Notes on Today's Cowboys OTA
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 9, 2009 6:03 PM CDT
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Defense wins. Offense loses. That was the theme of today's organized team activity. The passing game looked, as Roy Williams said, "sloppy". There were some center-quarterback exchange problems and blown assignments on the O-line.
On the other end of the offense's miscues, the defensive backs came up big--particularly Courtney Brown and Alan Ball. Brown showed his cornerback skills by swatting away a couple of passes. Ball, who subbed in for Ken Hamlin (personal business) as the 1st-team free safety, picked off a Jon Kitna pass and provided the defense with some nice center-fielding skills.
Make the jump for today's practice observations from Tim MacMahon, Josh Ellis, and Matt Mosely.
*We got a glimpse of the Marion Barber/Felix Jones I formation, something the Cowboys tinkered with last summer but rarely used during the regular season. Barber got a play-fake on a dive behind the right guard, then Tony Romo flicked a counter pitch to Jones, who scooted around the left end.
*When the offense was working against air, TE Martellus Bennett dropped a pass. That prompted Jason Witten to holler, "C'mon now!" in an encouraging tone. Bennett didn't drop another ball all practice. He made a tough, twisting catch on an out while barely getting both feet in bounds during team drills.
*Witten isn't perfect, either. He committed a false start, prompting Jason Garrett to replace him for a play, something that has been happening on a regular basis with offensive players who jump. But RT Marc Colombo wasn't having any of it, shoving Robert Brewster out of the way when the rookie tried to replace Colombo after a false start. There appeared to be an issue with Romo's cadence, as Kitna replaced him for a couple of snaps with the starters.
* Last week it was Crayton, but this week Tashard Choice was taking the snaps in the 'Razorback' offense, with Felix Jones coming in motion. The Cowboys split Tony Romo out wide, and had him circle behind the play as if to fake a reverse. The Cowboys showed the formation maybe three times.
* Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick continued to split first-team reps.
* Roy Williams had a nice catch on a route over the middle, sticking up one hand to knock the ball into his chest and corralling it in the open field.
* With center-quarterback exchanges a problem for much of the day, those two positions stayed after practice for extra work, and Wade Phillips said they would work on snapping more before OTAs conclude Wednesday.
Let me be as diplomatic as possible here: The offense was atrocious during Tuesday's session. Tony Romo barely had time to get off a pass, and when he did, the ball was dropped by wide receivers. I guess we should expect some of this when a free-agent rookie named Kevin Ogletree is the No. 3 receiver. But still, there are far too many mistakes.
Former first-round pick Bobby Carpenter received shouts of praise from linebackers coach Reggie Herring when he made a nice recovery on a naked bootleg play on which Romo was trying to hit Martellus Bennett.
Tight end Martellus Bennett is drawing rave reviews from my guys in the scouting community. It's almost impossible for safeties and linebackers to cover him. And he's starting to use his size to his advantage. It's pretty startling to see a 265-pound guy come out of break and absolutely lose a safety.
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Offseason Dedication
What the Cowboys QB looks like now (6/4/09) after a dedicated off-season of weight training and conditioning hitting Hollywood nightclubs, divorced actresses and buffets. Jerry should never have given him that contract.
by Montecito Tex on Jun 9, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What part of...
“Romo barely had time to get off a pass” or “the O-line blew assignments” or the wide receivers dropped passes didn’t you understand???
by Boundforbeach on Jun 9, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defense
See, that is what I took away from it. I liked how good our defense sounded because at this time of the year, a good defense should be dominating the OTA offense.
There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 9, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And meanwhile...
… Ben Roethlisberger deserves your love…
….
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Jun 9, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think maybe MT got dropped on his head as a baby
daily
by sublimezg on Jun 9, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not dropped
Thrown.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Jun 9, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure don't blame his mother
I feel like throwing him on his head now.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
by DC_fan on Jun 10, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
why isn’t his chin strap buckled and why isn’t he throwing balls through a tire swing, for criminey’s sake? How DARE he walk somewhere not in uniform, and not be walking to practice, or from practice, or walking during practice, or walking near practice. Disgraceful. I happen to know that Staubach buckled that chin strap and was in full pads when he enjoyed “maritals,” and, I know that he never enjoyed “maritals” until AFTER he was in the HOF, just to be safe.
Is that so much to ask?
by Joey2zs on Jun 9, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Jun 9, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny, but I think Staubach had some success in the post-season
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Jun 10, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and if you think he looks fat, you're blind
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 9, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that a hoodie?
If so, it’s pretty sweet. If anyone knows where I can get one, clue me in.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jun 10, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Open Competition
The starting quarterback position for the 2009 Dallas Cowboys should be an open competition. May the best man win.
by Cowboy Louie on Jun 9, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You've gotta be kidding me
How embarrassing would it be for us as a franchise if ESPN ran a story saying, “The Dallas Cowboys have announced that Tony Romo will be in open competition this preseason with Jon Kitna and rookie McGee for the starting quarterback job.”
We’re America’s Team, we’re not some confused, doddering organization like the Raiders or the Jaguars. Let’s have some pride here.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Jun 9, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's either kidding or nuts
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 9, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like last time
Absolutely absurd if you think anyone on this team can hold a candle to Tony.
There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 9, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like
how these sessions are sounding. They all seem to be working hard, practicing like it’s a game. The coaches too are apparently taking a serious tone about execution. I like it. Oh, and Tex, Romo isn’t wearing a tux but he also isn’t lugging around a belly either.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Jun 9, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A Belly and an extra Chin
Looks like a belly, a second chin, and an extra 25 pounds to Tex. If Romo could have learned one thing from his three years with Terrell, it should have been the importance of conditioning… especially as the quarterback enters his 30s. The definition of sloppy, and pear-shaped quarterback.
by Montecito Tex on Jun 9, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tex, what pic are you looking at??
The one of romo or of ben r??
The only thing i notice about romo’s chin is maybe he needs to shave.
That extra flab i see on his face is actually his tongue, not a 2nd chin. Put away the cheap apple brandy (which tells me alot BTW).
by THEjarhead on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
B.S.
Interesting to me that you think Romo will somehow have problems with conditioning when he has never had that problem before. He will be fine. People like you need to find another problem to have. Something tells me you didn’t even bother watching when guys like Hutchinson quarterbacked the Dallas Cowboys.
There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 9, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha!
Then you don’t know Tex. He had some very clear, definite opinions about a particular Michigan QB/3rd baseman who would stroll into Canton.
by Joey2zs on Jun 9, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henson
Being a Michigan fan, if he had never stopped playing football he could have been a great NFL QB.
There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 10, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I don't expect anything from the
Camp bodies we brought in for Ratliff’s breather body.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Jun 10, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like I said, you're not only a Romo hater, but blind as a bat
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 9, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exciting to hear the praise for Bennett. He could really add a whole new dimension.
I guess my suggestion for trying Choice with Felix in the wild cat was heard. Probably not, its just the obvious choice(no pun intended)
I saw that samepicture back in March.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
by squidlo97 on Jun 9, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like Witten had an effect on Bennett
What I’ve been saying since last December is still scaring the hell out of me. The offensive line needs to get their $#!t together. I like Columbo’s fire, but it has to be a controlled burn.
Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein.
Joe ThEEsman
by SB Six on Jun 9, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
The defense will be good.
I’m not even concerned about the skill positions (including quarterback), but
the OL scares me.
by connery on Jun 9, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For real????
It’s OTA’s for crying out load. It’s not the week prior to the start of regular season. The guys always have a few extra pounds this time of year (unless you are T.O. or Jerry Rice) and are out of sinc. In addition, the offense almost always looks worse than the defense in the begining of these things…the same with every team. Not too mention, they arre trying new things here, trying to get away of the “vanilla offense” of last year.
Let me ask you this, would you rather them look good right now because they are running things they are familiar with, or would you rather them look shaky right now because of trying to do different and better things than last year?
Patience…it will all come together when it is supposed to.
I love me some T.O....I ain't skeerd!!!!!
by airtyme on Jun 9, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes. For Real. I can turn your whole argument around on you.
Your own words were they ran a vanilla offense last year. That, and the fact that it’s OTA’s are the only things I agree with you on. A “vanilla offense” should have been when the o-line had an easy time of it, you’d think. Simple offense makes for simple blocking schemes. Yet, most of the offensive problems last year can be traced to the O-line. Romo’s fumbles from getting hit repeatedly. Romo’s injuries. His hurried throws. McBriar’s injury. Interceptions created by pressure, the sacks. Opposing players in the backfield disrupting the offense. These things create the flow of the game. We had enough of those games that it created the flow of the season. What did we do in the off-season to address the offensive line? Have you heard any of the lineman take responsibility for their woes? I’ve been listening, and I haven’t heard it. I’d like to know what games you were watching last year? This offensive line has a history.
Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein.
Joe ThEEsman
by SB Six on Jun 9, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romo looks soft
Many of you may already know that folks are being allowed to watch these OTAs (local high school) from a distance on the knoll, but I can tell you that Romo looks just awful. Even the guy riding around in the golf cart has been wincing. I think folks are kinda afraid to open up this can of worms, but he just looks sloppy and the ball is simply not coming out of his hands as well as it has in the past – I really think he may have lost a bit from last year; hopefully, he’s just rusty from not working out and will get his swagger (and spiral) back. He’d better get his arse in gear or all these other positive developments will be for naught – Tony: you listening/reading this?
"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"
by SaratogaRacing on Jun 9, 2009 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a little worrisome...
…but it’s probably not worth panicking over secondhand reports from a distant knoll in early June. I think we’re mainly suffering from lack of any real news to chew on.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Jun 9, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Here is the thing, if Romo was tearing it up, we would just hear about how bad the defense looked. Ultimately, we need to keep things in perspective as these are just OTA’s. If he still looks that way in training camp, then I will get concerned.
There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 9, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying that all these reports are lies?
by Baked Potato Soup on Jun 9, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What makes you think these reports in particular are lies
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 9, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because these OTAs are not open to the public
and if Romo did really look that bad it would have been brought up by the press, who actually watched these OTAs, at Wade’s presser.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 9, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, everyone here is lying and you aren't delusional at all.
by Zach22 on Jun 10, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, you're one to talk
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 10, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really want Romo putting everything on the line...
… in June?
We need his arm between september and february (hopefully), why do you want him throwing the ball with everything that he’s got and doing it “x” amount of times a day?
Have you heard about dead arms? Putting too much work on your arm can really screw up a QB…
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Jun 10, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really want Romo looking like crap in June?
I agree that we should not worry all that much because it is a long time before the season starts, but wouldn’t you be happier if the reports were that Romo looked sharp and accurate?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Jun 10, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would settle for sharp and focused.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Jun 10, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glass 1/2 full?
Maybe he didn’t spend the offseason throwing all the time,the last 3yrs thats all he did.
Ya’ know savin’ it for when it counts.
by psychodad on Jun 10, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he really looking like crap?
What do we know? The little that we get to hear from the media? We don’t get to hear about the other days with closed doors and when he’s working on his timing with his receivers.
We’re talking about OTAs, the team is throwing things up at them to see what sticks, that’s why the starting OLine lineup has consisted of this kind of guys: Free, McQuistan, Procter, Holland and Brewster. The team knows what the veteran can do and they aren’t replacing them because the guys playing are better… They just don’t want the veterans playing at full speed in June, which is the smart thing to do.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Jun 10, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as I can tell, no one is saying the passing game looks sharp
If there were such reports, I am sure someone would point it out to counterbalance these reports. As I said, it is still only June, so this can be worked out. What I do not understand is the idea that this does not matter at all. If Romo and Roy and Austin were firing on all cylinders with perfect timing, you guys would be shouting that from the rooftops and I’d join in (with the same caveat that it is only June), so to say it does not matter at all is a a prime example of homerism
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Jun 10, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not homerism, games aren't played in June
So, in your opinion, Romo should be firing on all cilinders, but then the OLine isn’t because the starters aren’t playing in an awful lot of the snaps… What about the DLine? They aren’t playing at full because their conterparts aren’t… What about Ware and the pass rushers? Should they be making sacks, hits and pressures? Players taking leaves of absence should be denied inmediately (even if they just got married)?
If you’re going to ask for perfection, this isn’t the time for it, now if he’s still erratic in the minicamp and training camp flags should be arised.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Jun 10, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not what I said at all
Let me just cut and past from my comment which you clearly did not read:
As I said, it is still only June, so this can be worked out. What I do not understand is the idea that this does not matter at all.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Jun 10, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it really doesn't
For starters we’re talking about OTAs, this aren’t even obligatory, around the League we can talk about an awful lot of veterans that haven’t even appeared around their teams facilities…
And now, your opinion is totally based on the comments of media members that are only allowed to see one practice a week, media members that are known for bringing negative comments in a much more consistent basis that positive ones…
This isn’t the time to show flawless level of play, it’s just the time to show up and begin the teamwork that is needed for the coming months. And that’s it.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Jun 10, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy Williams said they were sloppy as well
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Jun 10, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could
care less if Romo looks awful in June. If he looks awful in August/September, then I’ll worry.
Booyah!
by what_the_crap on Jun 10, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know about you guys but..
I’m really glad we picked a QB this year. The offense was the problem last year, I think it will hinder us this coming year as well. Just my gut.. and it’s usually right.
by torchindefenses on Jun 9, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The offense was the problem last year?
Really? I mean…it was PART of the problem, I guess….but did you see any of the games prior to Week 9 when Wade took over playcalling? Or the last 2 minutes of the Baltimore game?
The biggest problem last year was injuries. But if you’re looking for a side of the ball to blame, I’d place the blame evenly on all THREE units, offense, defense, and special teams. All three had big problems at various points. I don’t think adding Stephen McGee is gonna be the thing that fixes all these problems.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Jun 9, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely and utterly agree.
There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 9, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love if it Courtney Brown were finally able to get on the field for some productive snaps
When we did this scouting report on him at the old blog…
http://www.blueandsilverreport.com/2007/06/06/meet-your-draft-picks-courtney-brown/
…he seemed like a great developmental pick. Three years in, this is about the time you’d expect to either be seeing results or cutting him loose. Crossing my fingers that his big time physical talent translates into some on-field contribution this year, and those former WR hands translate into some picks.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Jun 9, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From Archer's report:
“And at one point, Ware went stride for stride with Felix Jones in coverage.”
God I love that linebacker.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Jun 9, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
come out of break and absolutely lose a safety
Well our safeties must still have some coverage problems if a 265 lb man is blowing by them, or Bennett is truly amazing.
by rioplayer7 on Jun 9, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that is much more of a testament to Bennett than it is an insult to our safeties because I have even seen a big guy like Witten burn coverage safeties time and time again.
There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 9, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did not burn they moved over to help coverage against T.O.
by rioplayer7 on Jun 10, 2009 5:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. There have been very many instances of safeties guarding Witten (Philly comes to mind) and he has done consistently well. Plus, as it pertains to Bennett, the guy has some serious acceleration. Couple that with good route running and he will be able to get open on, or burn, safeties.
There are lots of people that go to church on Sundays to get in touch with God. Personally, my church is on Sunday as well, it just happens to involve watching the Dallas Cowboys.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 10, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HaHaHaHaHaa!!!
Couldn’t cover Witten! Here comes Bennett,Jones,Choice,Anderson try to cover them too!!
Good Luck with that, Blitz and Die ,Garrett has to get all involved ie:FB, somebody has to cover him sooner or later.
Think about it, Garrett should be able to parade almost any package out on the field , and have mismatches. 2TEs to split out wide,3RBs, Hopefully 4-5 healthy WRs.
by psychodad on Jun 10, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither one has a reputation as being a good coverage safety.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jun 9, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least in the 3-4
historical shout out to #31/38
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 9, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Witten weighs about the same
and Bennett may be a little faster
by Realist Larry on Jun 10, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McGee of course isn't going to fix things on Offense
Resounding duh! What he will do is hopefully learn this offense and develop into a good QB and press Romo. The problem was in all phases last year due to injuries, I agree. In December they have a hard time scoring. This offensive line is getting older. Flo better be in shape. The snap exchanges are still crap. Yeah, it’s only June. The passing game scares me, not in the torchindefenses kind of way either.
by torchindefenses on Jun 9, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to be alarmist...
But seriously, center-QB exchange problems? Absolutely unacceptable after Gurode and Romo have been together this long. In freaking high school ball, I played center and if we missed ONE exchange, we stayed after a half hour just snapping. In high school. The rest of that stuff doesn’t worry me too much, and I’m not just blaming Romo (see Gurodes 20 or so high shotgun snaps nearly over Tony’s head) but problems on such a basic, fundamental level? Scary.
It’s June. I’ll have a beer and relax. Let me know if this is still going on in camp.
So I can switch to whiskey.
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
by nspirals on Jun 9, 2009 9:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+100
Most of this stuff is nonsense at this point, but yeah-center exchanges? Was that with Gurode? That would be weird.
by Realist Larry on Jun 10, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Romo under center?
Or, is Gurode sending them into the stratosphere again?
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
by GunsUp on Jun 10, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is shotgun so important?
As we saw it’s pretty useless in Nov/Dec, if your PBcenter can’t do it well-why do it so much?
It forces perfection in your protections, ‘cause Eagles,Giants,Skins are coming, they know if Romo’s standing aruond, they are toast. Look @ how they rush him now; Mush Rush anybody?
by psychodad on Jun 10, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Romo preferred it.
In the Giants playoff game a couple of years ago, they were saying that Romo preferred the shotgun.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jun 10, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TERRY AND TEX
For all those who are not familiar, Tex makes crazy, absurd, negative comments about Romo 24-7.
Terry on the otherhand makes crazy, absurd, positive comments about Romo 24-7
They are each others equals in opposite directions, its quite annoying.
Can we have a filter for them in which in Romo reference from either of them be banned?
It truly dilutes the great content on this blog, and really makes me sick to my stomach to hear either of them talk.
Guys seriously, is it possible there is a middle ground?
Tex, do you not recall what we went through between Aikman-Romo?
Terry, is it possible Romo does deserve some blame, and perhaps he could do somethings differently to avoid such scrutinization?
That said, all I have heard about OTAs from so many sources, radio shows, etc… is that Romo has not looked sharp, and I really, really, really hope that gets ironed out. I really dont see the same Romo as his first 16 games starting, but I sure as heck hope he comes back.
As far as the line, Romo better hope they regain their 2007 form, because if they dont Romo will be irrelevant.
Lets hope that all of this is because of dominating defense, and not horrible patterns in the offense(not reffering to Wrs, when i say patterns).
by TONYINCC on Jun 9, 2009 10:10 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
PS
I generally read from my blackberry, where i cant post, and you guys made me so ticked off, that I got up and went to the computer to respond…..GOOD JOB!!!!
by TONYINCC on Jun 9, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not forget that
Romo’s fumbles can be excused because he’s the only QB that gets chased by 300lb lineman. I would fumble, too, if I were chased by 300lb lineman.
by ym on Jun 9, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what crazy or absurd statements have I ever made about Romo?
I’ve never said he was without fault, actually I’ve said it numerous times.
Tex on the other hand just makes stuff up about Romo which are obviously false, like him being fat and out of shape.
I’ve never made up a false statement about Romo.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 9, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me.
I’m always right, and I never lie.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Jun 9, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absurd
That he would have made the cut in the Masters
That the botched snap was irrelevant because you know Seattle would have won anyway
That he is only responsible for fumbles when he isn’t touched – he can carry the ball however he pleases because he deserves perfect protection every single snap
That the first pick in the Baltimore game was Owens fault even though it was a pathetic and senseless pass to Roy Williams
That the second pick in the same game was a good throw and a good decision and the pick was the fault of the offensive line
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 9, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
never said he would make the cut at Augusta, thats just false
never said the snap was irrelevent, just that a FG didn’t guarantee victory
never said the first pick in the balt game was T.O.s fault, only that he didn’t make an attempt to catch it, never said Romo was faultless
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 9, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the throw was to Williams
and you did put the blame on Owens, and still think he should have somehow made an attempt to catch it.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 9, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should have, thats not being crazy or absurd
just my opinion, I’m not making up false facts
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 9, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was nowhere near the ball
it was to Williams and it was a pathetic throw and and even more pathetic decision – I assume you don’t dispute that
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 9, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch the video
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 9, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I hadn't clicked on that link
Those INT’s are TERRIBLE. And Terry, they are TOTALLY, and ONLY Romo’s fault. He set his feet and threw the ball he wanted to throw. TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE decisions. That right there is the reason he wasn’t drafted. That’s the reason Parcells quit the Cowboys. That’s the reason he rode the pine for 3 years and only came in after Drew Bledsoe’s tank emptied before our eyes.
Awful. Just fu*)ing awful.
by Joey2zs on Jun 9, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me personally.......
Romo’s worst misfire in that game was criminally underthrowing a wide open Miles Austin. That would’ve breathed life into the Cowboys in the 3rd quarter instead of them only finally showing vital signs when they were in panic mode with 5 minutes left.
by MadMick on Jun 10, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or...
misssing Barber wide open for TD or…underhanding it to Roy wide open in the endzone or… not ever checking down to the back’s who when not blocking are in routes. FB had only 2 catches all season!
But I digress, in my mind he is the best we’ve had in too long a time and given the right tuttledge and talent he’ll get us what we all want. or I want! can’t speak for you guys. Missed 3 games still had better #s than Eli,McNabulous,Cambell.
And since we’re not allowed to bring up injuries
Let’s look @ STeams, Uneven play at safety,OLine depth… Oh yea.. They did that w/draft & cheap vets that can step in if needed .
Look around the division and I see teams that are desperate to fill wholes with rookies and free-agents.
by psychodad on Jun 10, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was an underthrown pass
I’m not saying that was a great pass, I was talking about the INT in the second half
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 10, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There goes the old switcheroo
When the video proves you wrong, all of a sudden it is a different pass.
There was no INT in the second half. If you are talking about the second pick, it was more pathetically underthrown. No receiver running down field in a full sprint can anticipate that a pass will be underthrown by seven yards for no good reason and reverse direction and break up the play.
You reverse engineer so many of your thoughts – you start with absolving Romo of blame, and then work backwards. That was a critical game and those two INTs in the first half were his fault, solely and clearly..
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 10, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but weren't the reason we lost
Although poor paases, they happened early and didn’t affect the outcome of the game.
That was my initial argument when fans started bashing Romo after the game.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 10, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another shiftaroo
The second one certainly afected the outcome of the game. The Ravens put points on the board. Those actually count in the final score. A good pass may have helped put the Ravens down.
So your argument is:
1. That pass to Williams that was picked off is Owens fault
2. I mean the other pass is Owen’s fault
3. If they were Romo’s fault they didn’t affect the outcome of the game.
When you were blaming Owens you sure didn’t say that his error didn’t affect the outcome fo the game. This is another arbitrary rule that you only apply to Romo.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 10, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
You said he would come close, which is absurd for a guy who continually bombs out in local qualifying. He is just another dime a dozen 1.5 handicap who would shoot 90-90 at Augusta.
“funny but I bet he would have come close to making the cut
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Apr 24, 2009 11:38 AM PDT"
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 9, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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you think a hack who can’t make it out of locals would have any chance of making the cut at Augusta? What makes Romo so special in this situation?
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 10, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romo has a scratch handicap
and anyone who has a scratch handicap would have a shot, albeit a very long shot. I just said it was possible, not likely.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 10, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A scratch would have no shot
Who was the last Mid Am qualifier to make the cut? Romo wouldn’t come close, which is what you said.
http://www.ghin.com/lookup_t.shtml
The only score posted puts him at a 3.7, not scratch.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 10, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a 2.2
for his hits and giggles fest last year.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 10, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terry, your manlove for Romo is boundless
Pro golfers play a different game from even the best weekend warriors, and when Augusta is groomed for the Masters, it is set up to defeat the best golfers in the world.
T.O. is a pretty good basketball player, but I doubt he could take Lebron in a game of one on one. That is basically what you are saying with regards to Romo.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Jun 10, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Perspective on Tex and Terry
"For all those who are not familiar, Tex makes crazy, absurd, negative comments about Romo 24-7. Terry on the otherhand makes crazy, absurd, positive comments about Romo 24-7. They are each others equals in opposite directions, its quite annoying."
Well, I’ll give you that these two are polar opposites on their opinions on Romo, but that is where the similarity ends. They are far from each other’s equal.
Tex has posted a grand total of 157 times on this blog. His entries are almost always entertaining. And while they usually focus on Romo, there is other stuff in his blogs that make them well worth reading. He rarely if ever personalizes his posts and seems to be having fun.
In stark contrast, Terry has posted just short of 19,000 times on this blog (19,000!) and, (being ultra conservative here) Romo is the topic of at least 75% of his posts. Let’s give Terry the benefit of the doubt and say that he has had 100 original ideas regarding Romo. That leaves at least 14,000 posts of endless repetitive drivel…..the same opinions and comments about Romo over and over and OVER again. Think about that for a minute – the guy apparently needs to post his same opinions 15-20 times EVERY DAY on the same blog. Not different opinions – but the exact same stuff! In addition, Terry frequently slams other posters (You Romo Hater!) for their opinions when they contradict his opinions – which he mistakenly views as facts.
Educated conjecture here, but it seems Terry is a nut case whose entire life and self-worth are tied to the success of Tony Romo as the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. Terry certainly has a right to his opinions regarding Tont Romo and to state them on this blog; but I feel his right to express those opinions ends at just a few posts a week. The remaining 98% of his posts that simply repeat what he has been stating over and over and over again are repetitive nonsense that waste everyone else’s time on this outstanding blog.
It is an insult to Tex to put him in the same class as Terry.
by Cowboy Louie on Jun 10, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also agree that Tex's posts are entertaining
He seems to be having fun.
On the other hand…
by ym on Jun 11, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can call me a nut case
but I can’t call you a Romo hater?? How does that work?
BTW, your numbers are way off, 95% of my comments about Romo are defending him from haters like you nad Tex, FYI and I comment on a lot more subjects than Romo. As a matter, if I didn’t have to say a word about Romo for the next two months that would be find my me, but when bloggers like you and Tex post your hate regarding Romo, I feel I have to repsond.
Of course you like Tex, you both share the same feeling for #9, no surprise there.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 11, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's settle down here...
It’s no one’s job on this blog to call out other people on the board like this. If you don’t like what Tex posts, ignore it. If you don’t like what Terry is posting, ignore it. As long as they are not breaking the guidelines they’re free to post what they want.
I’m serious here guys, this blog has lasted a long time without this sort of back-and-forth in the comments sections concerning personal feuds.
So please, refrain.
by Dave Halprin on Jun 12, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
point taken
Terry, if I have insulted you, I did not mean to, and I apologise.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Jun 12, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you haven't, we're cool
I really try hard to only attack comments and not the bloggers themselves, unless somebody like Louie puts me in defensive mode.
I don’t care when bloggers attack my posts and I don’t take it personal.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 12, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So,
Ken Hamlin misses the day and Courtney Brown gets the start at FS.
Bye bye, Pat Watkins.
The stupid swamp drops another couple of inches!
by Rafael Vela on Jun 9, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We hope
Jerry’s been trying to drain that thing for over ten years.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 9, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that is why Marty B was killing the coverage...
Nope nevermind we are still lacking that coverage safety whether it is hamlin or not. It will once again be our downfall and weak spot.
by rioplayer7 on Jun 10, 2009 5:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe...
It’s because he’s a physical freak of nature.
it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.
by AirforceBat on Jun 10, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Alan Ball got the start at FS.
"Grow where you are planted."
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 10, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One way or another...
I think Watkins is gone.
it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.
by AirforceBat on Jun 10, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that too, but he had a pretty good day yesterday.
I’m pretty sure I read he had a pick and he also laid out Manuel Johnson.
Ball, Brown, and Watkins = 2/3 or 1/3 gone. You guys are probly right, Watkins lacks the versatility of the other 2 dudes.
"Grow where you are planted."
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 10, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think mainly...
he lacks upside. While you have seen constant improvement with the other two, Watkins just seems to have hit his ceiling. I know he isn’t that much older than the other two, but it doesn’t seem like anyone has had many good things to say about him, except for special teams.
It’s sad, because he has definitly had plenty of opportunity. While some of the Carpenter defendants(not that there are many) will say that he hasn’t had enough game time to see what you have, Pat has gotten starting time and looked… eh.
it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.
by AirforceBat on Jun 10, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true. He's had plenty of starting opportunities.
Even w/that big ol’ neckroll, he still seems to be oft-injured. Best chance for him to make this team is to head on over to SS behind Sensabaugh and battle it out with Michael Hamlin.
FS already has Ken Hamlin
Ball and Brown can be FS/CB tweeners
and DeAngelo Smith
We also have to factor in that Scandrick could be playing a S position in sub packages as well.
"Grow where you are planted."
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 10, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brown's only shot to make the team
is as a CB, he’s not physical enough to play safety.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 10, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brown didn't impress me when he was on the field but he was on more than Ball
Ball however looked good the handful of times I saw him. If everything goes to plan, Dallas is going to kill in turnovers
by AustonianAggie on Jun 10, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only a few of the Pacells guys left..
The ?‘s are about to answered for the ones who haven’t made the jump.
I really wanted to see Watkins Take off,6’5" 225lbs. and he can run,Man he may not get it together here but if he doe’s Look Out!
by psychodad on Jun 10, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Jerry had Pacman on the brain.
Jerry needs to take some stupid pills this next month, to keep from reversing the
healthy trend we’ve seen this spring.
by Rafael Vela on Jun 9, 2009 10:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One PacMan type
fills in for about three Watkins.
Old RW had some stupid in him – like when he was surprised at getting flagged on his own rule.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jun 9, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just the facts mam..
Romo doesn’t look fat in that picture.
The reports from camp sounded like the bad passes were because Romo barely had time to get them off or receivers dropped them. It did say Romo was doing something gofy with his cadence? I don’t know what that’s about.
If, Romo were throwing bad passes at this point, I’d be somewhat concerned. If he and Roy Williams were actually hooking up on their own before OTAs to get to know each other and run some routes…that should have given Romo time to work out off season kinks…IF INDEED HE WERE THROWING BAD PASSES. I’m not sure that he is though, based on the actual words of the reporters.
Terry and Tex … just keep being yourselves. It’s part of what makes the blog entertaining to me.
As far as the offense looking bad, it always takes longer for an offense to get itself together. I would love to hear that they are making laser strikes all over the field, but then at this point I’d be freaking out about our defense. Things really sound pretty normal for this point in the season.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Jun 9, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
gofy = goofy
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Jun 9, 2009 11:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Score Board
Tex always has the score board… Tony Romo has never won a playoff game.
There are 500 QBs from Tebow to Kitna who could have won a single playoff game with this loaded Cowboys team over the last three years.
by Montecito Tex on Jun 9, 2009 11:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When did winning a game solely lie in the QBs hands?
I mean seriously.. you can’t talk about Aikman without mentioning some of his weapons or even the defensive side of the ball. You can’t mention ANY game won without mentioning their weapons. Tony Romo botched a field goal to not make it a tie. How did it get to the tie in the first place? Who was the one that ALMOST redeemed the terrible defensive plays to tie it up? ROMO! The defense in that game was suspect and the other playoff game that was lost Romo’s main weapon was badly hurt.
Last year we almost made the post season even with Romo hurt. If he wasn’t out of those games would anyone question whether or not we would have been in the playoffs? Doubtful. Our last blowout wasn’t solely Romo’s fault either. How bad was the score? Yeeeeeeeah, I don’t think Romo can do much to stop them from scoring.
by Static on Jun 10, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what you're really saying is.......
…..Drew Henson is the 900th best QB in the world?
by MadMick on Jun 10, 2009 5:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
That isn’t too subjective.
BTW, that loaded Cowboy team that got beat by the Giants… yeah that Giants team beat the more loaded Patriots team in the Super Bowl.
And bringing up QB’s who haven’t even played in the NFL?
But why am I responding? You won’t actually debate this, because you don’t have ANYthing to go back at it with. You sit there and snipe with no guts to actually spit out an intelligent reply.
it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.
by AirforceBat on Jun 10, 2009 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're wrong
Except for maybe a few bad throws, Romo played quite well in his two playoff games. Kitna couldn’t have done any better and Tebow won’t even be a NFL qb, let alone come close to sniffing a playoff win as one.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jun 10, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see the coaches are once again really in charge of the team
But RT Marc Colombo wasn’t having any of it, shoving Robert Brewster out of the way when the rookie tried to replace Colombo after a false start.
by rioplayer7 on Jun 10, 2009 5:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bit of a worry...
Not that I would complain about a nasty o-lineman….
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
by BoyfromOz on Jun 10, 2009 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The offensive woes are disturbing...
but I’d rather it happen now to get the bugs out.
it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.
by AirforceBat on Jun 10, 2009 8:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha
How about no scott.
it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.
by AirforceBat on Jun 10, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OTA's...
I like the idea of Benett putting it all together-if they have leaks on the OLine now’s the time to fix it, As for Ball+Brown last year they had the oppurtunity to step-up when the secondary was hurt and didn’t make me notice, Did they even play STeams?
Carpenter throw his behind in there, Sink or Swim, Brooking’s back there,maybe get a trade for him after 4-5 games. Watkins same situation Sink or Swim,
Hamlin bothers me, no show during the season-no show now, High$ leader,teach the young guys by example, as much as Ellis whined he was here for his teammates.
by psychodad on Jun 10, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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