Wade's World! Wade's World!
Party time? Excellent?
The answers to those questions -- for Wade and for us -- are months away. In the meantime, it's amazing to see how much he's turned over the defense in just two years. Like Bill Parcells, Wade Phillips was mostly content to play with the hand dealt him his inaugural year. Yes, the Cowboys selected Anthony Spencer in the first round, but he was a hedge against a slow rehab by Greg Ellis, who had torn an Achilles tendon in the Tuna's final go-round.
Wade went 13-3 with Bill's guys, and went one-and-out in the playoffs when the backup corner depth let him down. Jacques Reeves and Nate Jones couldn't hold up against the Patriots and Giants of the world and Anthony Henry wasn't getting any younger. To no one's surprise, Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick got early attention in last year's draft.
What may have surprised some is how big a second helping of defensive back seven help Wade and the scouts took this year: three of Dallas' first five picks were for linebackers. Then, four of the next six picks went on secondary players, though Stephen Hodge will likely be groomed to take Kevin Burnett's nickel linebacker role, if top pick Jason Williams doesn't beat Hodge to it.
This means that before Wade Anno Tre even begins, the heart of Bill's last '06 defensive back seven has either departed or is on very thin ice. Consider:
In the secondary, only Terence Newman is assured a starting spot. And only Pat Watkins remains from the backups, though the odds are not in Watkins' favor, with Orlando Scandrick getting some consideration for nickel safety and rookie DeAngelo Smith sure to get his shot. If Watkins gets cut, only one Parcells guy will remain on a unit that usually carries nine players.
Still, from '06: Terence Newman
Out: Anthony Henry, Keith Davis, Roy Williams, Jacques Reeves, Nate Jones, Aaron Glenn, Abram Elam
Maybe: Pat Watkins
At linebacker, Demarcus Ware and Bradie James are keepers from the Parcells era. As with the secondary, everybody else is either gone, or on a rent-don't-buy edict.
Still, from '06: Demarcus Ware, Bradie James
Out: Akin Ayodele, Greg Ellis, Al Singleton, Kevin Burnett, Ryan Fowler
Maybes: Bobby Carpenter, Justin Rogers
Carpenter is the Watkins of linebackers. He'll get first crack at filling Burnett's shoes, but he may be little more than a placeholder if Jason Williams or Hodge can develop quickly. Rogers wasn't on the '06 team, arriving as a waiver claim after the final '07 cutdowns, but he's another Bruce Read Era special teams maybe; he's made the team with his kick coverage skills, but can't get on the field in regular defensive packages. That spells trouble in a year when Dallas drafted heavily for special teams.
The bottom line is a grim one if you're a member of the Parcells-Ireland Academy. Linebackers and secondary players get seventeen to eighteen spots on a roster. This year, we're going to see five Tuna guys at most and as few as three in those two corps.
Anybody want to guess that Dallas won't go hard for defensive linemen next year, whether Wade returns or not? Four Parcells guys are still around, but three, Marcus Spears, Jason Hatcher and Stephen Bowen, know they need to crank it up a notch or two or the scouts will come for their jobs too.
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interesting
especailly considering how hyped Parcels is as a talent evaluator
1st fyi
by AustonianAggie on May 26, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yes but lets consider it a process
consider pre parcells era, we had holes every where, offense, defense, LB, CB, DL, etc. etc. so you can’t replace everybody in 2 or 3 years. we have gotten progressively better. Henry was an upgrade. Roy Williams was a hold over. we knew we had issues with FS and that’s why we brought in hamlin. so we knew we needed upgrades over reeves and jones two 7th rounders. it was a matter of when. we missed on some picks on the OL over the years, which forced us to continue to pick OL men and not pay attention to these other areas.
to completely over haul a team it takes about 5 years. plus average life in the NFL is about 3.5 years so some of the bottom feeding members will be replaced. BP called churining the bottom of the roster to keep the pressure on.
plus, Our first year with parcells was a wash because we went 10-6 and parcells admitted he didn’t see things as they were and wasted a year with the group he needed to replace.
by CowboysFanatic on May 27, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isnt it Stephen Hodge?
Im hoping for D line and Oline next year.. And maybe even a SS :-) Taylor Mays im coming for you..
by regaberto on May 26, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rebuilding?
Hah! Right under our noses.
by THEjarhead on May 26, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
when you're 9-7 three of four years
you get no complaints from me if you don’t rip up big chunks of the team and rebuild.
by Rafael Vela on May 26, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that if you DO rip up big chunks of the team...
by Rafael Vela on May 26, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
I don’t want the Cowboys to not get rid of all of Parcells scrubs.
by DoomsdayD75 on May 26, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
When people start wanting to keep everyone I start asking myself why.
You have to make changes or you will get the same results over and over again.
I am not a Wade fan, but I do like that he’s the pass rush clicking and I don’t expect that to take that much of a hit with Ellis now gone.
What we need to do is start creating more turnovers. Then more big hits and more game changing plays in the fourth quarter.
Case in point. The Ravens game from last season.
The offense finally got it together and puts up some points. All the defense has to do is shut down the Ravens offense, which is being run by a rookie QB, and I have confidence Romo would have lead us to the win.
But instead they fold uplike a lawn chair and forget how to do the most basic aspect of football.
Tackle McGahee or McClain and we just might have been in the playoffs!
Go Cowboys!
by DCFanatic on May 27, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats the defense's way of
getting back at romo for the steeler game.
Probably not but yeah I hold the steeler game in higher regards as to why we didnt make the playoffs.
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on May 27, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Of getting back?"
Seriously?
Yeah I’m sure they were like that. Come on.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 27, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no i was kidding
but for every defense blew the game scenario there is an offense blew the game one.
I feel this team lost alot of its heart after that steeler lost. I mean the D played their hearts out against the steelers in the steelers own home. After that the team didnt seem the same again.
Yeah yeah they beat a giants team without their number 1 running back or WR.
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on May 27, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, you've said that for months.
Well I’ll tell you what, if losing on the road to a superbowl contender(and late on winner) just completely destroys a team, than they need to implode the whole organization.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 27, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't aware there was an extra win credit for beating the Steelers.
Since you brought up the Steelers, by your rationale, shouldn’t they themselves have been equally disheartened after getting their asses absolutely handed to them by the Titans in a game that determined homefield advantage?
Champions move on from bitter losses; pretenders dwell on them.
by MadMick on May 27, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man...
Dude it is scary how in sync you’ve been with me lately. You pretty much summed it up completely.
The Steelers game was a heartbreaker but the Giants game meant more in the long run anyways.
I don’t care if they were out whomever, to go out and completely obliterate New York(which they did), a division rival whom it meant more in the longrun… showed that they didn’t lose their heart.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 27, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually blame the Ravens game
how could we have been so bad in that game. we gave up two long TDs at the end after having crawled back. we gave up to INTs that turned into scores. offense was plain horrible in that game. and that was the last texas stadium game.
by CowboysFanatic on May 27, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the two INT's only turned into one score that amounted to THREE points.
Anybody giving the defense any kind of pass for the Ravens debacle is being inconsistent. I bet if you went back and checked, the Steelers haven’t given up two runs that long in the past five years as the Cowboys gave up in the final five minutes against the Ravens.
You’re not plain horrible when you put up 24 against the Ravens. The Steelers certainly weren’t any better offensively in any of their three wins over the Ravens but their defense didn’t use that as an excuse to have breakdowns.
by MadMick on May 27, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent write up
makes me re-think some things i thought about Parcells and Wade.
Booyah!
by what_the_crap on May 26, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What did we start off with after three 5-11 seasons?
We had maybe three guys who could start on other teams:
Ellis
Adams
Gurode (who never came around until three years ago).
Williams (I guess, but when the bottom dropped out, man it dropped out).
I guess thats four.
Rebuilding is continuous.
by THEjarhead on May 26, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Newman and witten were drafted in BP's first year...
He didn’t inherit them.
by THEjarhead on May 26, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think the churn...
… is any commentary on Parcells as much as it does underscore a difference of schemes.
by Joey2zs on May 26, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Parcells has won wherever he’s been. Wade (who can’t say the same) now has a locker room full of guys he endorses and that can play in his scheme, his way. Let’s see what he can do with them.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on May 26, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wade has won everywhere he's been, whatever you are insinuating
by AustonianAggie on May 26, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won what?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on May 26, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he's only had one losing record in his HC career, I believe
and what did Bill win during his stint here? Wade’s already accomplished more here than BP did…
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on May 26, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did Wade accomplish that BP did not?
And do not feed me that Wade Phillips happy horse sh$t that a first round bye is that same as a playoff win
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on May 26, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was simply talking about the amount of games Wade managed to win
A tad bit testy, aren’t you?
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on May 27, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BP Did what
That first round bye is as far in the playoffs we’ve been in ten years and Did BP ever win the division
by regaberto on May 27, 2009 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but you have to consider
BP started the rebuilding project. it takes 4-5 years to truly build a team from scratch and that’s what we did. remember hambrick, goodrich, carter, and I can’t recall who was on the OL then. or who was the DL or LBs (yeah another hambrick).
that team couldn’t beat the college national champions. that’s how bad they were. we had to replace QB, RB, WRs, DL, OL, LBs, Saftey, CB, kicker and punter.
in two years we had replaced most and had winning season with a play off appearance. that was in 4 drafts and off season and about 30 draft picks replacing 45 roster spots knowing that you will miss some draft picks. that’s pretty good.
rebuilding a team happens in phases and now is the second phase of it. adding depth. replacing the players that were not good enough, etc.
wade got a good team, he is just taking it the next step. BP is good in rebuilding. perhaps wade is good at taking it the next step, at least defensively.
by CowboysFanatic on May 27, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
See my previous post. BP started with virtually nothing, WP started with a strong core intact.
by THEjarhead on May 26, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Canty, Spears, theres a lot of ‘parcels’ guys who have been mediocre. Just because Parcels drafts you doesn’t make you good. Dallas has profited from it’s re-investment in drafting science, and stabilizing Dallas’ method for anticipating player growth (the 3 year thing) are all very strong improvements he helped bring about
Aaron Glenn, Akin Ayodele were free agents, as was Al Singleton
by AustonianAggie on May 26, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that's what BP taught Jerry
let your scouting dept. evaluate talent. argue over the picks with the management during draft and make your draft selection according on how you evaluate the players not what you think they could be and wish them to be (goodrich, carter, carver, etc.).
by the way the two examples you use are DEs in a 3-4. guys that will never ever have stats on their side in a the 3-4 defense. but lets not forget that he did develop Romo, barber, crayton, witten, james. involved in drafting newman, ware.
you can’t pick HOFers or probowlers with every draft pick. you will have some first rounders fail (carpenter). you will have mor elow round picks fail. its inevitable. every team experiences the same thing.
and that re-investment comes from BP and how to run a football team.
by CowboysFanatic on May 27, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mostly you r right, but I think that the core
of Romo, MBIII, Crayton, Witten, James…….non of them was higher than the 4round pick. BP was very good in finding late rounds talented players, but blew many high rounds. Carpenter, Fasano, S.Green even J.Jones the RB was good only for half a season
by dcfanz on May 27, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Party on Wayne
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 26, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol - was waitin' for it...
Party on, Garth.
Hooah.
by .FRoST.USAF on May 26, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Double shwing!

Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 26, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're not worthy!
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 26, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill had a different system of 3-4 which needed bigger guys.
Wade is more of a speed freak so yea, you would need to change some personnel
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 26, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mrs. Doubtfire
Bill Parcells was an unsuccessful mole, who never fit in Dallas. From Loose Bowels to Jason Ferguson, most of the Bill Parcells Guys (coaches and players) have been run out of Valley Ranch, which is a good thing. The only mole left is the beleaguered Tony Romo, whom the Cowboys should have traded to Miami last year, along with Akin, Bobby, and Fasano for the #1 pick, see Matt Ryan.
This weekend in Montecito, Jimmy Connors shot a 72 on Sunday to win the Montecito Country Club’s Golf Championship. Yes, the tennis great Jimmy Connors, now 56 years of age. He staved off a number of challengers, including Tex, displaying the heart of a champion, even in another sport. That was one trait that Mrs. Doubtfire never brought to Dallas, the championship mentality. Now, being a jersey guy, many would consider that intentional. The bra-wearing coach took Jerry’s money, but never delivered, and has left the franchise stuck with an un-drafted QB who’s folds like a cheap suit under pressure.
What Romo and the Cowboys lack is what made Connor great… the heart of a champion.
by Montecito Tex on May 26, 2009 6:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We are all dumber for having read that.
i award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by DoomsdayD75 on May 26, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES
I applaud any Billy Madison reference!
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 26, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here here...
Monte you may now go kick rocks…
Deo Vindice Veritas,
by SmittyCityMo on May 27, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! Pull out the Billy Madison quotes
“At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.”
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on May 27, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we hold back on the Matt Ryan love for now?
1 Year. 1 Really good year, but still just one year.
I like Matt Ryan, but you don’t how he’s going to progress over the next few years.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 26, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe Monte would endorse a QB who never won a playoff game, and who's team folded at the end of the year!!
It was Ryan’s fault, ya know.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 27, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
... and the brain of a fratboy
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/27855898/
No thanks … I’ll keep Romo.
Besides, I thought the club championship was last weekend…
Congratulations Bob Hayes
"I played for the world's greatest professional sports team in history. Once a Dallas Cowboy, always a Dallas Cowboy." - Bob Hayes
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com
by Raul Villaronga on May 26, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what was all that
lets not forget before parcells we were 5-11, 5-11, 5-11 we couldn’t spell playoffs if you would spot us p-l-a-y-o-f and then draw half the f as well. we had carter, hambrick in our back field. another hambrick as the LB. dwaune goodrich was a starting corner along with edwards. do you remember who our center was? who was the punter? or the kicker? who manned the middle on the DL? yeah we had the great sure to be HOFer, prenial probowler greg ellis at one DE and a string of failures at the other.
he started the rebuilding project over 4 years with 30 draft picks and FA having replaced 45 of the players from that team and made two play off appearances. otherwise we would have continued to toil at 5-11 and 3-13 eventually.
and yes before this Mr. Romo who you hate so much, we had the likes of Ryan Leaf, Quincty Carter, and can’t recall the rest they were so bad.
heart of the champion comes from within. I can’t install one for you. and yes the bottom feeding cowboys went from sucking so bad to one of the better teams. if you can’t recall we were top 10 offense the last two years BP was here and in fact we were top 5 offense in case you forgot.
you have no idea what it takes to build and run a football team. you just gripe like an old man. always finding something to complain about, always glass half empty.
by CowboysFanatic on May 27, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parcells strength is getting the most out of what he has.
He even said the draft was a crap shoot.
That playoff year with Quincy at the helm was HOF coaching in action.
by BigE on May 26, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point
He made it to the playoffs with Quincy Carter and Troy Hambrick. He should get into the HOF for that reason alone.
by DoomsdayD75 on May 26, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like the moves we've made in the draft and free agency
in the Phillips-era. He’s clearly going for a more aggressive, play making D, and knows exactly what he needs to have in order to make it happen. Kudos on the great write up.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on May 26, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
It will be interesting this year to actually see “Wade’s World” on the field. The vets should all be well-rehearsed in his system, and he has cleared room for this first pick, Spencer, to become a star.
Become a star, Spence…become a star.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 26, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not gonna happen dog.
Spencer is in the clouds. He will be overtaken by Butler or Williams down the stretch.
I wish Spence would get his act together though.
WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 26, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should at least hold down the fort until one of the rooks learn both the position and the pro game.
Spence’s got just this year to prove it, cuz—like you said—those guys will be nipping at his heels for playing time. I’m looking for Wade to get some sort of rotation in by midseason.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 26, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't count on it Carl.......lol
To expect two 4th round picks to overtake Spencer is asking a little much..Spencer may have had a brain fart in the off season, but if he can stay healthy he is going to be a beast off the edge as we saw when he came back healthy the end of last season. Like it or not Spencer is the future opposite Ware, not Butler or Williams…
by Boyzfan94 on May 26, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spencer is in the clouds?
Are you saying that he is on drugs? Or is he just a dumb football player?
by DoomsdayD75 on May 27, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know people close to him in his personal life
And they say all he does is chase women (of questionable age, I’ve seen pictures), drink, and chill. He’s not the type of guy gettin up in the morning to run hills or squeeze an extra weight session in. Football is just not his top priority.
With that said, maybe he will respond positively to Ellis’ departure, and take this more serious.
People think I have something against Spence, which is untrue. I’m pulling for him. I’m just telling you what I know.
WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 27, 2009 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quote me on this:
It is only a matter of time before we see another Anthony Spencer mugshot.
WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 27, 2009 6:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Destined
for Oakland, sounds like.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 27, 2009 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully this new locker room mentality will bring out his best
Now that he knows the team is counting on him, maybe he can cut down on the partying and put more into getting better at his craft as you suggest.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on May 27, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope your wrong on this one.....
but as long as he tears is up on Sunday, I could care less how much partying he does. Some of best football players of all time were party animals and it didn’t affect there performance on Sunday….LT anyone?
by Boyzfan94 on May 27, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and whats wrong with chasing women
especially of questionable age,lol, and drinking?? The greatest baseball player of all time had those same traits and it never stopped him from becoming an icon or legend.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 27, 2009 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Willie Mays never did that...
because I know you aren’t saying that Mickey Mantle or Babe Ruth were the greatest.
WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 27, 2009 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course Babe Ruth was the grestest
it’s not even close Carl, not even close.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 27, 2009 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im gonna have to go with Mays on this one :-)
by regaberto on May 27, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ty Cobb
You didn’t mess with that guy. He’d go into a base cleats out and sharpened.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on May 27, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cobb
went into the stands to clobber a handicapped fan.
Good player, but complete jerk.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 27, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy shouldn't have messed with him ;)
He was the most hated player in baseball, for sure.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on May 27, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he
beats up crippled fans in the stands, small wonder he was hated.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 29, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So HBO's Cobb biopic got it right for the most part?
That one really made him out to be a bastard.
by MadMick on May 29, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was about 5 years old
when my grandfather took me to Shea Stadium to see the Mets play the Giants. As we walked into the stadium, he told me he wanted to be sure that I saw Willie Mays play baseball, because Willie was the second best baseball player he had ever seen, after Babe Ruth.
I don’t remember much about the game except that I got sick from eating so many hot dogs, but I do remember that conversation
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on May 27, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is the Babe, then there is everyone else
Hank Aaron, Mays, Ted Williams, Mantle and Dimaggio are all distant seconds to the Big Bambino.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 27, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ruth was one of the best pitchers
before he became the greatest home run hitter that ever lived. Top that Mays!
by cowboy1966 on May 27, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Career ERA of 2.28
Won over 18 games in a season 3 times. Started 148 games and finished 107 of them. 1221.1 innings pitched and only gave up 10 HR’s. Started and won 3 games in the postseason for the BoSox with 1 SHO and a .87 career postseason ERA.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
by kameleon_o on May 28, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am too lazy to look it up, but Ruth still holds a World Series Pitching Record of some sort
FTR, I am not disputing Glory’s assertion that Mays was the best ever. He was certainly the best I ever saw, but saying that Ruth is the best is far from unreasonable
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on May 28, 2009 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For me, the most amazing thing about Ruth was the
how far above everyone else he seemed to be at the time. I obviously haven’t seem him play live or anything but it just seems like he was so far and away above everyone else. I’ve personally never seen that level of dominance from a player in my lifetime.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
by kameleon_o on May 28, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Jordon
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 30, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I meant baseball.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
by kameleon_o on May 31, 2009 3:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hank Aaron all the way!
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 27, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about the possibility.....
…..That he pulls a couple of very solid seasons out of his ass and his wild wild life doesn’t cause him any serious legal problems until his next contract when he’s made a real big pile of guaranteed money and truly doesn’t give a flying handshake anymore?
Of course, that scenario is probably even worse if the Cowboys are the team giving him said pile of guaranteed money.
by MadMick on May 27, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's some interesting reading
it’s Rex Ryan’s 85 Bears defensive playbook
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2941687/1985-Chicago-Bears-Defense-94-pages
by AustonianAggie on May 26, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 26, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by SB Six on May 26, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure about releasing Ellis
I’m all for giving Spencer the starting job, but Ellis fits well as a nickel pass rusher and insurance for Spencer either getting injured or drunk. Although I didn’t think Ellis had the same burst last year that he did before…so maybe the Boys timed it just right.
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by cowboysuberfan on May 26, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the thing is, if they timed Ellis right, shouldn't we be a little concerned about the Brookings signing?
Someone explain the difference here, because it seems to me to be the same story.
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by DalaiLuke on May 27, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One difference is that Ellis was destined for third down rush specialist,
while Brookings is more every down, at least 1 and 2. Cost/benefit didn’t add up with Ellis anymore.
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by Uncle Angus on May 27, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's the difference
Ellis’ backup, Spencer, is ready to start and make an impact this season, Brooking’s backups are 2 rookies and a first rd bust who is too soft to be an every down player.
Brooking will be shown the door once either Williams or Hodges is ready.
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by Terry on May 27, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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