The Valley Ranch Review: Ware and Spencer Speak on the Greg Ellis situation; All Romo Said Was "He"
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 1:30 AM CDT
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DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer comment on Cowboys moving Greg Ellis. (via NewsDFW)
Hat tip to DCFanatic for the video link.
With the Cowboys ready for life after Greg Ellis, fellow linebacker DeMarcus Ware talked about Ellis' leadership and the business aspect of pro football.
"He was a mentor to me when I first came in and also we became really good friends," said defensive end DeMarcus Ware, who led the NFL with 20 sacks last year. "Now we're sort of like brothers. We did everything that we could to sort of help the team. But now he's going probably somewhere else to benefit that team, and I've got to do what I need to do to help this team out."
Ware stands as a potential beneficiary of any Ellis move. The Cowboys are trying to sign their best pass rusher to a long-term contract. He doesn't feel any guilt over that.
"You've got to help your team out, but also protect yourself," Ware said. "I don't feel good about it. But at the end of the day, it's a business."
Anthony Spencer sounds ready for his new role.
"For me," Spencer said, "it is [the beginning]."
[snip]
"I’ve worked hard for it, so it feels good right now," Spencer said. "I’m just trying to get better."
As for who is backing up whom.
(Brandon) Williams served as Spencer's backup at strongside outside linebacker Tuesday. Per NFL rules, (Victor) Butler is not allowed to practice yet, but (LBs coach Reggie) Herring said Butler likely will begin his career as Ware's backup at weakside outside linebacker, with veteran Justin Rogers moving to strongside outside linebacker.
But Butler and Williams are expected to work at both positions, Herring said.
More VRR after the jump.
Tim McMahon is already at it with his 53-man roster prediction. Watching the OTAs inspired him to throw 11 of the 12 draftees on the team (sorry Manuel Johnson). He's also got Junior Siavii being the only backup to Jay Ratliff, and neither Pat Watkins nor Courtney Brown making the cut.
The Sporting News ranks Ken Hamlin as the #11 safety in the league. Here's what they say about "The Hammer".
11. Ken Hamlin, Cowboys. He has great range and can track down a lot of balls playing center field. He is at his best jumping routes in zone coverage but can also match up with tight ends and wideouts in the slot.
Check out regaberto's FanShots for some other Cowboys rankings from TSN.
Tra Battle didn't last but a day after being released by Dallas on Wednesday. The Detroit Lions have already claimed the safety off waivers.
When will the media stop asking T.O. about his relationship with Tony Romo? Evidently, Romo failed to mention Owens by name last week. Are you kidding me? Here's what the new Buffalo Bill had to say:
Dude, I could care less," Owens said with a laugh following the Buffalo Bills voluntary minicamp practice Wednesday. "I mean, he doesn't mention my name, that's fine. What about it?"
Owens spoke in response to a question regarding Romo, who declined to refer to the receiver by name after the Cowboys practiced last week for the first time since Dallas released Owens in March. Though Romo didn't say anything negative, the quarterback referred to Owens with nothing more personal than "he."
Yesterday, the ceremonial ribbon was cut at the new Cowboys Stadium.
Jerry Jones and other members of the Dallas Cowboys leadership team gathered for the ceremony, along with city officials, to christen the stadium.
Those in attendance were able to watch the glass retractable end zone doors open -- an event that allowed participants to feel the full effect of sitting inside the state-of-the-art stadium.
Click here for a handheld video of the stadium's opening. Click here for DC.com's 30-minute version, or DMN's condensed minute and a half version, here.
Former Dallas special teams coach and current SpikeTV star, Joe Avezzano, recently did a Q & A with The Oregonian. Anybody know Coach Joe's record as head coach of the Oregon State Beavers, some 25 years ago? How about 6-47-2!
Romo may be more of an avid golfer, but my money is on Wade Phillips to outdrive his starting quarterback. The head coach not only helped raise money for the Babe Zaharias Foundation this past weekend; he also pulled a John Daly.
Phillips, despite having picked up his golf clubs only a couple of times this year, also authored one of the most impressive shots in the tournament. His drive on the 300-yard, par 4, 5th hole wound up 10-feet past the cup. Voigtman (his partner) rolled in the putt for an eagle 2.
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I like Spencer "you gotta bring your A game, you can't be half stepping at all"
When you listen to these guys, you realize these guys have their own leadership qualities. Spencer has been under the radar under Ellis’ shadow to some degree… now even he may prove to add a leadership element to the defense.
Don’t be surprised to see this #1 pick live up to all expectations.
That whole TO – Romo thing … perfect example of how the media can take NOTHING and make a story from it … as long as TO is involved. Yet another reason why I am happy he will no longer be distracting Romo.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 3:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
first reply to first comment
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 3:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was even more impressed with Ware.
That dude seems focused and ready to play, like tomorrow. Seriously, the guy could be holding out if he wanted until the contract situation gets completed. But, he’s out there working with his team. He’s got a good presence behind the mic too.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel good know...
…that I voted on the bill to get the stadium in Arlington :)…..however…. for the condensed 1 1/2 minute version of the stadium opening.. I feel the Ric Flair theme song would’ve been more….. suiting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqz6A2PGH_s
Hooah.
by .FRoST.USAF on May 28, 2009 3:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm if only Hamlin
actually did those things that were written last year.
"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker
by houseofprime on May 28, 2009 3:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boy...
It’s getting harder and harder to like Tony Romo.
WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 28, 2009 4:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why? I see that whole thing as media created... if Tony and TO do not get along, it is probably a 2-way street?
… as in both TO and Romo to blame… but my guess is that he’s just sick of having to talk about a guy that is not on the team.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 4:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romo just seems to be getting slimier by the day.
I get it if he’s tired of answering the questions, but he acted like they were best friends when T.O. was here. At least say the man’s name. Don’t be immature about it, because now it does look like Tony had a hand in his departure.
WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 28, 2009 4:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Its worse that the media portray TO as the ultimate villian while Romo is still the hero
by aussie_cowboy on May 28, 2009 4:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats just rediculous Glory.........
Watch the interview again. In no way did he go out of his way to NOT mention his name. Parcell’s was a different story. And since when did they act like they were best friends? I just remember Romo always saying how hard of a worker T.O. was and that he just wanted to win. Or would you have rather he called him out for being the cry baby that he was every time he didn’t get ball? Yeah, that would have went over really well. I didn’t even notice that he didn’t “use his name” until i saw the T.O. interview last night. This whole thing is stupid, I am ashamed for wasting my time actually posting about it.
by TARHEEL PAUL on May 28, 2009 4:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's worse than day time soap opera crap
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 5:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, Carl is way, way off base
Romo answered those questions in a professional manner and the fact he actually didn’t say T.O.s name means absolutely nothing.
Don’t get sucked in to the MSM garbage Carl, you’re better than that.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
This is a completely media fabricated story. I saw NOTHING out of the ordinary about how Romo spoke about TO. In fact, in nothing else he seemed reluctant to talk about it because he didn’t want to keep this story going. TO isn’t here anymore, why keep bringing it up. And the media guy that kept badgering Romo about Owens? No other than Ed Werder.
In fact, later in that interview Romo said they kept asking the same thing over and over again, and to move on.
What would you rather Romo do? Should he talk about how much he loved Owens, how it was a horrible mistake for the Cowboys to cut and that this team is now worse off because of it? Because if he said anything remotely close to that he would have been DESTROYED by fans and the media for not backing the team up.
No where in that entire interview did it occur to anyone that Romo was avoiding saying TO’s name. In fact, Todd Archer had this to say about the whole deal.
I did an informal survey of four guys who were part of Romo’s session and nobody noticed him going out of his way to make sure he didn’t say, Terrell, or T.O. He did say he wanted to keep the matter private if he had talked to Owens since the Cowboys released the receiver. That’s fine.
There have been and will be enough things to generate headlines from and about Owens and Romo this year but to make something out of this, in the words of my good buddy, JJT, ridiculous.
I am so sick and tired of this “As The World Turns” over-analysis of what a player says, how he says it or what specific words were used at all. This is freaking football, not some damn reality show. All that matters is what happens on the football field.
All I know is that Aikman, Irvin and Emmitt must be freaking ecstatic that the internet wasn’t around in the early Nineties. What would the reaction around here have been when Emmitt held out for two games, which the Cowboys lost? He would have been blasted and vilified. Aikman wasn’t perfect in the media when things weren’t going well. Irvin did….well Irvin did some stupid stuff. But you know what? The won on the football field, so matter cared.
Just keep working hard Tony, and just ignore the media when they ask you about T.O. I don’t mind, in fact I prefer it.
Defending Big D: A Dallas Stars blog on SBN: easy to use, free to join.
by Brandon Worley on May 28, 2009 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And another thing that pisses me off about the media and ESPN.
Although I really shouldn’t care.
But now Joe Everyday Football Fan is going to see this ESPN story and all they will hear is “Romo refused to say T.O.’s name in interview, Owens responds”. No context, and no mention of the fact that whole thing became a story because of a question some reporter in Buffalo asked T.O. So now, the average NFL fan, or worse yet, the average Cowboys fan will get this story instead of the entire story without EVER having actually seen that interview, and come away with a lowered opinion of Romo. He’s already on the hotbed because he hasn’t won in the playoffs yet (despite the fact neither loss was directly his fault, bad hold or no), and it pisses me off to think that he’s getting a bad rap for something he didn’t do or say.
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by Brandon Worley on May 28, 2009 6:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
romo's a joke
look people, lets all be real honest here…
romo is a talented guy, sure. He makes some plays that other guys couldnt {{his feet let him make plays our beloved #8 couldnt dream of}}. romo has a nice arm, and hes fun to watch because he wants to throw it deep everytime. exciting football sells tickets and jerseys!!! but lets be honest folks — more often than not hes ill-prepared, he makes unsound decisions with the football and his erratic leadership jeopardizes the whole organization….
we can rehash the failed fg attempt, we can put a spin on late-season collapses, we can totally write off monday nite in buffalo, nevermind the guy was in mexico partyin when he shouldve been workin, we can blame it all on TO – OR WE CAN BELIEVE OUR OWN EYES WHEN WE SEE A GUY MORE INTERESTED IN THE OFF-FIELD SPOILS THAN THE ON-FIELD DEDICATION. i know, i know. ya think his smile is adorable, ya like his “gunslinger” rep, ya wanna believe but….
the guy has hamstrung the teams finances because hes a mediocre QB with a icon contract. he’s consistently submarined good teams on the field. hes turned into a tabloid freak…..
from her dad to her b/f, jessica has some slimy men in her life doesnt she
IRVIN is a football god, with more dedication is a drop of sweat that romo has in his whole body. IRVIN worked harder 1 season than romo has his whole life. IRVIN had a dedication to the star itself, and moreso to the JJ’s that money cant buy. say what ya want about his off-field — IRVIN was everything i ever want in a Dallas Cowboy
look up -- get up -- dont ever give up
by tex806 on May 28, 2009 6:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romo
is a talented kid who lacks the mental toughness to get it done when the pressure is way up. My hope is he can push himself to the next level; my expectation is that he probably won’t.
Maybe it is that sappy smirky smile that gives me doubts. He looks too much like Rowdy.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess people can publish trash like this... but replies echoing their words are unacceptable?
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on DalaiLuke, you know that's not a fair assessment
You went personal, you didn’t attack the message, you attacked the messenger, in-depth. You’ve been here long enough to know that’s not going to fly.
by Dave Halprin on May 29, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get how Irvin is comparable to Romo.
Are you trying to picture the QB in a fur coat outside the courtroom? Is there some sort of dedication-measuring device that was invented recently?
No way is Romo mediocre, and I think he’s done a good job of not blowing things up for the media. Just because he’s soft-spoken, they make it seem like he has alternative motives when he’s just trying to get through a tiny little interview after practicing his butt off.
Gosh, I can’t wait till Sanchez grabs the crush of old Werder. Then, perhaps Tony can just continue being him—just like he was when the Cowboys signed him, just like he was when he earned the starting position, just like he is today: humble.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all guys named tex must be Romo haters
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But all guys named tex should realize that Mexico is a hop, skip, and a jump away for any Cowboy.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weekend with Jessica not as bad as hotel cocaine bender with hookers
Romo vs Irvin.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on May 28, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terry, I've been away on business for a few days....
so don’t put all people in the same category just because they happen to disagree with you.
by texstar on May 29, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really didn't mean you even though tex is in your name
I think you know who I was refering
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 29, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Irvin is a CHUMP
Vince Lombardi was a football god. Joe Montana is a football god. Michael Irvin was a very good receiver -a hall of famer – but to call him a god is an insult. Yes he was dedicated, but how the hell could you rip on Romo’s off-the-field issues and compare him to cocaine-bender-with-strippers-in-a-hotel-room Irvin?
Give me a freakin’ break.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on May 28, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Irvin didn't get caught....
……..Snorting piles of cocaine off strippers’ breastesses, maybe the ‘96 team doesn’t start off so horribly (2-3) and has a good enough record to claim homefield advantage throughout.
by MadMick on May 29, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nailed it.
This is a completely media fabricated story.
Statements out of context can appear any which way. Romo was asked a direct question about Owens. He replied with a pronoun, “he”. Media makes a mountain out of a grammatical molehill, giving everybody tired head about Romo. If only he hadn’t fumbled that snap in Seattle. Cabo was a PR nightmare. Bad choice, especially when the team gets whipped the next week by the Blazing Hot Eventual Super Bowl Champion Giants.
Without those two stories, does Romo take this beating?
Romo does need coaching up during the season like Big Bill said, as his laid back attitude can get him in situations. It’s a double-edged sword.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on May 28, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good post.
good avatar too
They may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freeeeeeeedom!
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hold on Carl...
why are you defending T.O? he’s not a Cowboy…. How in the Hell can you claim “he acted like they were best friends when T.O. was here.” That’s a bullsh*t, and very unbecoming of a writer here at BTB. You have been putting knives in Tony since TO got the boot…. I’m beginning to think there is something more than meets the eye here Carl. You have constantly portrayed TO as some sort of innnocent victim of circumstance, and Tony as some sort of backstabbing bitch.
Terrel Owens is GONE…get over it, and stop hating Romo because your favorite Cowboy is now a Bill.
Deo Vindice Veritas,
by SmittyCityMo on May 28, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you are overreacting Smitty, "unbecoming of a writer here on BTB"
chill out, its only May
by dcfanz on May 28, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta disagree Carl...
Romo made every effort to get along with TO while he was here. TO’s fragile ego finally got the best of him and, once again, “it’s the QB’s fault, it’s the OC’s fault”. Well, maybe it was, but keep your mouth shut and play ball like a professional. Don’t be sniping in the locker room.
To my knowledge Romo never called TO out for running the wrong routes, quitting on routes or dropping the ball. Just because he didn’t say “Owens” or “Terrell” when talking about his former receiver is a non issue. Meanwhile, did TO take the high ground? Twittering that Romo wanted him out in Dallas. That’s just for starters… TO hasn’t finished with Romo there will be more to come I guarantee you.
Look, the media has nothing to write about until camp starts and they are manufacturing stories to fill the void. They will print whatever they think will get a rise out of TO and they’ll try to twist Romo’s words to fit whatever story line they are trying to sell.
Garrett needs to get a clue!
by BulletBob on May 28, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't it be great if one of the questioned players said what you just said?
Look, the media has nothing to write about until camp starts and they are manufacturing stories to fill the void. They will print whatever they think will get a rise out of TO and they’ll try to twist Romo’s words to fit whatever story line they are trying to sell.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on seriously are we going to analyze it so far as he did not say his name
the guy probably did not even think about it at the time yet we think it is important. there is honestly just too much reporting going on in general and this is a perfect example. Should be a non-issue.
I will be honest, there are reason I do not like the guy. He seems a little soft and obnoxious for one but then again I really love his philisophical momments. So there are reasons to love and hate him but this is not one.
by Becho on May 28, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you seriously telling Tony to be more mature?
T.O. is the one throwing ex-QB and OC under the bus… again. Romo is handling the situation like a professional and T.O. just can’t let it go. Just like he couldn’t let the “secret plays” drama go last year.
It’s also pretty insane to have a Vick apologist describing Tony Romo as “slimy”.
by DoomsdayD75 on May 28, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What, what, what?!
bite your tongue!
Deo Vindice Veritas,
by SmittyCityMo on May 28, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Romo.....
Nick and Derek over at DC.com just said Romo has looked bad in the OTA’s. They referenced Quincy Carter the way the ball has fluttered out of his hand……yikes!
by Boyzfan94 on May 28, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
out of this whole thread
this is the only point that concerns me. Romo looked like crap after the pinky injury. He was not the same qb. If the ball still isn’t coming out well in september, we’re not going anywhere this season, and our franchise may be in serious trouble.
by foyesboys on May 28, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1; the soap opera-esque melodrama does nothing for me.
Also, it should be pointed out when Kurt Warner suddenly lost his mojo the Rams boasted a hell of a lot better receivers than the Cowboys currently have. If Romo regresses, the offense will be severely handicapped.
by MadMick on May 28, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The media needs a new drama
I’m afraid it changed everything when TO and McNabb had their fallout. News swept the country about the TO suspension from the Eagles. Media fueled. TO did crunches in his driveway, and talked trash about his team. Media fueled.
It seems simple enough to understand they’re trying to re-create their finest hour. Media fueled. Romo has never fallen for the media traps. He’s said some dumb things in a microphone, but think about it. You just lost the biggest game of your life. The media hordes are beating down your door for a sound byte. When you’re already shaken up like that ( a huge loss) how many people would actually have the perfect words?
Romo, for having only played two and half seasons, has already been through a lot. Heart-breaking losses, being touted as the next great QB, his love life played out in the media, having to deal with the most difficult player in the NFL, and being hounded by the media. My take is that he has come through it, and still has his eye on the prize.
Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein.
Joe ThEEsman
by SB Six on May 29, 2009 5:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Points
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 30, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are You Kidding Me?
Romo and Owens want this crap behind them. In 5 years, is he supposed to continue to gush about Owens’ work ethic and the fact that he was a great teammate and how much he misses him? Owens was lousy for team unity and made everything about himself. He set up his T.O. clique within the team and divided the locker room. He called out Romo on numerous occasions and Tony took it in stride.
I only hope Trent Edwards doesn’t get ruined by an over the hill prima donna.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on May 28, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is Carl the celebrity troll?
just kidding. I agree with you 96.2% of the time when you aren’t talking about Romo
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
-Winston Churchill
by HudBaby on May 28, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you being facetious here?
I really, really, really hope so, lol.
Watch the clip…The kid said nothing wrong about Terrell Owens.
Your bias is standing tall here and everyone just saw it.
Now if you are willing to admit it then fine, but don’t try and deny it.
Go Cowboys!
by DCFanatic on May 28, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Terrell Owens...
Says it’s no big deal…
To him -—
Although the US media seem to be descending to the same level as the UK. Who cares if Romo won’t mention @terrellowens81 name. Move on!
about 13 hours ago from web
balancepoint
Him bacl to his fan -—-
@balancepoint EXACTLY!!! How come people dn’t recognize tht media r the 1s makin a BIG deal out of nothing!!
about 5 hours ago from web in reply to balancepoint
Go Cowboys!
by DCFanatic on May 28, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he was Black
you would be defending him…saying jeez give the guy a break.
T.O. is a Buffalo Bill now..Romo is a Cowboy….support a brother!!!!
by tb0n3 on May 29, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not so much this particular story.
It’s just the look on his face, his whole aura…it’s all wrong. I have defended Romo at times I probably shouldn’t have…but this dude is just rubbing me the wrong way. From Cabo to Jessica, to all the behind closed doors drama…I’m just getting tired.
This guy needs to win a playoff game ASAP, or tell McGee to get loose in the bullpen.
WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 28, 2009 6:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep things in perspective GD...
Much of the drama that’s wearing you down is media induced. It’s a direct by-product of being the QB of America’s Team, which puts him, his actions, his off field activities and just about everything else under incredible and unfair scrutiny. He’s still young and incredibly talented. I agree that his celebrity dalliances only feed the fire. But let’s face it. The fans want a rock star and he’s more than happy to play lead role. Don’t give up just yet.
I do share your sentiments about the “look on his face.” When he throws a pick or loses the ball, I want to go through the TV when he has that little ‘aw shucks’ smirk and smiles. If he could just act as pissed off as the rest of us, I think it would help.
by Boundforbeach on May 28, 2009 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
since when did "pissed off" become a monopoly for the only way to react?
Look at stone-faced Federer in Tennis… cool/calm Joe Montana on a bad day… even Michael Jordon was accused of “not caring because of his expression” …
Every professional athlete has his own way of learning from their mistakes, and rebounding – OFTEN IMMEDIATELY – to try and do better and win.
We cannot be in Tony Romo’s head… I have no idea what level of desire to win or hatred to lose Romo possesses.
But I do know he is at work before everyone … and leaves after everyone (like Jordan, Larry Bird … and so many other greats) … he’s not out partying all week — he’s busting his butt to improve his game. Little Jessica complains he doesn’t giver the time of day!!!
Yet all we hear is Romo’s “look on his face…”
This is what fans of soap opera talk about … not the NFL.
As George Carlin said — THIS IS WAR!!!
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh... I'm actually strongly defending Romo if you read my post
I just added that I find his little smirk to be irksome, that’s all.
by Boundforbeach on May 28, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you are... but sometimes I just get on a roll, and your reply was the victim?
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen Phillip Rivers get all pissy plenty of times and that doesn't do much for his team.
In fact, it causes tension.
It’s too hard to dissect personalities and determine whether Type-As should be in leadership roles or whether you need a ‘chill’ guy back there.
The media has to get people’s panties in bunches because conflict (creative non-fiction) is fast becoming the new journalism.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The main problem with it...
Is that there is just to much damn media out there.
So instead of being a creative person that gets the facts straight, certain media become lazy and try to sell it as something else or put an entirely different spin on things.
IMO that is the difference between good media and bad media. A good journalist or television personality doesn’t need all the bullcrap that is more US Weekly and less Sports Illustrated.
You think that there weren’t things that went on like this back in the 70’s? Of course there were, but there wasn’t the constant media coverage, with hundreds of sports outlets giving their respective opinions.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is it that Romo says NOTHING ... yet suddenly he's a liability ???
Cabo… Jessica… These “Romo said ‘He’ instead of TO” …
These are media-generated side-shows… the game is played between the lines… where Romo puts up Pro-Bowl numbers DESPITE an often horrible O-Line. Do people remember this O-Line with Bledsoe? Suddenly Romo appears, dodges a couple of blitzes, actually hits receivers, turns the Cowboys into CONTENDERS IN EVERY GAME … and all of a sudden he’s the worst thing that ever happened to Dallas???
Tell McGee to get loose in the bullpen? A guy that just finished his college exams?
Carl, I think most of your posts are EXCELLENT stuff… you are creative and insightful… but your hatred for Romo doesn’t match the reality of the situation.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like I said earlier, waaayy off base
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't realize one player can win a game
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so
it takes one missed block on a game winning FG to lose it all
by AustonianAggie on May 28, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
win as a team, lose as a team..bottom line
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
You are correct, sir.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glory, whatever you do, do not question Romo's golf game
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on May 28, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll tell you what....there might be something to this Mcgee kid...
I was hating the pick at first, but everything coming out of OTA’s suggest we might have something in this player…..Romo better watch it because it sounds like McGee could push him in a year or so…
by Boyzfan94 on May 28, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romo's talent
Gift and Curse. You would think Romo was the #1 pick in the draft.
Who would think a guy who has performed at the level Romo has would have so much scrutiny..
Drew Brees has won 1 playoff game, and Carson has none.. Yet a lot of analyst and supposed football experts rank them as top 5 Qb’s in the league..
Krazy..
Krazy..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
by Wmillion on May 28, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 great point
Cowboys fans just will never be happy unless their QB has multiple SB rings.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winning super bowls
Management and Coaching
There only 2 multiple super bowl winners in the league right now. Both won a Super Bowl with a HOF coach. One won all of them with a HOF
I don’t think Wade the HC is a HOFer.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
by Wmillion on May 28, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOF
coaches and players are those who have been inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame in Canton. Too many so-called experts like to sling the HOF label around for those they THINK should be in the HOF some day.
Stick to the facts. If they ain’t in the Hall of Fame, they ain’t a HOF coach or player.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOF
HOF is determined by a personal opinion, so why shouldn’t people interject there personal opinion. It isn’t based on milestones and stats. All about subjective and personal perspective-kind of like blogging.
So you can’t just stick to the facts.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
by Wmillion on May 28, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
saying a player is a “HOF player” is not a personal opinion. A player — actually former player — who has been inducted into the Hall of Fame, is a HOF player. Until that happens, he is not.
That is the facts, ma’am.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 29, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lovely little game of semantics you're playing.
Bellichick will definitely be in the Hall Of Fame. It’s as much of a formality as Parcells being inducted if he can just stay retired from coaching long enough to qualify.
Bill Cowher is a different story but using Madden’s coaching career as measuring stick, he’ll most likely be in one day, too.
I don’t get your outrage.
by MadMick on May 29, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No outrage
Just pointing out that a player is not a HOF player until he is inducted into the Hall of Fame.
By your logic, we could refer to a musician we like as a Grammy winner or a reporter as a Pulitzer winner, meaning we like their work and think they OUGHT to win those prizes, but the simple fact of the matter is that would be inaccurate if they haven’t won those awards.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 29, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three-time Super Bowl winning coaches are future Hall Of Famers.
Not to mention the two rings he earned as Giants D-coordinator.
If WMillion simply referred to Bellichick as a future Hall Of Famer; his statement would’ve been a thousand percent accurate. Multiple Championships and longevity get high-profile players and coaches into the Hall. Period. If this isn’t the case, please do give me your laundry list of HOF snubs who meet that criteria.
Don’t bring stuff like the Grammy awards from a totally different industry into it, because great albums don’t win championships. That’s the entertainment business. Also, I believe you aren’t eligible for the Pro Football HOF until you’ve been retired for five seasons. That’s totally different than entertainment industry awards where you’re either nominated the year your work came out or you’re not. Totally different. All-Pro is the football equivalent to Grammys; not the Hall Of Fame.
I’m not saying sportswriters can’t be just as fickle or strange a bunch as the snobs who give out the awards in other industries but the difference is in the music industry financial success isn’t the same as critical acclaim. Crap bands break sales records all the time and conversely one man’s idea of artistic genius is another’s concept of aural poo. There is no clearly defined milestone that is associated with greatness. However, in sports, true success can be and is measured on the field; not by hype or popularity.
Besides, Grammys are given on the basis of artistic merit which is a lot more abstract and subjective thing to measure than concrete goals and achievements you have in sports like championships won or amount of years having led the league in rushing. Whereas artistic merit is purely subjective, rushing crowns and Super Bowl Titles are hard facts in a player or coach’s favor. Consider this: Critic A thinks brilliant Grammy-nominated album is a once-in-a-generation masterpiece. Critic B thinks it’s pretentious crap. Super Bowl Titles are concrete and thus not subjected to such critiques. So such comparisons between music industry awards and the Pro Football Hall Of Fame are worthless.
Do you have a problem with the term Hall Of Fame-calibre or Hall Of Fame-worthy? For example, let’s imagine all the fancy pants sportswriters boycotted Brett Favre (wishy washy doesn’t-know-how-to-exit gracefully douchebag) and Bill Bellichick (cheater) when it came their turn to get voted into the Hall Of Fame. Does that make either of those guys less Hall Of Fame worthy than less accomplished counterparts like George Allen or Jim Kelly?
If somebody just egregiously threw out Jimmy Johnson and Terrell Davis as HOFers, you would be justified in calling them on it. However short of being boycotted because of Spygate, Bellichick is a shue-in. As I said in my original post, you may have a point with Cowher not deserving to be mentioned as an assumed HOFer but you’ve yet to give me the name of the coach as successful as Bellichick who got snubbed.
Me; I can’t recall the last time a guy who everybody thought was going to be a 1st-ballot HOFer got snubbed. Take Troy Aikman for instance; who never had eye-popping numbers, but everybody knew he was going to be a 1st-ballot Hall Of Famer and sure enough he was.
by MadMick on May 30, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Wmillion
HOF players are based on subjective personal opinions of sportswriters who really don’t the game of football anymore than anyone of this site.
You make it sound like HOF players are selected by objective criteria. The fact is that whether someone should become or worthy of being a HOF player is certainly debatable.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 29, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what closed doors drama?
how can you say you have any idea what went on? i’d bet TO doesn’t even know, he seems to just be blaming everyone he can.
by foyesboys on May 28, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
one of the worst things I’ve seen you write. FAIL.
by DoomsdayD75 on May 28, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Romo didn't say She or Her right?
Ed Werder would have had an orgasm if he did!
by Luke. on May 28, 2009 7:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hilarious!
Romo should have said "Look, when TO was here, I was basically his little bytch! "
(Werder drops the microphone)
Then Romo adds: “I’m really upset because Terrell refuses to return my phone calls…”
just deadpan it
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
And he should say “like”, like in every other word.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
petition to change the blogs name in the offseason to.....
The Young and the Restless. Also, can we all get corny soap opera names? We’ve already got the roles perfected and I think we’re primed for our first shoot.
Stay tuned for the first episode where Carl Shelton turns his back on the over rated Antonio Ramiro Romo, prompting his campaign to remove him from power and seeks to replace him with a rookie. Stay tuned.
by sublimezg on May 28, 2009 7:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hear, hear!! I second that motion!
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is the real GD's?
I think you are an imposter sir. Your post was not thought out or backed up by anything other than opinion. That is not what we have come to expect and admire from you. I for one want the REAL GD to return and give us his insight and well thought out commentary. The comments before were beneath you sir.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on May 28, 2009 7:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
Good piece, GD. Telling it like it is, as usual.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where you at GD???
You really stirred up the hornets nest with you comments. Are you going to jump back in the threads???
by Boundforbeach on May 28, 2009 8:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
entertaining, to say the least!
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
T.O. is a genius
he knows how to use the media to turn Cowboys fans against Romo. he and Brett Favre would be so perfect together.
by DoomsdayD75 on May 28, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
53 roster prediction
It’s funny, but I actually did a 53 player roster prediction the other day and had the exact same 53 players as Timmy Mac, although I was really contemplating having Manual Johnson make it over Pat McQuistan, I guess that will play out in camp, should be interesting.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 8:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can you imagine if 10+ rookies make it to the final 53 of the Dallas Cowboys?
That’s gotta be some sort of record or something.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually 12 rookies made the team in 1975
the were coined, the “Dirty Dozen” and helped the Boys reach the SB that year.
Some of the rookies that year turned out to be among the greatest to ever wear the star and included, Randy White, Hollywood Henderson, Burton Lawless, Bob Breunig, Pat Donovan, Randy Hughes, Herb Scott, Scoot Laidlaw and Mike Hegman.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see it in my lifetime.
Was only -1 when the Dirty Dozen were drafted.
Did you have Alan Ball making your 53? I figured there would be a toss up with him and Courtney Brown because Brown can play both positions. Maybe his being moved back to CB is not a good sign, tho.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It;'s not a good sign
when he was moved to Safety they said he moved more like a safety… they’re giving him a chance at a different spot but it’s not looking good
by AustonianAggie on May 28, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scoot?
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, typo, it's obviously Scott
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking Manuel Johnson, 6 WRs if Stanback is healthy, makes it
and one of McQuinstan, Free or Proctor don’t make it
by AustonianAggie on May 28, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think Free has to make it unless they sign another tackle off waivers.
Guess Brewster or McQ can move over there if need be.
Knowing our WRs, we should have at least 7 ready and waiting around somewhere cuz it’s doubtful all will get thru camp—as 2 have already missed OTA time.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez
I’m not going to refer to the poster by name who stated that Romo appears slimier every day, but HE has a right to HIS opinion. HE has good insights into football and HE should be entitled to HIS opinion. Just like I should be entitled to use pronouns if I want.
Guys, you have to understand how the press works. They need a story and they will explore every word or phrase and dissect it, hoping to find a story…even if there isn’t one there. When a real story comes up, they’ll drop this like a rock.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on May 28, 2009 8:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's "stories" like these that I wish would stay the F out of BTB
If I want ridiculous, overblown, meaningless drama I’ll go to the DMN. Keep it where it belongs. BTB is starting to veer and I’m not sure I want to follow if this is where it’s going.
by sublimezg on May 28, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The door is as close as your mouse
Just click it and you can be taken away from BTB and go to wherever you want to go. Feel free not to follow BTB.
by Dave Halprin on May 28, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who
in their right mind would wanna do that?!?!? This site is great.
Booyah!
by what_the_crap on May 28, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, the story is everywhere.
I opened my MSN Today page and it was even there as an MSN Highlight. I had to at least mention it, and felt enough to do so in a WTF sort of way.
Trust me, I was much more excited to post who’s backing up Spencer and Ware than I was to post anything that has to do with TO. I grew up in N.Cali; therefore, I’ve been sick of him since he got all cross-eyed at Garcia and Trestman.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Big didn't post it via VRR, one of us would've made it a FanPost.
For the record, I refer to BTB over bspn for all my Cowboys news.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on May 28, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing
wrong with venting about a player. If GD is like me, it wasn’t so much the latest non-story from the media as Romo’s attitude at crunch time.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"HE" ???
So you won’t refer to him by his real name? Here we go again :)
by Boundforbeach on May 28, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny thing
Demarcus Ware was asked about Greg Ellis’s looming departure, and repeatidly used the term “he” instead of Greg, or G.E., what disprespect! can we get a story on that?
by stephen1 on May 28, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummmm am I the only person who just doesn't care?
I mean, a reference to someone by “he” is bad?
….really?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree, simply assinine IMO
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why can't Romo
simply stop answering TO questions? Just move on.
’Y’know, I’ve already answered all these questions, and I have nothing more to add to what I have already said. Nothing more to say. Next question."
Now that would be leadership.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something would be made outta that too.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh please...
So answering a question and using a pronoun shows signs of leadership or no leadership?
Look I get that you don’t like his decision making on the field and some of his stuff off the field.
But for weeks now he hasn’t said anything and he just gives a half hearted response, trying to avoid the subject and THATS not good enough for you?
I don’t really mind scrutinization at all, but it feels like you want to dislike the dude.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think thats obvious
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all
I am just saying he has plenty to do to get his game to the next level. The mature thing to do is to just put an end to the TO questions.
Wade should do the same thing. Just say, “I am done talking about that.” Move on.
Get off this nonsense of labeling anyone who criticizes a player as a “hater.” We usually get that from the school girl with the mad crush, whose credibility on the subject of Tony Romo is absolute ZERO.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
explain to me the difference
between calling somebody a hater and a school girl with a mad crush?? If one has zero credibility, so does the other one.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who said hater?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hater
was the term used by the aforementioned school-girl-with-crush. Your term was “dislike.” Duly noted.
Actually, I do not dislike Romo. I just have concerns that he will not be the QB to take the Cowboys to another SB. Hope I am wrong.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And on that note...
Please don’t try to group me with the everyone else.
I’m the same way with Terry and his googly eyes to everything Romo.
I think that everyone on this board would say I’m pretty damn objective and I hold everyone accountable.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I apologize
for the unfair association, AirforceBat. Just a little tetchy on the subject of Romo, as are several of us these days.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Accepted
I think there are alot of criticisms of him that are very warranted.
But on his response, you make it seem simple, but if he did that, SOMEONE would try and twist it.
I think that it’s a lose/lose situation.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that has nothing to do with leadership
but everything to do with being a jerk to the media.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, so lame.
He could’ve said “It” like in those old “It’s Pat” SNL skits.
I guess we have to realize that a new T.O. media market won’t be as up-to-date on what questions to ask him at press conferences. He even acted like it was stupid to bring Romo’s comments from laaast week up. They weren’t even comments, btw.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and BTW...
My comment wasn’t towards you posting it.
More as to how could anyone make that big a deal over it? It’s just digging.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
There also different levels of digging. For example, anybody know which position Coach Avezzano played?
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care but this is the slowest part of the year
I know its coming, it happens every year
by AustonianAggie on May 28, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you're not
since this has become an informal debate on the subject, I put in my two cents to leave
the guy out of it. Yeah, it generates hits and posts, but the guy plays for the Buffalo BIlls
now. And to quote Nate Newton, he doesn’t wear the shirt anymore. He’s dead to me.
Look, T.O. is one of the most media saavy guys around. He’s also an insatiable attention
whore. He knew what he was doing with the Twitter statement. The NFL Network used that
clip for THREE DAYS.
I agree with some people that Romo will have to stop answering the questions. But I also
know that T.O. isn’t going to stop stirring the pot. If we’re in week three and Dallas is 1-1 and
Buffalo is 2-0, I’ll bet you money there will be some statement from Buffalo comparing his
new team to his old team. It’s going to go on all year long from the Buffalo side and therefore
surely from the Metroplex press, who still can’t get that guy out of their minds. Are we gonna
track this thing into 2010? That’s a serious question.
T.O. is like the guy or girl who can’t stop talking about his last relationship. Eventually, it
grates on the old partner and the new one. I try to stay as far away from people like that as
I can, and I’d rather not see T.O. ever again on this site. Unless he and Tony meet and
duke it out in some hotel lobby, it’s all WWE stuff. I want the NFL, thank you.
by Rafael Vela on May 28, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TO continued to trash Garcia well after leaving SF... and spent an entire season undermining McNabb
Romo somehow stayed on his good side for as long as possible, but you had to expect SOMETHING from TO.
Hopefully this will only serve to motivate the guys still wearing the star.
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on May 28, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So long, Greg
I have been, and will remain, a Greg Ellis fan. But, as Stephen Jones said, it is time for Greg to move on. His diminishing skills and his incessant whining, coupled with some promising youngsters who need reps, have sealed his fate as a Cowboy.
I hope he signs with another team and has a good year or two before he retires.
If Spencer can stay off the police blotter and stay in the QB’s face, we’ll do great.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on May 28, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Am I missing something?
What video about Romo are ya’ll talkin’ ‘bout? Can’t seem to find it..
Hooah.
by .FRoST.USAF on May 28, 2009 11:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here you go, via DallasCowboys.com
Defending Big D: A Dallas Stars blog on SBN: easy to use, free to join.
by Brandon Worley on May 28, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the link...
..I swear I watched that the other day when it came out, and didn’t think anything of it. Just another interview for the media to dissect, hack to pieces, and make stories of. For a good 2 or so minutes before he made that comment, Owens was all they were talking about. Of course he said ‘he’. I know I would have…
Hooah.
by .FRoST.USAF on May 28, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This whole argument about "he" doesn't even make sense.
Do most of you continually repeat someone’s name when talking about them? Like, if I said, hey have you talked to Fred lately, is it bizarre to answer “He and I haven’t talked.” etc.?
Or would you say, “I haven’t talked to Fred. I hope Fred is doing okay. Fred is missed around here, but we have to move on without Fred.” Who talks like that? He was asked about Owens by name, so everyone knew who he was talking about. It’s not like when Parcells was calling him “the player” or whatever stupidity Parcells was using.
by Baked Potato Soup on May 28, 2009 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bingo
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is an article from Calvin Watkins talking about the recent interviews that TO and
Romo have conducted.
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/05/27/owens-trying-to-move-on-grudgingly/
I agree with Watkins, Romo has moved on, TO has not.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on May 28, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
T.O. for all intents and purposes is a child living in a grown man’s body, pure and simple. For whatever reason, he’s as immature as any 14 or 15 year kid and his response to his release and resentment to the Cowboyss organization is no surprise.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's because TO got screwed.
And Romo had a hand in the screwing. Of course he has more hard feelings about it than Romo.
by Baked Potato Soup on May 28, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
T.O. didn't get screwed
He made his bed and now he has to sleep in it. If he would have just shut his big fat mouth last season, he’s still be a Cowboy, he only has himself to blame, but obviously he’s incapable of doing that.
Romo had absolutely nothing to do with that.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's your opinion.
But I doubt that’s his. The guy got screwed. He was a thousand yard, 10 TD receiver last year, and the Cowboys ate 9 million dollars in cap space to get rid of him, which essentially pointed all fingers at him as the cause of them falling apart.
If Romo wanted him here, he would be here, but now he’s not, so I can’t agree that Romo had nothing to do with it.
by Baked Potato Soup on May 28, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why would Romo want him here??
That doesn’t make sense, all the jerk does is whine all game about getting the ball when over half the balls are thrown to him .
When I said Romo had nothing to do with it, I mean he didn’t initiate a coversation with Jones and say, “I want T.O. gone”. I’m sure Jones got Romo’s opinion, but I guarantee Jones decision to release T.O. had more to do with Stephen and Garrett not wanting him here than Romo’s.
T.O. is overrated at this point in career and not nearly the elite receiver he used to be and in the end Jerry realized that, he’s just not worth the headaches anymore.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree.
If Romo had wanted him to stay and Garrett and Jones wanted him gone, I think he would be here.
I’m not saying that Romo is wrong or that any of them are wrong. I’m saying that it’s easy to see how TO would feel he got screwed.
I disagree that TO is overrated. He’s still one of the top 10 receivers in the league and if he were still on the team would easily be our best receiver. It didn’t make sense to cut him, especially when it was the last year of his contract anyway, and I can understand why he would be bitter about it.
by Baked Potato Soup on May 28, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you imagine another year of that again?
Instead of just one sit-down interview with Deion, T.O. would probably be doing the same this plus referencing the crap from last year.
Somebody said it in an earlier post, but the Cowboys are restructuring the team right under our noses. Surely, no football team is as wholesome as a glass of milk, but they are at least trying to keep the tasks (preparing for the season) at hand instead of trying to take the we-can-revive-this-guy’s career approach.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*"season" should go between "this" and "plus"
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It did make sense to cut him
and thats why Jerry make that decision. So what if the overall talent of the team decreased, so long as the team will get better as a team, not as a collection of individual talent.
The Giants and Steelers certainly weren’t extremely talented the last few years, but they were really good teams. Its not always about talent.
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on whether Romo’s opinion of T.O. was the main reason T.O. was let go. Unless Jerry comes out and says otherwise, I’ll believe it was Stephen and Garrett who influenced Jerry the most.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on May 28, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it wasn't the last year in his contract
They had just extended him.
I can see how he feels that way. (OMG I just said he!), but IMO his act probably gets really old.
He was a top 10 receiver last year, but his ability to seperate and get past the bump, for whatever reason.. just wasn’t what it used to be. I’m sorry, but Shawn Springs should not be able to keep Owens at bay. I respect Springs, but he just shouldn’t.
Age catches up with people, and unless Owens can develop to be a great route runner like Jerry Rice… I have to expect a decline. And that is with ANY receiver, certainly one who relies on his physical skills so much.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have been exstatic with Owen if,
he had JUST CAUGHT THE DAMN BALL!!!!! Of course, all this Romo crap would be a non issue if some others had JUST CAUGHT THE DAMN BALL too. Romo does some stupid stuff sometimes, and has times when he puts the ball on the ground, but very few times have I thought we were totally out of a game with him playing.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on May 28, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On that note
for all the people that are frustrated with Romo’s mistakes, WHO would you rather have that’s available in free agency or trade?………………… I thought so NO ONE. I have been frustrated like most of us at Romo for the mistakes he makes but looking back at years past trying to find a good QB since Aikman, I am definitely onboard with Romo, now if he falters again this year, sure go look for another QB or start thinking about Stephen McGee in a couple of years, but as of right now “HE” is the best we’ve had in years.
by DCowboy on May 28, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the...
it’s not always greener on the other side approach.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
before we all post about how TO got screwed…lets see how he does in buffalo. He showed signs of decline with us – 2 of his 3 years, he was not a top 5-10 elite threat at wr, and the year he was, we happened to have an oline that kept romo standing longer than any qb outside of brady. i think his performance in buffalo will give a good indication as to how good of a decision we made in cutting him.
by foyesboys on May 28, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
I completely disagree…
It makes a lot of sense to me to cut a player who is taking up tons of cap room, bringing excessive baggage to a team that clearly couldn’t juggle it all at once, and at the same time under-performing. Sure, he had 1,000 yards, but over two hunderd of those were agains the 49ers. That means that in the 15 games other than that, he averaged less than 60 yards a game. Plus, it wasn’t like teams were tripling him. All they had to do was jam him with a little safety help and he was toast. When Green Bay holds you to two yards and you get rattled by Shawn Springs, you are no longer an elite reciever worth the baggage. In fact, if Miles Austin can meet his potential, this year’s recieving corps will be more balanced and potentially more explosive with a big possession guy (yes, I consider Roy Williams quite good considering the way he torched us a few years ago) and a speedy guy as the starters (assuming Austin is the #2) instead of a struggling Owens and an average Crayton.
by Cowboyfan729 on May 28, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I think a lot of people overrate TO’s impact. IF Roy WIlliams plays like we think he can, he will absolutely replace TO’s production in every aspect accept the elite deep threat that TO is. But frankly, if our offensive line is gonna block like last year, we need a RW, not a TO.
by foyesboys on May 28, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought of it that way.
I mean taking out the 49er game. I know it was against Nate Clements and all, but 60 yds/game is TE numbers.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
And what makes that analysis even more damning (I think I can say that) is the fact that the 49ers were one of the boneheaded teams to not jam T.O. Even after the game, Nate Clements complained that he wasn’t given the chance to shut him down. So really, even if T.O. was on our team, I don’t think he would be as effective as everyone implies considering he can simply be jammed and taken out of the game.
by Cowboyfan729 on May 28, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
never thought of it...?
Some of us have been posting facts like that since last year.
I’m so glad that loser is off our team.
by Realist Larry on May 30, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bading!
We have a winner!
+100
by Realist Larry on May 30, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PUH-LEASE
TO got paid three years worth of money and played one year for it. He got cut, but he didnt have to give a dime back, so there is no way he got screwed. In fact, he still has his dallas money PLUS what he gets from the bills this year.
How is that getting screwed?
If Romo was in fact asked for his opinion by JJ, good on him for saying what he thought, whether it was keep him or cut him. All you guys pining for Romo to be “a leader,” there you go. The guy gave the boss his honest opinion, and it sounds like it wasn’t what JJ wanted to hear. Guys who will tell the boss what they really think instead of what the boss wants to hear are like gold.
by THEjarhead on May 28, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm, this posting in the middle of the thread doesn't work for me.
The previous post was supposed to go behind the comment that TO got “screwed.”
by THEjarhead on May 28, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only one who screwed Owens is Owens. I don't believe Romo has
power to force anyone, certainly not his owner, to get rid of another player. In case you hadn’t noticed, no one makes Jerry do anything he doesn’t want to do.
by Fernie67 on May 29, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
They ranked Roy Williams as 20th best safety in the league.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
by Wmillion on May 28, 2009 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember this time last year?
There were tons of posts where people were saying that it wasn’t possible to name 10 strong safeties or maybe even 5 that were better than Roy.
by Baked Potato Soup on May 28, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Point.
I was one of the people didn’t think Roy was that bad, but not top 10. Definitely not top 20 anymore.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
by Wmillion on May 28, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd point out that 1) RW was still the root cause of big plays given up by our D
and 2) Most Strong Safeties aren’t stars… can you name 10 current starting centers?
by AustonianAggie on May 28, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was...
not one of those people.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 28, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't either.
But I don’t think I could do it.
by Baked Potato Soup on May 28, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heck, Brian Russell is still starting and he is even worse than RW.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on May 28, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and I'm surprised they had Sean Jones (14) ranked higher than Landry (16).
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angry ManU fan drives his bus into Barcelona crowd
Way, way off topic, but check out this link. It’s just plain nuts. A Manchester United fan purposely drove his car into a crowd of Barcelona fans, killing 4 of them. Crazy. Makes the occasional fistfight in the nosebleed sections of NFL stadiums seem downright civilized.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SPORT/05/28/nigeria.death.united.barcelona/index.html
by Boundforbeach on May 28, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dang, soccer's just way too violent of a sport for me anymore.
Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?
by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys
are arguing about Romo vs. TO, complaining about the media bringing it up,
but you know what?
There are about 170 posts here, almost exclusively about that issue!
Really, don’t blame ESPN when y’all are doin’ the same thing. “He” obviously generates strong feelings and interest from a lot of people.
As Raf said, he’s gone, who cares?
by Realist Larry on May 28, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't care. I have a problem with Romo being called names for doing nothing, and I mean
NOTHING wrong in that interview. But you’re right, we should have ignored the whole thing, including what was said here.
by Fernie67 on May 28, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
by kameleon_o on May 29, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is stupid, I agree with you. He said nothing wrong (from what I can tell here, I haven't watched it)
But by getting upset you are falling into the media’s trap.
Why do you care what some dumb reporter says?
And they say it exactly to get that response, so you’ll talk about it, and people will watch it more, and they’ll say more risible things, and on and on…..
When this blog of Cowboys fans has hundreds of posts about what they said, you let them control you and they win
by Realist Larry on May 29, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then I would argue that the whole thing shouldn't have been posted on this
blog; then the hornet’s nest wouldn’t have been stirred up, and the original blogger wouldn’t have called Romo slimy. He was reacting to that interview and sharing it with us. I was reacting to what HE said here; I wouldn’t even have known about the interview or the media reaction to it, if I hadn’t read it here.. I would be happy if BTB never posted another thing about TO, but if they’re going to, it’s going to get a reaction.
by Fernie67 on May 30, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with your point there.
Carl has some interesting opinions.
He’s alwasy been a TO defender.
by Realist Larry on May 31, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
Most of the people on here aren’t actually adressing that issue. They are referring to someone elses post.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by AirforceBat on May 29, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish
Romo would come out and say, “you know what, Terrell Owens was a jerk. This is a team and a family and Owens was a me first player. He thought he was above the team and became a huge distraction. I tried to make him happy and nothing was ever good enough for him. I’m glad he’s gone.”
That’s what I would say.
by DoomsdayD75 on May 28, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well said DD.
After everything Troll Owens has said and done, it’s like everyone is scared to just say what they really think. Troll is a loud-mouthed, selfish jerk.
Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein.
Joe ThEEsman
by SB Six on May 28, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't
First, we don’t know Romo actually thinks that. This very well could’ve been a garret vs TO kinda deal. i think romo is handling it the way he should. Obviously quite a few players like TO and it would be a mistake to go out there and call him selfish.
by foyesboys on May 28, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Un-freaking-believable. Romo does an eight minute interview, talks about
a wide variety of things, sings the praises of an injured coach, sings the praises of TO in response to repeated questions obviously looking for dirt (and at this point, I wouldn’t mind if he just outright said TO is a nasty, whiny destroyer of teams, because that’s the truth), and because he uses “he” in response to questioners who had already said “TO,” he’s a slime? He needs to be picked apart for yet more BS because it’s a slow news day? If someone asks me a question about another person and names that person, I don’t feel the need to repeat that person’s name just in case I somehow missed the point. I use “he,” “she,” “it,” whatever. Jeebus H. You-Know-Who. That guy was nothing but gracious and calm during that interview, and he’s at fault. I may need a break from this ridiculous off-season garbage. Yeah, we’re all entitled to our opinions, and that’s mine.
by Fernie67 on May 28, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great post.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
by kameleon_o on May 29, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typical media overblown hype
Pardon me while I rant!
I can’t even watch NFL Network anymore when they talk about the Cowboys (always adding TO into the conversation), it is even worse than espn or local media. With Deon (TO butt-lick) Sanders and Warren (smoke another one)Sapp, they just make me sick.
Michael Irvin is also the same way on the radio. I am a HUGE fan by the way…
They are such TO defenders it is pathetic. I have yet to hear ANY of them admit that TO has EVER done anything wrong. i.e. That he couldn’t get off the line, dropped passes if they weren’t right in his hands, ran poor routes, complained if he didn’t get the ball even if they won, etc. etc. etc. Oh No! He is such a great WR, why would Cowboys get rid of him for some crummy WR? Who is going to take his place?
WHO CARES? He is not worth the trouble anymore.
Maybe RW is not that good, maybe the Cowboys are not as good without TO. NOBODY knows anything yet, the season hasn’t even started. But he is GONE! Everyone needs to move on! Including Deon, Sapp, and Irvin.
I hope Romo, Garrett, & Roy Williams make them ALL eat their words by the end of the season. I bet they would sing another tune then. You know the media has a way of doing that….
by Boyz4Life on May 29, 2009 12:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
aman to your rant, I like TO and now he is gone, but in the big picture I couldn't have said it better, we need to move on
hope Romo, Garrett, & Roy Williams make them ALL eat their words by the end of the season. I bet they would sing another tune then. You know the media has a way of doing that….
by dcfanz on May 29, 2009 2:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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