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The VRR: Potential at WR Goes Through Miles Austin; Cowboys Have Biggest Fan Base

The Cowboys' wide receiver position has definitely seen its fair share of media attention this offseason. Its point of emphasis always seems to build around the who-is-going-to-replace-T.O. theory. Other than spending a seventh-round pick on Manny Johnson, the team has stuck to a plan of building the position from within.

Dallas will depend on players such as Roy Williams and Miles Austin living up to their potential. Unless something drastic happens, Williams will be the starter. It is Austin who can make the position dynamic.

While JJT focuses the pressure of playing wide receiver for the Cowboys on Williams, NFP's Matt Bowen looks at  Austin as the guy who really needs to progress.

Miles Austin was strictly a deep-ball receiver in 2008 and finished the season averaging more than 21 yards a catch for the Cowboys – but that was on only 13 receptions. We can talk all we want about how he’ll step into the No. 3 role for the Cowboys, but until we see him develop into a third-down receiver who can also contribute in the intermediate passing game, he’s still question mark – and not a sure thing yet in my mind.

The Cowboys are counting on Jason Witten, Roy Williams and Patrick Crayton to make up for the loss of production from the departed Terrell Owens, but this is a huge training camp for Austin because his role will dramatically increase. If he’s nothing more than a deep threat, then the Cowboys will struggle on third downs. However, if he can develop his overall game, they’ll forget quickly about T.O.

We know Austin can run down the field, but we don’t know what else he provides. Training camp will be the first time he’s asked to provide more than a big play to this offense.

Obviously, Austin has to stay healthy through camp and preseason. If he does, the experience he gains could further his development enough to start against Tampa, or at the very least, solidify himself as the third guy.

More VRR after the jump.

Star-divide

The aforementioned WR Manny Johnson is looking forward to training camp.

"I feel good. I just want to stay in shape while I have these two weeks off going into camp," Johnson said. "I think everybody starts on the same slate, so whoever impresses coaches at training camp will go from there."

He's also looking forward to seeing Stephen Hodge on the other side of the field again.

Johnson will join former Tatum and TCU standout Stephen Hodge, a sixth-round Dallas pick, at Cowboys training camp in San Antonio. The experience is yet another the duo will have shared over the years.

"We've played against each other since the seventh grade. Most people go in where they got drafted not knowing many people, but me and him have known each other for a long time, so at least we had somebody there that we knew and could be a little more comfortable with," Johnson said. "We're both from East Texas. Everybody (with the Cowboys) I'm sure knows we're from East Texas because we talk about it all the time."

No, Asaph Schwapp is not a ninja, but the rookie free-agent fullback is one strong dude. It will be interesting to see how his strength translates onto the field in training camp. Here's part of the Q & A he did recently with the Star-T:

What do you need to do to make this team?

Again, it’s more of a learning period right now and all of the physical aspects take place during fall camp. I just have to try as hard as I can to make this team and just do whatever I do best, which is blocking and special teams.

Have you been able to show off your strength yet?

We don’t have any pads on yet so I can’t really hit anybody or anything like that. I mean we work out and I’ve impressed people with the numbers I put up on the bench, but nothing too serious.

S.A. Express-News' Tom Orsborn explores the pros and cons of training camp.

The Dallas Cowboys: You either love 'em or hate 'em. Apparently, that statement is true. A recent ESPN SportsNation poll resulted in the Cowboys (36%) edging out the Patriots (34%) as the NFL's most hated team. Um, did we ever cheat? The good news: the Cowboys have the biggest fan base at 22%. The Steelers (20%) come in at a close second. Ha!

Another SportsNation fan poll predicts that RB Felix Jones will have a breakout year.

The Cowboys' running back commanded 37 percent of more than 24,000 votes when SportsNation asked which emerging NFC player would enjoy a breakout season in 2009. Percy Harvin (24 percent), Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (22 percent) and Pierre Thomas (18 percent) rounded out the voting.

Mike Freeman, a columnist at CBSSports, hops on the anti-Bennett bandwagon.

Bennett says the video was just "all fun and games".

In other non-football football news, I like thought that you all would like to know that Jessica Simpson canceled her Ken and Barbie-themed birthday party. Okay...so, either this sounds like 'splitsville' is for real, or like Romo just didn't want to chance having to drive around in a pink convertible.

Well, it looks as if Keith Davis will be available to the Cowboys after all - just in case. The Raiders released the veteran safety on Monday.

Raised by educators, Bradie James is helping to give 10 lucky students a chance to succeed academically through his James Gang Back-to-School Jam Pack Contest.

Barry Switzer was honored Tuesday night with the Knights of Columbus John F. Kennedy Community Service Award for his work with the Special Olympics.

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His ability to stay healthy is the biggest question about Miles Austin

Based on very limited time last year I thought he showed he’s capable of playing at a very high level. Huge questions about his ability to stay healthy though

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 15, 2009 11:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I usually resist putting that label on players

but Austin really is starting to make me wonder as well.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 15, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t he take a brady-like hit in the preseason to miss games last year? I haven’t seen the play but from what I’ve read…. I dunno, thats what I’ve heard and please correct me if I’m wrong… if it is the case, how are we calling that injury prone? Knees aren’t made of rubber and generally only bend one direction

by OneStarYear on Jul 15, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

And that wasn’t his only injury. He’s had multiple other problems.

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 15, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They should add various stress tests to the combine...

test out the larger leg muscles, joints, teeth, etc… I kid!

by OneStarYear on Jul 15, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oooh

That is just on the right side of wrong

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jul 15, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But on the other Austin issue

I don’t buy that he is essential for third down success. There are enough other weapons between that fine trio of RBs, Crayton and Bennett to keep defenses honest as they try to bottle up Williams and Witten.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 15, 2009 11:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought the same thing when I read that.

Maybe he’s just trying to say that Austin’s help on 3rd-downs will improve his overall progression at WR?

All eyes on Free.

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 15, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would make more sense

but I think he confused himself as he wrote that.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 15, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

All eyes on Free.

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 15, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

I see Austin as needing to develop even more in the area of consistency as a deep threat. That’s his money-maker. He needs to provide that legit threat down the field but also still has to work on catching the ball when he gets behind people. His hands have gotten a bit stickier these days though, no doubt.

If he can command safeties always keeping an eye on him then Roy Williams can be deadly across the middle and on out routes.

As far as 3rd down goes, I think Marty B’s progress will be more integral than Austin’s in keeping the chains moving this year.

by KaceOFbass on Jul 15, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, Bowen is way off base there

So long as he can provide the deep threat that T.O. provided to our offense, that’s all he really needs to do.

Witten, Crayton, Bennett and Hurd can move the chains.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 15, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

RW and Witten if its 3rd and Long
otherwise its the barbarian and Felix “OMG RUN RUN” Jones

by fuji1232 on Jul 15, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think Killa is watching 4th and Long?

I can see him preparing his argument that 80th spot on the roster is better given to him.

by eliason on Jul 15, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Michael Steele can bring the fried check to the Bennett bros Olympics

not to get political at all here, but the juxtaposition is irresistible…

Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele: “I got the fried chicken and potato salad.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2DJpcIu5cY

by scottmaui on Jul 15, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bill Parcells on Potential

“Potential means you haven’t done sh!t”. I’d love to see Austin succeed, and his injuries have been somewhat flukish, but I really hope he’s not just one of those injury-prone players that never realizes his potential, because his upside is impressive.

by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Jul 15, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not concerned about Austins ability to be more than a deep threat

When the numbers are so small the statistics have little value. You could use them to make a case that he IS a deep threat but I don’t think you could make a strong case that that’s all he is. Take out the 2 long catches in the GB game and he avg 15 yds a catch.

Also, his role last year really was exclusively as a deep threat so it would make sense that that is how he was used. There’s nothing in his history that says he can’t be a complete #2 receiver except his health concerns.

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 15, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And rabbit ears

I’m doing shadow puppets on his slate as well.

I think Jerry set the table for these expectations. I sure hope the young guy can get healthy enough to execute.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 15, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do we invest so much time

in Free agent WR’s and low round draft picks that can’t stay healthy.

Years and years go by and some how these guys remain on the team.

It’s really getting ridiculous.

How much more time are we going to waste on Austin, Stanback, and Hurd.

Has Jerry ever drafted a 1000 yard WR.

by Sensi Star on Jul 15, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"Has Jerry ever drafted a 1000 yard WR."

I think Jimmy Smith had a 1000 yard season :)

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 15, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Austin will make you eat those words

And I got news for you, one of the top 2 WRs in franchise history as an undrafted FA as well as our pro bowl qb.

Drafting a WR doesn’t guarantee or insure anything.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 15, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

WR is as big of a crap shoot as high round QB’s. The team has had too many needs in recent drafts to roll the dice on WR’s given who was available when they picked.

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 15, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terry is really

Mickey Spagnola in disguise.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Jul 15, 2009 1:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I met Mickey

Great guy and great writer

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 15, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for part

Where he’s slower. I think Hurd will eventually replace Crayton if he can stay healthy.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 15, 2009 2:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Hurd has lots of potential (lol at the Parcells quote again)

but its his lack of “basics” as a WR that scare anyone, including me

by fuji1232 on Jul 15, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+10000

And it stings a little more because Terrance Copper, the guy we cut for them (while he hasn’t done much in the league) has already accomplished more than Hurd and Austin combined.

by JimmyJohnson on Jul 16, 2009 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we please just get Matt Jones?

He is 6’6", 240lbs, and ran the 40 in 4.37 seconds. Who cares that he does cocaine?

Michael Irvin loved cocaine, hookers, marijuana, and assault, and that worked out just fine!

by Damnsammit on Jul 15, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah who cares if he gets arrested

and Goodell suspends for the rest of the season…get a clue.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 15, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

He’s not going to be asked to be the #1. I still think he’s worth a TC invite.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jul 15, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What others do you mean?

Accomplishments alone, Matt Jones would challenge for the Y receiver.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jul 15, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

assuming he isn't going to be suspended

or do something stupid, again, to be suspended in the future

by commoncents on Jul 15, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he escaped suspension

Anyway, I don’t think he’s on a roster. Sign him up to a minimum deal and let him duke it out at camp. Cut him at the next sign of trouble. It’s not like there’s a dearth of WRs behind him that wouldn’t be able to step up, right? Isn’t that what we’re counting on this season?

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jul 16, 2009 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're right

If I remember correctly he is not going to be punished for the latest infraction, although I’m not sure the rationale.

I’m on the fence on this one. One the one hand, he’s probably not a locker room problem. On the other hand, he’s certainly capable of being a distraction and maybe taking a step back from the idea that guys have to be accountable. I don’t know…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 16, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is not going to jail but he I beleive he pleaded down to a lesser offence.

Having said that, Once he is resigned doesnt he face a suspension from Goodell. Isnt that the real kicker or is this his first offense in the Leagues drug policy.

I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.

by squidlo97 on Jul 16, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that though JJ will sign malcontents he will no longer sign druggies.

I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.

by squidlo97 on Jul 16, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I had thought, but like innuendo

I have heard that he would not be facing suspension by the league.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 16, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Even Mike Jefferson.

All eyes on Free.

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 15, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jones worries me more

Cocaine is way way harder to kick. A lot of guys never do.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 15, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And they seem to be set worrying about whether guys like Miles, Hurd, and Stanback can progress, rather than have to worry about whether some guy can keep his nose clean.

They need to see what they have in these guys so they can address the position next offseason, if need be. Jones would just get in the way of that.

All eyes on Free.

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 15, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Kep his nose clean"

Nice.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 16, 2009 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or he might push them into finally doing something

I’m not betting against Austin, but there’s nothing that Hurd and Stanback can do that Jones hasn’t already done.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jul 16, 2009 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Jones play ST?

I watched that Cleveland game last year and he blew up. Don’t remember whether he returns kicks though. I would guess not seeing that he was a starter at JAX.

All eyes on Free.

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 16, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really.

I remember the Lunch Break guys talking about that. If he’s brought in it’s pretty much just to be a receiver.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jul 16, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cowboys just cleansed the roster in the off season

I would be absolutely shocked if any problem children are signed

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 15, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would too but

It has seemed to me that most teams can absorb one problem chicld, but it’s whent hey come in multiples that they start having issues. So if they had a guy, I don’t think it would recreate last year’s circus atmosphere.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 16, 2009 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a problem child is only worth the aggrevation

if he is a really good player who will be productive. Matt Jones would have a hard time beating out Austin or Crayton, he’s simply not that good despite his eye catching computer numbers.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 16, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

It was sort of a joke post about the cocaine and everything, but gun charges in a strip club (Adam Jones), unproductive defensive tackles with past legal troubles (Tank), and constant locker room chasms (TO) are a bit different than a guy who got in trouble with cocaine one time.

Sure he screwed up, but lots of young adults with money are going to partake in drugs and alcohol occasionally. If he didn’t get caught then he would have had a 1000+ yard season for Jacksonville in 2008. He had 761 yards in 12 games, and that makes him more proven than any other receiver on the team except RW and maybe Crayton.

I have faith in Austin and Crayton, but I would rather see them bring in Matt Jones for training camp than any of the guys on 4th and Long.

by Damnsammit on Jul 16, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4th and Long player has a roster spot locked up

so that’s not going to happen. The bottom line is that the odds are in favor of Jones screwing up again, it’s only a matter of time.

I say only bring him in if one of our top WRs (RW, Austin, Crayton or Hurd) goes down with an injury during camp and would be out for a significant period of time.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 16, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doubt it

I don’t think the winner will actually make the final 53 (though Jerrah will certainly give him every opportunity). I don’t see how Hawkins lost. He seems like a man among boys out there – especially in ST drills. Besides, Hawkins is what we need at WR – a fast, smurf-type who runs good routes. All our WR’s are 6’2, relatively slow, and run sloppy routes.

by JimmyJohnson on Jul 16, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

I don’t see any of those guys making the final 53, but I think Matt Jones has enormous talent and could excel here. He’s not a violent offender, just a party person.

Maybe Romo could teach him how to just sip on Grey Goose with his mouth instead of the snowflakes up the nose.

He’s not a QB→WR experiment and he has already proven that he can play in the NFL. That’s pretty much more than everyone else on the roster has shown except for Crayton and RW.

by Damnsammit on Jul 16, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never said he would make the 53 man roster

I said he was guaranteed a roster spot going into camp.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 16, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you believe some of the gossip, Jones didn't have a "1 time" cocaine problem

He may have only been caught once but I’ve seen reports as far back as college that he had a problem.

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 16, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, getting caught doing it in a car shows that he's had practice travelling with the drug.

Pretty much suggests he’s been a regular/part-time user if he was Jones’ (pun intended) enough to have to snort blow in the back of a car.

All eyes on Free.

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 16, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Repost but I thought that JJ would sign malcontents he would no longer sign druggies.

I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.

by squidlo97 on Jul 16, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure

Has he said that?

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 16, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember hearing/reading about that 2 years ago.

Some projects are worth the risks but druggies sting the worse. Addictions are tough to overcome and being in the NFL offers to much temptation. There is the public relations nightmare and the suspensions that upset team chemistry. I’ll try to remember where I read it.

I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.

by squidlo97 on Jul 16, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

Was it related at all to Q?

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 16, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so. Maybe around that time.

I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.

by squidlo97 on Jul 16, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would help if Austin could become a possesion guy too

but we sure don’t need him to be. You want possesion receivers? Uhhh what about R. Williams? Crayton? Witten? Bennett? Barber? Felix? I think we’ll manage just fine on 3rd downs..

by sublimezg on Jul 15, 2009 2:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm hoping for a little more creativity as well

with Felix and Barber in the backfield together and Felix motioning into the slot or out wide…

And please utilize the screen more… not only HB screens but TE and WR screens as well (slow down that pressure)

by commoncents on Jul 15, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then you have a true number 1

A true number 1 can do it all. Short, long, middle, outside, deep and underneath. Size speed and toughness. The ability to run the whole route tree. I read where he thinks he should be reconized as in the hunt for the number 1 spot. I like that attitude.

I do remember him picking up a key first down across the middle against Redskins.

I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.

by squidlo97 on Jul 15, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah yes, Romo's pitch forward

In early days, Austin would’ve dropped that. That play gave me hope for him.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jul 15, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly - he needs to be the Harper not the Irvin of the Offense

Roy is the Irvin wannabe – the go-to-guy on intermediate 3rd downs. And then all the other guys you mention should be solid 3rd down converters too.

I don’t see why Austin needs to do this other than as an occassional change-up. We didn’t expect Harper to be the key 3rd down guy – but doesn’t mean he can’t convert a key third down for a long gain to seal a playoff win….. )

Austin seems to be a popular choice as a “breakout” guy (along with Felix)> Interestingly I have seen a couple of references on other sites to him having good hands. I thought that was an area he needed to develop?

"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson

by BoyfromOz on Jul 15, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

great point

If Austin only becomes as good as Harper was in the 90s, this offense will be elite.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 16, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too slow

Austin runs a 4.5 40. Plenty fast to be a possession receiver but certainly not a burner that stretches the field. We don’t have anybody to stretch the field.

by JimmyJohnson on Jul 16, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure you're right about that

I"m not positive of his 40 time but stretching the field was exactly his role last year and when he was healthy he was consistently behind the defense.

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 16, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, do you watch games? He got open deep consistently. Thats stretching the field.

I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.

by squidlo97 on Jul 16, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On offense I want guys

who shrink the field. 100 yards is already a really long way in the NFL.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 16, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guys who cover it fastest, shrink it.

I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.

by squidlo97 on Jul 16, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah

Well then I’m fer it and not agin it.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 16, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Open Deep Consistently?

Is that why he has averaged 0.375 catches per game through his 3 year career?

by JimmyJohnson on Jul 16, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His first year he didnt play.

His second year he was wide open in limited opportunities but couldnt catch.(thinking to much) His third year he showed flashes caught several deep ballls and was open more than that, but got dinged up. You keep going back to some unaccurate timed 40 as the end all of his speed but his limited film show him open deep and catching a few deep. He also has many other timed speeds that show he can run. Whats your problem with him.

I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.

by squidlo97 on Jul 16, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's not true

Austin is a 4.4 guy and has plenty of speed to blow by CBs.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 16, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's an interesting link

The place where Austin worked out to get ready for the combine used him as a testimonial. This link is to a .pdf presentation chronicalling it. It had him at 4.47 in the 40. Whatever his 40 time, he’s shown he is plenty fast to be a deep threat.

http://www.elitefts.com/documents/syracuse-seminar/Miles-Austin-Project.pdf

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 16, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone who isn't blind

can see the dude can fly like the wind blows, any statement made that he’s too slow is nonsense.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 16, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4.52 at the combine

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2006/draft/players/29607.html
That may still make him our fastest receiver. But he isn’t a stretch-the-field guy in the NFL. Defenses ignored him because we had a legitimate speedster in TO to stretch the field.

by JimmyJohnson on Jul 16, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry Rice ran a 4.6 at the combine

Are you telling me he couldn’t stretch the field?

One thing I do know for certain, you’re definitely not Jimmy Johnson because the real Jimmy Johnson knows speed when he sees it.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 17, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me add...

4.52 is just fine… unless you are being counted on as the “speed guy”.

by JimmyJohnson on Jul 16, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And let me add...

That combine times are garbage.

Maybe garbage is a strong word. They are useful to a point, but generally they are just things that can get a guy drafted higher or lower than they should be.

Chad Johnson ran a 4.5, and I can’t even remember what Jerry Rice ran.

And defenses don’t ignore guys. That’s just ridiculous. They might have had coverage drawn over more towards one player, but there is some guy covering him that is getting burned.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jul 16, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, Felix only ran a 4.4

and I know he’s faster than that.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 17, 2009 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is you could probably find 5 different articles and every one give you a different time.

You have picked the one that backs your view. Problem is we now have film on him playing games and he plays fast enough to get deep consistently. Thats all you need. I dont give a rats ass if you find a article of him losing a race to fat Albert. He gets the job done.

A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. Gen. George Patton

by squidlo97 on Jul 17, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

The 40 time is great when you are evaluating thousands of college kids who want to join the NFL. You can see which group is “expected” to be a speed demon and base your selections off that, but the truth is you don’t know spit about them until you see them in full pads on a field against another NFL team.

by Damnsammit on Jul 17, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm okay with Austin just being the deep threat this year

It’d be nice if he shows that he’s capable of more, but really, send him deep and heave the ball.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Jul 15, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

People need to lay off Tellus

Us Jews make fun of ourselves all the time. Just go turn on a Mel Brooks movie. We Jews have been known to joke about the Jewish stereotypes all the time.

Some people need to take a chill pill, get a sense of humor, and give Tellus a break.

by quincyyyyy on Jul 15, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh huh

it’s not like he was making fun of slavery or anything. What he did was harmless. If Igor Olshansky came out with a video of the Jewish Olympics and was eating bagels and lox nobody would care, and many including me would think that would be funny. I do think certain things are off limits like slavery for obvious reasons. But come on give the kid a break and laugh it off. Tellus is a good goofy kid, it’s not like he is involved with drugs and gangs or anything.

by quincyyyyy on Jul 15, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well if he was just 'Tellus...then nobody would watch or care

but he is using the fact that he is a dallas cowboy as a platform to put his stupidity into the ether…its just stupid IMO…look at me! look at me!

by McLovin9 on Jul 15, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bro - i could care less really...and i dont watch his youtube nonsense...not once

but the fact that i know about it means that obviously there are a number of people that take issue with what he is doing with his status as a dallas cowboy

some people raise money for charity, get involved in the community etc etc etc…’Tellus is putting nonsense on youtube

by McLovin9 on Jul 15, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How do you know Tellus doesn't do anything for charity?

Moreover, I’m sure there are tons of players that have twitter, youtube accounts, etc. You can’t believe he is the only one? The reason it is drawing so much attention is because he is a Dallas Cowboy. I do believe our players should carry themselves with a certain level of decorum, but I don’t think we should expect them to act like monks. There are always going to be people outraged about anything and we as fans just have to accept that.

by quincyyyyy on Jul 15, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you have your opinion quincy - and i respect that...

and i have mine…and as i said – i really dont care…

but its reasonable to ask the guy who is getting paid millions to play football and represent the dallas cowboys to stay away from the N-word, racial stereotyping, homophobic slurs if he chooses to act like a dummy in his spare time on youtube

its completely reasonable

by McLovin9 on Jul 15, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do agree that he shouldn't be using pejoratives in his videos

but this video uses none, and doesn’t warrant this sort of outrage.

by quincyyyyy on Jul 15, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I mean

look at Ron Artest’s twitter he says some crazy things on there and im not seeing news articles about it.

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Jul 15, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting point since in the article it references him helping out at Brandon Bass’s basketball camp. Just because you find it nonsense does not automatically mean it is. You are entitled to your opinion, but I found it funny and in my mind it is therefore perfectly worthy of being on YouTube. And as for him using his place on the Cowboys to get attention, that point is absolutely ridiculous. He did not advertise, give a shout out on ESPN, or anything else like that where he directly used the Cowboys or the sports media to get people to watch. In fact it is the opposite. All he did was post something he thought was funny on a PUBLIC website, and people following him because he is a celebrity made a big deal out of it. You say that you know about it despite not watching it, but that is because the media has made a big deal out of it, not because Tellus wants the attention that comes with the controversy.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jul 15, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think part of it is because it came out after his "rap song"

Rhyming “Romo” with “Homo”. Lyrical poetry.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 16, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn...

2 years in a row for Keith Davis. Why are these teams signing him so early then? I don’t get it. Wonder how much he made from the 2 signings without playing for those teams ever….

Anomoly............taking flight September 15th....

by goat3000 on Jul 15, 2009 3:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he signed a 2-year deal with Miami last year and i believe Raiders deal was 1 year

i cant see any details but i’m guessing that he didnt get much (if any) upfront signing bonus in either case…

by McLovin9 on Jul 15, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else find it funny

that Killa got cut and he was the one that was praising the Raiders when Ellis asked him about the situation there?

by WestTxHornFan on Jul 15, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Raise your hand..

.. if you had to look up ad hominem!

(mine is raised)

"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams

by Jim Vance on Jul 15, 2009 7:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not me

It’s a word that sounds like another word. Like “weight” and “wait”. Or “there” and “their”. Or “butt-head” and “Brandon Jacobs”.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 15, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait

that last one was a cinnamon, not a hominem. My bad.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 15, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's like

corn ;-)

A pessimist’s blood type is always b-negative

by CounterEMF on Jul 15, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Aaron...

Are you going to any games this year?

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jul 15, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking at the 49ers preseason game fosho...

and my family wants to come up for the Thanksgiving game. One of them is a Raider fan so it should be fun. We don’t have tickets yet, though.

You?

All eyes on Free.

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 15, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Washington

I’ll be there in November. BTW I’m starting to get things together on a draft time.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jul 15, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron, let me know if you definitely go to the Raiders game

I’ve already bought my tickets, maybe we can tailgate a little before the game.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 16, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which one is Terry??

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 16, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The pear-shaped one

right up front.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Jul 16, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RMAO!!

I read no newspaper but Ritchies, and in that chiefly the advertisements, For they contain the only truths to be relied upon in a newspaper. Thomas Jefferson.

by squidlo97 on Jul 16, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is America

you’ll need to be a lot more specific…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 16, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fan base

Even with their recent Superbowl win, the bandwagoners couldn’t take the Stealers over the top.

I feel so miserable without you, it’s almost like having you here.

by CounterEMF on Jul 15, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Austin will get it done this season (just a guesstimation)

He’s just going to be the #2 WR, so it’s not crazy to expect 35-50 catches and a ypc of 15 or better. That should be more than enough with 2 TE’s that could start for most teams, Crayton from the slot position, Roy good for 70-80 catches (he’s is more of the wildcard IMO) and the increased role of the RB’s.

I also think too much has been made of his injury trouble. All his career injuries occurred on ST, so scratch that risk because he won’t be doing that this year, and none have been serious (couple minor knee sprains if I remember correctly)

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on Jul 15, 2009 11:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I could see all that happening

After camp last year, Romo and Garrett were more than a little high on Austin and if not for the injuries, I think we would have seen what you are predicting.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 16, 2009 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was hoping to see some commentary I could agree with on here

The one article that actually has an impact on people’s lives was the one about Bradie James. I’m not hating on people talking football, I’m on three of these blogs just to get my daily fix of offseason news. But as a high school educator, it’s awesome to recognize people doing anything to help children at school. Hopefully these gifts can help these students enjoy their education a bit more and they can focus on their academics with some other concerns lessened a bit. It would be even better if he could get some of his more high profile (and richer) teammates to help. As for the Fan Post, yes Bill Belichick is scum, and Brady is a smug bastard, but I don’t think you take into account the residual hatred the Boys of the 90’s built up among decent folks. That kind of hatred sticks with you.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 16, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Irvin

could on his worst day compare to the record of self destruction left by Lawrence Taylor. I loved watching him play, but he was a train wreck that Parcells and the franchise let smolder on the tracks because he produced.

Reputation of teams aside, there were no saintly teams then or now.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 17, 2009 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That James article was great.

Imagine being a kid and getting a backpack full of school supplies from an NFL player. And then, he gives you autographed memorabilia.
A couple weeks ago, James helped replaced a mentally disabled man’s stolen Cowboys merchandise. I know these guys have PR people who are in contact with organizations to put them in position to help the community, but the fact that these guys agree to do it and actually show up in person is quite admirable.

All eyes on Free.

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 17, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what though...

Let’s say what it is.

If Dallas sucked and they were a bunch of lunatics, you wouldn’t remember at all.

The residual hatred is more because Dallas was good. The thug stuff just make it even worse because they were guys who could talk alot of smack and go out on the football field and back it up.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jul 17, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I don't think Taylor ever tried to kill someone in a barber's chair

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 17, 2009 6:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope but most likely he tried

by driving with a head full of blow.

I’m simply pointing out that although Dallas got huge press on some legal troubles, in reality most teams were struggling with similar behavior.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 17, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you read his book. He wouldnt remember.

Your looking for higher ground in a cesspool.

A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. Gen. George Patton

by squidlo97 on Jul 17, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you guys seen this video?

Seems like Romo REALLY takes all this fame seriously..haha. Go down to Sports Video of the Day. It’s pretty damn funny.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jul 17, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My browser refuses to scroll past the pic of Arianny …

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 17, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I never did find the Romo piece

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 17, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

It worked a LOT better without that pesky Arianny picture…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 17, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aaah ok

I guess I had never seen it, thanks dude.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jul 17, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mine got as far as Remy Smit

then stopped.

Must be why they call it FireFox.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Jul 17, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well played, sir

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 17, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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