Miles Austin: 4th Year Wonder or Stealing a Second Rounder?
by AirforceBat on Apr 9, 2009 4:00 PM CDT
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Want to give credit to WMillion to pointing out the closest comparison that I can think of, Miles Austin to Lance Moore.
Now before I put the numbers and the comparison out there, I’d like to state that I really see both sides of the coin here. A second round pick is very valuable and in a year that Dallas lacks a first rounder, it becomes very, very tempting.
Miles Austin has really accomplished nothing in the NFL yet. There is every reason to be skeptical in him. 18 catches, 354 yards, and 3 TDS… not exactly mesmerizing. So why would any of us think that he can take the next step?
My first thought when I heard that the NY Jets were going to take a look at the young wide receiver really had nothing to do with the fact that they might get him. Instead I think that it’s an indication that Dallas isn’t the only team that is intrigued with him. I don’t know if he’ll get an offer, but the fact that another team would even consider giving up a second round pick for a player has to make you feel a little bit good about his future. In a time when there are a lot of resources being invested into scouting for the draft and looking over your own roster, the fact that they are taking their time to look over the fourth year receiver indicates that maybe Dallas’s brass aren’t fools.
Secondly, while it isn’t uncommon, it’s not like fourth year undrafted receivers don’t have a chance to breakout.
Wes Welker went into the fourth season with 29 career catches, 0 TDs, and 434 yards.
Lance Moore had 33 catches, 402 yards and 2 TDS, well 3 because he had one rushing TD.
For those of you who say, “Well if Miles Austin was so good, why couldn’t he get past Patrick Crayton?”
It’s not like Moore and Welker had monsters in front of them for the #2 spots.
I’m not saying that Miles Austin is going to be successful as either one of those guys, but it isn’t like it’s inconceivable. If I were to be a huge we have to keep Austin guy, I’d say that at least he’s made some big plays, just like Welker and Moore had before they broke out.
A KO return against Seattle, a long TD grab against GB to put the game away, he’s shown sparks a lot like Welker and Moore did for their respective teams.
I guess what tears me the most about this entire situation, is the fact that Dallas had had fast, athletic receivers before(see Randall Williams), that they haven’t put that much stock into, so what makes Miles Austin that much different?
What do you guys think?
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Miles did pass Crayton last year
I can’t remember the exact games now, but during that window mid-season between his injuries, he was actually starting in the 3rd spot for a game or so…
Yep.
They started alternating at times in the #2 spot.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
F'sho...
I would be surprised if Crayton is #2 going into the 1st game
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 9, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
their more natural positions are Miles at split end or flanker and PC at slot
anyway, aside from however they are listed on the depth chart
I can see both sides to
But when you compare him to welker coming into his fourth year i think miles has so much potenial with his size that makes him a endzone target to. Idk i hope Dallas comes out ahead in whatever happens and we dont regret letting him go and watch him break out and have a great year.
Well I don't want to compare the playing styles.
They are both really totally different receivers.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
I Agree
Alot different but its always fun to compare him to the leading reciever in the nfl the last year.. :-)
The best comparison...
Is Lance Moore….very good comparison.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 9, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather pay more now
than never see if he had it in him here or not.
His potential is tantalizing, and the thought of him realizing it on another team when we really need a receiver to step up this year is much worse than the possibility of him having a mediocre year here IMO.
Besides, I don’t wanna end up with some pukes like the ’Skins got in the 2nd round last year.
Don't sleep on the Redskins 2nd rounders from last year
Agree with jack here, these guys could (and probably will) come around. They were both highly touted in the draft so they have the ability. Much moreso than Miles Austin. Odds are one of them will be very good.
Me too but as soon as you do
you’ll have the same fans that criticize Jerry about resigning Crayton (for peanuts) criticizing him for doing the same with Austin. It’s worth it though.
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I think that if the Jets were willing to part with a 2nd round pick for him then they must be really desperate or see something that says he is going to be great. It’s not that I don’t like Austin but there are better WR’s available still in free agency that they could sign. I think that no matter what happens we should draft a WR this year. This is a a fairly deep draft for WR’s and we could get a guy with good upside in the middle rounds.
its an interesting discussion
While I would really prefer to keep austin, given our lack of receiver depth and need for a deep threat, I wouldn’t really complain if the jets threw a bunch of money at him and we decided to just take the pick. It would allow us to be much more creative on draft day, and we could fill more holes.
I hate drafting receivers though. It is by far the most difficult position to predict nfl success with.
I wouldnt say by far
OL and QB are notoriously hard positions to fill through the draft… at least for the cowboys that is.
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by rchawk12 on May 19, 2008 2:01 PM CDT
4th year wonder
and he was about to become the second receiver over Crayton until he reinjured his knee
I'll bet he's a 4th year wonder
But I hopped on the Austin bandwagon since he took over for Tyson Thompson(I believe that was his name? 3rd string RB a few years ago.) returning kick offs. Always looked like one of those projects that was actually going to work out. I’m excited to see it coming true.
I’d be somewhat sad to see him go…but two back to back picks in the second round would totally cheer me up.
But yeah, 4th year wonder I’d love to see flourish here.
Epic Fail since 1985
I hope he a Wonder.
Last year was a very different year for younger players. Do you really think we would have seen as much of Scandrick , Jenkins and Choice if it weren’t for injuries. Hell even Proctor got on the field more than he should have. Austin could be great with his speed, but he has to stay on the field. Talent isn’t the question or Terry Glenn would still be with us. Can he contribute consistantly ? Will our coaching staff give him enough plays to make him productive? Will he stay healthy?
Jerry will probably be wrong no matter what he does. If he lets Austin go and he performs well. You know what will be said. If Austin stays and doesn’t or gets injured again. Same thing. Given the track record, I might have a tendency to take the pick if offered and let the chips fall as they may. Get that receiver in the draft.
Good Post AFB
In ready your post, I found myself wondering why we were even screwing around with this. Your previous post showed that our defence wasn’t that bad, and yet the mock drafts seem to indicate the picks leaning heavily to the defensive side. Trade the picks needed to get a quality receiver and if Austin stays or goes becomes a non-issue. Oh yeah, we did that last year. Williams is our quality receiver { I hope } . If Austin goes, trade what we need to get a quality receiver in the draft. We have a lot of potential on the roster now ,but need to make sure that there is a viable alternative. If there is no one we really like early, then pick up a veteran roster cut for the short term and draft next year.
Oooohhh!! Randal Williams!!
Now that guy was stiffer than Austin and Roy put together.
Could hang with Usain Bolt in a straight line though.
"I see the door, I just get off on running through the wall." - Young Tripp
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Apr 10, 2009 7:18 AM CDT reply actions
And bricks for hands. The Raiders finally turned him into a TE I think
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lmao
Randal Williams gets a mention. That’s a name I never thought would be spoke again. He too was to be the savior of the franchise. Thanks for coming out. Your the next contestant. Those aren’t bricks on your arms.
Cowboys have to retain Austin
they really have no other choice because there isn’t another WR on the roster who can stretch opposing defenses like Austin.
Despite what some people may think, we’re not going to draft anyone at #51who will be better.
In Romo we Trust
Wait haven’t you heard..?
The cowboys are just supposed to run on every down next year (even on 3rd and 12) so the team doesn’t need any wide receivers.
They can just get a slow Tory Holt to replace Austin and make themselves an even easier team to defend.
Just think ,we can all proudly watch the Cowboys dispose of their two fastest wide outs, from last year, in the same off-season
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
Austin isnt our savior
Teams Cheat and stack men in the box because they dont believe in the qb good qbs dont need a speed reciever to be good. we have 2 good tight ends 2 good possesion recievers a lighting quick back who can play the slot. A probowl QB named Tony Romo maybe you forgot who he was.
09+24+28+23+82+11+94+41+26+31+90+32+56=2009 Success!!!!
Well...
We’re all going to forget who Romo is when the team runs the ball on every single down next year (as has been suggested numerous times on here). And actually teams do cheat and stack men in the box when they don’t have anything to fear down the field. Take away any sort of vertical threat and you take away Romo’s ability burn someone big when he’s improvising on a broken down play.
Just compare the types of defensive looks that Dante Culpepper faced with Moss on his team as opposed to without. IMHO the 53rd pick in the draft (or whatever number it is they would receive from the Jets) isn’t their savior either. Even if they package these two late picks together and move up.
If Dallas looses Austin then RW becomes their youngest starter at 29 next year. Patrick Crayton will be 30, and the Holt (whom so many else believe will suddenly revive himself if he came to big D) would be ancient. Add to that that Hurd and Stanback aren’t sh#t either. I’d just love to see Dallas groom their own wide out again someday. It’s only been, what, like nearly 20 years since they last did this effectively?
Unless the Jets offer him some outrageous contract then the Boys should match and make do with one less pick in this year’s draft. Something about this feels like Jimmy Smith all over again to me.
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
Sure they do.
There’s quite a few FAs still available for a stop gap measure.
Res firma mitescere nescit
If we only still had TO ...
I would gladly trade Austin for the 52nd pick. But the problem I have with this is sscenario is all the time the Dallas coaches have put into grooming him. If they think he can be a starter in this league (and they do) then I want to give him a chance. We would be so thin at receiver, but there are free agents who could man the spot for a year or two while we groom others. I would then keep all of our picks and draft 3 receivers in the middle-to-late rounds. But the pick is tempting because for all Austin’s potential, the pick has more value at this point.
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