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Cowboys Offense: Breaking Down the Training Camp Battles

While training camp position battles will undoubtedly be intense on the defensive side of the ball, the fight for roster spots on offense should be a bit less interesting. There should be no competition at quarterback, as Tony Romo will obviously be the starter. The team drafted Stephen McGee in the 4th round when the team had bigger needs, so that ought to be an indication of how much the team likes the former Texas A&M signal caller. Jon Kitna was acquired via trade, and is the only experienced depth at the position. He will be safe for that reason. Rudy Carpenter is coming to camp to minimize arm fatigue, and maybe log enough preseason snaps to impress another team.

While their 2009 roles have yet to be defined, we do know that Marion Barber, Felix Jones, and Tashard Choice will occupy the team’s three running back roster spots. No disrespect to Ray Ray’s little brother (Keon Lattimore), but he will be at camp for the sole purpose of preserving the bodies of Bash, Dash, and Tash. The only way we will see any movement at running back is if Minnesota, in an attempt to clear cap space for Brett Favre, offers us Adrian Peterson for a bag of K-balls.

Most of the offense is locked up, but there are still a few spots up for grabs. Let’s look at this year’s offensive contestants for Survivor:Dallas.

Star-divide

Wide Receiver

Starters: Roy Williams, Patrick Crayton/Miles Austin

Survivor Contestants: Sam Hurd, Isaiah Stanback, Kevin Ogletree, Julian Hawkins, Manuel Johnson, Travis Wilson

Cowboys will likely keep: 5-6

Breakdown: Sam Hurd will probably make the squad again. He is a good special teams player, and of the group he has the body and skill set that most closely mirrors that of Roy Williams. Hurd would be the most natural fit to step in for Williams at the "X" in the event of an injury. Travis Wilson has nice measurables, but his mouth is bigger than his game. It is unlikely that his arrogance will fly in the recently cleansed Cowboy locker room. I think Manuel Johnson has a real shot. His play far outshines his measurables, and the team could possibly view him as an eventual heir to Patrick Crayton’s role.

I think the guy to watch here is Kevin Ogletree. Ogletree is an accomplished receiver with top notch NFL speed. Ogletree was widely ranked among the top 20 wide receiver prospects, but saw his stock drop due only to a 2007 ACL tear. Ogletree has to be viewed as the favorite if the team keeps six wideouts, and still a possibility is the team keeps only five. At the end of the day, I still think Isaiah Stanback makes the team. The team did little to bolster it’s kick return options behind Felix Jones in the off season, leaving Stanback as the best remaining alternative. Stanback would also be the best option if the ‘Boys want to tinker with some wildcat action, and most importantly, Jerry Jones likes him.

Tight End

Starters: Jason Witten, Martellus Bennett

Survivor Contestants: John Phillips, Rodney Hannah, Jamar Hunt

Cowboys will likely keep: 3

Breakdown: I know Martellus Bennett is not technically a starter, but he will be a key part of the offense, so he’s not going anywhere. I was a little surprised that the Cowboys drafted a tight end at all. As high as the club had appeared to be on Rodney Hannah, I figured he would get his chance to step in with the departure of Tony Curtis. Nonetheless, the University of Virginia has a history of producing well-rounded tight ends, and John Phillips is no different. This battle is really between Phillips and Hannah. Jamar Hunt’s best quality is his ability to serve as a long snapper. You don’t mess with a good thing, so unless the Cowboys are desperate for roster spots, I don’t see the team dumping L.P. Ladouceur.

Offensive Line

Starters: Flozell Adams, Kyle Kosier, Andre Gurode, Leonard Davis, Marc Colombo

Survivor Contestants: Doug Free, Pat McQuistan, Montrae Holland, Ryan Gibbons, Cory Procter, Matt Spanos, Robert Brewster, Travis Bright, Michael Turkovich, Greg Isdaner

Cowboys will likely keep: 8-10

Breakdown: It’s hard to divide this thing by position since there are so many tackle/guard and guard/center guys on the roster. Regardless of his camp performance, Robert Brewster’s draft position buys him a roster spot, so he’s in. The only true tackles in the group are Free and Turkovich, so if Free can hold off the undrafted Turkovich he’s in as well. Hopefully Montrae Holland mixed an occasional salad into the rotation this off season. If he’s in shape, he’s easily the best guard among the backups. Holland gets good push in the run game, and is by far the most experienced (35 career starts) of the group. I know no one wants to hear this, but Cory Procter will probably be back. Procter and Matt Spanos are the only players in the group with experience at center. If Procter outshines Spanos, he’s probably coming back. This may be a "put up or shut up" year for McQuistan as well, who has logged zero starts in three seasons with the team.

Fullback

Starter: Deon Anderson

Survivor Contestants: Asaph Schwapp, Julius Crosslin

Cowboys will likely keep: 1

Breakdown: Deon Anderson is not a Lorenzo Neal-type lead blocker, but he is a good all-around fullback who does most everything pretty well. I have not seen enough tape on Schwapp to make an educated evaluation, but I was not impressed by the few clips I did see. For a 257-pound guy, Schwapp doesn’t get a ton of push, and can be driven back into the hole rather easily. Again, maybe I just saw the worst handful of clips of his entire career. Crosslin played pretty well for the team last preseason, but it’s hard to envision Anderson being overtaken by any fullback currently on the roster.

 

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I seriously don't see 4 TE's making the team

If we had 4 amazing TE’s maybe, but we only have 2 really good ones and a couple serviceable ones. I think if Hannah could only improve his blocking game he would easily make the team above the other guys.

by sublimezg on May 7, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way I see it, we'll have at least

5 CBs
5 WR
2 kickers
4 safeties
3 TEs
1 Punter
9 lbs
3 RBs and 1 FB
1 long snapper
6 DL
9 OL
3 QBs

That is 52 players. So there is one wild card spot. Considering the fact that we play a lot of two TE sets I think it is likely we keep another TE, as long as he is a good player who will have trade value down the road.

by quincyyyyy on May 7, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think your close quincy......

I think the extra spot will goto another LB.

by Boyzfan94 on May 7, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

10 lbs are a lot

I don’t see that happening.

by quincyyyyy on May 7, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It will be reciever.

There are too many guys at that position who could develop. Ogletree, Hurd, and Stanback. Are my bets to make the team making the the count 6.

by cowboyfan on May 7, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is my thinking

if not receiver it will be another db

by sublimezg on May 7, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it will be another db

I see Brown and Watkins getting cut, so that would leave us with 4 safeties, and Ball and scandrick can play safety in a Pinch. 5 CB’s and 4 safeties sound about right.

by quincyyyyy on May 7, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't have too many in a 3-4

If not LB, that I’m thinking a safety. I don’t see 6 WR’s making the active roster. Stanback is on the bubble as the 5th WR. Ogletree, Hawkins, Johnson, Wilson have a good chance of beating him out.

The four locks are:

RW
Austin
Crayton
Hurd

by Boyzfan94 on May 7, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stanback is not on the bubble

when they drafted him they knew he would take some time to develop. Plus he is a good returner who can play in the wild cat formation.

I think Crayton in jeopardy of getting traded. Crayton is 30 years old and hasn’t shown anything more than being a good 3rd receiver. I could see us trading him to make room on the roster for a young receiver some of the younger receivers step it up in TC.

by quincyyyyy on May 7, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Package him and barbie lol

For something next year…..

by regaberto on May 7, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The last spot goes to whoever

we can’t lose, either a CB, WR, LB. I don’t think we keep 4 TEs because whoever doesn’t make the cut will make it to the practice squad, right now I would have to say it goes to WR w/ Ogletree joining RW, Austin, Crayton, Hurd, Stanback

"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards

by nicholas.rodriguez on May 7, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also think Stanback's spot is safe

if for no other reason than Jerry’s comments about how to use him next season, as well as his return skills. Like quincyyy mentioned, they drafted him knowing he was a project; so I don’t see them leaving him behind and giving up.

by Thehomerpimpson on May 7, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just thinking that Crayton might be the odd man out.

plus he talks too much. on the other hand he is the second most experienced WR after RW on the team, are we willing to thin on experience? and he doesn’t get injured as much. nevertheless, who can forget the dropped pass in the giants playoff game two years ago, not to mention that if he ran his rout without stopping on the next to las play we would of score a touchdown, hence win the game.

by dcfanz on May 7, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a very good slot receiver

Struggles when you put him at the #2 spot, but two seasons ago, when he was seeing more balls, he really excelled in the slot role for us. And he has excellent hands, despite a few high profile drops that we are all justifiably upset at him for. He’s staying.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 7, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Austin is pretty much pencilled in as the number 2

If Stanback or Hurd beats him out then he is gone

by quincyyyyy on May 7, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crayton's more shifty than some give him credit for

Guy’s not very fast at all, but he always seems to be wide open. That indicates to me that he’s got some moves. Plus he’s got a wealth of experience. He’s not going anywhere. I’m up and down on the guy, but unless they can get some great value out of him via a trade(not too many people in the market for a 30 year old 3rd receiver, either), Crayton’s staying put.

Plus, he had what is easily the most badass end zone celebrations ever, stopping in front of the goal line and calmly placing the ball in the endzone. Seriously, coolest celebration EVER.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on May 8, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you assumed

I have seen the giants game couple of times now. first that drop didn’t make or break the game. it just killed a drive. he would have caught the ball at about our 30…no way, with his speed he would have made a TD.

the break down wasn’t necessarily Crayton’s fault, but could be Romo’s as well and even if crayton ran the route, the DB was right with him

its just us making excuses, trying to find a convenience place to put the blame for losing to the giants. The whole team played bad. the defense gave up a TD with 2 minutes to go in the first half. the OL played horribly (but so did every other OL that faced the giants in the playoffs).

it wasn’t all crayton, although he didn’t have one of his best games.

by CowboysFanatic on May 8, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

again, all good points why Crayton might be on the 53 man roster, but

on the second to last play in the giants game, Crayton stopped at the goal line for a sec or two, if he would of not hesitated Romo threw the ball at the end of the end zone, he could of easily cought it for a TD. and the DB was right besides him exactly because of his hesitation at the goal line.
Anyway, you can pin one player or one play for a loss. Its the whole team.

by dcfanz on May 8, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree on Crayton

Beside Roy Williams who has proven himself in Detroit and not in dallas we don’t have any proven WRs. Crayton can give us about 50-60 catches for around 700-750 yards. AUstin is not proven. Hurd is not proven. so you can’t go into the season with only 3 WRs two which are unknown (less than 500 total yards) and 2-3young unproven WRs. You need better odds and you need to be 4 deep at WR. Crayton is here at least this year.

by CowboysFanatic on May 8, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

first off...Hurd is no lock...not at 1.6 million per/ If the rookies step up and fill in all the special teams positions...Hurd is expendable, and not worth the money.

and as usual I must reiterate that Isaiah Stanback is going nowhere (besides UP the depth chart) He’s the best return man not named Felix on the team, he’s the ideal “wildcat” QB….and none of the other free agent hopefuls have a chance of beating him out…

The WR’s that should be concerned are Hurd, and possibly even Crayton.

Dallas will keep 5 WR’s….

by My_2_Cents on May 7, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Special teams is the reason.

The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on May 7, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For another LB

The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on May 7, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Phillips has a good shot.

They seem to really want an inline blocker to replace Curtis, and that’s been Hannah’s biggest weakness.

by Mandmeisterx on May 7, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Phillips should have no problem beating out Hannah for the 3rd TE spot.

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on May 7, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Ogletree

will make the team. I think Greg Isdanerwas a good signing (not sure if he will make the team but he’s a hard worker). The player who I will keep an eye on is Doug Free. Can he play T?

by tyler2 on May 7, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Ogletree..

He can be a good number 3 in a few years…… or even higher. He has that deep threat ability we need.

by regaberto on May 7, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stanbeck be on the bubble

No way he is not. Barring injuries above him on the depth chart he is going to show up from day 1 and show alot during the pre-season to make the team.

by THEjarhead on May 7, 2009 1:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No doubt he has.....

And i wouldnt be shocked to see them run it on occassion.

I doubt it will be a staple of the offense however, nor should it, and i dont think a player will make the team simply b/c he may be able to do something in a WC formation.

by THEjarhead on May 7, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

the wild cat is here to stay

by quincyyyyy on May 7, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt it

and if Stanback walks into camp thinking his job is safe he is a fool who needs to be cut, or haven’t you been watching everything that has happened at the ranch this offseason?

by THEjarhead on May 7, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

The hope is that at this point, after cutting TO, Roy, etc., NO ONE thinks their job is safe, and everyone will play like they’re playing for their football life.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 7, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never seen

any indication that Stanback thinks his spot is safe. All I’ve seen and heard is an eager kid who wants to show what he can do. Coaches are pretty high on the guy. He was always a third-year project, so let’s see what he brings in his third year.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on May 7, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd really like it if Deon Anderson could stay healthy for a season

I think our run game and our offense overall are noticeably better when we have a decent FB in the line-up, and he’s been our best one in the past few years (with apologies to Oliver Hoyte, who could run block like hell but could not catch swine flu in a pigyard). Unfortunately Anderson hasn’t been able to stay on the field due to that troublesome shoulder and various other nicks. Maybe he’ll be able to put together a 16 game campaign this year.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 7, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

everyone is so sold on Olgletree…wasn’t our last 7th round pick on reciever Manuel Johnson? No one is talking about him…i think Olgletree is a long shot. If he is so good then why didn’t we use our 7th round pick on him instead of Manuel Johnson?

by VTcowboys16 on May 7, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed on Ogltree

he was injured in college, then he also came out early!! kind of strange for WR. he has speed, so because of that alone he will stick around, at least on PS. I am not sold on Ogltree

by CowboysFanatic on May 8, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

O-Line

I hope we keep Proctor. Otherwise there would be no one on the team to despise.

by eightball on May 7, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Your right, their is always a whipping boy.

The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on May 7, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barbie Carpenter?

I’m pretty damn sure he is the snitch

by quincyyyyy on May 7, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brad Johnson was the snitch

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 7, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never understood the personal dislike for players who aren't very good

There are plenty of knuckleheads and jerks with talent we can all dislike. Why do people make it personal when it’s a player who just isn’t very good. The guy probably works his butt off just to keep his spot on the roster. He has achieved a hell of a lot more than almost anyone who posts on here. He’s in the NFL and you’re not. Should he give up his livliehood because some slob on a couch who can’t carry his jock isn’t happy? Give the guy a break and be mad at the organization if they can’t find someone good enough to take his job.

by StillHateTheGiants on May 7, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would make an exception for Roy Williams

seemed like he phoned it in once he got paid.

by quincyyyyy on May 7, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you on this

Proctor is the 4th on the guard depth chart. so why all the hate? did we expect an all pro to step in? from the 4th on the depth chart!! he worked hard. did his best. was decent. not great run blocker but decent pass blocker. but they all have to pile it on.

by CowboysFanatic on May 8, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schwapp is no DJ

He seems high on POA in lead blocks and looks about as flexible as a piece of tupperware. Doesn’t look quick to me. Looks like another LB to FB convert.
Let’s see how much he picks up in camp and maybe he has a chance to make it. But with 1 spot to compete for…experience in the system will go a long way and he’s on the short end of that.

by rotovibe on May 7, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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