Cowboys at the Crossroads
Many of the Cowboys’ offseason maneuvers were made in order to allow the players and coaches to breathe a little easier. Tony Romo and Jason Garrett are supposed to be able to operate more freely now that Terrell Owens and his sometimes overbearing personality have left town. The Cowboys will no longer have to answer questions about Pacman Jones. As fans, we want to think that since the distractions are gone the Cowboys will play relaxed football and cruise right along. But, when you really take a step back and look at things, the pressure may not be so evident but the stakes are as high as they have ever been.
Let’s say the plan works. A more harmonious locker room and a cast of young, hungry players lead this team to some relative success; let’s say one playoff victory. All is well in Dallas. Wade Phillips is probably no longer on the hot seat. Questions about Jason Garrett, Tony Romo, and Roy Williams will likely evaporate. Jerry Jones will feel that his locker room cleansing efforts are paying off, and the team will continue to move in that direction. With a playoff win in their pockets, the team will return loose, yet hungry for bigger successes in 2010.
What if this doesn’t work? If the Cowboys are unable to finally nail down a postseason victory, we are probably looking at a team in transition. There will more than likely be a coaching change which is always a challenge. Some would be quick to say that a coaching change in Dallas would be a smoother transition since Jason Garrett is next in line. But what if Garrett’s offense struggles again? Do you think Jerry Jones will feel comfortable handing the keys over to Garrett is he does not first prove himself as a top-notch coordinator? If Jerry does give Garrett the job, would the players really be on board after watching him struggle two years in a row? If the Cowboys stumble again, and the quarterback has anything to do with it, the Tony Romo lynch mob will grow larger and louder than ever. If Romo falls apart down the stretch, the fans will be calling for Stephen McGee whether he is ready or not. With Romo staring down the barrel of age 30, you have to wonder if at that point the club will be in doubt as to whether or not he is the future. What if Roy Williams underperforms or gets hurt? What if Miles Austin doesn’t pan out? What if the depth along the offensive and defensive lines is exposed? What if the young corners don’t take a step forward as we all expect them to? If things go bad, how will the boss react? Jerry Jones does not sit on his hands. If this team fails after Jerry uncharacteristically chose chemistry over pure talent, he might just napalm that whole blueprint. Jerry Jones is not known for his patience, and may be inclined to start trying to buy success, especially with the prospect of an uncapped year on the horizon. Think about last season's failure and the changes it brought about. Some were long overdue, but do you think we would have seen the total makeover we saw had the Cowboys enjoyed some playoff success. Do you think T.O. would have been shown the door? I'm not saying that the Cowboys have made any bad moves this offseason, but I just don't think that a lot of them would have been made had the team been successful. A successful 2009 season, and the Dallas Cowboys are a young team heading in the right direction, with things looking up for 2010. Another disappointing season and the Cowboys are a team with a ton of questions, a quarterback with the weight of the world on his shoulders, and more than likely a new coach heading into the 2010 season. While the Super Bowl expectations are less this season, the pressure is very much alive in Big D. What transpires this season (postseason in particular) will impact the Cowboys future in a major way.
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I always enjoy your aticles on site. I think that many of us fans too quickly rush to a final and determining standard instead of looking at and enjoying the strengths presented. No matter how many final lines in the sand are drawn before the start of each every season, there invariable are strong teams that fail and weak teams that arise from ashes so to speak. A make or break point at this time, gives little more than a continual eyesore to relate back and give emotional contempt from, at each point in the process if not fully encompassing strength of play. That just isn’t the nature of this sporting beast. There are tremendous magnitude with team dynamics as well as possible directions. To rush to a veiw of total accomplishment in the Cowboy play for next season, would be to give up on the joy of this team’s play unfolding as the season, the league, and individual players adapt and change this upcoming season. I want to enjoy the failures as well, as that brings about character building as well as improved insights and skills. That is part of the game as well….
There is no right way to do the wrong thing. GO COWBOYS!!
I tend to agree with most of waht you've laid out
Successful teams tend to try to build on that success, less successful ones try to either get more out of what they have or get different from what they had. The Cowboys are trying to do both.
But I think their draft was telling – lower profile guys who the scouts felt were “football players” – hard-nosed, athletic, football smart, versatile. That is more a Landry draft approach than typical JJ one. My hope – and the words coming out of the team – is that this reflects a change in philosophy in tems of executon, attention to detail, and focus.
If they take this approach, scrap it out in every game, I can see them succeeding, but I’ll also be able to live with them falling short.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Good points, Dunk. In addition, I firmly believe...
… that Stephen Jones is playing a pivotal role in their move towards that direction (to draft/acquire those hard-nosed, athletic, football smart, versatile players that you correctly spoke of).
And it’s great to see that da King takes his son’ s recommendations seriously.
Stephen’s influence gives me hope for the Cowboys’ future — knock on wood, cross my fingas, throw salt over a shoulder…
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by silverblue5 on Jun 20, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
If they fail, I think you have to look at the reasons
For example, last season the Cowboys were clearly beset with a slew of injuries that really prevented them from playing their best football for a majority of the season. I strongly believe if guys like Romo, Jones, Kosier, Newman, and a few others aren’t hurt throughout the season, where they missed games, the Cowboys make the playoffs and we could have possibly come together like the Cardinals did.
Even battling injuries, the Cowboys still found a way to win 9 games and played the best teams in the league very tough down the stretch with the exception of the Eagles game which I believe was an aberration caused by the mental and physical exhaustion of the season finally catching up with them.
The bottom line is that Jerry’s plan will work this year if the injury bug can be kept at bay.
In Romo we Trust
with the exception of the Eagles game which I believe was an aberration caused by the mental and physical exhaustion of the season finally catching up with them.
If they win that game, they are in the playoffs. To completely crap the bed like they did is completely unacceptable for a group of guys paid to play football, and I don’t care how tired they were. That game worries me more than anything else about this team. They showed no pride, which makes me think a good number of players are showing up for the paycheck
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
AMEN....completely unacceptable for this team to mail it in like that....
and what is even more disturbing is the rationalization of the loss after the game by the likes of Romo (and others too)…oh well – its just a loss….
my belief is that a team that shows up to what amounts to a playoff game unprepared – well, that comes down to coaching and our GM Jerrah….back in the day, Jimmy Johnson would sh!tcan anyone who didn’t care (or didn’t appear to care…see Everson Walls) and he had the authority to do so….in the current situation we have a lame-duck, marshmallow coach who couldn’t scare a mouse because we have a GM/owner who makes all the calls…under normal circumstances – this may not be so bad except for the fact that our GM would have absolutely zero chance of being a GM on any other team in the NFL – unless, of course, he bought another team
my hope is that guys like Garret & Phillips can get a little tougher (as they have indicated) and we can start making players accountable
Eesh
I don’t think Romo was doing anythng more than trying to cope with the loss. And given that his dad is battling cancer, no, neither that game nor any other game will ever be the worst thing that ever happens to him. But people are reaching when they try to define him by one comment after a loss. If he really didn’t “want it” would he have finished the Giants’ game in sever pain? It’s a media ploy to get fans talking and man did it work. Yeah, he should have phrased it better and he needs to learn from it, but damn, he gets paid to throw the football not back-up Matt Lauer.
I agree that the whole team looked unprepared – mentally, physically, schematically. And like you, it concerns me a lot going into next season. The only thing that brought a smile to my face was watching Flo let Eli get blasted a couple of times in the Pro Bowl. A little Schadenfreude, I know.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I also think that
“mental and physical exhaustion of the season finally catching up with them” is a silly excuse. How about Philli, weren’t they mentally and physically exhausted from the season as well? We played good teams tough down the stretch, so was Philladelphia, New York and Washington. We don’t hold our players to a different standard in terms of fatigue and tiredness. When it mattered the most (trough our own fault) we laid an egg. No matter what anyone says I blame coaching for this and as long we have JG and WP trying to undermine each other it is not going to work.
agreed......
and this is a MENTALLY WEAK team that has taken on the personality of its coach….dont get me wrong – i really like this team and the mental state of this team has been weak long before WP ever got here (all thru the Parcells and Campo years)……so to blame it all on WP would be wrong…to blame it all on Tony Romo would be wrong too…and we all know JJ is not going anywhere
i hate to sound like Tex but part of me thinks that Garrett could be the right guy to lead this team if given enough leeway to put the fear of god into players….and you would think that a former NFL QB from Princeton would be able to guide Romo to the promised land
I think that,
in all fairness, a few facts need to be admitted to by the fans of the Cowboys about that Philly game. I mean people are talking here like we played the Lions or something in that game. We beat Philly 41-37 on September 15 and that game was played in Dallas and the injuriies had not occured yet! But now we were unprepared, had mental and physical exhaustion etc. Since when did going to Phily at anytime for any game mean Dallas “was supposed to win?” I mean let’s get real here. Secondly, just think how fired up Philly was when they heard Oakland had beaten Tampa? Come on now, how many people were betting on that outcome? Be honest now? Let’s not even mention the Philly faithful having just won the World Series. Those fans were pumped and they are maniacs to begin with. So what do we have? The uninjured Cowboys win at home by four on September 15, Tampa loses to Oakland, Philly is a division rival who we usually hope to split with, and Philly fans being entirely wired for this game against the hated Cowboys. Should the Cowboys have played better? Sure. But please let the mental toughness, being tired, unprepared excuses go. The deck was stacked pretty heavily against us before the first kickoff.
As heavily as the deck may have been stacked, the Cowboys just rolled over and quit, which was embarassing
and the World Series was two months before that game. It was not a factor.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
I really don't agree with that
Everyone was still trying to make a play, noone had quit, the problem is one misscommunication from romo-roy+couple bad plays defensivly+pacman fumble+romo fumble and barber fumble around the philly red zone returned for touchdowns = 24 points, and we were down by freakin 30some after that. I frankly could’ve cared less if they fought in the fourth quarter and scored a couple touchdowns.
It was utterly embarassing, but this crap that we rolled over is a big overexaggeration. We panicked when we got down 14 and forced some things that we shouldn’t have, for sure. Keep in mind that was really the first time in his career romo and te offense faced a 14 point deficit….not usual territory.
excuses, excuses, excuses
injuries!
the fans ?!
the World Series!!??
exhaustion!
they were ‘fired up’ ! (Why weren’t the Cowboys?)
Hey, I wasn’t betting on the Cowboys, bu there is no other word for 44-7 than “choke”
except maybe “quit”
by Realist Larry on Jun 19, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cowboys quit in the Ravens game.......
end of season right there. If you can’t get “fired up” for a play or go home game then something’s wrong. They just didn’t show up for that game. Philly did.
meant to say if you can't "get fired up" in a crucial continue play or go home
game then something’s wrong. Face it, they just laid down and quit and that’s what was so disappointing about that game/team was they didn’t even fight in that game. They just laid down and quit.
I partially agree with you, however...
… a lot of that can be thrown at the Head Coach.
WTF kinda D were they runnin’ that day?!?!
Barely any pass pressure on McNabb. And I hope that either Troy Aikman or Joe Buck (I forget who said it) was wrong when saying that Wade Phillips didn’t wanna attack McNabb because of #5’s running ability.
Stalwart defenses who constantly get in opponents’ backfields usually designate an athletic LB to spy a mobile quarterback throughout the game so as not alter the pressure-filled scheme that helps them win games defensively.
Why the f__k did Phillips all of a sudden go soft on the D side of the football in a game that had playoff implications on the line?!?!
That right there should’ve got him the freakin’ axe.
Sorry fellas, but I’m still seething from that bitter loss — as I’m sure many of you are. We could’ve went into Minnesota and won a playoff game if our Boyz would’ve taken care of biznoche in Philly in Week 17.
I know, I know — woulda, coulda, shoulda. Sour grapes. Blah-Blah-Blah.
Damn.
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by silverblue5 on Jun 20, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
sometimes you gotta give the players credit
i watched ware get stonewalled, often in 1 on 1 situations all day. ANytime that happens, we’re gonna struggle to get pressure.
You can never buy success
I cannot buy into the fact that just putting a bunch of high profile players together automatically guarantees success. As in any team sport, football requires team chemistry. The question to be asked is what quantifies as a successful season in 2010? Is it making the playoffs? Is it winning the division? I think this team has way too much vested in young talent that it will be futile to just blow it up.
True statement
but within reason. The Giants had better chemistry without Plax, but it cost them on the field just as surely.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
How do you know that? They looked lost without him.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
I guess I don't "know" that
I just assumed they cut him for a reason other than on the field performance, as in maintaining team cohesion, discipline, etc. Seems logical to me.
The looking lost part is my point – they missed his talent on the field but cut him for team reasons. Philly missed TO’s performance, but not the locker room drama. What am I missing here?
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I was just wondering about the chemistry part
because I never heard that Plaxico was a locker room problem (other than his propensity for not practicing).
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Well he was the worst players when it came to team fines
it was not publisized much until last year. Plax had a two year period of showing up late to meetings and practices.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Interpersonally I think you are correct
He was likeable. But they wrote into his new contract things like “Plax must come to meetings on time. Plax must not miss the team bus.” And well before he put a hole in himself they were having problems with accountability again (hence the fines). So I think it was Coughlin needing to demonstrate that no one was above the team, regardless of talent.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Apparently Plax was a nightmare
Tim Hasselbeck recently spoke up and said he was the worst teammate he ever played with. Said he showed up late to practice and meetings. Said he never tried hard in practice. Said he took plays off, etc.
They wanted to redo his contract and not pay a roster bonus due because he didnt play and didnt/doesnt
look like he will play soon. He refused and I believe sued for the bonus. The Giants were mad because they stuck by him but wanted some money back because of no play. He wasnt interested in the least of renegotiating. Thats was the big reason.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
I totally agree
The Cowboys are a young team and are set for the immediate future no matter what happens in 2009. The worst that could happen is a coaching change.
In Romo we Trust
They're not so young...
…on the offensive line; which is where I have my greatest concerns.
Demarcus Ware: The Beast of the East.
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I agree they are not young on the OL
however, I don’t think they are old either. It seems that other than Flo, the other 4 are all in the prime of their careers. Like QBs, OLmen can play at a high level well into their 30s.
In Romo we Trust
"aside from flo"
this is an issue with the way we’ve failed to develop lineman. A bad LT means romo is constantly fearing for his blind side, and successful qbs don’t have to deal with that.
Long-term this is not a bigg problem
Every year, we have/can sign premier free agents to fill holes. Is this the ideal way? Of course not. It’s too darn expensive and will cost you a premier player or two at the skill positions (see WR, CB).
Let’s face it, t.o. and Ellis are gone as much because we have a hugely expensive OL as for their diminishing performances, chemistry, and ages. Add Thong and Henry (who could have been great backups, but not at $5 mil a piece).
We have two aging lineman. That’s not really that bad…most teams are in the same boat or worse.
G – We have competition for one spot, the one that killed us last year. Holland is young and proven and his hitting his prime. He’s also very big and strong. Kosier is still way above average and will be a serviceable player for another 3 or 4 years and a great short-term backup for another few years after that. Davis, of course, is a young stud hitting his All-Pro stride.
T – Colombo, as stated, has now proven to be a real steal. The former 1st Rounder is becoming a Jon Runyan clone. Tough, mean, and nasty. He’ll finally be the Erik Williams answer we looked for since the DUI/wreck. Flo? It’s no secret that his prime is past. But he’s still better than most, is at near elite play when healthy, and should be solid at worst this year. Behind them? Uh, eh, hmmm, yeah…okay…still thinking.
At least we drafted one with our 2nd pick in the draft. 3rd rounders are premier picks, especially this year. But like everyone should know, it will take a year or 3 for him to become a starter, if he ever does. Free? I’m hopeful. His pre/post-draft scouting report was as a “freak” athletically, but needed better technique and strength. This is the magic third year…at least we’ll know. Same for McQuistan.
Some of the UDFA pickups have a lot of promise as well. I would not be surpised to see Proctor replaced by one of them and 2 should make the Practice Squad.
So while not drafting well is not ideal, it’s certainly not devastating…just expensive. The starters should remain healthy (OLine gets the fewest injuries…that cause them to miss games) and if so, we’re fine.
I would also profer that 80% of the NFL is in the same boat…most wondering who will start, much less backup. No team can suffer a starter going out and production not diminishing, at least some.
It's not personal, it's just business
absolutely great post
could not agree more
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
-Winston Churchill
also
while i agree Davis, Gurode and Columbo are in their prime…they make way too many dumb boneheaded plays to not at least consider having them replaced. Gurode’s mistakes over the last 2 years have been goofier than romo’s, and thats saying something. If our line continues to put our offense in 2nd and long, 3rd and long by a. penalties and b. not run blocking well, this offense no matter the talent at the skill positions will be stagnant.
Yeah
It seems to be less a talent problem and more one of consistency. Every two or three snaps a different guy has a lapse and the RB is stuffed or Romo is dodging or getting hit. It’s the way the Dallas secondary used to play…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
or is it coaching? how come they were good in 07 and next year become
infectiously dumb. I know that Flo played injured and Kosier’s absence threw off the line’s own dynamic, but those are thing that coaching should have adjusted for.
respectfully disagree with part of your comments
if these guys were rookies entering their second season after a banner first year, I’d wholeheartedly agree with you.
however…
these are vets pretty much in the prime of their respective careers.
do they really need a coach to remind them to be/play smart?
now as I DO AGREE with your comment on coaching should’ve adjusted better for Kosier’s absence. that is most-definitely dead on.
but the blame should also be shared with the front office for not drafting/acquiring some reliable OL depth the past few years.
that would’ve allowed them to bench current o-line starters (if even for a few plays) for repeated in-game screw ups.
but it’s obvious that they’re not confident in Free and McQ.
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by silverblue5 on Jun 20, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Was the offseason really an experiment in "chemistry over pure talent"...
or was it really a youth movement? I think the chemistry perception is largely tied to T.O.‘s release, and, to be sure, he was a drama king. But the offseason moves as a whole look more like an attempt to get younger— and give our picks in prior years a real chance to stand up and show their worth. If the team doesn’t live up to its promise in 2009, we may likely see a coaching change. But I don’t really see this as a “crossroads” in which Jerry is looking to experiment in competing philosophies. Win or lose, it won’t be long until Jerry brings in another talented but problem laden mercenary to address a position of real need. A leopard doesn’t lose its spots.
Good points, all
but take a deeper look at the future… If the reports are accurate (and in the world of sensationalist sports journalism it’s a really big “if”) Stephen talked Jerry into jettisoning these high-profile guys against Jerry’s instinct. So two things may emerge from this – Stephen is becoming more of a force in the organization, and in the short and long term, he may represent a culture change for the franchise.
Just a thought.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I'm all for that
I think Stephen’s a very sharp business mind, and he appears to know his football as well and perhaps more importantly, trust the input of his scouts. I like our future in his hands. Although I’m in no hurry to rush Jerry out, he’s still one of the top owners in all of sports as far as I’m concerned.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I agree
No way this offseason was a “chemistry versus talent” experiment. The current team IS STILL IMMENSELY TALENTED. Not yelling at you, Bound, but people around these boards seem to be setting up 2008 as “The talented group of individuals that were too selfish to win,” and 2009 as “The gutty, gritty group of overachievers who overcome a lack of talent via effort.”
I get why people are doing that— it’s the easy story to frame up in your head, and it’s the story the general media will be going with (because they are lazy. Never forget this. Sportswriters are SUPREMELY lazy).
However, I just don’t believe that that black and white distinction between ‘08 and ’09 is accurate. In reality, this team is probably just as talented as last year’s.
I understand we let go of some malcontents, but I would argue that every cut we made was made for more than just chemistry reasons. Greg Ellis, Zach Thomas, even Terrell Owens (who had ceased beings able to beat press coverage)— these were all players with diminishing ON FIELD production, not just locker rooms issues. Tank Johnson did not appear to be a fit in the 3-4 and produced in a very limited way, and Pacman Jones freelanced far too much for Dave Campo’s liking. Let’s not make it seem like we cut Demarcus Ware in his prime solely for chemistry reasons. Certainly we parted ways with these players PARTLY for locker room reasons, but their diminished on-field ability made that possible.
On the other side, we’ve got a lot of young players (Martellus, Jenkins, Choice, Scandrick, Felix Jones) who should be markedly better this year than last, simply because they are one year older and more experienced. Gerald Sensabaugh should be an upgrade over Keith Davis, who took the majority of snaps at SS last year. Montrae Holland has a year in the system and should in shape. Our backup QB is significantly better. We’ve got Roy Williams, who was a nonfactor last year, for a full season.
So why do we believe that this year’s team is less talented than last year’s?
The chemistry storyline has gotten old to me. I hope this year’s team has a great locker room vibe and I hope they give 100% on the field. But if last year’s team had suffered a handful fewer injuries, they would’ve made the playoffs, chemically imbalanced or not. And I see no reason to think that this current team is less talented than that version.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I think your point is a valid one
and I hope marks a change of course – dumping aging players just before they crap out. The Pats, Iggles and Steelers have masters of that art. It’s only way you keep “reloading” instead of rebuilding. If that was the motivation, it’s an even better sign.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Exactly Dunk
To me, us cutting Greg Ellis and TO is akin to the Eagles parting ways with Hugh Douglas and Jeremiah Trotter. Both of those players were productive in their final seasons for the Eagles, and both of them fell off a cliff in the next season with their new teams. The Eagles let them go at precisely the right moment. They are the best in the league at making those decisions on veterans.
(On a somewhat related note, that’s why I’m not really buying this “Donovan McNabb got a raise” business…I highly doubt all that money is guaranteed, and I’d bet he actually loses money in the long term by accepting more up front. The Eagles don’t give sentimental raises when they are not forced to.)
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I thought the same thing
on Owens. What if the media speculation that TO’s release (and all the other “malcontents”) was really more about cutting guys before their skills cost games. I think TO still has good flat-out speed, but I think his burst has diminished. Perfect time to let him go, because it also appears to send a message (Jimmy never cut stars to send messages; he cut guys he would have cut anyway) about being accountable to the coaching staff.
I also think they went after a very particular type of layer in the draft- try-hard athletes, not college all-stars.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
"Never forget this. Sportswriters are SUPREMELY lazy"
Wow. Let me get you a broader brush to paint with.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Amen, brother!
There is EVERY reason to believe they will be better
It's not personal, it's just business
money comment
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by silverblue5 on Jun 20, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Good stuff Carl
I have high hopes for this year, but I have high hopes every year! I hope that JJ doesn’t blow this up if we don’t go deep into the playoffs, I’m hoping he is looking to build a new culture at the Cowboys, and develop his talent instead of trying to buy someone elses at inflated prices.
I would also like to see the team have a chance to come together. The military guys will know what I meann when I say, ‘unit cohesion’. The Marine Corps likes to keep the same guys together in the same groups as long as possible to build that unit cohesion. They have a couple of centuries of experience that says this is a key component to success when the going gets tough.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
Jerry Jones has been patient twice before…
Once, when he first owned the team and allowed Jimmy to create the dynasty of the 90’s. The other was when Parcells came in and he allowed Bill to put some of the pieces in place that we see now. Heck he even gave Dave Campo (the worst HC in team history) 3 straight years of 5-11 to turn things around.
Jerry tends to get antsy when the team does not appear to be heading in the right direction or when they are seemingly a player or two away from being a true contender (thus his moves to bring in guys like TO, Pacman, and last year RW).
If Jerry is expecting a Vince Lombardy trophy next year then his expectations are way too high and we’re in real trouble if he is intent on making major changes when anything shy of that is accomplished.
What I think is more likely though is that JJ wants to see the type of growth that clearly illustrates that the team is progressing towards the next level. A 10-6 season culminating with a playoff win or two would be just what the Doctor ordered. From there he would look to make some minor improvements to notch the team up another level (hopefully those improvements would be made along the line of scrimmage and not, yet again, with the skill position players).
However, if the team misses the playoffs again next year, (or worse) then I’d expect Jerry, at the very least, to bring in a new coaching staff.
Demarcus Ware: The Beast of the East.
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As I said above...
…I’d argue that if you go down the roster, this team is just as talented, if not MORE talented, than last year’s squad. I don’t think expectations should be any lower than they were last year.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
i think expectations were too high last year regardless
given that the eagles and giants were much better teams than in 07, and we didn’t have the terrible afc east and nfc north on our schedule, reasonable expectations were around 10-12 wins. I remember I predicted 12-4 at the beginning of the year, but i didn’t think the Eagles D was gonna turn around the way they did and we also ran into Romo’s injury (as well as like 6 other key contributors).
I think reasonable expectations for this year are agian 10-12 wins. The nfc south is a division we’ve faired well against aside from the saints, and the afc west is an utter joke. But our division is certainly tougher.
If Jerry's expectations EVERY YEAR is not to win a Super Bowl
then we need to get a new owner in here who expects to win.
Haha
I like it!
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Jun 19, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
OL = 8-8 Season again..
Agree – but the lack of an OL that can run/drive block could spell trouble. In the League you have to be able to drive guys off the ball in the redzone and we are one of the worst at doing this; Rafael had mentioned this. This insidious problem has bothered me for several years now. Until we get younger and meaner on the left side, we are destined towards an 8-8 year.
"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"
"Destined"
Had the same old line last year with other injuries on top of it and still went 9-7. So what did we drive off the path of destiny last year?
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with a tougher schedule and many injuries
However, I agree that this OL as it has played the last 2 years is not good enough for us to make real noise in the playoffs – the pass rush in the nfc has improved drastically.
3 of 5 made the Pro Bowl, Colombo deserved to, and Kosier (we now know) is the key.
That 13-3 record and Pro Bowl accolades in ’07 was well deserved. Every single preseason rag had the ’Boys line ranked #1 or #2.
They started last year right where they left off. Then went Kosier and Flo (partially).
How in the world can that be considered not good enough?
It's not personal, it's just business
"Romo Roundtable"... Here you go Terry
SI just posted a “Romo Roundtable” panel discussion of what it will take for the Boys to get to the next level. (Perloff; Tucker; Trotter; Banks). Alot of discussion about Romo’s conditioning, aptitude, and the teams propensity to melt down in December. Lots of criticism directed at Garrett.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/06/18/romo.roundtable/index.html?eref=T1
The article is running with a concept that has been refuted by Romo
but, besides that the conditioning topic is not taken up by the commentors it was used as a spring board by Don Banks to get a “Will Tony Romo lead the team to success” round table.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
I disagree with Trotter
“Romo hasn’t been the same since the seattle game”. Romo’s had his moments in december. (Washington, NYG, Baltimore 4th alst year come to mind, I think those situations showed a lot of toughness. pretty much nothign in 2007, and only the atlanta game in 2006). I’d say Romo is actually improving in this regard….in fact, i think its almost undeniable he is. But noone remember any of that crap because he was awful against pitt and made too many dumb turnovers against philly, and that taste sticks in your mouth for a long time.
Also…Romo has completely refuted the story, and I don’t see whats in it for him to deny it, especially when he had jsut recently talked about the importance of staying in shape.
Thanks for this Bound. Look forward to reading it. I love SI.com, but Perloff needs to go.
Bucky Brooks knows a lot more about football than Perloff, who’s made some supremely lazy and stupid comments about the Cowboys. Stuff that was assumed and so untrue.
I’ll shut up now and go da link.
Thanks again, Bruh…
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Jun 20, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Here's a case where I should've read the link first...
Perloff was actually very big-picture oriented and gave the most accurately detailed comments of the roundtable.
With Brett Favre still retired, Romo is the most over-scrutinized player in the NFL. Romo constantly takes the blame for a variety of Cowboys’ woes, even though he’s developed steadily throughout his career. Dallas hasn’t won a playoff game, but Romo is an impressive 21-8 in the regular season over the past two years.
Romo’s December meltdown last season had to do more with the schedule (at Pittsburgh, Giants, Baltimore, at Philadelphia) than his physical condition. And even during that murderous stretch, Romo had some good moments — he led the Cowboys to a win over New York and mounted a furious comeback against Baltimore.
That definitely put things in perspective. For this particular piece, I do humbly apologize.
However, I still stand behind my disdain for his past ignorant/inaccurate comments that he’s written regarding our Dallas Cowboys.
Moving forward…
I also thought that Tucker’s opinion below was money.
Romo’s biggest problem at this point is the perception, real or otherwise, that he does not take his craft as seriously or care as deeply about winning as the elite quarterbacks in the league like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Romo’s “put it in perspective” comments after critical losses don’t help either.
And Mullin points out facts that you’ll seldom hear/read from the mainstream mediots:
Romo, in three seasons as the Dallas starter, has never posted a passer rating lower than 91 or been sacked more than 24 times, meaning he has pocket savvy and knows what to do with the extra time his innate athleticism buys him. And of the two, pocket presence is more important than mobility; see also: Marino, Dan; Roethlisberger, Ben; Jurgenson, Sonny.
Once again, thanks for posting that compelling link, Bound.
Interesting reading, man.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Jun 20, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Jerry is a fan too!
" but do you think we would have seen the total makeover we saw had the Cowboys enjoyed some playoff success. "
I was thinking about all the offseason changes. If I had to guess, it wasn’t the lack of offseason success that did in the old success template. I bet if we won the eagles game all this wouldn’t have happened.
The eagles game was a tough one for me to watch. The expectations coming into last year were enormous and mid-year hoopla certainly hurt… But to watch the team fold like that when all the marbles were on the line hurt as a fan. It maybe wasn’t so bad that we lost so much as we gave up and didn’t compete. It was tough for me, but also for Jerry. He is a fan first and a manager/owner second.
Imagine what was going through Jerry’s mind that day… I wonder if we had fought hard but lost if TO would then be on the team.
McGruber!
Interesting Thought
I don’t really have any idea if the offseason would have gone the same way, but for my money, I am happy how it turned out. Dallas cut underperforming players (to their contracts that is) and malcontents/drama queens, and has finally started somewhat learning from their mistakes. I mean even Jay Ratliff admitted yesterday that the team was not on the same page last year, and in my opinion that was the root of the problems that showed so obviously in the last game of the season. Will this year be any more successful than last year? Maybe, maybe not. But like I said, I think Jerry has this team headed in the right direction for the future.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 19, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
The QB fainted after the Eagles game.
Along with not showing up for the game.
Please tell me again how this guy is going to lead us to a Superbowl.
well - the thinking is that you continue to stroke Romo's fragile psyche....
then remove vocal playmakers that will pressure Romo to throw them the ball (Owens) and then you mix in a little more Felix, Tashard and Barber…
this is the gameplan for 2009 with Romo….if this doesn’t work – then 2010 will likely have a new coach and all bets are off with Romo at the QB position
if anything – 2009 will answer a lot of questions
Nothing is guaranteed Terry
But I would say that it’s highly unlikely unless Romo just turns into Rex Grossman overnight.
I mean how bad is a bad enough season that he won’t be the QB?
If they go 10-6 but are bounced in the first round, would they try to go to another QB?
No, that would be seriously stupid.
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by AirforceBat on Jun 19, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
ok, other than passing away or having a career ending injury
but you know what I mean. Even being terrible won’t do it because McGee will simply not be ready yet and Kitna could never be any better.
In Romo we Trust
agreed
Romo would have to play as bad as he did those last 5 weeks, and i’ve never seen him play that bad before. It was obvious he was doing all he could, but he just did not seem to physically have that touch he had before getting hurt.
And seriously. We have at worst one of the top 10 qbs in the league, unless Romo of december 08 is Romo of 09. We are not getting rid of him, its franchise suicide to consider replacing your qb in a great passing offense like ours.
but if they go 6-10 and Romo still makes dopey mistakes, I could see serious changes coming to the organization, including rethinking the qb position
not saying it is going to happen, I hope it does not, but nothing is guaranteed, and anything is possible.
Put it this way, if the Giants did not win the SUper Bowl against the Pats, I am not totally certain that Eli would still be their QB. There were growing doubts about the guy, but he put them on the backburnerwhen the Giants won the Super Bowl
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
sure
and if we go 13-3 and get to the nfc championship or superbowl on the back of our passing offense, there will no longer be questions about Romo, Roy, Austin, etc.
We may have gone 9-7 last year, but we contended strongly with 3 of the 4 championship finalists and the giants. We may not have won those games, but we were EXTREMELY close, down to a couple bounces and pure dumb luck/injuries. This team, even lastyear, was not THAT far off from seriously contending, we just didn’t make those 3-4 plays a game we needed too.
This applies to Carl’s article too – I think every team in the league outside of the steelers faces these same questions. What if Brady doesn’t come back playing well for the Pats?What if Eli can’t get it done this year without help at wr? does a 4 game run where he played efficient, not great, efficient football make up for the years hes sucked in december? Philly is relying on abunch of new guys to come in and perform. But their biggest question imo is mcnabb – the guy really hasn’t been an elite qb for years now, what happens when he declines physically for good(we all know his accuracy has never been great). If things go wrong in washington, they may as well blow up the offense considering Portis, Moss, Cambell are all either on the wrong side of 30 or in cambells case, its probably his last chance to show hes a legit qb.
Sean I was listening to Joe Avezzano.......
and he was saying that unfortunately, right or wrong, until the QB of the Cowboys wins, he will always be under heavy scrutiny from both fans and the media. The only reason that Brady and Manning get passes is because they have won-which Romo hasn’t. He also said that behind the scenes Aikman was fun-loving and jovial. Not the stone faced dull guy that alot of us fans see. The point that I’m trying to make is, Aikman realized that he was under intense scrutiny and that he was representing the Cowboys everytime he spoke publically or as Avezzano said “Troy got it.” Only when Romo “gets it” will this monkey go off his back.
Papa Joe is right but
sports media was far different from what it is today. I have no idea how Troy would have held up after his first disasterous season with the kind of hyper-scrutiny teams and players get now. T
hink about it. Romo is Dallas’ frst legit QB in a decade, he sets records in two full seasons of starting, gets them to the play-offs two years out of three and SeanRude thinks it’s make or break time. If that is not ridiculous, I need ot look the word up again.
I’d welcome the days back when we just watched the games, screamed at the refs, and left psycho-analysis to the sports docs.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Dunkman you are right in that.......
the media is very different today. However, you have to learn what you can say and when to keep your mouth shut with them because they will twist everything around to their liking. Is it fair? Of course not, but you just have to understand that when you are the QB of the Cowboys that’s just the way it is. Don Meredith retired way before he needed to because he couldn’t take the booing and media criticism way back in the late 60’s. Even Troy listend to the boos at the end of his career. The biggest difference between Troy and Romo was once the season was over, you never saw or heard anything out of him. He kept his private life separate. He made a point of being very low profile and keeping out of the limelight. Therefore, he didn’t set himself up for all the media fire-storm that Romo has faced because of Jessica, Cabo and etc. BTW, these are not my words, but Joe’s words.
I agree with you about 98%
Tony needs to hire a PR person to get him interview savvy. He makes mistakes that he could avoid.
On the other hand, Troy also dated celebrities and had awful early seaons. Today that would be run non-stop. So it’s also a little unfair to comopare them. That said, my point reinforces what you are saying about Romo – that’s the lay of the land so learn to navigate it.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Aikman dated his share of celebrities. Lorrie Morgan comes to mind
but I remember a few others. He has dated 3 women in the 6 years he has been on the team. 2 of them are/were long term.
Cabo was a F_up because Jessica dumbass publicity loving Dad sold photos. I think you expect media but I wouldnt have seen that coming either.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Romo has dated
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
you don't know that........
according to Joe Avezzano, Aikman was very smart with the media. He knew how to be stone faced and dull to keep them at arms length. The reality was inside the locker room Avezzano said Aikman was fun loving and “jovial”. My point is, he always was aware of his perception with the media and he never wanted to give the media any ammunition. You are correct that the internet wasn’t strong back in his playing days (it was around though) however, the media hounded the Cowboys all the way back to Meredith’s days. Maybe not to the extent as now, but they were still around.
the internet was invented back then.....
not as prevalent but it was around.
Explain what you mean......
I’m trying to say that Aikman’s a pretty smart cookie. He wouldn’t get himself in to the situations that Romo seems to get himself into. I’m pretty sure that he wouldn’t set himself up with the media by going to Cabo before the biggest game of the season. As Joe Avezzano says about Aikman “He gets it.” He said he doesnt know if Romo truly get it. Hopefully you’re right and maybe Romo finally gets it. Hanging out with ol Jessica and her media hungry dad isn’t exactly helping him out here ya know? Terry’s right in that the internet has made athletes lives more public, but as an athlete you have to learn how to deal with it.
not saying that i completely disagree with you
just that the media today is very much more involved in these players lives. For example, I don’t think TO would have quite the same horrible effect on his teams back then.
For example, i doubt any of us fans would ever KNOW that one of the players took a weekend vacation in the bye week in the mid 90s. I seriously doubt it actually. And given the list of characters on that team, it wouldn’t shock me.
Frankly, I think the media plays a huge role in what we considering successful athletes. And for 99% of the time, the media only considers whether teams won or lost, not how they played. Romo played pretty darn well during that giants game i thought, but many of the players around him let him down. If they don’t, we wouldn’t remember cabo at all. If you lose in january and are a celebrity qb, ou care more about having fun than the game. If you win, everyone disregards your celebrity status. Regardless of how hard youve worked. Thats BS in my mind.
While Romo going to cabo didn’t help his case, and aikman is right in that he probably should be a little more concerned about image….I could care less about the way the media presents an issue. I know I’m not like most fans in this regard, which is why I see Aikmans point. When we read articles CONSTANTLY about Romo being a hard worker, I could care less if he takes a weekend vacation in a bye week, when he probably watched more football and talked more football than most players on his team in that time.
Also, this Jessica point bothers me too Romos been dating her for like 2 years now or something. If he was just going from one big name gf to another, I would worry about m qbs priorities. but thats not the case. Which is why i think saying crap like “Hanging out with ol Jessica and her media hungry dad isn’t exact him out there you know” is well…crap.
also
given the way wade has always talked about Romo, you would think Romo “gets it” too
you and I agree.......
but what I meant by the Jessica comment is that her dad in particular is media hungry. He will do anything to keep Jessica in the news. He doesn’t appear to care who he hurts in the process. That’s all I meant by that comment.
I did not say it is make or break time
but if the Cowboys season is dissapointing yet again, like it has been the past three years (and hell yes, losing to seattle and then losing to the giants the next year in theplayoffs were dissappointing ends to seasons, and I am not even going to bring up that abortion of a game in Philly last year), then it is time to closely examine what this team is and the idea that this team is not as talented as everyone here seems to think it is is surely on the table, and that maybe the time to look for a replacement for ROmo is sooner than rather than later is certainly not off the table.
And just to clarify , how am I “psychoanalyzing” anybody? This is sports for crying out loud, and if you don’t get it done in your third full year as a starter in the most important position in the game, on a team that is supposedly loaded for bear, why would you not take a long hard look at Romo, and everyone else on the team for that matter?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Because his performance has been exceptional
He’s not even close to the “problem” with this team.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
And the psycho-analysis comment
wasn’t directed at you, but rather all those who pretend to know what REALLY goes on in a player’s head. It’s nonsense, whether it comes from a blogger or JJT.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Look bro
If you don’t like him, then that’s cool.
But the dude had injured ribs and collapsed, he didn’t faint. Why would you make fun of someone that’s hurt?
That’s as bad as the Eagle fans cheering when Irvin was hurt to me.
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by AirforceBat on Jun 19, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
Exactly my thoughts
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 19, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
he did not faint hater
he collapsed because of the cracked ribs he sustained during the Eagles debacle and if you watched the game, you’d realize the entire team didn’t show up for that game, not only Romo.
Romo will lead us to the SB because he is simply one of the best qbs in the game and there isn’t a qb in the league I’d rather have leading the Cowboys to a championship.
In Romo we Trust
Wow
I can’t believe you are seriously bringing up the shower situation. The fact is that he was so badly bruised from the beating he took that he had broken ribs and would not have been able to play the next week even if the Cowboys had somehow won. To sit him and criticize him for that of all reasons is not only low, but an absolute crappy criticism.
And as for Romo winning a playoff game this year, I have no idea if he will or not, but it would sure help if the defense and offensive line decided to show up along with him (one thing Troy could usually count on).
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 19, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually it was cracked ribs and separated rib cartilidge.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Fainted?
You mean the same way Tom Brady “quit on his team” with that sissy-a$$ knee excuse? The guy was injuried. You really have no clue, breath, and apparently very little humanity.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Didn't he have a floating ribcage?
Tony passing out in the shower after getting the stuffing knocked out of him in that game doesn’t bother me.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
The fact he stayed in that game in that condition should be the story but the haters want to hate and if it doesnt make their point their not interested.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Dude had broken ribs!
Okay, he really sucked playing with broken ribs, behind a broken line, with broken RBs, and (at least for this game) a broken defense.
That’s like saying Aikman didn’t care in Detroit because he doesn’t remember the game.
It's not personal, it's just business
What is Tom Brady gets hurt the first drive of the season?
Oh yea it did happen. They just plugged in their back-up QB and still won 11 games.
There are alot of “what-ifs” scenarios for every team, you have to just take it in stride and roll with it.
Though I do want to point out if anyone starts calling for Romo’s head their an idiot. He’s got franchise records, his regular season stats are almost always top 5 or so for his position when healthy, and 80% or more teams would DIE to have Romo under center.
Cowboy Nation is so impatient it makes me sick sometimes, if we had Peyton Manning we would of been calling for his head too before he actually won a post season game, which BTW never happened until he had a defense fully support him.
by LonghornsLegend on Jun 19, 2009 10:42 AM CDT reply actions
Who did we have before Romo?
Oh yeah, Beldsoe, Carter, Hutchinson, Henson, etc. And you want to dump Romo if the TEAM doesn’t progress? You want to put a rookie in there (McGee)? He is the best QB we have had since Aikman, you don’t dump him after 2 1/2 years as a starting QB in the NFL. If we still had one of those QBs above, you would be dying to have someone as talented as Romo!!
I will say the opposite of JJT: Romo will go as far as the TEAM takes him. Does Romo have to perform well? Hell yeah he does, but Romo can perform wonderfully and it won’t matter if the DEF, ST, and o-line doesn’t perform well. He will get most of the blame, but everyone has to perform well for this team to be successful, not just Romo.
"Romo will go as far as the TEAM takes him."
If this statement is true, then we are going to see a radically changed offense this season. The team I have been watching the past three seasons goes as Romo goes.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
I agree, I saw the same thing
but my point is really that everyone else has to perform well ALSO in order for the team to be successful. If Romo performs badly, we are in trouble. Usually if Romo performs well, we are a hard team to beat. But if Romo performs well, but the DEF and ST perform badly, we are STILL in trouble. No matter how well Romo performs he doesn’t play DEF or ST.
Ok so then what was happening...
the years before that they weren’t doing good in December?
it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.
i may be wrong
but i don’t think his point was to argue that Romo was the reason for our december faults – just that considering how much we rely on our passing game, Romo will play a larger role in our success than your average qb.
agreed
unless our oline can start pushing people off the line and opening up holes in the run game, this season, like the last 3, will revolve around our passing game. I wouldn’t say it “goes as romo goes” but it sure as heck goes as our passing offense goes. actually thats not true, I saw a potentially elite defense those last 8 -10 weeks last year that could carry us.
Romo is on Ropes
We can discuss this all we want, but let’s get serious guys…if Romo falls apart again in December and is non-chalant about it again, his future would be in serious question in Dallas. I wish him well.
"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"
by SaratogaRacing on Jun 19, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions
Pure hyperbole
First you assume he has fallen apart in December and second that changing him out would solve the December problems. You are wrong on both counts. How long has Dallas failed to win a play-off game, and for how many of those years was Romo under center?
It’s not by accident they call it a “football team” (or “club” if you’re Steve Superior).
I think the coaches may be on the ropes, because coaches are easier to find than franchise QBs.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
1) If you think Romo was non-chalant, I suggest you rewatch that interview and consider what I would call “coping method.”
2) If you think it was only Romo that fell apart, I suggest you get your hands on the game broadcasts and grade the other units of the team (needless to say it will be ugly). Until I see proof that it is Romo that is holding us back, I will not begin to doubt him (not to say I don’t think he could improve) as it pertains to his potential to win in the playoffs.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 19, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Just looking over the comments on this thread (and any other)...
…I think it’s clear where the pressure is this year.
It’s on Romo, for better or worse.
Every thread turns into a Romo discussion, at least in part. He’s going to be the fan and media focal point for this team, fairly or unfairly, and he will receive either the credit for our success or the blame for our failure.
Probably not fair, and savvy fans like the ones on these boards know that a lot more goes into winning or losing than QB play, but that’s the easy storyline and that’s where the pressure lies this year. Wade might be fighting for his job, and I’m sure that’s stressful, but to ESPN he’s nearly invisible standing next to Romo.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
If you mean public perception
then you are correct. But as true as that may be, I doubt the franchise act based on what ESPN says as long as they are satisfied with their own evaluation of the position.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Oh, I agree
But when we say “pressure” in the way Carl was talking about it, I usually think of public media and fan perception.
Internal evaluations and guys keeping their jobs on that front is another story.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
True but as the playmaker and newton said on Mike's radio show yesterday
everything that romo does is going to be magnified by 100 times, the TO after-effect is going to be alive this year. If romo and RW are not able to connect and make plays in the beginining of the season they scrutiny will come down on RW as well, and he will more than likely give them a sound byte they can use to generate headlines. So with that looming , Romo and RW must know what is waiting for them if they they struggle.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Oh definitely
But he’d have that target on his back regardless. Once the media has a convenient “narrative” they pursue it relentlessly. Think back to the “TO Pass Counter”. Every friggin game they tallied the throws to TO because their narrative was that he couldn’t beat press coverage anymore. True or not, it was pure insanity.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
TO
The TO pass counter had nothing on the media’s ability to make everything a drop. There was one play I remember where Romo threw it really low when he (Romo) had a guy right in his face and it was basically at TO’s feet who was running full speed. TO tried to grab it but could only graze it and Joe Buck made some snarky comment about another drop. It was one of those deals when you see just how blinded the media can be to simply follow a “narrative” as dunkman calls it.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 19, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
philly game
people are taking one game and acting like dallas played that way all season. how can you do that? when you do research on something you don’t take one sample and judge by that. now i was shocked by the philly game but i’m not going to use that one game to cloud my judgement for this season. teams come out flat, it happens. that’s why they play the games. there have been plenty of games where the underdog whipped the fav. it happens. and so it happened to dallas. no reason to question their pride or heart. what the hell. if you have one bad day at work will your boss question your work ethic or pride? i doubt it. he would more than likely write it off to a bad day.
That game was telling...
Romo sucks when he’s injured.
Hiding weaknesses only lasts so long (see Proctor, Keith Davis, Zach Thomas, Anthony Henry, and even Choice).
The team quit after the 3rd Quarter follies. The turnovers and mistakes rolled as did the Eagles. The team obviously gave up in the 3rd Qtr. They looked spent and Romo (clearly performing like he was injured) could muster nothing…so they gave up.
Well, here I’ll grant the negative nellies a point. Quitting is always a bad sign. But teams do it. Look at Philthy when they benched McNabb? They quit, and every mediot was calling them dead. So it’s not as if it is defining (as in character, chemistry, etc) nor predictive. Arizona had a mid-season swoon as well that was questioning of their “character”.
BTW, who played in the NFC Championship game?
It's not personal, it's just business
agree
i agree it was telling in some ways. but not nearly enough to say this team has no heart or pride. football players are people and people have bad days. i’m just saying to chill on that kind of talk. one game can’t tell you that kind of stuff imo.
This is indeed the question, and gee-roj below makes some good points.
It was only one game, but it was the LAST game. And don’t forget the meltdowns on D against Baltimore.
So that’s what concerns me. If they were midseason games, we would already know how the team reacted to those ridiculous performances. But no matter how much they say the right things all offseason, we don’t know anything about this team’s ability to deal with adversity (I’ll avoid words like ‘heart’ or ‘guts’) until the last 4 games of next season.
They can be 10-0, and I’ll still be waiting to see how they perform when it starts to count, because other teams get BETTER as the season goes on, (esp. the Eagles, who seem to benefit from Reid’s demeanor) , while our team gets worse.
To weigh in on Romo, he’s the starter until his contract is up, so let’s drop that one. McGee? He might not even make the team! Or could be a Pr. Squad guy.
by Realist Larry on Jun 19, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The Philly game looms larger because it was essentially a playoff game…
You’re looking at a franchise that hasn’t won a "win and you move on" game since the ’96 season. A coach that is now 0-5 in, "win or go home" games (if you count this 44-6 debacle).
Now I agree with you that it is folly to use just one game as example of how the team played all season but they came wholly unprepared for the biggest game of the year (which I blame the coaching staff for); so I’m willing to look at some other games as well.
They had a chance to lock up a playoff spot one week earlier against the Ravens, at home, and couldn’t get it done there either. They certainly had no business getting rocked 34-14 by a Rams team that finished the season 3-13 (even w/ out Romo). There were just too many games were the team just did not appear to show up and put up any kind of fight; how about that 35-14 thumping by the Giants at the meadowlands for example? This team didn’t just lose some games last season; they got their asses kicked in quite a few of them. Even some of the wins were ugly, i.e. that Cincinnati game had no business being as close as it was after they jumped out to a 24-0 lead.
I have been dead set against the hiring of Wade Phillips since day 1 but have some hope that things may be different in 2009 as the team really does seem to be taking a different approach. I particularly like how he will be serving as the team’s soul D-coordinator this year and that they seem to be bringing in some new players that fit his agressive schemes better.
Demarcus Ware: The Beast of the East.
The L.A. Lakers are 2009 NBA Champions!
It comes down to performing under pressure.
Some athletes/teams can concentrate and summon an ability to focus and execute under pressure-some can’t. This intersects w/ our constant discussions about “Leadership,” -whether it’s the coaches or a few players, someone on this team-and you always hope it’s the QB in the NFL-needs to take the pressure and be willing to step forward and get the team to focus. It can be loud, rah-rah M. Irvin style, it can be quiet, Montana/Aikman/Emmitt style, but it has to be done.
If teams and athletes can’t concentrate and perform when the pressures on, it’s called choking, plain and simple. So far this group of players are chokers, until they prove otherwise.
It can change, and we do have some young talent, so it will be interesting to see how this team with the new players reacts as the season goes on and injuries etc. hit.
by Realist Larry on Jun 19, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Have no idea why the crossed-out happened.
must have hit some button I don’t know about
by Realist Larry on Jun 19, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
It's Carl
if you don’t slavishly agree with him he marks your post like a blank wall in a bad neighborhood…
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Ha!
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Jun 19, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't really call Emmitt a leader
I think he’s an example of a great player who wasn’t necessarily a standout team leader, which is fine. Not every great player has to be. But as is noted in “Boys Will Be Boys,” Emmitt was a somewhat self-absorbed guy (he gave copies of his autobiography to his teammates as birthday gifts)…I think Irvin and Aikman are your offensive leaders from those teams. No knock on Emmitt— just because you’re a transcendent talent doesn’t mean you have to be a team leader, and vice versa (Bryan Cox was always cited as a great leader, and Bradie James has that role on this defense, and neither were ever the best players on their side of the ball for their team).
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
First legit information regarding TO's departure
Jerry and Steven finally speak out. This is from Michael Silver on Yahoo.
Good article, what alot of us thought.
When a players skills go they go fast. I dont think TO skills have abandoned him yet but when they do it will be a lost season for that team. It wont be his fault.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
exactly, did hit the nail in the head, whatever wrong goes around is never TO's fault, although I really
really hoped he is around one more season
yea it is an interesting point
considering hes 35 and last year he screamed for the ball even though a. e couldn’t beat out double coverage and b. the ball was already going his way quite a lot worried me.
I would honestly bet that Romo personally played small role in TOs departure, but ownership and Garrett thought that TO could no longer be the voice of the football team, especially considering his declining skills.
Foyesboys,
Yeah, but it won’t really matter what role Romo played for the pro-TO people they’ll blame him none the less. And Garrett will still get the blame for TO not getting off press coverage and Witten will still be regarded as "in on it" somehow, maybe he’ll be blamed for the TO-Witten nearly coming to blows incident at the practice facility. Even though it seems much more likely that the near fight incident was the consummate professional Witten telling the legendary malcontent TO to STFU.
Helping to get rid of TO isn't something to be 'blamed' for, lol!
I’m proud of Romo if he had a part in it.
Should have happened ealier, or his contracts should have been kept to one-year deals…..
by Realist Larry on Jun 19, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Just confirming what most knew.
Owens departure was, once again, because he’s a megalomaniac with insecurity issues.
Can’t wait to see the defense from the bizarre "Owens is a scapegoat", "it’s a media conspiracy" crowd.
Apparently the front office thinks that Romo is going to become a leader now
And this is when Romo was saying a few days back that if you aren’t self-motivated to do something, it doesn’t matter how much someone forces you to do something, it’s not going to happen. Especially at this stage of his career.
Do you have anything positive ever to say?
Seriously man. Even Tex throws out something now and then that he’s pleased with.
You’re like eeyore or something, you can find the negative in every situation.
it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.
Those are the chicken littles. You know the sky is falling, the sky is falling.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
hey, don't talk bad about Eeyore
He’s a nice guy, just a little blue now and then.
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