Talking a Little Cowboys @ Buccaneers
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 29, 2009 10:08 PM CDT
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Is it too soon to talk about
Obviously, we’ve got training camp to get through. We’ve got players to waive (down to 75 on Sept. 1st; 53 by Sept. 5th), perhaps players to acquire, and almost assuredly will have injuries (hopefully minor) to account for. The fine-tuning will begin in
More after the jump.
Morris takes over a defense that has produced 36 Pro Bowlers since 1996, the most in the NFL, and finished as the NFLs top-ranked defense two times (2002 and 2005). The past 13 seasons have also seen the Buccaneers defense rank in the Top 10 on 11 occasions and in the Top 5 eight times.
Both teams have impressive running back corps and will lean on the rushing attack while the passing game works out the kinks. Totals bettors should look to the under on the 42 points, with the ground game eating up the clock.
Tampa Bay added Derrick Ward this offseason and he will share carries with Earnest Graham. The Cowboys have a healthy Marion Barber and Felix Jones behind Romo. Those two were on pace for a huge year last season before injuries took out Jones and slowed Barber.
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The suspense is killing me. (zombie joke)…I love the idea of the running corps eating clock and keeping our defense off the field to remain fresh and hungry.
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by BlueZombie on Jun 29, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes it is too soon...
But that hasn’t stopped me before!
Good article Aaron.
it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.
by AirforceBat on Jun 29, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes... too soon to start counting down to the preseason but...
but only 82 days until we open Cowboys Stadium with the giAINTs. My 65 year old grandmother just bought the two of us tickets! Cant wait to see Jerry World and Eli Manning to throw the first interceptions in our new house.
by apjfive on Jun 29, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Never too early, it's what we are all thinking abou!
Let’s go right now…Get ya popcorn re…uhh, wait,
Anyways, I’m ready.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Jun 29, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I
live in Tampa and never get to watch the boys play in person. But, I’ll be there to see this one. to say I’m ready is a massive understatement.
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
by iCowboy on Jun 29, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
congratulations
The first time seeing your favorite team live is magical.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
by dave33 on Jun 30, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is awesome.
Just the perspective of seeing each guy in 3D within the entirety of the field that usually gets cut off on TV. Can’t wait to see a home game!
All eyes on Free.
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 30, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-D??
Do they like give you those special glasses for a game? Some of us went to the Dallas-Skins game last year and all we got were beer goggles. Really, really expensive beer goggles…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jun 30, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wifes first football game was...
the Sunday Night game against the ‘Skins last year. She received a few death threats because of her Marion Barber jersey. She didn’t help her cause by yelling at our entire section about how we were going to kick their butts.
Having the real Marion Barber beat the ’Skins by himself was an awesome ending to the night.
by DoomsdayD75 on Jun 30, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We were at that game
It wasn’t that bad in our section. In fact, I saw a lot more Burgundy on Burgundy crime that night.
But man it was cold.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jun 30, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, the Steelers game was cold
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 30, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
it was Virginia cold that night.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jun 30, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steeler game was
Un-Godly Cold
I was there too dressed in full Boyz stuff and the Steeler fan in my section was complete assholes………….
bitched and cried for 3-1/2 quarters then became un-controlable assholes
by Nink on Jun 30, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's typical behavior of Steelers fans
That was by far and away the coldest game I’ve experienced, I can’t remember the number of clothing layers I had on but I think it was at least 5.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 30, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes it is
my first time seeing the Boys live was Cowboys Gints in 06. that was where Roy caused the fumble at the goal line, when Ellis needed oxygen after returning a ball to midfield and we won it in OT.
Sloppy game, great fun to be at.
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
by KDP on Jun 30, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be AT the game MYSELF!!!! It's never too early to look ahead for THIS game!!! 1-0 start sounds good to me!!
Since I’m a Central Florida guy….Let’s get a ROLL CALL here for WHOEVER is going to THIS (Tampa) game!!!! Maybe we can ALL meet up beforehand, and tailgate, or shoot the sh*t at least.!!!!
by My_2_Cents on Jul 2, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's never too early to talk about the Bucs
Or Giants, Eagles, etc. I’m so excited for the season to start and to focus on the now rather than the past.
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
by Grady90 on Jun 30, 2009 4:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I watched a replay of the first Cowboys-Eagles game last night
I can’t wait to see healthy versions of Barber and El Gato running the ball again. Those guys were amazing.
On a semi-related topic, I hope the roster size gets bumped up in the next CBA. The game sees to be producing more injuries, some that can waste entire seasons for teams.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jun 30, 2009 7:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Your right
I too want to see the rosters expanded.
by Musiccitynorm on Jun 30, 2009 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
El Gato?
Who are you referring to?
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
by Grady90 on Jun 30, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Felix Jones
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Jun 30, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Felix is more down with "Dash" but I like this board's previous nickname
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jun 30, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like their original names, but they don't rhyme
The Barbarian, The Cat, and Deuce.
All eyes on Free.
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 30, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they sound like super heros
If you include Romo, we could nick name the entire backfield, Capt America, Jr and the League of Justice, lol.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 30, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Justice League of America's Team
Add to that:
Cricket
Mr. Everything (Witten)
The Odessan Legend (Roy Williams)
Not-So PC (Crayton)
Speedy (Austin)
Sam-I-thought-you-Hurd
Their Henchmen:
The Hotel
K-Squared
GrrrOdd
Bigg
PileJumper (Colombo)
The Bassist (Proctor)
and Dutch (Holland)
All eyes on Free.
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 30, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot
Marty B starring as Aquaman
All eyes on Free.
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 30, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corporal America
at this stage in his career.
But we are hoping for the best.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Jun 30, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's at least make him an officer, as he's a QB!
2nd Lt. America, then….
by Realist Larry on Jun 30, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think a 2 time pro bowler
qualifies at least as a lieutenant.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 30, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about “Deuce the Cat Barbarian.”, or “The Barbarian Cat Deuce”…..I’m being facetious and couldn’t help myself.
by AKCOWBOYFAN on Jul 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly if they expand the season to 18 games...
…I’d expect an increase in roster size.
The downside is, the number of talented football players in the country is not necessarily increasing. So when you increase roster sizes, just like when you add expansion teams, you dilute the quality of your product a bit.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Jun 30, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard the owners are against it. It would mean an increase in the salary cap.
They are thinking about a lock out and fighting to bring down.
I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.
by squidlo97 on Jun 30, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, and I heard that the players union
may be asking for it per Tim’s point above.
I’m in favor of it, maybe not adding a large number. But a little more roster flexibility from a fan’s perspective seems like a good thing.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jun 30, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think 18 games is too much
NFL football is brutal and violent and the wear and tear on a player’s body should be minimized as much as possible.
16 games is plenty.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 30, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
and I don’t get the argument that they don’t need 4 preseason games—maybe the vets don’t, but the rookies do, and the coaches, to make their cuts.
But everything I’ve heard is that the 18 games will come at the expense of preseason games.
That last game is important for the ‘bubble players’ and coaches, and even the vets need at least 2 tuneups. This isn’t like college where Alabama can schedule an opener against Podunk U….
by Realist Larry on Jun 30, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expect a repeat performance of last season's opening day
Cowboys cruise to an easy opening day victory as the Bucs will be mediocre at best this season.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 30, 2009 7:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
Most people around here in SW Florida expect a long, brutal season for the Bucs, even the diehards.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jun 30, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats what I am affraid of
the Bucs are rebuilding and its very easy to overlook them, you know, if we somehow end up loosing that game (re: first ever Texans game few years back), we are looking down at possible 0-2 start with the Giants game. It is horrifying just to think about it. Hopefully coaches well be on the players backs full throttle this year and we should avoid any slops. The sign of a good team is that they will win the games they are “supposed” to win. Go Cowboys.
by dcfanz on Jun 30, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, unfortunately it will happen
as the almighty dollar always wins out in the end.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 30, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the game will be close
TB has a new head coach and lost the D Coordinator who was responsible for a lot of their defensive success. New coaches, even good one quite often take a while to get their system in place and get things rolling. I’m glad this game is early in the season, TB will probably be a much better team later.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jun 30, 2009 8:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh and...
Luke McCowen might be the starting QB.
it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.
by AirforceBat on Jun 30, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For sure...With the quarterback situation that Tampa has
Wade is probably licking his chops. He gets to unleash our guys on Leftwich, McCown, or Freeman. I honestly think its going to be Leftwich starting in week 1 and to say he is immobile is an understatement. Boys start the season off nicely with a 28-13 victory!
by jointman13 on Jun 30, 2009 8:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty good guess jointman
I saw one oddsmaker put the line at 28 – 10 Cowboys.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Jun 30, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leftwich
Not only is he immobile, but it takes him a galactic standard week to release the ball. Wade should be getting ready to release the dogs.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 30, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
As a Cowboy fan, I think you have to hope for Leftwich and that slow, baseball-windup release. That match-up would likely get our Pro Bowl hopefuls in the defense some early sack numbers.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Jun 30, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the wrost kind of game
the kind you have no business losing. I hate these games.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jun 30, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or using the alternate English spelling, "worst"...
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jun 30, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont say that. Every time we have ever started banking a win in June we lose.
I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.
by squidlo97 on Jun 30, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"A little early"..Ya think?
We haven’t even reported to training camp and you have them a “3” point favorite..Geez..
I would have thought it would be “6”..LOL..
by bevomav on Jun 30, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup, T-New is wondering how much he's going to get toasted by AB
Especially after his games against the Steelers and Eagles. Or when he’s going to have a boo-boo again.
by ym on Jun 30, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Antonio Bryant
Please, Antonio Bryant is no elite receiver. He benefitted from one of the easier schedules regarding pass defense by lighting up such juggernauts as Chicago (30th in pass D), Seattle (32nd), Kansas City(28th), Carolina (16th), Atlanta (21st), and San Diego (31st). Plus, if he could only get 45 yards last year against a Dallas team without Terence Newman, how will he do better?
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 30, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG, The Player is going to chat on NFL.com at for half-hour
Again, he manages to under achieve. Others do it for much longer.
by ym on Jun 30, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Like others have said, I can now only assume you dislike the Cowboys. Your posts are almost always negative, mis-informed, or some combination of the two. Plus, with that avatar, you clearly care very little about the Cowboys. What I would be interested to know is what team you actually support.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 30, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not too soon
that bucs offense is going to get man handled even worst than last year with romo keeping our offense on the field longer
by FearTheStar on Jun 30, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Romo threw for 5 TDs in 2006
against them, maybe he can go for 6 this year.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 30, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Changes
Although I do think that the Cowboys will fare very well against the Bucs, let us not forget what Rafael has always told us (and supported with many examples): even previously bad teams can be good using the new coach, new QB formula.
Even Brad Johnson beat the bucs last year (thanks to Wade Phillips taking over the D) and I know you all remember Romo’s 5 TD game against them 2 years ago, but our not having any film on a team gives them an advantage. Probably not a big enough advantage to overcome the talent differential, but I’m just not sure I agree with StillHate…‘s assessment above that the new coach and new QB are necessarily weaknesses. Not to mention that Leftwich seemed a lot more mobile last season than in years past; he’s definitely shed some weight and might not be quite the sitting duck he once was.
I am about as much of an optimist as Terry, but I think it’s important to remember how much of a boost, rather than a hinderance, having a new QB and new coach can actually be:
-ANYONE expect the Dolphins to make the playoffs again? They might come in last in the AFC east if they keep trying to win with trick plays.
-The Falcons won’t fall too hard since they’ve added Gonzalez and still have some premiere players in Turner, White and (probably) Matt Ryan, but I’m not so sure that they’ll hold off the Saints and Panthers this season.
Basically, someone has to be the team that surprises their way to a few extra wins and I think the Bucs are as good a candidate as any. I think I remember Leftwich looking pretty good in his limited tick with the Steelers last year.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
by NICK L on Jun 30, 2009 5:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we'll be starting from scratch with the Bucs
Since they hired their defensive coordinator from within, I think at the very least our film on their defense should hold up pretty well. So we should be decently prepared there.
As for their offense…I just see very little skill at the key positions there. Their offensive line is decent, but Winslow does not scare me (low YPC for an “elite” TE— he’s a possession guy, and we shut him down in Week 1 last year), and the rest of their skill guys wouldn’t be starting on most NFL teams.
I know the NFL is inherently unpredictable, but this is a game we should win. If we don’t, that would be a big disappointment. I think it’s fair to expect a victory.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Jun 30, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly. if we dont win,
the joke is going to be on us. I don’t want to feel embarrassed like after the Texans game
by dcfanz on Jul 1, 2009 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tampa will probably go with the rookie at qb. so I see them trying to run the ball like 40-45 times that day. I mean thats not a strech. Would you want to have your Rookie trying to air it out in his first game against our D? I dont think so
by Capn B on Jul 3, 2009 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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