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Vegas Says 9.5 Wins For Cowboys

The Venetian has released it's annual NFL win total over/unders for 2009. I am not a fan of gambling, and that is not the purpose of this post. Whether you gamble or not, you have to respect Las Vegas' reputation for being near the mark on sports predictions. In the past, Las Vegas odds have been a pretty accurate barometer for NFL win totals.

This year, the Venetian views the 2009 NFC East like this:

  • New York Giants - 10.5 wins
  • Dallas Cowboys - 9.5 wins
  • Philadelphia Eagles - 9 wins
  • Washington Redskins - 8 wins
  • Complete list here

In my opinion, the oddsmakers hit the Cowboys' win total dead on the head. The schedule is tough, but December will be a bit less difficult than it was last season. The Cowboys lose Terrell Owens, but should get enough production from guys like Martellus Bennett, Felix Jones, and Miles Austin to offset Owens' loss. With Wade Phillips in full control of the defense right out of the gate, the Cowboys should be a bit more steady on that side of the ball.

A lot of the analysts are saying that Dallas may have a better team in 2009, but not necessarily a better record. What do you think of the oddsmakers' prediction for the 2009 Cowboys?

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Las Vegas set the over/under from 2009 Cowboy wins at 9.5.
I'm taking the over
944 votes
I'm taking the under
211 votes
Vegas is dead on
212 votes

1367 votes | Poll has closed

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First!

Okay I’ve never been first before in three years, so I had to do it…

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on May 6, 2009 1:38 PM CDT reply actions  

oh yeah...

I think 9-7, 10-6, and 11-5 are all real possibilities, so i took the median score, which is the over.

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on May 6, 2009 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

did that really require two posts?

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on May 6, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah thanks for the awesome commentary

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on May 6, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was for ivysafety

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on May 6, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

blah blah blah

Defender of stupidity

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on May 6, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are things said(written) on here way dumber than 1st.

The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on May 6, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

over, but barely

10-6 is my guess for this season

by scottmaui on May 6, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

my exact thoughts.

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z

by Wmillion on May 6, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

i voted dead on.

but thanks for the awesome commentary. though, technically, a tie could be half a win, ask the eagles. so. well. nice effort.

i think this team is somewhere between 9-10 wins. but i’d lean more towards the under. the other teams in the East have gotten better, the boys are just trying to stay healthy, get more useful depth, and get better on special teams.

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on May 6, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm below that...

I’d like to be more optimistic about the Cowboys. But I think the odds of the Cowboys slipping is greater than the Cowboys becoming a dominant team. I’d say 7-9 and 6-10 are more likely than 12-4 or 13-3. With that, I think we’re a 50% team. 8-8 is my target. I think that’s our overall talent level — including our coaching talent.

by Eagles suck on May 6, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew I couldn't be the only sane one here

Being a blog of Cowboys fans, I guess it’s expected that a lot of people would be optimistic, but three-fourths of us picked the over? I don’t know about all that. Our division is just way too nasty. After what happened to my Spurs and my Cowboys this past year, I’m taking the under. We’ll get 8 or 9.

by Cavazos on May 6, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm Going with the Under

I think we’ll win eight games. Too many questions on offense, a defense that has talent but has never been a consistent shut down unit. Special teams should be better, though. I’m sticking with 8-8, with the Giants winning the division.

by kindablue on May 6, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think 10 wins is just ridiculously optimistic.

Dallas has won at least 9 games since 2005.

Last year they won 9 with a huge series of injuries including the QB.

I don’t think that it’s just a huge stretch to think they’ll have 9 or 10 wins.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by AirforceBat on May 6, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I don't think 10 wins is a huge stretch

Personally, I just don’t see us having a consistent enough offense to win more than 8. I just have this feeling that it’s going to be another up and down type of year where we win one and lose one all dang season.

You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith

by kameleon_o on May 10, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

if we sustain injuries again

thats very possible, but healthy, our offense should be one of the best in the NFL.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 11, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope so.

I mean I generally trust Romo to throw it to the open guy but I’m having a hard time trusting RW to get open. I know he was injured but I was pretty underwhelmed by him last year.

You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith

by kameleon_o on May 11, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

our offense will be more balanced this year

Our running attack will become a bigger factor and as a result our receivers should be able to get open.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 12, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

6-10?

How do you figure??? Were gonna be healthy and i think our schedual is just as hard as last year… i can see us doing worse than losing 7

by regaberto on May 6, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1....

Im going with 9-7, maybe 10-6 and painfully missing out of the playoffs again. I just don’t think we did enough in FA and the draft to overtake the Giants or Eagles this year.

by Boyzfan94 on May 7, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wrong!

This isn’t hockey.

Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.

by Reno Cowboy on May 7, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tie?

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on May 6, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually

9 wins, 5 losses, 1 tie …. tie = half a win …. 9.5!

This suit is NOT black!!

by Dub_TC on May 6, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously you haven't done a lot of gambling in Vegas

A tie will give you a half point in hockey, but not football.

Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.

by Reno Cowboy on May 7, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

9.5 seemed cheap to me

I mean does Vegas think we’ll win 9 games or 10. Seems to me like there covering their ass.

by jack dein on May 6, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

It's a betting line.

They are forcing gamblers to make that decision. Do you want to bet 9 or 10?

by Baked Potato Soup on May 6, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve never been big on sports betting. It’s not because I don’t gamble because I love poker but betting on sports just makes me more angry when they lose because then I’m losing money.

by jack dein on May 6, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vegas doesn't care

Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.

by Reno Cowboy on May 7, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

I think 9.5 is a pretty good line. I think Dallas is going to go 10-6, possibly 11-5.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by AirforceBat on May 6, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Vegas doesn’t actually set the lines based on the number of wins they think a team will have. They set the lines based on what number they think will generate equal action on each side. Vegas knows that fans will bet with their heart and often think their team is better than it really is.

Now, because there are so many Cowboys fans that jumped on the bandwagon when the Cowboys were good in the 90’s, the Cowboys probably have the most fans nationwide, and the line here reflects that. Truth is, Vegas doesn’t think very highly of the boys at all this year.

by JimmyK on May 6, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

can we get rid of these eagle fans...why all the trolling

do not be upset at us vegas hates the birds this year with only a 9 win over /under line jezzzzzzzz

by scandrick32 on May 6, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions  

based on recent comments

Based on the comments given by someone earlier that vegas actually thinks that the cowboys will win 8.5 games (not 9.5), that means they think that the eagles will win 8 (not 9) either way, the cowboys are rated over the eagles this year. Don’t know why all of the fuss on here about it. Stop worrying about it. Its all numbers. If any of you recall they said the Cowboys and Chargers would be in the super bowl at the beginning of the season and the Chargers almost missed the playoffs just as the cowboys narrowly did. You can’t believe anything right now. Just wait until the season starts, thats all you can do.

Tony Romo off in dat hole, Watch roll and watch him throw, Watch him lead dem cowboys to the super bowl, now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys!

by ProBowlFactory on May 6, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it is a compliment to this blog

that an eagles fan is on here posting valid comments related to the thread.

If Bye, Dawk was here just posting “Cowboys Suck!” then that would be another story. What’s wrong with well written opposite points of view? I actually learned something by reading his comments.

BTW have you donated to the camp fund yet Dawk? ;)

Game Recognize Game

by pretty ricky on May 7, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Cowboys suck!!! Haha, just kidding (well, not really). And you know what, I enjoy coming on here when there’s nothing new over at BGN (there’s NEVER anything new on the Giants site, and I just don’t care about the Redskins), so sure… Maybe I should contribute (once the next paycheck comes in).

by JimmyK on May 7, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh no… You’re a Mets fan, too? Ay Carumba… My 2 most hated teams.

by JimmyK on May 7, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith

by kameleon_o on May 10, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they set the line on what they think will happen. Cowboys have more fans than alot of teams but they have more enemies as well.

The line will also shift based on where the most bets fall. I think your projecting hope.

The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on May 6, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Only the REAL gamblers will look to bet the under where they think they’re getting good value. But the majority of the bets are people betting on their own team.

by JimmyK on May 6, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

just wondering

can you bet on the division as a whole? Cause theres no way this division only finishes 4 games above 500. The NFC south is really overrated and we have the west this year. Though I think the talent level in this division has dropped compared to the start of 2008, we still have 4 tough defenses and enough reliable offensive peices per team to win 8 games each.

If I was a betting man, I’d take the Giants under, Cowboys and Eagles over.

by foyesboys on May 6, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Good question...

If you look hard enough, you can pretty much bet anything.

by JimmyK on May 6, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

But NFC East teams

beat each other up week-in and week-out. That will make the win totals go down despite the fact that the worst NFC East team can probably treat the NFC-South winner like a JV team if everything were even.

by JimmyJohnson on May 6, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Off topic but I just saw a video of Robert Brewster on the DMN blog.

It must have been at one of the all-star games. He was playing tackle in practice and looked pretty agile there. However, he seemed to be pushed back into the coach (acting as QB) a few times. He seemed to have trouble with bull rushing. He needs to hit the weights, that’s fixable; he just needs to get stronger. If he adds strength to his athleticism, he could be a steal.

by beautifultyrant on May 6, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Good for him!

I was glad to see him go. But I hope he is able to revive his career there. He was a first-class guy. I hope he was right about being better suited to a 4-3.

by JimmyJohnson on May 6, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

right on

despite the disappointment I hope only the best for him

by scottmaui on May 6, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Wanted him to go, for the sake of your new D… but he brought a few years of quality entertainment w/ some of those hits… lol, I own a RW jersey… hope he does very well..

Hooah.

by .FRoST.USAF on May 6, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Folk Has Hip Surgery

Interesting developments about Nick Folk. A kicker with hip problems this early in his career doesn’t sound good. But, we can all hope for the best.

by Este on May 6, 2009 4:22 PM CDT reply actions  

i wonder if that factored into their drafting of Buehler at all

maybe not, there’s plenty of reasons to do so anyway, but they were obviously aware of Folks’ need for surgery at the time of the draft, and while he’s expected to recovery fully, it may have increased the importance of getting not just a kickoff specialist but insurance on FGs as well.

by scottmaui on May 6, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

10- 6

It’s a tough schedule. December especially. A solid December makes this 11 – 5 , but I like 10 – 6 better. Love to see a playoff game at home.

by oldboysfan on May 6, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

What's gonna happen more this year?

Number of times McNabb pukes, or number of big games Tony Romo win will.

So far, one of those 2 things has happened WAY more.

by JimmyK on May 6, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we'll nail it exactly

9 straight up wins, with a half win given for a moral victory in Week 15 or 16 as a tired Cowboys team almost mounts a late comeback against some division rival. 9.5 on the nose.

Training camp cannot get here soon enough.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 6, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Well if Vegas is right

9 wins doesnt get us in the playoffs guys……10 wins may not….

by Boyzfan94 on May 7, 2009 12:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Cant see us winnign less than 12

barring serious injury

Red and Black!! Red and Black!! Red and Black!! Congrats boys first time in team history over .500

by aussie_cowboy on May 7, 2009 2:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't think 10 wins is...

stretching it.

I’d say that there is a pretty good chance that Dallas would have won 10 if Romo hadn’t went down for 3 games last year.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by AirforceBat on May 11, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we remain healthy

there is no way we win less than 10 games.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 7, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

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