Meta Media Wednesday: Let Gruden be Chucky -- Please
You're probably heard the promising news that Jon Gruden will replace the insufferable Tony Kornheiser on ESPN's Monday Night Football announcing team.
That's a good start. Gruden is the most inspired hiring in years, though we're guaranteed no improvements unless Gruden is willing to let his Chucky personality run free on air. I'm hopeful, but not enthusiastic about this last point.
Gruden could work for two reasons. Network announcing teams too often employ former players, members of what Howard Cosell derisively called the "jockocracy." Some players are smart, and provide a comprehensive view of the game. But too many of them lock in on their old positions -- former QBs talk exclusively about quarterback play. Former running backs talk about the backfield.
I've argued that the best choices for the booth would be former coordinators. They study tape for a living and have a comprehensive view of the game. Gruden has been a top-level OC and head coach for years. There's no doubt he will understand the game unfolding in front of him better than most. If he can articulate that insight in simple, real-time terms, we fans will have a chance for enlightenment.
What's more, ESPN uses a three man booth, and Gruden will be paired with tape-head Ron Jaworski. Announcer teams work better when they fill one of two templates: the self-evident, hardcore analyst team, or the Odd-Couple team, where two contrary personalities joust.
Gruden and Jaworski should give us better analysis than we've heard in a while. One expert is good, but he really needs a second strong opinion to maximize his talents. One of the best broadcasts I ever heard came decades ago, in a CBS Sports summer boardcast of a Pan American Games match between the US Mens basketball team and Puerto Rico's. In the booth that day were Gary Bender, Bill Russell and Bobby Knight.
Russell was CBS's NBA commentator and had a reputation for aloofness and arrogance. Knight, as always, was Knight, loud and abrasive. Together, they formed a mutual respect society; I understood after two minutes that neither was bad so much as bored; they didn't have a TV partner who shared their knowledge and passion. They brushed aside Bender, who had the good sense to mute himself, and talked hard-core hoops. I learned more about the game that afternoon that I had in a short lifetime of viewing.
Jaworski and Gruden could give us that transcendent experience. If they're really smart, and brave, they'll take a few hours and watch some old tapes of Howard Cosell and Dandy Don Meredith. Those guys created TV history because they saw themselves as above the game. They were competing with sitcoms on other networks and they were as good, in their time, as the most seasoned comedy teams. In its glory days, Monday Night Football was a sitcom with a football game happening inside it. Ironically, the broadcasts have suffered since the producers started foregrounding the football.
Neither Jaworski nor Gruden are comedians, but they're both rough-hewn types, who don't lack for opinions. If they're willing to take sides in a game and critique the coaches and players, MNF could regain some much needed spark. Jaws and Chucky could do Howard and Dandy one better: they could form a expert and an odd couple booth.
Sadly, I don't think Gruden will be up for it, and I don't know if I can fault him if he doesn't rise to the opportunity. Gruden no doubt wants to return to the sidelines, so he will probably go easy on his coaching colleagues. There's no need to make enemies.
Oh well. If he and Jaws stick to football, and keep Tirico focused on the basics, like down and distance, Monday night football might be watchable again. Kornheiser was an interesting experiment, but his premediated editorials didn't translate well from newspapers, or even from PTL into a medium which relies on quick analyses and a quicker wit. The first time he tried comparing an NFL game to a '50s Broadway musical, I knew the experiment was doomed.
I'll take football talk, in any strength I can get.
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Insufferable
is the perfect word. Korny was the worst since the Dennis Miller disaster.
Get football guys.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 20, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Miller was better than Kornheiser.
In my opinion.
by Baked Potato Soup on May 20, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A turtle
passing a rock looks fast.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 20, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone remember Rush Limbaugh?
Talk about destined to fail…
None of them, in my opinion, are as bad as Theisman.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on May 20, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
I was rummaging in the fridge during Limbaugh’s stint as a football guru. By the time I got back to the couch, Rush’s sportscasting career was over.
Someone called him later to explain that Donovan McNabb is not the only black guy playing pro football, but Rush cut him off in mid-sentence.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 20, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
careful...
we’re talking about the king of the republican party here… better not to mix politics
LOL
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 20, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
this is strictly about Mr. Limbaugh’s career as a sportscaster. None of that scary political stuff.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 20, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the fact of the matter is that both Gruden and Jaws
are both in love with QBs and the QB position, so needless to say that MNF will become a lovefest for the QBs that will play each Monday night.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 20, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Like ... ya know... along the lines of a Terry - Romo luv fest? Or just your regular garden variety kind?
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 20, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not so fast
Gruden loved quarterbacks in the same way Warren Beatty used to love women — he loved them ALL.
It’s why he’s announcing. The guy could never find a quarterback to develop and stick with him. I think he’s going to be interesting. At least I hope so.
by Rafael Vela on May 20, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and that's exactly my point
He’ll be singing the praises of all the qbs that play, and Jaws isn’t really much different in that regard.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 20, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad they got rid of Kornheiser
Because he was terrible – often had to be cut off mid sentence when the game would interrupt his monologues.
But ultimately I don’t care, because Sunday night football is light years ahead of Monday night football IMO. In every aspect – including presentation, commentary, and matchups.
by gaz0425 on May 20, 2009 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Got carried away there
The matchups are about even, when I think about it.
by gaz0425 on May 20, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see an incentive for Gruden to chew up coaches
if he could take their job. I’m sure Gruden is angling for a HC job.
by AustonianAggie on May 20, 2009 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chicago would be ripe - get a star QB, inherit another quality tampa-2 defense
by AustonianAggie on May 20, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago's defense
Has been living off of reputation the last two years.
They have a horrible pass rush.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 20, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see them at all last year
and I always thought they were under sized vs NFC East teams, even the year they made the superbowl. That said I thought they performed all right on D last year
by AustonianAggie on May 20, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were good against the run.
But were horrid against the pass.
They ranked 30th and had 28 sacks.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 20, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alas...
…a quick tribute to Mr. Kornheiser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RO82Rwdj1o
Hooah.
by .FRoST.USAF on May 20, 2009 10:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Proof that God Loves Us
Tony Kornheiser is no longer on MNF. Thank you, Good Lord
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on May 20, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chucky
Was awesome during the NFL network’s coverage of the draft. I am looking forward to this. Not a fan of Tirico though. He bugs the crap out of me and i don’t even know why.
Anomoly............Coming Soon.
by goat3000 on May 20, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gruden is never afraid of a fight
I don’t think he’ll care about criticizing anyone. The real questions are:
- how hard will Jaws try to get along with him? Jaworski has a tendency to try to hard to get along with everyone that comes across phony.
- how much will the Cowboys get bashed since both are Eagles guys?
- what’s the over/under for the numbers of quarters before Chucky drops an F-bomb? I give it until the 3rd quarter of the first game. If they have to put the game on a delay to beep him, he’ll be my favorite broadcaster ever.
In the end, I’m just happy he’ll be doing this for a few years. This will probably keep him from taking the Cowboys HC job next year, which I think is a good thing. I don’t like his inability to stick with a QB.
by rhbgsherb on May 20, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't raise your expectations...it's not sports, its' ESPN
HBO has a tag-line, “It’s not TV, it’s HBO.” If ESPN has a similar, more ironic tag-line, it would be, “It’s not sports, it’s ESPN.” ESPN has become so intolerably milquetoast, even Walt Disney is probably wincing in embarassment.
If Gruden were encouraged and allowed to be his true self (minus the expletives of course), then he would be phenomenal on MNF. However, since ESPN doesn’t foster or allow anything remotely close to irreverant, or subversive or outside the box, then you can pretty much bet that the broadcast with Gruden will be nothing more than the slurp-fest that is the current broadcast. Rarely, and I mean rarely, are the ESPN announcers given the freedom to analyze honestly (look at the NBA playoffs and the ridiculously bad officiating that goes un-commented upon for clear evidence…you think Jeff Van Gundy wouldn’t love to let loose a comprehensive barrage of criticisms directed at the fossils officiating NBA games?).
Don’t expect much from the company that doesn’t even allow it’s writers the freedom to criticize broadcasters of any network.
by egtuna on May 20, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Van Gundy
You mean the biggest Kobe BaL* sucker in the history of commentating, I could probably hear less biased commentating from a lakers fan. They guy is absolutely horrendous!!!
by TONYINCC on May 20, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terry Bradshaw and Howie Long
These FOX NFL Sunday guys did an LSU bowl game a couple of years ago when LSU’s QB was throwing the ball a country mile. I thought Bradshaw was the closest thing to Meredith I had heard since the old MNF days. Long wasn’t Cosell, but there was real chemistry and enjoyment there, based on their time together on FOX.
I certainly applaud Chucky over Kornheiser, but I still think MNF could do a lot better.
by VAfan on May 20, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Best I've seen in recent history...
…was Vermeil. I saw him paired with Jaws on a MNF game a few years ago when they had two MNF broadcasts on the same night to open the season, and then he did that Atlanta/Dallas game 2 years back (where Ware had the incredible INT and TD return off of Vick) with Marshall Faulk, and Deion had to relieve him at halftime because his voice was gone.
Those times that I saw him, Vermeil consistently taught me things about what was happening on the field. As Raf says, he was at his best when paired with someone like Faulk or Jaws who could complement his expertise and draw more out of him.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on May 20, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howie and Terry!!! to replace Madden!!!!
I had no interest in that game but Man were they good.
Aikman and Buck are good. Troy is definitely the best technically out there and you can tell he does his research. Buck is kinda boring but I sayd bring back Terry and Howie.
by Jon B. on May 20, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why in the world would they hire a guy knowing he will probably coach next year?
Maybe I’m caught up in this stupid notion that Monday Night Football is supposed to transcend other telecasts. They should have the best announcers, great chemistry, and seek to foster continuity in the broadcast booth, something they haven’t really enjoyed since the days of Howard, Giff, and Fran.
I mean this gig is becoming a turnstile, and Gruden likely will return to coaching. Hell, he might even be wearing a blue star on his jacket if Wade and Co can’t get it done this year. I just don’t get why they would want a short timer for their premier telecast.
by Boundforbeach on May 20, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
First off, EXCELLENT WRITE UP, RAF... truly one of the best pieces I have read
Just the simple insight into what makes a great broadcast… but also the Knight / Russell example. And then, to make the whole piece even better, the commentary from BTB members is also good stuff…
This isn’t meant to be another ESPN luv-fest … it is an honest assessment of some good material – that collectively should be delivered to the brass at every network covering the NFL.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 20, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tribute to Dad!
I don’t know how appropriate this is but this past week I lost my father. My dad is the reason I’m a huge Cowboy’s fan as he started the tradition of supporting the silver and blue. One of my fondest memories is of my dad, my brother and I freezing our a** off in Texas Stadium watching the Cowboys whoop up on the Vikings in the 1977 NFC Championship game. I can still recall my brother nonchalantly stating "hey that guys on fire". And sure enough there was a fan dressed up in a Santa Clause outfit who’s Santa’s suit caught fire and had to be taken out of Texas Stadium on a stretcher.
After a big win or a tough loss Dad and I could spend hours dissecting each game. With fathers day approaching I want to send a shot out to all dads but especially those who are Cowboy fans.
by Este on May 20, 2009 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am sorry for your loss
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on May 20, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Thoughts & prayers are with ya..
Hooah.
by .FRoST.USAF on May 20, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best
wishes and prayers to you and yours this Father’s Day, Este.
Cowboy football is a family tradition at our house too. Win or lose, I always get the “how ’bout them Cowboys” phone call from my dad after every game.
Deepest condolences on your loss, and thanks for sharing.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 20, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My sympathies
me too. We buried my dad in a Cowboys sweatshirt.
by Elwood62 on May 20, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for your loss...
When my Grandfather passes, I expected a tearful funeral… and while this was in part true, I was surprised to see how many people wanted to also celebrate all of the great things about the guy – telling stories and remembering the laughs. Sounds like your father left you a TON of great memories to reflect on…
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 20, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
[new topic] Cowboys sign Seawright
I didn’t find anything written on the blog about the Seawright signing. Perhaps its so uninspired that no one commented? Or perhaps I just missed it.
Either way – my comments: why are we in love with players who have been out of the league? And are we really going to give a roster spot to a player who, while a clear need for us, couldn’t make any other team’s roster?
Spears will play NT? Unlikely. The kid got pushed around in the middle last year during pre-season. Next we’ll try Cory Procter there in the middle.
Why oh why Jerry didnt you draft one DT?
by Eagles suck on May 20, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's a camp body
unless he shows up as something special… as far as I can tell, Dallas is looking for any spare part that can hold up a double team in the run game to back up Ratliff
by AustonianAggie on May 21, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
have you looked at some of this guy's history?
He apparently had a very good TC with the Giants … and given the G-men’s DL depth, there’s no shame in getting released to find a job elsewhere.
I have little expectation here, but there’s potential.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 21, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gruden to me, means another season of MUTE.
Family, Friends, Cowboys, Beer & BBQ. Life is good!
by CowboyMan on May 21, 2009 1:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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