT depth?
The Saints released Hollis Thomas, 6’0, 335, 13 year vet. You probably remember him from the Eagles if not the Saints. I wonder if there is any interest, as this was one area of need that wasn’t addressed in the draft.
by Baked Potato Soup on Apr 29, 2009 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What aboout Larry Foote
Any conversation about us signing him? He’s 28 and we need a hard-nosed guy just like that.
by cow_fanatic on Apr 29, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DC.com says "no" on signing Foote.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 29, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure how excited I am that our TE pick is an ideal "Al Groh type of player"
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Apr 30, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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