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Who has the Snarl?

In game 1 of the NBA Finals, Kobe Bryant snarled with such ferocity that his Laker team mates got in line, and the opponent went cowering away. That image of leadership and tenacity left Tex contemplating one question... who has "the snarl" on this Dallas Cowboys team?

Who has the leadership to tell Patrick Crayton to keep his head in the game after a crucial drop? Who has the chutzpah to grab Tony Romo by the scruff the next time he wants to go vacationing in Cancun during the playoffs - letting the best quarterback never to win a playoff game know, in no uncertain terms, that this game matters. Or in the words of Bryant, "I just want it so bad...I just want it really bad."

That toughness isn't going to come from the gentle Wade Phillips. That leadership isn't going to come from the Simpsons. Quarterback and Head Coach, the two places most associated with command, (see Aikman & Johnson, Belichick & Brady, Landry & Staubach), are empty wells in Dallas.

Barber, Witten, Flozell, James? Close, but no where near a Michael Irvin. The best candidate may be Demarcus Ware, especially when armed with a new contract. Then again, he may not be that rabid dog type of personality who will impose his will on an entire team and/or franchise. The Cowboys need to find someone with that Charles Hayley snarl, or another disappointing season awaits.

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FIRST!!!

On a Tex fanpost. I never thought I’d see the day.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jun 5, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry to say

Noone on the Cowboys has the snarl. Noone talented enough anyway.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jun 5, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

have you had a chance to watch last year's "Hard Knocks"

Bobby was called out by Colombo and he didn’t respond, at least from what they showed.

by WestTxHornFan on Jun 8, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

He sure talked a lot of sh!# in Hard Knocks.

If he could back it up, maybe he’d snarl his lip a bit.

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 9, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree I see leadership in him he just does not have any talent

You need to at least show something on the field which he lacks but he is very intelligent and I do see leadership in him. Yes I saw hard knocks and that is what i am basing it on.

by rioplayer7 on Jun 9, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he isn't the biggest you've ever seen.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 9, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didnt Kobe lead the heavily favored Lakers into Phoenix2-3 years ago and choked in game 7.

Kobe is a phenominal player but everyones snarl carries more bite when they have a better team around them. maybe you should wait until after they win. You really dont need to put this in the closet with Henson. That gaff takes up alot of space.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 5, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Clairification

Phoenix was the heavily favored #1 seed 2-3 years ago… Kobe, with starters to include Kwame Brown and Smush Parker, pushed the Suns to 7 games.

by Montecito Tex on Jun 5, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I must side with Tex here. Dallas is nil and void of a veteran respected leader. Say what you what about TO and Ellis, but those two expressed more fire and desire to win than anyone else on the team, and both were deeply respected by their peers.

Kitna and Ratliff are about the only two i’ve seen with genuine passion and fire in their games.

and YES…having a leader that snares, and diplays the determination not to lose, and welcomes all the pressure on their backs, that defines a leader. Leaders aren’t made. They are born. Some have the ability to maximize that inner trait, some keep it harnessed inside….time to bring it out….with the older dominant vets gone, it’s time for some to step up, and take control…

Scandrick has it.
Witten has it.
Ratliff has it.
Kitna has it.
Brooking has it.
James has some.

by My_2_Cents on Jun 5, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is no doubt about the fire a leader has. We dont need to go to Kobe when we can look no farther than our own Irvin.

I cant get on board with TO. Leaders dont divide a team they unite. Leaders may snarl but they dont snarl “I love me some me!!” They dont call out teamates/coaches in the press. They do that behind close doors.

How in the hell can anyone know anything about the leadership of this years Boys. Many team leaders dont emerge until old leaders leave. Eli improved when Tiki left and Strahan shut up. I dont know the Giants but Im sure other guys stepped up when given the space. Some guys dont step up when older guys they respect are still around. Ware seemed to give Ellis the respect he deserved. Im not sure Tony could fully exert his personality with TO there. Barber certainly leads by example.
I guess because its June leadership may seem important but truthfully these guys need to come togethger as 1. Grow together a unit and push each other to another level. The rest will take care of itself in camp and preseason.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 6, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

exactly right

i’m trying to figure out how someone can make an argument that it was a bad idea to get rid of the leaders that led a consistently underachieving team.

say what you want about Eli, and I say numerous horrible things and believe them whole-heartedly, the eye test tells you that he blossomed once the boisterous malcontent in all of his meetings was gone. There is a huge diviision, save personal friendships, in the interactions of the O and the D.

Tony Romo’s more in the mold, personality wise, of Eli. Different personality types are all capable of winning SB’s, but the team has to be constructed in a manner that their way of leading is able to be received.

'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap

by KD Drummond on Jun 7, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree squidlo97

I was a TO fan and he is a hellava player (when he wants to be), but he is NO leader. They (leaders) DON’T divide a locker room, they unite them!

by Boyz4Life on Jun 8, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Funny how over 95% of that same locker room you guys speak of would go to war with TO......

divided my azz (wipe off the “media driven” cool aid mustaches already)…..losing spurs up evil and dissension among the ranks, anyone who’s played football “and lost games they know they should have won” knows that…….fingers get pointed, excuses are made….scape goats are sacrificed…..sorry TO, the team surely will miss you.

btw…Tiki Barber and Michael Strahan were most certainly THEE leaders of the NYG, and seemed to be only ostracized “AFTER” they went on a mid/late season swoon a few years back (through not fault of their own doing)….as well as countless other examples I can rattle off….Go run some old tape of Michael Irvin, and compare the same fire and will to win, and the same penchant of “up in your face” evoked determination “refuse to lose” mentality…… It’s funny how I played with the same ferocity and outspokenness my whole football life, yet was named captain by my teammates at every level of play……..obviously TO meant alot more to his teammates than “the Ed Werders of the world” have led you all to believe, as every interview i’ve seen still consists of sorrow, and obvious letdown that he’s gone. You can’t find one player that wouldn’t want him back…..That’s the effect leaders have on teams…

by My_2_Cents on Jun 9, 2009 6:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're crazy...

…did you play MLB? Must be why I like reading your rants… good stuff bro.

Hooah.

by .FRoST.USAF on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

And yet...

He is playing with his fourth team in the league.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 9, 2009 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah right,

Three straight NFL organizations have ditched TO, a hall of fame talent no less, not because he’s a complete emotional landmine who’s repeatedly proven he can’t get along with anybody in a superior position than him (rattle off list of 9 or so coaches and QB’s here), no, no, he’s a terrific leader really! These teams just needed a scapegoat for their mistakes and they decided to eject one of the teams best leaders and most dominant players on the field off the team because the media tricked them into it!!

Brilliant.

You should start a new religion and call it Terrellocaust or Terrellianity.

by Luke. on Jun 9, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's not true.

He was pretty much George Patton in Under Armour

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 9, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess " you love you some you."

Comparing the leadership of Irvin to TO is a complete joke. Your getting as bad as Terry with your rants of how great a player/ leader TO was. He has worn out his welcome 3 times but it was the reporters fault, the OCs fault, the QBs fault, the coaches fault, and now the owners. TO is misunderstood. yeah right!

Irvin biggest rants for the ball were to Herb Alexander and the OC. Irvin got into with Aikman some but there was also a great deal of respect even before the SBs. The fights between them, had a great deal of respect and he didnt pounce on Aikman or call him out when Aikman was off. Their friendship and mutual respect continue to this day.

I was happy as anyone when TO got here. I was as happy when he left. The things going on in the lockerroom may have been overstated but they were happening. Last year the storm was brewing, if he would have stayed it would have gotten ugly. Do you really want another year like last year.

Garcia doesnt want him back nor Romo, Witten, Mcnabb. In fact why dont you name a QB that wants him back. Or an OC and HC.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 9, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was pretty lame

We’re not the first, and not likely to be the last team to kick T.O. to the curb. Guy isn’t good for a QB. Sure, he’ll make plays, but he’s managed to attempt to get the rest of the locker room to side against the QB everywhere he’s been.

Please get over your T.O. mancrush. Thanks.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Jun 9, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

In TO's defense

He did start his career with Steve Young and Jerry Rice and nothing will ever compare to that.

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Jun 10, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leaders do not have to be born!

I studied and practice sport psychology and there are 3 ways one can become a leader. They can be born, they can learn it over time, or the interaction between the person and the situation can cause someone to be a leader.

It helps if you are born with certain innate qualities to help lead but it would be wrong to only say that leaders need to be born. That would eliminate many true leaders who took time or needed the right situation to become a leader.

by Dr. G on Jun 7, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess he didnt snarl at em enough.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 6, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Leader

First off, I would like to say that I don’t think yelling and snarling somehow equals leadership (otherwise Tony would be a great leader based off of that playoff game agianst the Giants). Leadership is forged when the leader has the mutual respect of his/her teammates and uses it to set a positive example with his/her work ethic and desire for all others to measure themselves against (Irvin was the best at this). And in my opinion, this team does not lack that type of guy. In fact, I think Dallas has a few guys who could be great leaders including Ware, Ratliff, and Witten. My under the radar guy though is Bradie James. He is a MLB (perfect position for a leader of a defense), has a very good work ethic (and a nice chip on his shoulder), and plays with a swagger that I think could define this defense by the end of the year. He also isn’t scared to speak his mind and definitely commands respect from his teammates.

Ultimately, I think this will be a leadership by comittee type of team, but I assure you it is there even though it may not all be as obvious as Michael’s leadership was.

There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 5, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Took the words right outta my mouth.

Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 7, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

An Attitude

I’ve had a lot worse things happen to me than a loss in a sporting event, that’s for sure. If this is the worst thing that ever happens to me, then I’ll have lived a pretty good life”…. is a helluva lot different than “I just want it so bad…I just want it really bad.”

The Cowboys have talent… what they need is an attitude.

by Montecito Tex on Jun 5, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions  

it's funny how that quote is taken out of context so much

Try listening to the entire interview and you’ll see Romo wants it as bad as anyone.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 5, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya know what Tex?

You beat on Romo probably a little more than necessary, but it makes up for the president of the Romo fan club that is on this blog posting all of the time.

IMO Romo can make the throws that a QB needs to make. Physically I am not concerned about Romo. When he has a bad play I wonder how long is it going to take him to recover.

Every QB can make a good play and run off the field giving everybody high fives. What bothers me about Romo (or anybody) is the reaction to bad plays. I hate the head down thing when you screw up. Be a man and walk off the field with your head up.

Watch this 30 second video/pics from Youtube about Romo with the volume off!!! The last 10 seconds are what bother me about Romo. Dude you’re the QB act like a leader. Feel bad all you want but act like a leader.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t09nwnsPJ9M&NR=1

Remember when Kitna called #56 lost (B James) Detroit came in to Texas and beat the Boys. I don’t like that he pointed out a player on a different team for being bad, but I do like that the guy has balls.

by christmasisdraftday on Jun 6, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!!

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 7, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

and the opposite would be Romophobics!

Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 7, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

so the one guy

you point to as an example of what Romo should be… is Jon Kitna? The guy who has never won anything in his entire career? Are you serious?

by DoomsdayD75 on Jun 7, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

doomsday

So, any team that hasn’t won the super bowl (“never won anything in his entire career”) doesn’t have a leader based on your comment?

Kitna was leader enough to come into Texas stadium with the lowly Lions and beat the Boys.

So, ya, I am serious!

by christmasisdraftday on Jun 7, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, he meant Kitna literally hasn't won anything. Ever.

He was 8-7 as a starter the year the Seahawks won the division title. But the next year he played so sorry in the season opener QB guru Holmgren gave him the hook for…..drum roll, please……… Brock Huard.

So Kitna beat the mighty Cowboys (actually, they were only 9-7 but we’ll call them mighty for the sake of this discussion) with a sorry no-count 3-13 Lions team? Well, then I guess Heath Shuler must have been one hell of a leader to sweep the ‘95 Super Bowl XXX Champion Cowboys with a 4-12 Redskins team. Actually, Heath did find his true calling as a politician so I guess he’s a good leader afterall unfortunately great leadership doesn’t always trump mediocre quarterbacking skills.

by MadMick on Jun 8, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Lets not make Kitna into William Wallace.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 8, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

madmick

so what are you saying, he (Kitna) has won as many division titles as Romo? As far as I know you are correct.

Brock Huard won 6 games for the seahawks that season so it looks like guru Holmgren made a mistake.

by christmasisdraftday on Jun 8, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kitna has made one playoff appearance (or one less than Romo) in seven seasons as a starter.

What’s your point? Like I said, he was 8-7 in his spectacular season leading the Seahawks to the division title.

And……..

Actually, Kitna and Huard rotated throughout that season but Kitna did contribute 18 TD/26 turnovers to the Seahawks’ 6-10 effort that season. Huard only ended up attempting 100 passes. Anyhow, if Kitna had eight more turnovers than TD passes Holmgren’s only real mistake was not having a better backup than Huard.

I don’t know how you gain access to see Kitna’s hidden greatness; maybe you have to be his great aunt-tee.

by MadMick on Jun 8, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

madmick

I think you’re just not getting the point of the post(s). It not who has the better ability(Romo). It’s who is/are the guy(s) that have some leadership.

Watch the youtube video clip below. Is this a leader? Stop it at 23 seconds or so and just look at it for a few seconds. The guy is not injured.

Ya, he made a mistake. It happens. Walk off the field like a man. Don’t sit there and cry. His teammates see him sitting on the field with his head in his lap. Do you think his teammates are thinking there is our leader out there crying on the field? How a person acts and reacts to his teammates and the situation reveal who is and isn’t a leader to me. Call me misinformed if you want but I don’t see this guy as a leader. He (Romo) can play, but MBIII, Witten, or Columbo look to have better leadership ability to me when they are on the field.

by christmasisdraftday on Jun 9, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

You say Romo is a guy who can play but can't lead worth a flying handshake.

Fine. I’m not even disputing that. On the flipside, though…..

I say Kitna is old man who (for whatever super fantastic leadership skills he may possess) has always been a marginal player. I know some Lions fans and they said he flat out sucks. I think Lions fans would know what horrible looks like.

By the way, thanks for the history lesson on the botched hold. I wasn’t aware of that. How could I have missed it?
Now, maybe you can find a youtube reel of Kitna’s leadership skills. Leader is in the eye of the beholder. I’m sure plenty will tell you Eli is a great leader now that he’s got a ring, but the fact is he’s still the same sad turtle sourpuss he’s always been in the huddle.

You’re one of those guys who says this team absolutely can’t win with Romo no matter what and literally anybody is a better alternative. I say good luck with all that but that if Romo was to go down, you’d be sticking and stabbing your Jon Kitna voodoo doll even harder after a handful of games with him at the helm.

by MadMick on Jun 9, 2009 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

madmick

What, did someone pee in your cereal?

Leadership skills. I never saw a highlight (lowlight) of Kitna sitting on the field crying last year. Seems like he would of had enough reasons to. Maybe you can post one for me.

Maybe that the Kitna had the misfortune to play on some of the only teams worse than the Boys over the last decade has caused you to confuse wins/losses with leadership. After all Kitna had the great GM Matt Millen. Even I will admit GM Jerry is better than Millen.

I watched a clip from bspn yesterday that said Detroit had the worst run defense in the league last year and that their defense gave up the most points of any team. Lets see, the other team can control the ball with their run game and Kinta is going to have to throw under pressure to try and catch up. I only say under pressure because Stephen Peterman the same one cut by the Boys in place of Proctor has a long term contract with Detroit. With protection like that how can Kitna not have hall of fame numbers?

If you want to think Romo is the great leader go ahead. I don’t.

Can the Boys win with Romo? I hope so!

As for the history lesson as you called it. The screwed up hold wasn’t the point of the post (I guessed you missed it), it was the behavior after the mistake that reveals leadership potential or lack there of.

There is always hope. She-li isn’t a leader in my mind either, and the giants won it all. Lets hope the Boys defense can come close to the pressure the giants did during their super bowl season cause I think Romo plays better than E Manning.

by christmasisdraftday on Jun 10, 2009 5:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just one more thing.

Last year, you could probably make the case that Kerry Collins season could be considered a successful one as a veteran leader (who had been to a SB) much moreso than a great one as a passer.

And unlike the ‘07 Cowboys who suffered a December swoon, that Titans team absolutely pistol-whipped the eventual Super Bowl Champ Steelers for homefield advantage in Week 16. They were rolling, Wyatt. Rolling. So how is it they couldn’t manage to win a single playoff game either? Even with veteran leadership at the QB position? Maybe veteran leadership doesn’t guarantee you anything at all either.

by MadMick on Jun 10, 2009 5:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Madmick

I think we’re just looking at this topic differently.

I think a team can loose a game and still have good leaders.

IMO leaders just help the other players around them realize their potential. Whether its advice on how to play, or a pat on the back, or a kick in the pants.

I would like to think that in the pic that Romo was sitting on the field, and A Johnson came over to Romo he might have said something like: it’s over, forget about it and get ready for when we get the ball back.

I like watching Romo. I just don’t think leadership when I watch him. It’s just my opinion. If you don’t agree that’s ok.
I don’t come on here to make an enemy or a friend, just to talk Cowboys.

by christmasisdraftday on Jun 10, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

No problemo.

Like I said earlier I don’t get into the topic of leadership that in-depth too much. That doesn’t mean I don’t get what people are talking about when they make certain points regarding leadership and its importance to a team.

It’s pretty plain to see Romo just isn’t a fiery vocal leader; obviously the same goes for Ware. One thing I do think about leaders is something Carl always points out: if you’re not a naturally fiery guy, you just suddenly don’t become one without coming off as phony and artificial.

Kitna could very well be more of a natural leader than Romo if you want to get into it that deep or if you place that much importance upon it. I never really argued that.
But in no way, shape or form is Kitna a better option at QB than Romo unless you simply think Romo’s too much of a headcase to not trip over his own two feet at the most crucial moments.

Even if that was the case, I don’t think this team is enough of a brutish juggernaut like the Ravens that Kitna could drive the bus for a game or two in the playoffs.

by MadMick on Jun 10, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

How can you even post that garbage?

Ever think that Romo was just disappointed in that play? Wouldn’t you be? And did you watch the rest of the game when he fought back to nearly make a comeback. That wasn’t even his team then, it was Bledsoe’s.

Rubbish.

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 9, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn Aaron

Am I seeing you get worked up a bit? Amazing!

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 9, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew I shouldn't have clicked on that link.


To much coffee got me all snarly…lol!

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 9, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaron

Garbage / Rubbish?

I don’t believe I have insulted anybody else when they have posted. As a Front Page blogger whose comments reflect on the boss (Grizz) I would think you would avoid being overly negative or insulting. If you don’t agree with what I post just say so.

Of course Romo was disappointed with the play!!! That was my point!!! How a person reacts to disappointment or adversity is part of what makes a leader to me.

I can not imagine J Montana or R Staubach sitting on the field like that. Your teammates see it.

Corner backs get beat for touchdowns all the time. They don’t sit on the field and pout. It was a bad play, so just walk off the field and think about being ready the next time you’re on the field.

by christmasisdraftday on Jun 10, 2009 5:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

He didn't insult you.

He just said the material was garbage.

All I have for your whole “analysis” is this…. Romo is better than Kitna.

I don’t care if he got pissed off because one year he bobbled a snap and felt like total piece of crap. Eli Manning would have done the EXACT same thing. Hell he looks like someone just slapped him in the face when he makes an incompletion.

But if you honestly think Kitna would give Dallas a better chance to win, then you’re crazy. Leadership or whatever, that’s all subjective anyways.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 10, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

That link was garbage.

As a Cowboy fan, how can you even post that?—if you are a Cowboy fan. If you are not, then I see why you would. To me, posting a video of Romo sitting on the ground w/ the annoying “they’re all gonna laugh at you” loop is 3 years outplayed, my friend.

What I would like to know is how many starting QBs still hold for field goals? Poor coach’s decision, imo. BTW, thanks for comparing Romo to Montana & Staubach. I’m sure he appreciates that.

And what, because I’m a blogger I have to thwart my opinions? This is the comments section where we all get to have fun. I never insulted you personally. I simply asked how you can post that garbage and that it was rubbish. Just because nobody else commented on the vid link doesn’t mean I couldn’t express my dissatisfaction with it. That would be something I would expect to find on a different team’s blog rather than a Cowboys one.

I thought I had diffused the situation by my beavis on coffee pic.

Again, even after that botched FG, Romo came back out and at least gave the team a chance for a hail mary. He didn’t pout too long. It was his first half year as a starter, his first major disappointment. Give the kid a break.

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 10, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aaron

“He didn’t pout too long” is what I am talking about.

Tex’s post was about leadership.

Can Romo play? I think he can. I just don’t see a leader in Romo. If you don’t agree with me thats fine.

by christmasisdraftday on Jun 10, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel you, xmas.

I want his leadership to reflect in his play as well. I just don’t see him calling out opposing defenders like Kitna did on Newman and Bradie. Who knows? Maybe all this hoopla will stack some chips on his shoulder so he can come out swinging with the rest of the team. This will be his 3rd full season as a starter, so we will get to see what he’s learned play into action. Can’t wait!

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 10, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

My problem with the entire leadership discussion...

is that it is so subjective.

What makes a great leader?

I mean I’m sure Tony has some leadership qualities, just because they don’t meet someones standards doesn’t mean anything.

Look at Jeff George, he was mean and got in peoples faces. Does that make him a great leader? Because it sure as hell didn’t make him any better of a football player.

Peyton Manning supposedly is this great leader, but he wasn’t good enough to lead a Tennessee team past Florida, when Tee Martin did the same thing the next year.

Plus… alot of leadership qualifications in football take place when we aren’t even looking.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 10, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff George etc

There is nothing worse than the “vocal leader” types who don’t play to the level of their yap. More often found further down the ladder than the pro level – check out men’s softball leagues.

by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 10, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Subjective, it is.

Funny how the biggest knock on the team is something so intangible.

The NFL ought to create a second combine that measures leadership capabilities, i.e. charisma, ability to say “no” to peer pressure, huddle performance, self-deprecation, self-esteem, Type-A, Type-B, ability to learn, ability to teach, mental endurance, maximum focus level at certain times of the day—that kind of stuff. he, he

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 10, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, some teams do...

Quite a few teams use a psychological test during the interviews during the combine.

Res firma mitescere nescit

by Fighter15 on Jun 11, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

of course Romo wasn't a leader back in 2006

He was green as grass and just learning how to play the position.

To expect leadership after only 10 starts is ridiculous IMO.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 10, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Romo

It’s got to be him. He doesn’t necessarily have to “snarl” but he is the leader of the team now whether he or anyone else wants it.

by connery on Jun 5, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

It doesn't "have to be him

And I don’t think it will ever be him. It’s not in his make-up (and for you romosexuals, I don’t mean eye liner). That’s OK with me, there’s nothing that says leadership has to come from the QB. There will be 52 other guys who can fill the void.

by StillHateTheGiants on Jun 8, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Terry

I think I look forward more to your replies than most people’s posts.

The older I get, the better I was.

by Far Rider on Jun 10, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 10, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marty B!

Just Kidding. I would like for it to be Romo, but it isn’t and won’t be. I think Bradie James has the necessary attitude, but lacks the star-power and cred to make it stick. If anyone has a chance of backing up the snarl it would have to be DWare or Witten. It would be great if we had a HC who could give the snarl. “The asthma field is over there!” Sweet!

by HutHut on Jun 5, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow! Actual football talk from Tex!

And it’s coherent! And what’s more? I agree with him!

by Mandmeisterx on Jun 5, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Romo

He plays the part of “cool guy” very well, but I think he was just deferring to a stronger personality in TO.

This year I think he will let more of the real Tony come out. He’s uber-competitive at everything he does, he just needs to give himself permission to be real. If he doesn’t step up and be the captain on the field, we will fail once again when it matters.

Show your emotions, Tony. The ’Boys will follow you.

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
-Winston Churchill

by HudBaby on Jun 5, 2009 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Romo will be a really strong leader this year

T.O. usurped that role from Tony in the past but now that the jerk is gone, he can assume that role that is rightfully his.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 6, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he showed some leadership last year...

Ever stop to consider that by holding his tongue Romo was showing leadership by putting the team first? Garcia and McNabb tried to show leadership by standing up to TO… how’d that work out?

TO does not respond well to any comments that he perceives to be negative. That would be defined as any statement that does not imply that TO is the greatest.

Trying to “lead” TO would have caused an immediate meltdown and anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves.

Romo did what he could to manage a difficult situation and that showed some leadership to me.

Garrett needs to get a clue!

by BulletBob on Jun 8, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good post! I hadnt heard it put that way but that makes perfect sense to me.

There was no backing down TO.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 8, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

True that.

Would this be equal to when Shaq was in L.A.? Hmmm…

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 8, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

please...save the drama for your mama.......Romo was/has been a fragile cupcake when it comes to taking the steer by the horns, displaying mental toughness, and a sense of owning the team...

get off damn TO excuses, so friggin lame…..“TO held him back” is the biggest JOKE I’ve ever heard in my life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROMO has NO EXCUSES anymore……The seasons of 20+ turnovers is UNACCEPTABLE

by My_2_Cents on Jun 9, 2009 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

mcnabb couldnt back him down. Who was completely established with 3 NFC championships and multiple Pro bowls.

Andy Reid couldnt back him down. I dont think TO was the main reason but he was becoming a problem. Health was the main reason.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 9, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

TO wasn't an excuse, he was a reality!!!

How many QBs has TO played with? How many QBs has TO had a problem with? I rest my case.

Romo was the only QB who “managed” his relationship with TO by being wise enough not to confront him when he blew routes, dropped passes, or made remarks about play calling.

TO is a great talent and he apparently got along well with some of the guys in the locer room. His problem has always been with authority. When he thinks the game plan and/or the execution of said game plan were not aimed at making him the focal point of the offense his attitude starts to fester with this “them against me” mindset which eventually boils over and divides the locker room.

Garrett needs to get a clue!

by BulletBob on Jun 9, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Seriously…T.O. DID hold Romo back, like he did with McNaab, Garcia, and like he’ll do with Trent Edwards. The dude eats QBs alive. It’s not “using T.O. as an excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !” it’s actually observing something that ACTUALLY HAPPENS everywhere T.O. goes. He does impede the progress of the QB. When you’re no longer allowed to look for the open man and FORCED to throw the ball at the prima donna WR, you aren’t allowed to fully progress as a QB. Just watch what he does to Trent Edwards after the first or second year. It’s almost a scientific fact, T.O. is a cancer. An overrated one at that.

I know, T.O. is dreamy, and silly and entertaining. You have to let go eventually, buddy.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Jun 9, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

That Kobe 'hard face' is the weakest thing I've ever seen.

It’s so un-natural it’s funny. He really thinks people are buyin that.
What a joke.

WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jun 5, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

+1000

Somebody had to say it.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Jun 5, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm no Laker fan

But it’s Kobe’s will that drives that team to win.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jun 6, 2009 4:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

But you’ve gotta admit that face is fake as hell. It’s just more of Kobe’s insecurity. The guy isn’t comfortable in his own skin. Hell, for the first 6-7 years of his career he tried to make his voice and mannerisms sound like Michael Jordan.

Kobe is one of the all time great basketball players, but he is mentally fragile.

WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jun 6, 2009 6:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 6, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe so

But his killer instinct is what we need. Fake faces notwithstanding, he does his job on the court. In the end, that’s what really counts. That’s why winners get leeway and pretenders have to answer questions about their off-the-field activities all offseason.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jun 6, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Im not so sure Kobe is a winner. He is certainly better player than anyone else so he wins but..

Since he threw Shaq under the bus I have lost all respect for him. Men F-up but you admit it, minimize damage, take your punishment and prove your better than that. Not him, Shaq is worse, he does it too. WTF?!

 Romo is a celebrity starlet divorcee chasing because he met a woman who was 2 years divorced but a married guy accussed of raping a woman is an ok morally upright ,high character guy who is your choice.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 6, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

you have to admit

that is one intense under-bite. If Romo had an under-bite that intense, we would have won 5 super bowls since he started!

by DoomsdayD75 on Jun 7, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its not the shoes, its the underbite.

For sale: Specialize mouth piece guaranteed to give one the intense look of a competitor and leader. Look known to scare opponents into choking. FDA warning, may cause extremely dumb look for marginal player causing opponents to laugh. If not worn as instructed dumb look could last forever making future mating rituals imposible. Wearer assumes risk. Patent pending.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 8, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought I was the only one

That sound and look like Michael Jordan routine has always driven me nuts. I agree with Carl, Kobe is the best player on the planet but he is also the all time biggest poser. He and A-Rod must have gone to the same school.

by StillHateTheGiants on Jun 8, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

so true

Kobe and A-Rod are just alike.

WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jun 8, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

The "rah rah" type of leader is overrated

and unnecessary. These guys are professionals, and shouldn’t need some guy to get in their faces and what have you. They should be motivated enough as it is.

And Kobe didn’t just happen to “will” his team to a win last night. Orlando straight up choked…

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Jun 5, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree

True leaders lead by example not by snarling or yelling at teammates, I think that’s the biggest misperception in all of sports.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 6, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who has the snarl on the Patriots? Steelers? Eagles?

I’d rather see who has the “Let’s get down to business it’s crunch time” face when it matters.

by Benthere on Jun 5, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree with your premise

However, the Steelers have a few guys that “regulate”—Farrior and Foote come to mind. Polamolu isn’t a big rah rah guy, but he balances the emotion with focused energy.

Bradie James has the demeaner and credibility as does Ratliff. We have enough “silent leaders” in Ware and Newman. For the D to realize their potential, BJ and Rat need to push their bros.

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
-Winston Churchill

by HudBaby on Jun 5, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

And thats all I'm lookin for at the end of the day.

I don’t need rah-rah. I want guys who tell the others when its time to kick in the afterburners. I guess I want guys who look like they care about winning. Thats all.

by Benthere on Jun 6, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

YOU ARE JOKING

It’s Brady…just like for us it was Aikman.

Truth is, the last person in our organization to have it was Sparano.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Jun 6, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've always heard...

that Bradie James and Keith Davis have been leaders.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 6, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought about this some more

Carrot might be one to bring the snarl to gameday this year. Despite his less-than-stellar gameplanning last year, he had the right look about him. Maybe he’s the one that should be asking for accountability when the team needs a kick in the pants.

I actually think it would benefit Wade Phillips also because he is so laid back. More yin to his yang, so to speak.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jun 6, 2009 5:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Jason Garrett

Garrett has the intellect, the passion, and the snarl… can Wade be demoted to Defensive Coordinator now?

by Montecito Tex on Jun 6, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I think Garrett does have it.

Can the Cowboys just have 2 HCs w/ one having offensive playcalling duties and the other having defensive? I know this seems rather unorthodox, but there could be something to this kind of organization.

Is it too early to ask what round I should aim for Felix in my fantasy football league?

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 7, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

But don't they already have that

I guess I’ll get slammed for this, but isn’t wade the HC in name only?

"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach

by dave33 on Jun 8, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dunno. Whatever the case, both guys seem to work really well together.

I don’t see either of them getting butthurt over labels or anything. I think just trying to regain respect for the team’s direction is their focus right now.

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 8, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Garrett? Snarl?

First, I want to say great post Tex.

But Garrett is not a leader. We heard about Romo’s practice habits last season. A serious OC won’t let their QB have such a lax approach to the game.

by JimmyJohnson on Jun 8, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ummmm Charles Haley was a leader? And the subject of followers.

He wasn’t the leader of the defense. He brought some passion out to the field, but its not like people saw him and were like lets follow this guy… because he was a nutcase. People liked his production but he wasn’t a guy that was particularly liked throughout the locker room.

I think also that it is easier to be a leader if you have people more willing to follow. There are a ton of people on here that say, “Well Romo can’t do it.” but how do you lead someone that everytime you step into the huddle, you feel like you don’t have any control over.

It’s easy to sit here behind a computer and say “well why don’t they just do this and that” but from a first hand experience I know that it is almost impossible to become a leader of anyone that isn’t truely commited to the mission at task.

The 90’s Cowboys were so unique that they had leadership at the most crucial levels and different types of leadership. You had a headcoach that demanded perfection, a QB that early on showed that he was tough, and WR(which is really strange) that lead by his desire to win.

We, as Cowboys fans, are spoiled. In all honesty the only other team that I think might have that kind of chemistry are the New England teams of the 2000’s.

Plus accountability is a huge issue. In the 90’s if you weren’t a superstar, you knew that your job was always on the line. Playing for a job and to retain your paycheck makes people hungrier as well, it makes it where you can’t just go through the motions.

Oh and leadership in football isn’t really comparitive to basketball IMO.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 6, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

LOL!

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 7, 2009 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let's face it

the Cowboys are weaker than a person insisting on using their name in 3rd person, right?

by sublimezg on Jun 6, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Only one man can pull the 3rd off...

and that is the Rock. Tex is not the Rock.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 6, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Unfortunatly Andrei has a weak chin. I still like his style though.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 8, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

know your role.....

…and shut your damn mouth !!!! I agree..he’s not the rock……maybe the “crock” ? Ha!

"Let me tell you sumthin' son ! an ass whippin' hurts no matter what kinda shape your in ! " Stone Cold Steve Austin

by jerryw on Jun 6, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Excellent Post Tex!

There is indeed a huge Leadership void at the Head Coach and Quarterback spots. Hopefully we will get some much-needed Leadership from one of the atypical positions.

I for one am excited to see Kitna quarterbacking this squad. I think our chances for a deep playoff run are much higher with Kitna at the controls than the immature, indifferent gunslinger Romo.

by Cowboy Louie on Jun 6, 2009 7:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Pump your brakes

I like Kitna but damn, the dude throws as many picks as touchdowns. Slow down there Cowboy.

WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jun 6, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus, Kitna seems to have a problem with fumbling snaps under center

Our D would have to be 06 Bears or 08 Steelers good to take us to the promised land with Kitna starting at QB. Such talk is absurd.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Jun 6, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know right...

The SAVIOR Jon Kitna.

Have any of these people looked at Kitna’s stats or seen how many deep playoff runs he’s been on?

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 7, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

thats why Detroit got rid of him

and 95% of NFL teams would give their first born to have Romo on their team.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 7, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kitna over Romo?

Dude, are you serious? I believe he is a definite upgrade over brad johnson, but to come in and be the starter. Not a chance. Even if Romo struggles, Kitna is still on the bench. The only way Kitna sees the field is if the worst happens. I do like the pickup to backup Romo and he may help Romo with RW. But that is it.

by Boyz4Life on Jun 8, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Only way Kitna ever sees the filed is if Romo gets hurt, and I mean the only way.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 8, 2009 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

or a blowout

like romo and the texans 2006

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Jun 8, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

Romo did come end at the end of the game.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 8, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was Romo's first offical playing time

I was at that game and I got a “Romo” chant going in the 4th before Parcells put him in.

He then proceeded to hit Sam Hurd for 40 yards for his first pass and hit T.O. later for a TD at the goal line.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 8, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

And so the man crush...

officially began. Awww memories.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 8, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!!

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 8, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh I liked Romo well before that game

I was advocating that he replace Bledsoe before the season even started.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 8, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 8, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

because I'm a fan of a professional athlete?

you sure do get creeped out easy.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 9, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are a little more than a fan.

I’m a Romo fan.

You defend him like it’s a political stance.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 9, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

ROFL!!

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 9, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

because he gets unfairly bashed

I’m a fan who has a stronger opinion than most, but just a fan none the less.

Believe me, if fans bashed Witten like that, I’d defend him the same way.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 9, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I bought a Romo jersey the day he took over the reigns from Bledsoe.

You crack me up Terry. If only there was more balance to the bashing that takes place on our QB. Sometimes I wonder what being a fan truly is: criticizing our players when they’ve put together a string of winning seasons, or supporting them to do their best.

I need to start trolling the Green Bay site to see if the same goes on against A. Rodgers.

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 9, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey!

I totally agree that he gets unfairly bashed about most things, but I do think that you have to objectively look at things sometimes.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 9, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

and I do

I never once said he doesn’t need to improve his game, obviously he does. I’d love to see him make better decisions at times, but at the same time I realize that is who he is as a player and I accept his flaws.

The Romo bashers don’t or won’t accept it and thats the difference.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 9, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't seem

to accept flaws from the o-line should they miss a block. Why the double standard?

by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 9, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

no double standard

I realize the ol had injuries last year, hopefully they’ll be healthier this season.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 9, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I cuss out my TV as much as any guy when Romo drops the ball or throws a wounded duck.

Because this team is much more closer to success since he’s come aboard, I think all our expectations are still relatively high—at least in some degree because we do have talent at QB for the first time in 4ever.

I do admit to buying his jersey right off the bat, but Romo’s still gotta rid himself of his growing pains along w/the rest of the team.

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 9, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

True enough.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 9, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really......

I just don’t know too many men that would call themselves “Romosexuals” if you know what I mean. Don’t get me wrong, I know some girls were calling themselves that a couple of years when they thought he was hot stuff but know even they don’t call themselves that anymore-LOL

by texstar on Jun 10, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's was a joke tex, I thought you had a sense of humor

If one can’t make fun of himself, then they have serious problems

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 10, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

glad you clarified yourself Terry......

sorry for not understanding your joke, but it’s hard to tell sometimes with you .LOL

by texstar on Jun 10, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

FYI, I don't troll Terry......

you just don’t see any of my other comments. I used to post quite a bit on here but I have been busy with my business. Unfortunately, I have to make money to survive. Are you trying to be funny with your comment or are you putting me down because it kinda sounds that way.

by texstar on Jun 11, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

50/50?

Wasn’t insulting anybody, but it sure does seem like you’ve got it out for ol’ Terry, here. Correcting the dude’s grammar(I normally only do that when I’m attempting to make someone feel stupid), questioning just how far his Romo-fandom goes, generally pestering the dude. Your “lol Terry u liek totally luv Romoz!1-LOL” to productive post ratio is like 3/1. Something’s gotta’ give.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Jun 11, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, I haven't been posting to a lot

of his comments lately because I’m pretty tired of the debate because it’s futile. If you think my comments are annoying, I guess you didn’t see all the other guys comments on the main thread yesterday. BTW, Terry and I agree on some other issues like Ellis and things. All you are harping on is my annoyance with him on the infatuation with Romo. If you’ll get the fact straight, instead of just focusing on this one issue, you’ll see that Terry and I actually agree on some other things.

by texstar on Jun 11, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

that is true

and I don’t mind people bashing me, I have fairly thick skin.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 11, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW, Terry.....

I was teasing you when I corrected you grammatically, that’s why I put LOL at the end. I wasn’t trying to put you down, like Red Scare was insinuating. You and I agree on a lot of the old time Cowboys and I respect your opinion. I’m not picking on you. Are we cool?

by texstar on Jun 11, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey, I've always been cool

I rarely take posts as insulting because it’s difficult to detect a writer’s tone and true feeling in print.

Unless you’re calling me a nut job like Cowboy Louie did, I’m not going to get insulted by your posts.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 11, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say cooooool

haha

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 11, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya know you can't say

LOL or haha right? Just joiking

by texstar on Jun 11, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

YOU might can't...

But I can. : )

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 11, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's funny.....

changing subject here, but do you think it’s funny that before the last finals game, all the media guys were talking about incredible Kobe is. Now they are saying that he was too aggressive in the second half, therefore, they lost the game. It’s funny how these media guys turn on you in a second.

by texstar on Jun 11, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMFAO

I was wondering…

Hooah.

by .FRoST.USAF on Jun 9, 2009 3:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't see anything about Kitna being a starter

The post was about having leadership qualities. Unless I missed it, I didn’t see Tex advocating that Kitna should be the starter.

by StillHateTheGiants on Jun 8, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like the fact that they've been spotted at dinner together w/Wade Wilson too.

That means they are all picking each others’ brains about everything that QBs talk about. Most companies call that team-building.

"Grow where you are planted."

by Aaron Novinger on Jun 8, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

That is absurd

There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 7, 2009 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, like Kitna makes better decisions

and protects the ball better than Romo, obviously Louie you never watched Kitna play, thats for sure.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 7, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet

you were one of the guys who said we would be better off with Brad Johnson weren’t you? Thought he would protect the ball better?

I guess the grass really is always greener. sigh.

by DoomsdayD75 on Jun 7, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.Let's review, folks.

So a 37-year old journeyman who himself has never won a playoff game gives the Cowboys the best chance of a deep playoff run? Because he can “manage the game” better? If you really think that, you don’t know your stuff all that well, good sir.

by MadMick on Jun 8, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Valid question, Tex

I don’t agree that being a leader has to mean grabbing people by the scruff – who is going to grab Leonard Davis by the scruff and intimidate him into performing better?

I think Romo can be the leader. I also think his off field ‘crimes’ are misdemeanors and not felonies. His statement after the Philly debacle angered some people, but I took it differently. Everybody handles stress, grief, disappointment , tragedy in their own way. I took Romo’s comments as him trying to pull himself up off the carpet after a beat down, put things in perspective and be ready for the inevitable rematch. Others felt he was showing indifference. Who’s right? I think I am. Personally, I think Romo is ready to take the role this season. It’s his team now, Jerry said so.

From what I saw of Tashard Choice, he’s a natural leader and could emerge if given an opportunity. Maybe D. Ware or Brooking, maybe even Ken Hamlin or Brady James on D.

You don’t just put on the leader hat or you don’t say, “Now I’m the leader”, and have people follow. Some people are born leaders, some grow into it and they have to be given an opportunity. You can’t force people to follow unless you’re Kim Jong IL.

I’m betting on Romo’s emergence this year.

"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams

by Jim Vance on Jun 6, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Wholeheartly agree with the second paragraph. I thought he was trying to convince himself.

I tell you another thing that bothers me about that last game. The Romo quit issue. If you stay in the game with a broken rib,(extremely painful) taking that kind of a beating, How exactly did you quit? We just got whupped. It happens.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 7, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"We'll see." --Bill Parcells

by Uncle Angus on Jun 8, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I predict...

that going into December, Kitna will be the starting quarterback.

by El Jofre on Jun 7, 2009 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

I dont know what "chutzpah" means

but I’m officially adding it to my vocabulary after reading this post.

WELCOME HOME SEVEN!!

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jun 7, 2009 8:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Haha

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 7, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Leonard Davis in Another...

Leonard Davis should be the baddest dude in the NFL… at least the undisputed leader of the Cowboys offensive line. But no, like Marion and Demarcus, he goes about his business quietly, letting seasons go bye without a fight. Imagine if Davis flashed or played with a win-at-all-cost mean streak?

by Montecito Tex on Jun 7, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Columbo

Columbo has that mean streak – I wish it would rub off on the other o-linemen!

by Dr. G on Jun 7, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ridiculous

To say that is absolutely ridiculous. You think that Marion doesn’t want to win? I mean have you ever seen him run the ball? He works his ass off and does whatever it takes to get that next yard. And Demarcus? You simply don’t get to his level of play without an extreme dedication to getting better so as to help your team win. If you think that they put up no fight then you might want to get your head examined.

Like Liam Neeson said in Taken, “[you] think because we are tolerant that we are weak and helpless. Your arrogance offends me.” In other words, just because players like Demarcus and Marion don’t lose their minds after a loss doesn’t mean they weren’t giving it everything they had.

There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 8, 2009 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

TO had that snarl

But the media protrayed it be that he was complaining about not getting the ball. I remember last season someone fumbled in the back field, Gurode was standing right in front of it with his hands on his hips for maybe 3/4 of second. The other team scooped up an easy ball. TO was seen yelling at Gurode in the sideline, but the media later showed that clip as proof of how he’s “divisive force.”

by ym on Jun 7, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah he had that snarl

But most of the time he was pissed because he wasn’t getting the ball. Sometimes I believe he got a bad rap trying to fire guys up, but that only happens because he is always complaining about something or calling out guys in the media. So the media waits, and waits, and waits for him to do ANYTHING that looks like he is pissed. I don’t know if anyone has heard that TO has a reputation! It follows him everywhere, and it doesn’t help that he never admits to any wrong doing. He can keep his snarl in BUF for all I care!

by Boyz4Life on Jun 8, 2009 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Leaders and potential leaders can lose their credibility.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 8, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

That snarl worked real well last year didn’t it? Just further proof that yelling and screaming doesn’t equal leadership.

There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 8, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

With all due respect, sir...

in my opinion, that “snarl” thing is a crock of $#!+.

Just ask this famous coach what he thinks about it (you’ll have to wait til U get to #2).

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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by silverblue5 on Jun 7, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions  

ROFL

Bob Knight on sportswriters: “I’m tryin’ to help you young guys, in this profession you’ve chosen… it’s one or two steps above prostitution”

Hooah.

by .FRoST.USAF on Jun 7, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

My fave is #1

“When my time on earth is gone and my activities here are past… I want they bury me upside down and my critics can kiss my ass!”

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Jun 8, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 8, 2009 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with a previous poster

that Tashard Choice could fill a leadership role, esp. if he sees quality playing time.

Otherwise, while I do believe that “leadership,” especially that of the “snarling” kind, is hard to define, I definitely do not see it in our head coach or quarterback. I hope I am wrong with the latter.

by DavidH22 on Jun 7, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

How does this post have 115 responses

Since the ball is already rolling here…

That “snarl” face that Kobe displayed the other night is a face that he invented for these playoffs— he’s never made that particular expression before in his career. And I can pretty much guarantee you that he stood in front of the mirror for hours perfecting it. To me, Kobe has always the ultimate fake, polished, manufactured player who thinks only about how he will be perceived. Furthermore, he has been shown many times, both in media quotes and in behind the scenes videos, to sell out and criticize his teammates, to call out his coach (who happens to have 9 championship rings), and to generally conduct himself in a way that I don’t think befits a team leader. And this leaving out all of the legal troubles.

More than ARod even, Kobe’s personality has always rubbed me the wrong way, and I would not want his footbal equivalent on the Cowboys.

I am of the opinion that intangibles are a bit overrated, and that injuries hurt us more last year than anything else, including a divided locker room. But if the motto this year is “Team First,” then Kobe Bryant is hardly your ideal mascot.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Jun 8, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions  

+1000

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

by squidlo97 on Jun 8, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jun 9, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

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